Not very familiar with Brit Cruiser tanks....was wondering is the Comet A34 using a Cromwell Mk.IV chassis? And does anyone know where one can get ahold of a Comet turret in 1/48th scale? Or will I have to figure out a way to modify the Cromwell turret into a Comet turret?

Thanks for any help and/or suggestions.....

~Tha Zebster~

The comet had return rollers and the Cromwell did not. That alone would make a conversion project a daunting task. Existing tracks might not fit

I don't think that the return rollers would be all that hard...it's the turret mantlet mods and the gun that might be a real brain squeezer....guess I'll have to find some specs.....

No the Comet and the Cromwell are different beasties and have very little in common.



Bruce

Actually, according to the information that I have located...the Comet and the Centaur both started with a Cromwell chassis....according to those that Rate the Brit tanks...they say that the Comet was the best tank that the Brits made during WW2...used a 77mm tank gun....not the 17 pdr gun , which was in the Centaur.

The Comet and the Cromwell may have been based on the same design but the Comet was longer and wider and had a completely different engine which was also used in the Centurion. The Centaur did not have a 17 pdr, a Centaur is basicly a Cromwell wth a different engine.

Cromwell: Meteor engine
Centaur: Liberty engine


Bruce

Actually and I'm no expert in Brit tanks....but the I meant the Challenger and the Comet both had 17 pdr (77mm) tank guns, the Cromwell had a 75 mm gun....but I have some drawings here and I can go and get the over all dimensions.....Oh what tha Heck:

Comet Mk.1 dimensions: Length: 6.55 m | Width: 3.04 m | Height: 2.67 m
Weight: 33000 kg

Cromwell Mk IV.: Length: 6.35 m | Width: 2.89 m | Height: 2.49 m
Weight: 27941 kg

I would say that the differences is in armor thickness, not chassis lengths. Now lets see ifn I can get some artwork in here....

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Now if you take that Meter Bar under the Front/Rear views and compare looks like to me...the chassis is almost exactly the same...only real difference I see is that the crew compartment was moved forward about 5-6 inches to make room for the larger turret ring....but it doesn't look like they widened it much....and the weight only increased by 5,059 kg....most of that in the larger engine and larger turret...you think, extra return rollers and wider tracks? 'eh?

You must be seeing different pictures than I see.

Actually all of these drawings are done by the same artist...and they are done in the same scale...so that yall can make comparisons...you can even compare other Countries Armors to these....this artist uses a scale bar in his 3 View Drawings w/ color. He also has experimental armors included in this website....in aircrafts, guns, ships, individual weapons and vehicles under these 2 Headings: Axis - Germany, Italy, Japan and Others; Allies - USA, USSR, Great Britain, France and Others.

Here is the Main Page: http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/index.htm

and this artist has just opened up a new website on WW1:

http://ww1artwork.jexiste.fr/

I think his name is Jexiste, anyone know who this artist is? I think that this fellow is a Frenchman. Have fun yall......

BTW he has drawings of the A7V and 2 experimental tanks...the A7V/U-1 and the K-Wagen ....huge monster tanks. Even has experimental British tank design...such as the Flying Elephant Design A and Design B....never actually built though.

Hi All

Hope I can put this to bed. The Comet and Cromwell LOOK similar but they are VERY DIFFERENT. Its like saying a Boeing 737 and Airbus A320 look similar or an apple and orange are similar because they are both round.

Just because a Comet is 6" wider is not the issue. Its were the 6" go.

Just looking at the suspension in plans and photos. The wheels are different, The Wheel spacing is different.The idler is different.The track is different (wider).

The intention was to make the Comet an improved Cromwell but in the end over 60% of the components were new.

If it were easy to do the conversion, the 1/35 boys would have had 1/35 Comet conversion for the Tamiya Cromwell. But they had to wait for Bronco to do it.

Hope this helps.
Andrew

I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard for you to use the Cromwell parts to make up a chassis for the Comet

You can add it to the list everyone else wants you to do like the Churchill, Mk IV Tank, Matilda.... hehe

P.

Now that's the info I was looking for.....now where did I put that Aurora Centurion I built back in the 70s........

Zeb; While the Cromwell and Comet are distinctly different; there are plenty of similarites between the two that would warrant the use of a Cromwell for parts, etc, should you decide to convert it to a Comet. I have had similar thoughts but being lazy; I may just try to get my hands on a Corgi Comet (1/50th I believe) and see what could be done to cross-kit it with a Tamiya Cromwell and use the Sherman Firefly gun, etc; as I have several of these lying around. Just a thought, but I'm not dismissing it and certainly not waiting for anyone to come out with this anytime soon! Chris Schwach

Zeb;

These drawings have been around for ages, but it appears that Vince has decided to upgrade his web site a bit of late.

The artist is Vince Bourguignon of Belgium, and to think that anything off the web can be downloaded to your printer and still hold its proper scale is wistful thinking.
Here is the artists home web site... that leads to the WW2 pics...

http://www.arttech-vb.net/

I'm not certain that ALL the drawings are his own work, but certainly MOST of it is, and for anyone simply wanting fairly decent drawings of tanks, aircraft, guns, etc of WW2, his work is quite extensive.

George Bradford

Zeb, George is not telling everything he might, but then he is a gentleman of the old school!! He has himself an extensive range of scale drawings covering all of the vehicles here discussed, and loads more besides! He sells them individually, and they have been published in several collections as books, and I would suggest you do a search on Amazon, or visit his web site, for more details!

Tim

www.fighting48th.com

PS the 17pr in the A30, Firefly and 17pr Anti Tank gun were different to the Vickers designed gun used in the Comet; they even had different ammunition. Indeed, the various versions of the original 17pr had major differences between them, if you know where to look!