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POND HOCKEY OR WHAT

September 29 2009 at 4:23 PM
ATICINTIME  (Login conwell)
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THE LATEST NUMBERS


THE CCHL............73 GMS PLAYED.....530 GLS..........7.260..GLS..PER..GM

THE ONT.JR..........50 GMS PLAYED.....389 GLS..........7.78...GLS..PER..GM

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KEV
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Re: POND HOCKEY OR WHAT

September 29 2009, 6:41 PM 

I believe the lowest goals per game average in the history of the former OPJHL was around 7.2 in 2000-01. Since 1992 the average has been over 8 and has high as over 10 in one year in the 90's.

Based on that, I'd say both leagues are playing defence. That, or teams can't score like they used to. happy.gif


 
 

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Re: POND HOCKEY OR WHAT

September 29 2009, 9:55 PM 

Or the goalies and D are playing well.

FYI - Toronto JC backup Zach Zanussi just posted consecutive shutouts vs Dixie and Markham. After 130 minutes of play he's earned a 0.46 GAA and stopped all but one of 58 shots fired his way for a 0.983 SV%.

I don't care what league you play in, those are very handsome figures.

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Re: POND HOCKEY OR WHAT

September 30 2009, 1:08 AM 

GF/Game GA/Game Goals/Game
Markham 9 5 1 0 0 1 2 13 0.722 32 21 153 3-0-1-1 2-1-0-1 3.56 2.33 5.89
Bowmanville 8 4 0 1 0 1 2 11 0.688 28 22 175 1-1-1-1 3-0-0-1 3.50 2.75 6.25
Wellington 6 3 0 2 0 1 0 11 0.917 23 17 63 1-0-1-0 2-2-0-0 3.83 2.83 6.67
Lindsay 7 4 0 0 0 0 3 8 0.571 31 28 206 2-0-0-2 2-0-0-1 4.43 4.00 8.43
Stouffville 6 2 0 2 0 0 2 8 0.667 17 19 110 1-1-0-0 1-1-0-2 2.83 3.17 6.00
Whitby 8 3 0 0 0 1 4 7 0.438 28 28 140 0-0-0-3 3-0-1-1 3.50 3.50 7.00
Cobourg 7 2 0 1 0 1 3 7 0.5 27 24 134 1-0-1-2 1-1-0-1 3.86 3.43 7.29
Ajax 7 2 1 0 0 1 3 7 0.5 28 26 148 2-0-1-3 0-1-0-0 4.00 3.71 7.71
Peterborough 6 1 0 0 0 2 3 4 0.333 13 23 139 0-0-1-2 1-0-1-1 2.17 3.83 6.00
Pickering 8 0 0 0 2 0 6 2 0.125 25 51 252 0-0-2-2 0-0-0-4 3.13 6.38 9.50


Burlington 7 6 0 0 0 0 1 12 0.857 39 15 113 2-0-0-1 4-0-0-0 5.57 2.14 7.71
Newmarket 7 4 0 2 0 0 1 12 0.857 29 18 125 2-0-0-0 2-2-0-1 4.14 2.57 6.71
Toronto 8 5 0 0 0 1 2 11 0.688 37 30 183 3-0-0-0 2-0-1-2 4.63 3.75 8.38
Orangeville 6 3 0 1 0 1 1 9 0.75 17 12 110 3-0-0-0 0-1-1-1 2.83 2.00 4.83
Hamilton 8 3 0 1 0 0 4 8 0.5 26 26 222 1-1-0-2 2-0-0-2 3.25 3.25 6.50
Streetsville 8 2 0 1 0 1 4 7 0.438 34 36 111 1-0-1-2 1-1-0-2 4.25 4.50 8.75
St. Michaels 6 3 0 0 0 0 3 6 0.5 22 21 134 1-0-0-3 2-0-0-0 3.67 3.50 7.17
Seguin 7 3 0 0 0 0 4 6 0.429 19 28 126 1-0-0-2 2-0-0-2 2.71 4.00 6.71
Upper Canada 6 2 0 0 0 1 3 5 0.417 22 30 146 1-0-1-2 1-0-0-1 3.67 5.00 8.67
North York 6 1 0 1 0 1 3 5 0.417 17 25 101 1-1-1-1 0-0-0-2 2.83 4.17 7.00
Dixie 7 1 0 1 0 0 5 4 0.286 20 34 96 0-0-0-3 1-1-0-2 2.86 4.86 7.71

 
 


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Re: POND HOCKEY OR WHAT

September 30 2009, 10:51 AM 

Anyone know of some good ponds in the GTA for skating or playing hockey?

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WEXDOG
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Pond Hockey

September 30 2009, 12:59 PM 

In addition to the various outdoor rinks.

