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Franken Car 55

August 13 2011 at 7:00 PM

Gary  (Login koolminx)

 
Well guy's, I didn't do any of the stitching, looks like Something Marty Feldman and Gene Wilder would have cobbled together with an arc welder and parts off a Yugo... (Abbey-Normal anyone) happy.gif

Here is Frankencar coming out of her lair.

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Here's Pop's holding up the building while I do all the work happy.gif He's been doing this since 1960...

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Here is where the good Dr. and Igor got busy with their Heimler Nuclear Arc Reactor...

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UGH....

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Now that all the hard parts have been done, I simply gotta blast the crap out of it, grind for weeks, then make everything pretty... Simple! I can't wait to get started!

Going Black and White inside and out.

 
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dougc
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Re: Franken Car 55

August 13 2011, 7:05 PM 

Looked at a black and white one locally yesterday. They're really nice cars when done correctly. If they're cobbled, they end up looking cheap, imho.

Good luck on the build. Looks like you're gonna need it.happy.gif

 
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Chuck
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Re: Franken Car 55

August 13 2011, 7:21 PM 

You know what you need buddy? A magic trailer happy.gif
Should be a neat car when completed

 
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Greg
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Garage-Owner

Re: Franken Car 55

August 13 2011, 9:47 PM 

Hopefully they didn't warp it too much with all that welding...

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"Here's Pop's holding up the building while I do all the work. He's been doing this since 1960..."

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So your dad has been holding up buildings while you do all the work since 1960???

Damn! Maybe he should have tried holding up banks!

And just how old were you in 1960 that you could do all the work while he held up the building???



 
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Gary
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Re: Franken Car 55

August 13 2011, 10:10 PM 

You smarmy old cockroach!~ LOL u know what I meant.


    
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Gary
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Re: Franken Car 55

August 22 2011, 11:46 PM 

Well I just go the word from Bev the owners wife that she needs me to have is completed in about 2 months...

After much quarter panel weld grinding I found that BOTH Quarters over the wheel wells are sticking out about 1.25" farther than the gaddamm quarters are where the door jamb is! It's effing HORRIBLE! This guy lap welded another Vick Rear half over his cutting torch hack job... I am likely going to heat and stretch and shrink this damn car for a month just so I don't have to use 2 gallons of bondo on each friggin quarter to get the damnable things flat... And do it all as good as possible for as cheap as possible as fast as possible.... :roll eyes:


I think I'm going to have to fake this one to some extent or other, and pray it don't come back and nip me in the bud after the gentleman passes... They want the body to stay on the frame, yet take every precaution to make it look good while doing it faster than the Mighty Magic Trailer can push them out...

EEEEEK!

happy.gif I LOVE a Challenge! happy.gif

 
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Greg
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Garage-Owner

Re: Franken Car 55

August 23 2011, 3:15 AM 

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Gary
(Login koolminx) Re: Franken Car 55 August 22 2011, 11:46 PM


"Well I just got the word from Bev the owners wife that she needs me to have it completed in about 2 months..."

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If you haven't already it looks like you're about to lose control of the project. As I understand it someone brings you cobbled up POS and you're supposed to do the miracle and fix it. Okay, so far so good. But then they say they HAVE to have it in two months? That may be enough time for you to get it done but it is your place to say when it MIGHT be done. "Target Date" but nothing firm.

What happens if it's NOT done in two months?

I sure hope you didn't even quote a "ball park" figure on this one.


 
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Gary
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Re: Franken Car 55

August 23 2011, 11:16 AM 

Yes Greg, I remembered to tell her that it's purely a MIGHT situation, and this morning I am taking the tailer back out to her place to pick up a 55 Customline to thieve parts off of. Mostly just front brake items, and misc engine compartment stuff they lost over the last 10 years, as I found last night that the front drums are completely empty, and I have no boxes of spare parts for the car...

I also told her that this car is strictly a hourly job until finished, nothing less, hourly plus materials. I empathize with her need for the shortest timeline possible, and told her I would do my best but wouldn't do a Maco or Earl Scheibe job on it.

 
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Phatfalcon
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Re: Franken Car 55

August 23 2011, 11:51 AM 

This sounds........NOT GOOD! As I understand it you are working to beat the old man's impending death, right? The car is challenge enough, but Old Man Time ain't on your side.

 
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dougc
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Re: Franken Car 55

August 23 2011, 4:05 PM 

Gary, do a Granada conversion on the brakes. Parts will run about $350-400. The owners will thank you first time they drive it..er..stop it.

 
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Gary
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Re: Franken Car 55

August 23 2011, 5:47 PM 

The front end is brand new but the guts of the drums are missing. But wait! There's good news!

It's not Cancer, it's a Palsy like Lou Gehrig like degenerative disease that causes massive loss without warning of different muscle groups sometimes one and sometime more than one at a time. The Heart is one of those, and the poor fellow nearly choked to death 2 day's ago when simply sitting there watching TV. Not eating. So Bev and I decided to put the Frame off on hold until next week after their next appointment with the men in white coats and simply keep at correcting what's there for now.

On the lighter side if life we have the Left rear quarter panel only 1/4" shorter than the right rear. Yaaay!

Lastly, how damn hard can it be to remove a single nut compression style steering wheel? I mean the nut is off, I've heated the shaft and wheel center until the rubber started melting on the outside edges WITH my wheel puller on and torqued down fairly tight with my butterfly air wrench along with hitting the damn thing with a BFH on the tool to no damn avail but nearly mushrooming the end of the shaft.

