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Who makes Aluminum Flywheels?

May 12 2009 at 2:08 PM
  (Login koolminx)

I need one made for my falcon. I called Rob in Idaho but their clutches are way small and would end up costing me more than a reasonable amount, and he said there's likely someone else out there that might make an easier time of it.

Anyone ehere make stuff out of aluminum happy.gif? Or know somebody that can copy my iron one and make me an aluminum copy?


    
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Re: Who makes Aluminum Flywheels?

May 12 2009, 2:40 PM 

Aluminum flywheels really need a steel face. I think if you put one on the little Falcon 6 you'll regret it

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Re: Who makes Aluminum Flywheels?

May 12 2009, 3:15 PM 

I know they need a steel friction surface... I NEED to get my instant rotational speed back, this flywheel I put in raped about 40% of my idle to 5,000 rpm speed, where before I could hit red-line in 1/2 to 3/4 of a second, after the 3.03 tranny swap and this ginormous flywheel now it takes nearly one and a half seconds to get there....

The engine used to frickin' ZING on demand, even while in gear! But, with this flywheel robbing all my bottom end I got nothing.

That's why I want a billet aluminum flywheel, to give me back my bottom end.

It makes sense don't it?

 
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dougc
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Re: Who makes Aluminum Flywheels?

May 12 2009, 3:39 PM 

Yea, but when you see what they cost, you're not gonna buy it anyway....happy.gifhappy.gif

Try McLeod, I'm sure they have what you're looking for.

 
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You may get what you ask for

May 12 2009, 4:42 PM 

But not what you want. An aluminum flywheel would be more for winging the motor on the line for a hard leave in a big HP car and letting said big power car buzz up between shifts - they don't need or want a lot of inertia input. Your bitty 6 most likely does need and want that inertia energy.

Heres a list at Summit:http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=400414+309354+115&autoview=sku

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Re: You may get what you ask for

May 12 2009, 6:40 PM 

Mcleod don't have it. They only make SB and BB stuff for ford's noting 6 cyl.

I want my damn ZING back. that extra 12 lbs took about 15 HP out of my motor at idle. I want it back...

Shouldn't cost more than $300 bucks to copy a big fat old iron one with aluminum I'd think, but if it's once again going to cost the same to make a damn flywheel as it is to chrome a damn bumper, then I gotta do what I gotta do... Simple as that.

If I cannot get a flywheel, I'll just buy another 2.02 tranny with clutch and go back to the original 7" clutch and non synchro tranny to get my ZAP back into my Falcon....

I could be rolling in 1st OR 2nd gear and stomp it and get a good chirping squeal out of the other combo, but this 3.03 don't let me squeak the tires except when I dump the clutch with 300+ rpm's on it... Same gear ratios in each tranny...

Anyhow, I'll check summitt now...

 
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Re: You may get what you ask for

May 12 2009, 6:42 PM 

Hay's and summitt don't got schart... sad.gif

That's why I need to know who makes them forspecial happy.gif It's not that they are difficult to copy... I just don't have a CNC or lathe or any billet aluminum over 3" cubed...

 
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Re: You may get what you ask for

May 13 2009, 12:11 PM 

$6-700 bucks from Ram Clutches also...

I'm just stumped as to why every damn piece of my friggin' car has to be $500+.... Just blows my mind that nobody can make anything for less that $500 bucks now day's, can't even chrome a bumper less than $560 bucks...

Who'd a thunk that a moredoor would be such a cash pot... happy.gif

Back to the tiny falcon tranny I guess... I can buy 5 or 10 of them for the price of one friggin flywheel, so if I break one it's no big deal....

 
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Rick
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Re: You may get what you ask for

May 13 2009, 12:21 PM 

Man, go have a cold iced tea & chill. Aluminum flywheels are for race engines & the last time I looked the small sixes were not being raced. I don't know what the measurements of the little six's wheel are but if you could find one with the same ring gear then you could adapt one by re-drilling the attachment holes. I wouldn't do it though.

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Re: You may get what you ask for

May 13 2009, 12:44 PM 

You want some cheese with that whine? LOL!!

Fresh outta sympathy fer ya pal...

 
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Re: You may get what you ask for

May 13 2009, 1:21 PM 

Hahahaha, I don't need to chill nor do I need sympathy. I'm just finding out now that the reason I never did any custom work is because it's gaddamn expensive!

The REASON I want an aluminum flywheel is that the original one weighs nearly nothing, but the upgrade to the T-5 weighs nearly twice as much!

That is why I want an aluminum one.. If I can get a lighter flywheel (I.E. Aluminum) it won't seem like I'm trying to smuggle Mexican's over the border in my trunk every time I leave a light...

And the prices once again make me pause, and think that I am not charging my customer nearly enough... happy.gif

 
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Re: You may get what you ask for

May 13 2009, 2:54 PM 

Gary, you're going through the same angst I did with my '60 Falcon when I found that a NOS trunk handle with emblem was $250-$300. That's why someone repops it now for $200. That was in 2000 so by now everything for an old Falcon will cost $500-$600 a piece!

