I have a problem with the local track. I have tried unsuccessfully to have them do away with wet t-shirt contests for two years. There's one guy making all the decisions & he is the word of God. I stayed away from racing for several years due to this ethical problem, I just do not see what the two have in common. Here's the deal. I'm thinking about running test & tune in the Mustang to tune it & to teach Lorrie to bracket race, then racing at a different track (there's 3 withing 2 hours) when I want to compete. The bracket guys I know here have told me I'm more than welcome there with no wet T contests until midnight. Are my morals so askew as to be wrong? I just don't think kids & out of control women should mix

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Deep down, I think I know the correct answer to your query. But, for the life of me, I cannot will myself to condemn a wet t-shirt contest...it goes against my very core. Sorry.

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You just wouldn't make it if you lived around the equator. LOL!

Really, it's no big deal.

If you lived among the arabs who cover every inch of their womed except for the eyes... You'd get excited if you saw an exposed ankle.

If you lived HERE, where we think of the human body as something to be ashamed of, you might get excited (or repulsed) at the sight of partial nudity.

If you lived in the tropical heat of the equator where people wear minimal or no clothes, total nudity wouldn't get your attention any more than the fly buzzing around your head.

It's all psychological. No big.

If they want to do it.... Live and let live. If you don't want to participate, you don't have to. No harm, no foul. Nobody is getting hurt... just having fun. Nobody is going to tell YOU how to live, are they?

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I do not condone this form of entertainment at the track, however while I understand your morals...and with great respect to Lorrie...I should be so fortunate as to witness this unruly act of indecency. Shame!!



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I too would be fortunate indeed, for I have NEVER paid witness to this wonderful Solstice event of the wetting of the T-shirts, but if the wife were to accompany me I would deign to go, and wish it not upon my fellow man...

Hmmmmmm......at the tracks around here we just race. The racers get miffed if there are any "side show" delays. So they don't have any.

This is a trick question, right?

Actually, I have to agree with you regarding the purpose of a wet T contest as part of the racing activities....it has none. The last wet T contest I was witness to was many years ago at a strip club/bar. Lots of beer, sweat and mostly homely well endowed women. It made sense then, but my standards were lower.

Doesn't the track have any other way to entertain the crowd? You know....like ...racing?

They always make excuses, track clean up (which never happened at the grudge races when someone actually tech's the cars), no one wanting to race... I'm taking a lot of flak over this dilemma. The grudge race czar & I are probably gonna duke it out if he gets in my face about it again. What I can't understand is they let the bracket guys run their program, but the heads up guys are at the mercy of one kids idea of entertainment. This all started several years ago & I went where my business was appreciated & it looks as if I'll be doing it again. I'm by no means a prude, you guys know me to be as close to a sailor as possible without the funny white sailor suit. I just don't see the connection, also it's against the law but I won't go that far.

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why is it against the law? The booooobies or the water or the booze or just the combo of them all???

They have a permit to sell beer & beer only. For that type of entertainment to go on at a facility in Tulsa county you need a special permit for beer & entertainment & I know for a fact they do not.

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That was the law in Clermont County at the time when I was at a bar and of Hamilton County where they had a law against mixing the two.

hahahah, just like the Okies Beer here, Party there... Beer AND party waaaay over There

Okies... What's better is completely nude is 3.2 beer only. Topless only you can get hard liquor. Both require a special permit. When I was in Wichita you had to go to a seperate bar for a drink & then go back to see the girls

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It's still that way in some of Wichita's finer establishments Rick.
Maybe I should go out on a fact finding mission to verify the current conditions!!

You might need to. You never know when I'll come up I-35 & I would hate to not know the laws

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Sounds like he's trying to appeal to the adolescent crowd while skirting the law in doing so. I'd make an "anonymous" complaint to the local constabulary as a concerned parent....

A lot of very interesting replies to your question, some funny, some serious. I decieded to do a little experiment. I went upstairs, got completely naked, except fo my COOKS GARAGE tee shirt and jumped in the shower and turned on the water.



I then stood in front of the bathroom mirror and looked at myself.



Nope, didnt do anything for me, but then its hard to improve on perfection.



So I dripped my way downstairs and asked my wife "does this do anything for you"?

She said yup, it makes her want to make a doctors appointment for me to find out exactly what the heck is wrong with me.



Based on that, I really dont have an answer for you either way.



By the way, from the title of the post, I thought this was going to be about

pole dancing at the drag strip, and this image of Cook , and you and Bill....

never mind, it gives me the heebee geebees

Chuckie, go get a mop and clean up...sheeesh

I'm with Greg. I go to the track to race or watch racing. There are enough delays as it is. Aside from being immoral the "You can look but you cannot touch or cannot touch without paying" girlie shows never really appealed to me anyway.

We don't do anything like that - running at a family owned track has that advantage, if the family isn't a bunch of drunk circle trackers. I say go and do the instruction as required, then kindly take your business elsewhere. You can always leave when the contests start.

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I have a little different take.

I have a two-part answer.

1 - Wet T-shirts shouldnt stop the racing, no matter what

However

2 - If it gets a few more people in to pay admission and keeps tracks open, let them have a blast

I just dont see why it would have to be involved at all with the cars, have it out of the way and let the event run.


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