Alright guys, found a 59 lincoln in the junkyard..
It is missing as follows.
Taillights and taillight Panel
The two spears on the right and left side
interior is shot, seats are there dash is there but rough.
all the power window motors are there, but the door glass is gone.
Rear window has a crack in it, but the car is not a breezeway, I would imagine this glass is really hard to find..
also missing the hood ornament.
The good is, the car is non rusty, drivetrain is intact (unknown Y block) paint is even in good shape, and the car looks evil enough to kill my unborn children with that nose.
Considering getting it if I can get the yard owner to get rid of it, he doesn't like selling cars he would rather send it to the scrapper then let me buy cars from him.
My plans was to get interior back together see if it runs, mechanically go through it and just drive it, its got yellow paint and a white top both in awesome shape for their age.
How hard is it to find the parts I am missing, how much do they run?
Anything else I should know about this sweet ass car I found?
The unknown Y-block is a 430" MEL of the Mercury Edsel Lincoln family. 383/410/430. It's a bit of an oddball. The only Ford it ever came in was 59/60 Thunderbird. There was also a truck version.
Transmission is a big case Borg Warner. Parts shouldn't be a problem but you won't find them at Walmart.
These Lincolns won't bring half of what a 59 Cadillac will bring but they cost about the same to restore. Trim parts are where you find them. Good luck with that. They're out there but most know what they have.
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I thought the mel engines were the 430 462, it doesnt look like them the intake is hollow underneath thats why I thought it was a Y block but you know better then I do.
Anyways like I said its only missing a few things on the outside and the interior is gone seats are there complete but missing door panels I suspect they would cost alot.
If the '59's engine is the same, the 462 was in my brother's '62 Lincoln as well. All I remember about the engine was that the top end was weak and didn't always get the oil it needed causing a permanent valve tap. The tranny was also weak and failed twice in the four years of ownership.
The '62 weighed almost 5000 pounds with it's unibody construction, real wood and leather interior as well as all the big castings for the power accessories on the engine. I suspect it was more than the drivetrain could take.
You got that right! I bought a real nice 62 Galaxie 500 that had 430 of some sort and a Muncie 4 speed in it. It had a rumpity cam, headers, big carb. Sounded like it could eat any Chevy alive. But it was total slug!
I see vast sums of money to make that even a nice daily driver. That being said, this is a hobby. If it tickles your fancy and you have the means, go for it. If you care about what you may get back out of it later, pass on by. Love for a particular car is a very subjective and personal thing.
That's a helluva nice body! It'll cost some buck to do a resto but if you can find a rusty hulk parts car with all the trim for cheap you'd be in good shape.
I'm not too familiar with 59 Lincoln, but I guess that's a Premiere rather than a Continental?
No idea, how to tell didnt know the premire was a model just thought it was like Broham or Cartier or whatever, anyways yeah all cars out here are rust free this ones got a little bit more then my usual car but yeah its clean aint it, as far as putting it together, wish I could just get someone to pay me to restore it or at least fix it up real good, god that would be the life.
It would definitely be something not seen often. If you do go with it....you at least seem to have a decent starting point. Still, all the details and unique parts to get so that the car retains it's particular appeal......$$$$$
It is growing on me (like a weird toxic fungus) every time I look at the pictures a bit more.
It's not bad, but there are some drawbacks. If you restore cars for customers all week you sure don't want to do your own evenings and weekends. I would love to buy that 59 Meteor Wagon that I put up on the "Uh-oh" post but I know damn well that I don't have the time or space to do it. The shop is full to the door and beyond with customer cars so I am deprived of the joy of fixing that old wagon up for myself. There's good, there's bad, but I just can't see myself doing anything else....
I'm with Greg on this. I saw those pix and thought dang, she's rust free and straight. How'd that happen? The interior is pretty much a loss with the plastic cracked and all faded, rotted stuff. The floor looks amazingly solid.
If it's anything like the '62 we had, all the power stuff and vacuum driven accessories would drive me nuts. I had the '62 appart too many times cleaning contacts and trying to keep stuff working. It seems like it was in a hot, dry climate a lot, so maybe it is better.
is all electric, as far what I want to do with it.
I do like the car, but due to many more projects I dont think I can get this one.
But if like I said do what greg does, that would be awesome, unfortunately my skills are not quite there yet for a ride like this, I am going to semi restore the 68 galaxie vert I got, keep track of my hours and money spent on it, see what I can get for it and then sell it and go from there I guess, tried other things I just like cars too damn much but don't particularly want to work on newer cars.
In 1971 I was 21 years old. I bought a 51 Ford Coupe that needed some help. I fixed it up and played with it, then sold it for a profit. Bought another old car, repeat process.....again and again and again. I didn't make a LOT of money on any given car, but I learned how to deal and the basics of restoration.
In 1984 I was 34 years old. I had built my hobby shop and took a shot at restoring a 1951 Ford Convertible to AACA National standards. It scored at Hershey. A couple years later I followed up with a 1954 Buick Skylark. It scored at Hershey.
In 1988 I felt I had developed my skills and had acquired enough business knowledge to give the resto game a shot. Over 20 years later I have no regrets. I did it my way!
Do what you're doing. Build your skills. Build your knowledge base. Learn good basic business skills. I worked in several small businesses over the years. Some of those years were in management. I learned how to run a business by learning how NOT to run a business by watching other's mistakes.
That car is CLEAN. Though they're notorious for floorboard rot. I say snatch it up.
Should be a 430 MEL, and the same basic engine was used through early 68. In 66 it was enlarged to a 462 and the bellhousing pattern changed so a C6 could bolt to it.
If I got it I'd do an old school rod look. Satin black, pinstripes, the works. The missing trims and such may be a bear to find. The 58 - 60 never were my thing, I've always prefered the slab side 61 - 69.
The 430 was no slouch either, There was one in a T-Bird that made the Nascar circuit back then, and there were lots of go fast parts for the MEL at one time.
This message has been edited by JeremyLawson on Dec 10, 2008 2:42 AM
decided not to get it, we have 10 cars at the house right now amazingly 4 of them run but 9 are still projects and need various amounts of work, Im gonna focus on getting the 68 galaxie on the road seeing how cheap I can do it all for(not cheap quality but doing my own interior rather then buying a new set of seats and learning bodywork *cringe) and other stuff and get rid of that thing and then maybe start on a 72 ranchero for my dad as he sold it when i was like 5 to help support the family and such plus 72 ranchero would be easy to do.