As far as the aluminum flywheel, without the torque, a lighter flywheel would be a bitch to drive everyday in that Falcon. Trying to make that boat anchor of an engine do cartwheels is probably not a worthy task. Drop some cubes in it.

 
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Re: You may get what you ask for

May 13 2009, 3:20 PM 

I understand the prices now... Unwillingly I do anyway...

But, My ORIGINAL flywheel is 1/2 the weight of my current one. I drove it just FINE before I upgraded to this 3.03 67 Mustang tranny and flywheel and clutch, so I gotta get me a lighter flywheel to make some of the difference up.

So going aluminum will only be giving me back what I originally had free spinning wise.

Does that make any sense?

 
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Mark Plemons
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Re: You may get what you ask for

May 13 2009, 8:00 PM 

What? You mean they arent giving away custom cnc machined flywheels for free?

Are you on crack?


 
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Re: You may get what you ask for

May 13 2009, 8:19 PM 

Flywheel prices online are in the $400 dollar range... I'd have thought that SOMEONE has a program for the 200 inline flywheel out there somewhere...

I don't want free, I just want to pay LESS than or equal to everyone else in the known universe...

 
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Re: Who makes Aluminum Flywheels?

May 13 2009, 9:22 PM 

Way back in the day folks would lighten the heavy old original flywheels. I'm sure a competent machine shop could do it for a reasonable price.

 
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Re: Who makes Aluminum Flywheels?

May 14 2009, 3:10 AM 

Greg, I'm sure that this is the way to go. I'll make some calls... I'll definitely let you all know.


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Mark Plemons
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Re: Who makes Aluminum Flywheels?

May 14 2009, 3:24 AM 

Screw it, if you're that hard headed,cross drill the piss out of it and chamfer the holes like a brake rotor.


 
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Re: Who makes Aluminum Flywheels?

May 14 2009, 3:34 AM 

Mark. you're saying to drill the berjeezus out of the flywheel to lighten it???

You know it's nearly twice as large as the replacement one?

 
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Mark Plemons
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Re: Who makes Aluminum Flywheels?

May 14 2009, 4:25 AM 

It's not any more stupid than trying to get "zing" out of that boat anchor in the first place.


 
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Zing

May 14 2009, 9:55 AM 

Call 'em out. Just put a Top Shot on it and call it good.

1967 Falcon 4 door 351C-4V
1970 Mustang 351C-2V
http://raceabilene.com/kelly/hotrod
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Zing out a 200

May 14 2009, 11:07 AM 

If you want more "zing" out of 200 motor, why not spend your money on some hot rod parts from a place like Cliffords?

http://www.cliffordperformance.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CP&Category_Code=F200

You can also check out swap meets, ebay, etc for same parts for less money. I mean you can buy headers, a better intake manifold, a performance camshaft (or all of the above) to add some "zing" to your "sick cylinder" motor.


 
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Re: Zing out a 200

May 14 2009, 2:20 PM 

I have ZING damnit! I just don't have the ZING I used to have. I'm going to try to get this flywheel lightened, and if that comes to no avail, I'll spend the 7 or 8 hundred bucks and have one made.

The silly thing stock is only 120 HP and when I'm done it will have at the very least 200, which is like what you guy's get out of 3 cylinders in your big Vee-Ates Only I'm doing it my my own tooling in a genuinely old school fashion and not going to use an aftermarket head or go to Clifford for my power...

I think I can do it without them, I can even do it without the aluminum flywheel, but that's an advantage I would like to have...

I'm going to have the fastest Naturally Aspirated 61 Falcon moredoor Log Head 200 CI motor in the entire world! (eventually) happy.gif happy.gif

Thanks for all the suggestions. (even the bad ones)

 
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Re: Zing out a 200

May 14 2009, 3:14 PM 

"I'm going to have the fastest Naturally Aspirated 61 Falcon moredoor Log Head 200 CI motor in the entire world! (eventually)"

Way to set your sights high, Gary....


 
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Re: Zing out a 200

May 14 2009, 4:23 PM 

Hahahahaah... I gotta have SOME goal in life, my wife forced me to, and this is it... happy.gif

 
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Mark Plemons
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Re: Zing out a 200

May 14 2009, 5:16 PM 

That's like saying "Someday I'm going to have the world's best case of the crabs!"


 
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Mark
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Re: Zing out a 200

May 14 2009, 5:23 PM 

Just make sure when cross drilling to keep holes on an equallized bolt pattern. Otherwise you may end up with a balance issue. Should be short work of it at the local machine shop... I could suggest someone, but that might be crossing the line. You know you'll need Chuck's permission before you can do this modification. Just shoot him an emaail, and ask nicely!! happy.gif

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Re: Zing out a 200

May 14 2009, 6:55 PM 

Our Garage Chuck or another Chuck?

 
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