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Cardinal Flowers

August 8 2017 at 2:23 PM
jp  (Login nalono1)
Hummingbird Member 2005

Took a cool refreshing walk in one of the parks this morning. The cardinal flower was in good bloom and about 6 juvenile hummers feeding and fighting.

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Indy Steve
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Hummingbird lover 2007

Re: Cardinal Flowers

August 8 2017, 9:06 PM 

That truly is a very nice stand of lobelia cardinalis . I have a small patch in my back yard of which hummers use on a daily account.
Steve
Martinsville In.
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Kathi and Michael Rock
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Re: Cardinal Flowers

August 9 2017, 1:33 AM 

jp,

That is an amazingly stunning display!! I would be thrilled to see this in nature---not many people have enough space to grow this much Cardinal Flower. Lucky you and thank you for sharing it with us!!
Michael and Kathi Rock
Madison, WI
Zone 5

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Donald in MN
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Hummingbird Member 2006

Re: Cardinal Flowers

August 9 2017, 8:33 PM 

JP:

Beautiful picture--thanks for posting. I'm curious--the bed of cardinal flower looks like it is in a municipal park rather than a wild park (mowed lawn surrounding bed, playground in the back). Is that a wild corner of the park, or is it a prepared bed or rain garden that was planted with cardinal flower? I can see what looks like iris in the bed, too. Either way, it is a beautiful sight and would certainly draw the attention of any hummingbird passing by!

Don
Zone 4 Red Wing MN
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Joni
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Hummingbirder 2008

Re: Cardinal Flowers

August 9 2017, 10:08 PM 

That is quite impressive. My cardinalis never survives for long but my behaved siphilitica reseeded quite a bit last year after removing 6 trees near that side. Apparently needed more sun. Bought more cardinalis again & also bought a couple of cheapy 'Starship Deep Rose' to add to the mix.

That stand above appears to be on an incline, maybe in a ditch so they don't have to mow. Quite a good idea.

Joni
Elwood, IL
Zone 5b
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jp
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Hummingbird Member 2005

Re: Cardinal Flowers

August 11 2017, 8:22 PM 

It is in a municipal park. It is like a rain garden, boggy area. I imagine that the city originally planted some and they have reseeded. Is close to lake.

 
 

Kathi and Michael Rock
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Hummingbird Member 2006

Re: Cardinal Flowers

August 12 2017, 1:39 AM 

Cardinal Flower loves our yard and we have 100% return of all plants with some additional reseeding every season. This year has been particularly good with all of the spring rain. This heavy, rich soil has to be good for something!!
Michael and Kathi Rock
Madison, WI
Zone 5

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Adrienne
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Hummingbird Lover 2015

Re: Cardinal Flowers

August 23 2017, 11:37 AM 

Wow, that is fantastic. Someone planted a cardinal flower patch recently at the entrance to a park here but I've never seen a hummingbird around it. It's at a busy intersection though. It would be nice to see more of this.

 
 
Dan
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Hummingbird lover 2009

Re: Cardinal Flowers

August 23 2017, 2:22 PM 

There is definitely a pattern with the cardinal flower in my garden, with regard to hummer use. During the first half of the CF bloom, beginning in mid July, hummers use it quite a bit. After the first week of August, hummer use of CF falls off a cliff. It's like this every year. I'm guessing it may have to do with the timing of the salvia bloom. When CF first begins to bloom, salvia blooms are still sparse. By mid August, the salvias explode with blooms.
East-central Iowa
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Kathi and Michael Rock
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Hummingbird Member 2006

Re: Cardinal Flowers

August 24 2017, 1:08 AM 

We don't have as many hummingbirds as many Forum members and we have so many other top tier flowers that they really like, but I have to agree with Dan 100%---Cardinal Flower is most used in the earliest period of its bloom in July. It is exceedingly rare to see Cardinal Flower used now, although we still have some blooming. It's all about salvia, canna, nicotiana, etc.
Michael and Kathi Rock
Madison, WI
Zone 5

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Donald in MN
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Hummingbird Member 2006

Re: Cardinal Flowers

August 24 2017, 9:01 PM 

Dan and Kathi:

I was going to post separately about this, but then I saw your recent posts in this thread so I thought I'd just add some thoughts here. I, too, have had a similar pattern I've seen last year and this year in my new garden. I have three large patches of cardinal flower in my new garden and when they start blooming in July there is much action in those patches as the hummers feed from and defend the patches from one another. I, too, see much reduced use of cardinal flower in my garden in August, though the bloom is just as strong now.

I have an alternate theory that may be at play, at least in my garden. A couple of weeks ago when I was out in the garden there was a lot of action in the cardinal flower patches, but it wasn't from hummingbirds. Honey bees were all over the blooms and were nectar-robbing, cutting the base of the flowers and obtaining nectar from the chewed in holes. I'd never seen so many honeybees in a flower patch! I don't have Salvia in my garden that is pulling away the hummingbirds. The only other plant blooming well right now is standing cypress, and that is getting good action, but I have far more cardinal flower than standing cypress.

Donald
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Kathi and Michael Rock
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Re: Cardinal Flowers

August 25 2017, 1:25 AM 

Don,

That is an interesting theory. We have so many bees in our garden right now---maybe that is what is happening or I was thinking that Cardinal Flower peak bloom might be in July, but I'm not sure. I find with perennials or native plants that hummingbirds tend to ignore them after they have been blooming for a while or maybe the novelty wears off---it's hard to say. I have always assumed though that our other exotics that reach their peak bloom in late August and early September---tender salvias, nicotiana, and canna are drawing hummingbirds away from natives such as Cardinal Flower and Jewelweed (although we saw a hummingbird working over jewelweed today.)
Michael and Kathi Rock
Madison, WI
Zone 5

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D_Kleiser
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Hummingbird lover 2011

Re: Cardinal Flowers

August 25 2017, 7:20 PM 

I'm sure the hummingbirds find that to be worth fighting for!
My Cardinal Flowers are almost done, except this years seedlings which are just starting.
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