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Salvia coccinea 'Vermilion'-photos added

September 1 2017 at 3:28 PM

Kathi and Michael Rock  (Login kathirock)
Hummingbird Member 2006

I ordered this new Salvia coccinea from Flowers By The Sea this season. I was thrilled that it would be much taller than most Salvia coccineas (which tend to get lost in our garden.)

http://www.fbts.com/salvia-coccinea-vermilion.html


The flowers were supposed to be a lovely salmon color (and I'm embarrassed to say that it's just blooming now for us for the first time this season), but on our plant they are pink (like 'Coral Nymph', but maybe a little pinker, but definitely pink---will try to post a photo later.)

The description on the FBTS website says that some plants will have white flowers, but there is nothing about pink.

It's not bad, but just different than I was expecting.
Michael and Kathi Rock
Madison, WI
Zone 5

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I love Hummingbirds
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Re: Salvia coccinea 'Vermilion'

September 1 2017, 9:26 PM 

Pink is a new one for us. If you can post a picture at some point I would appreciate it.
Kermit Carter
Flowers by the Sea
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Cathy P (Downers Grove, IL Zone 5b)
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Re: Salvia coccinea 'Vermilion'

September 2 2017, 8:11 AM 

I have had salvia coccinea from seed
I purchased red and actually ended up
with some pink ones. The were very
pretty and seem to grow a tad taller then the
reds I have
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Joni
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Re: Salvia coccinea 'Vermilion'

September 2 2017, 1:29 PM 

Coccinea seedlings are popping up all over the yard the past couple of weeks. Really takes a long time to germinate as I found none prior. I just leave them. I read about 'Vermillion' somewhere but never saw it locally for sale.

Joni
Elwood, IL
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Kathi and Michael Rock
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Re: Salvia coccinea 'Vermilion'

September 2 2017, 1:46 PM 

Joni,

This plant is only available from Flowers By The Sea by mail order. It is much taller and sturdier (leaves are quick thick) with much larger flowers than the species Salvia coccinea. We will be posting photos later today or tomorrow.
Michael and Kathi Rock
Madison, WI
Zone 5

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Kathi and Michael Rock
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Re: Salvia coccinea 'Vermilion'-photos added

September 4 2017, 6:35 PM 

Here is a picture of the two tone Salvia coccinea 'Vermilion':

vermilionpink.jpg

It was very difficult to capture the true color of the flowers. They are pink on the bottom and white on the top. Almost like a Hot lips salvia appearance.

We forgot that we purchased two of these plants. The plant above with the pink/white is in a pot in our front yard (about 4 feet tall). Here is one in a pot on our deck in the backyard (a little shorter, maybe 2 1/2 feet):

vermilionred.jpg

This one is flowering with the correct colors.

Michael and Kathi Rock
Madison, WI
Zone 5

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Dylan
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Re: Salvia coccinea 'Vermilion'-photos added

September 5 2017, 12:11 AM 

Kathi and Michael,
My Vermillion were similar to the color of your second plant picture but not quite the same. One of mine was more red than the other. Both are about 3 feet to 3.5 feet tall now. They flowered for a long time I keep hoping they will flower again.

 
 
Nancy Newfield
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Re: Salvia coccinea 'Vermilion'-photos added

September 5 2017, 11:25 AM 

I confess that I am the source of FBTS's Salvia coccinea 'Vermilion', seed of which I obtained about 20 years ago, from a fellow Humnetter, who lived in the Dallas area. About 10% of its volunteer seedlings bloom pure white, but I have never had any other color come up - until recently. Over the years, I have kept it limited to my back yard while other colors were always in the front yard. For me this cultivar grows to 3 to 3 1/2 feet tall, while the white 'sports' can be a little taller. The usual color is a soft, orangey red.
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Joni
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Re: Salvia coccinea 'Vermilion'-photos added

September 5 2017, 12:51 PM 

Kathi,
I knew I saw it mentioned somewhere before & it wasn't FBTS. Might have been in some publication or grower info somewhere & don't even recall how long ago.

But, your pictures turned out just fine on my end. Like that pink since it appears to meld with some peachy tones. Kinda reminds me of a mild tie dye. The color of your 2nd picture is the same as the one I saw & like Nan said...orangey red.

Both are pretty anyway!

Joni
Elwood, IL
Zone 5b
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I love Hummingbirds
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Re: Salvia coccinea 'Vermilion'-photos added

September 7 2017, 1:15 PM 

I appreciate the pictures, Kathi.

We grew out the original seed from Nancy, and selected the strongest and tallest deep orange plant as the source for this year's plants. We have done the same this year for 2018, selcting from a much larger pool. With this effort, the strain should "clean up" as far as the odd rogue colors as time goes on. We're very careful to isolate our seed producing stock to alleviate unwanted cross pollination by our hummingbird flock (which does NOT make them happy). At least all of the Vermilion seedlings grow well, even though there is at this point some color variation.

Thanks to all for their patience with this.
Kermit Carter
Flowers by the Sea
Elk, California
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Cathy P (Downers Grove, IL Zone 5b)
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Re: Salvia coccinea 'Vermilion'-photos added

September 8 2017, 10:40 AM 

I actually like the pink and hey if the hummers will use it
why not add a new color, kinda reminds me of Stans Salvia
the colors I had with that plant
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Indy Steve
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Re: Salvia coccinea 'Vermilion'-photos added

September 8 2017, 12:15 PM 

Kathi

I usually have my coral nymph in pots so they arent covered up as you spoke of. In looking at your photo of vermillion it appears the flowers might be slightly bigger than coral nymph.
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Martinsville In.
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