GTA ponds(to name a few);
L'Amoreaux Park, Kennedy & McNicoll
Milliken Park, McCowan and Steeles.
Milne Park, Marham Rd, S of 7 and N of 407.


Is there a pond just down the road(Bullock) from Markham Centennial on Hyw 7 ?











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dale west
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not that i subscribe to the pond hockey theory

September 30 2009, 1:41 PM 

for either league..... but if it persists maybe collingwood is ready for the transition


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SMC57
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Re: POND HOCKEY OR WHAT

September 30 2009, 2:29 PM 

Great pond in Thornhill on Centre St just west of Yonge St on the north side.

Forty-seven years ago, we started the TMHA & the TCHL by playing outdoors on the pond.

From there we had to rent ice in Bradford starting at 6.00am in the morning. Then it was on to the Double Rinks at Jane and #7 Highway for some 12 years and then finally to the Thornhill Community Centre in 1975 at Bayview & John st.


 
 

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Re: POND HOCKEY OR WHAT

September 30 2009, 4:59 PM 

I've heard Grenadier Pond in High Park is a popular choice too (but I've also heard a lot of the time the ice is no good - so who knows).


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Just alittle "Pond Hockey" update

October 12 2009, 12:32 PM 

As of Oct. 12 here's the latest stats.

CCHL - Games - 120 Goals per game average - 7.25
OJAHL - Games - 85 Goals per game average - 8.04

Stats don't lie, enough said.

 
 
mannmi
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Re: POND HOCKEY OR WHAT

October 12 2009, 8:07 PM 

They do not score as many goals in the CCHL because it takes longer for the players to make their way up & down the ice with their short little legs.

 
 

PEPSIHEAD
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SUBLIME, OR RIDICULOUS...???

October 12 2009, 9:35 PM 

So why did they score so many last year?

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Which is it?

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Wayne Lewis
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Here's my spin

October 12 2009, 10:48 PM 

Ever notice how many runs are scored earlier in the baseball season? Then, as the pitching starts to come around, they become fewer.

Same here. Lots of fun and run and gun. Then, as the more successful coaches start to impose their will on making all of the players think of team defence, the scoring diminishes. The goaltenders start to find their groove and presto, the POND starts to become a lot smaller.

It cannot happen too soon for this fan. I love the lower scoring games that are a staple so often of the playoffs.

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Whateveritis
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Re: POND HOCKEY OR WHAT

October 13 2009, 12:03 AM 

I see the Leaves were playing pond hockey tonight.

 
 

PEPSIHEAD
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WAYNE...

October 13 2009, 9:02 AM 

I too, love the low scoring games for the most part. I just don't like it when they are dump and chasers at both ends of the rink.

Solid goaltending, and stand up D, combined with a 2-1 score, are great in my opinion.

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K2
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The Ebb and Flow of Scoring

October 13 2009, 10:09 AM 

Scoring comes and goes in all leagues and tier II in Ontario is no different. When scoring is down we like to praise goaltending and defensive team play. When scoring is up we like to praise offensive power. Much has to do with the trickle down effect from professional hockey. In the pro game, scoring and lack of scoring overall is often in response to changes in style of play in response to rule or equipment changes.

This was first manifested with the popularity of the curved stick in the sixties. Stan Makita and Bobby Hull went on a tear and scoring went up. A couple of seasons later, goaltenders responded in two ways one was the increasing popularity of the mask and increased upper body padding, the second was the development of a more pad down style first used by Glenn Hall.

The next manifestation was in the eighties when the Oilers lead by Gretzky developed a run and gun offensive style and were content to win games by 8-7 scores. Again a couple of seasons later, goaltenders responded by going more to the butterfly style which helped take away secondary scoring chances.

The next was the development of the composite stick which game the shooters an incredible tool. Goaltenders responded with lighter more contoured pads and bulkier upper body protection. The perfection of a more hybrid style of goaltending that utilizes mobility along with taking away the lower part of the net has helped keep scoring down overall.
Finally, the limitations on the size of goaltending equipment has somewhat balanced things out.

Feeble attempts by rule makers such as limiting the area in which a goaltender can play the puck, restricting the kind of player on player contact in front of the net and such have not really had any effect on scoring.

What we are seeing in the Ontario Tier II leagues are evidence of the latest equipment changes along with improved goaltender skill and the adjustments coaches are making to the way they play team defense in response to that type of play.

These are of course just my own observances based on many years of involvement in the game over the years.

 
 

Wayne Lewis
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Re: POND HOCKEY OR WHAT

October 13 2009, 10:33 AM 

And they are some pretty astute observances, K2four . Thanks for them.


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This message has been edited by wayjoy on Oct 13, 2009 10:34 AM


 
 
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