I've never come across a more stubborn steering wheel. I even left my remover tool on tight as hell all night with liquid wrench drenching the entire thing...

I think it's 1/2" impact time! After all I DO have this nice 55 Custimline for parts if I farkle it up I reckon.

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Tim Rumley
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Re: Franken Car 55

August 23 2011, 6:35 PM 

I've been reading along on this this - it makes a good story. BUT, I just keep thinking how this situation screams for your customer to buy a clean driver and get maximum enjoyment out of it while he can. People do what they feel, not what makes sense. I don't begrudge you a living though, Gary. Maybe you should buy a running, driving car, mark it up 20% and tell her it hers that you restored.

Best of everything to you and to them.

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dougc
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Re: Franken Car 55

August 23 2011, 8:48 PM 

Well this one's pretty easy. Tim's on the right track. Just follow the simple steps below:

1. Push the pos onto a rack

2. Raise the lift.

3. Drive a restored (preferable) or a restorable car underneath.

4. Use the car on the lift for any parts that may be needed.

Yer diggin' yerself a hole that you'll never get out of and nobody'll be happy with in that car. Those hole's are ordinarily called "graves".

Lotsaluck.

 
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Gary
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Re: Franken Car 55

August 23 2011, 11:19 PM 

Oh I understand guy's. If there were a Vicky Glass Top within 1,000 miles in Black an White and Complete for under $10K I'd get it for them!

They're trying to sell their 1930 Model A touring car for $13K, but it's been on the market a long time and nobody is biting. It's in decent condition and is a driver.

This Vic will be a driver also if I can ever find all the parts and compress a years work into about 45 day's....

The Auto shift rod is supposed to be two parts I believe, but this one is welded... So the Searching begins at the column and the clock is ticking. (too bad the one in the dash don't tick...) happy.gifhappy.gif

 
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Travis
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Re: Franken Car 55

August 24 2011, 4:35 AM 

I think they got it backwards, you sure you were not to fix the customline and use the other for the parts car? Do yourself a favor and don't compromise your work quality...........later down the road like it or not someone is going to associate your name with the project and probably not in a good way. Does not matter if they did all the hacking and wacking you will get blamed for it not being perfect in the end. Just my 2 cents.

 
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Greg
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Garage-Owner

Re: Franken Car 55

August 24 2011, 7:49 AM 

I do believe you are delusional. Let's do some simple math. You say 45 days (NO WAY IN HELL THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, BUT JUST FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE WE'LL CONTINUE. Okay, 45 days times 8 hours per day is 360 hours (again NO way!) Let's use a low labor rate of 50 per hour. That's $18,000.00. And you haven't bought the first part or any materials. Yeah, I know, you can get a screamin' deal on all the chrome, upholstery, glass, mechanicals, etc.........or just put on used junk.

Just go buy a decent 55/56 Victoria for $18,000.00 or less, cut the top off this Crown Vic Glasstop and install to on a good driver car. You can do it in a week and be WAY ahead. Simple job with good results. If you're careful you won't even have to paint it.

I'm tellin' you right now for everybody's sake PULL THE PLUG!

This is no bull shit, I mean it! NOBODY (can I make these letters bigger?) will be happy with this one. NOBODY!

I'm assuming you have a good glass insert for the roof?


 
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Phatfalcon
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Re: Franken Car 55

August 24 2011, 11:45 AM 

I was going to suggest hooking a chain to the drivers side rear quarter and to your truck and taking off at 35mph, but Greg's got a point, Gary. It's obvious you have no fear and the skills to pull it off. I've seen way more radical stuff done on this forum (although over a much longer timeframe). You should be able to find a real nice driver for $18k and pull it off.

 
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Tim Rumley
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Re: Franken Car 55

August 24 2011, 11:58 AM 


 
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Gary
(Login koolminx)

Re: Franken Car 55

August 24 2011, 2:06 PM 

I meant 60 day's, but still... I know it's near impossible to do within that time frame and I've tried telling them that.

I have my pop's willing to help so that's another 5 hours per day I can give it.

But I think I might have to tell them that this job is pretty much an impossible one for a restoration.

I can fix it up with excellent paint, inside and out, but the cobbled together mess of floors is going to take me a week to make look nice inside and another week on the underside alone, provided I can make a rotisserie strong enough to hold this car....

I think I simply must tell the lady to hope for the best, because in the beginning (I had no customers when this started and have damn few now) I told her that I would do it for X amount of dollars per week (not to exceed 35 hours per week in actual labor to keep the cap in place) To keep it within her budget, and she agreed. It was an amount that would keep me afloat. I was thinking I could do this car in 4 to 6 months and make it ZINGGG with niceness. Now after getting inside and under and on top of, and taking measurements I'm going to tell the lady that she's getting 35 hours per week as agreed for the amount per hour agreed upon, until the job is finished, or until the good Lord pulls the plug and she reclaims the car.

Like Travis said, I do NOT want this job biting me in the ass because I left his cobbled up crap visible to the world to save time....


Thanks for all your thoughts guys!

 
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Bill
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Re: Franken Car 55

August 24 2011, 6:52 PM 

I hope you pointed out all that crap work to her that's going to take a ton of time to fix right before you left!

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