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WWI battle against gyftoboulgars.

July 5 2009 at 11:35 AM
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The top of Kounja (Mount Paikon) , westwards of the Vardar river, has an altitude of 1096 metres/3596 feet . It became well-known from the victorious battle of 16 May 1918 , one of the harder of the Macedonian Front. It was a clash of the WWI, similar in form with those of the Western Front. The Allied forces, started a 13-hour Artillery barrage, before elements of the Greek Archipelago Division were thrown to battle. The Allied force's offensive peak was constituted by the 1st Archipelago Rgt (Lt.Col. Georgios Kondyles) of the Archipelago Division. At 04:45 May 16, I/1 Btn (Major Psarras) & II/1 Btn (Cpt. Skaltsoyannes) of the Archipelago Division, marched under the fire of the Bulgarians against the first Bulgarian line of Defence (Bastion-Ouest), overrided the enemy & occupied the line Piton-Poche (the Regiment's main objective). At almost the same time, the Battalions (III/6 Btn-Major Nicholaos Plasteras, II/6 Btn-Major Vassilios Karakoufas) of the 6th Archipelago Rgt (Col. Constantine Exarchakos) after a tough & bloody fight, occupied the Bulgarian entrenchments set on the axis Courtine-Bastion Central. The Battalions (I/4 Btn-Major Vassilios Papayannes, III/4 Btn-Major Constantine Babales) of the 4th Archipelago Rgt (Lt.Col. Euthymios Tsimikales) commenced their advance against the main Bulgarian fortifications of Skra-di-Legen under heavy enemy fire. Within 15 minutes they approached the first enemy defence line. After a fierce battle, I/4 Btn although lost its CO, occupied the main defence line of Skra-di-Legen.
At the east flank of the Archipelago Division, the Regiments (7th Cretan-Lt.Col. Panagiotes Gardikas, 8th Cretan-Lt.Col. Demetrios Stavrianopoulos) of the Cretan Division commenced their advance at 04:45. The Cretans of the 7th Rgt routed the enemy & by 10:50 occupied Bochet. At 05:30, 8th Rgt advanced against the Bulgarians at Tablette & occupied it. At 14:00, III/8 Btn (Major Ioannes Vlastos) attacked the Bulgarian entrenchments at Petit Tranche Brun & after heavy fight, occupied it.
At the west flank of the Archipelago Division, the Regiments (2nd Serrae-Lt.Col. Chrestos Tseroules, 3rd Serrae-Lt.Col. Nicholaos Kalomenopoulos) of the Serrae Division, attacked the Bulgarians at 04:45. By 06:45 the objectives had been secured: 2nd Rgt occupied the town of Lunci & secured the line Boite des Bulgars-Block Roche. 3rd Rgt. made contact with the Serbian Division. Although the Bulgarians conducted strong counter-attacks, they were all repelled by the Greek Troops. Thus, the battle of Skra-di-Legen ended. Greeks suffered 2,832 casualties. There are no official records of the Bulgarian casualties. 1835 Bulgarians (35 Officers) were captured.Later loxias
grand father killed most of them.

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