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A little ID help please

October 14 2009 at 3:31 PM
  (Login Stevenindy)
Hummingbird lover 2007

I just cant recall the name of either of these plants. The first one I didnt plant this year but reseeded late . I have at least two of these long stems that is now budding like crazy. I wouldnt mind trying starts from this or seeds. The second one is one I wont have in my garden next year it only attracts bees. The second one was supposed to be agas. heather queen.

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the second one I was expecting to look similar to my agastache cana, thinking it a cultivar of this plant
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but instead , it was this plant I dont know the name of
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Steve
Martinsville, In
Heat zone 6
Sunset zone 35

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(Login Rowdy13)
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Re: A little ID help please

October 14 2009, 3:53 PM 

The first one looks like Standing Cypress. I don't know the second.

Steve

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(Login Pennytoo)
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Re: A little ID help please

October 14 2009, 4:56 PM 

Steve,
The first one is Standing cypress. It isn't too likely that your flowers will get pollinated this late in the season but you never know.

The second plant looks like Agastache neomexicana which does attract bees and butterflies.

Penny
Niagara Falls, NY
USDA zone 6a/6b
Heat zone 4
Sunset zone 39
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(Login russlouky)
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Re: A little ID help please

October 14 2009, 6:46 PM 

Steve - another name for the first one is Ipomopsis - there is also a yellow one. I had both this summer but they didn't do much for me. If I can get some seed I plan to plant them again next summer because hummers do like them.

Russ Thompson
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Louisville, Kentucky

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Lisa
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Re: A little ID help please

October 14 2009, 7:24 PM 

Second looks like Agastache rugosa, korean mint. Or A. foeniculum, anise hyssop.

Lisa
Central NJ/ z6b
Heat zone 5/6

 
 
Indy Steve
(Login Stevenindy)
Hummingbird lover 2007

Re: A little ID help please

October 14 2009, 8:03 PM 

Thanks Russ

You came up with the name I recognized. Im sure all names are correct, but there is also an additional name that goes with Ipomopsis.

Update: Ok Russ found the info, It appears I just know it by its scientific name of Ipomopsis Aggregata. I suppose standing cypress being one of its common names along with, scarlet gilia, scarlet trumpet, and skyrocket. It appears it is a late blooming and short flowering plant that will die soon after the flowering is over. Doesnt seem worthwhile as a hummer plant but it does have pretty flowers, just too maybe for my area.

Penny-- The plant has been going for awhile and may have already been polinated. Sure didnt know this rascal spread seed like that, nor was I expecting it. It was in an area I dont check that often.

Steve
Martinsville, In
Heat zone 6
Sunset zone 35

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(Login Naturelover68)
Hummingbird lover 2009

Re: A little ID help please

October 14 2009, 8:46 PM 

I have been growing Ipomopsis rubra for several years and I have plants blooming from late June until frost. The first year I had them, I started them in the house in March. Since then they have been reseeding themselves and some even survive the winter. I believe that that earliest blooming plants set seed which germinates immediataly and those plants bloom later in the summer which gives me such a long bloom season. The huumingbirds do really like them.

Gary
Napoleon, OH
USDA Zone 5b

 
 


(Login Pennytoo)
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Ipomopsis rubra or Ipomopsis aggregata?

October 14 2009, 9:53 PM 

I. rubra blooms earlier than I. Aggregata. I. rubra I believe is the one that can throw red, yellow or peach colored flowers and I. Aggregata flowers are red. Both go by the common name of Standing cypress. They do best in dry sandy or sandy loam soil and are best growing in clumps since the nature of the plant is to be very thin and tall. No one seems to know for sure if it is a perennial or biennial but in northern states both behave more as annuals and in the right conditions they will reseed. Burpee seeds puts out a packet that they call Hummingbird Mix which is Ipomopsis rubra. The one year I had reseeders they came up here and there and I left them where they grew up between the salvias and they were very pretty and the hummers used them a lot. The next year the soil was just too wet and I didn't have any come back

Penny
Niagara Falls, NY
USDA zone 6a/6b
Heat zone 4
Sunset zone 39
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(Login Naturelover68)
Hummingbird lover 2009

Re: A little ID help please

October 15 2009, 4:02 PM 

I'm fortunate to have sandy loam so the Ipomopsis do well for me as do Agastaches. The original seeds I planted were 'Hummingbird Mix' which did have the mix of colors. After several years they have reverted to mostly red with a few peach mixed in. I have them planted on the south side of my house which is brick and it can get very warm there in the winter when the sun is shining. It's a good microclimate for plants that are a little tender this far north. I'm assuming that helps the Ipompsis overwinter. I also have a crossvine growing on the south wall and it stays evergreen in my zone 5b garden except for last year when the temp dropped to -14. That's very cold for this area and was just too much for the crossvine. It froze to the ground so it didn't get any flowers this year. I was disappointed and the hummingbirds probably were, too.

Gary
Napoleon, OH
USDA Zone 5b

 
 
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