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Someone - LJUPCHO - November 8 2009 at 10:35 PM No score for this post		Za Ljupcho Shpioncheto (no login)

Someone - LJUPCHO - Response to Moscow Refuses to Release 3 Bulgarians over Diplomatic Row -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Someone - LJUPCHO - Abre Ljupcho, da te prasham neshto: Vchera mi zhiveeshe od leb i voda vozeshe stara raskrntana Skoda a sega si oblechen vo Armani kostum od pust champagne odvaj stoish prostum! Od kade med i mleko na tvojata masa? Od kade dolari i marki vo tvojata kasa? Aj kazhi be kako tolku brzo se snajde kazhi kakva srekia te snajde! Dali umre bogatiot ti dedo a ti mu beshe najmilo chedo pa ti ostavi nekolku milioni bugarski leva i zlatni napoljoni? Dali gospot ja vide tvojata ogromna taga pa si reche:Kaj ovoj nema laga! Jas ke go napravam moj profet- toj ke go vladee celiot svet! Ljupcho: Aj koga me molish eve ke ti kazham bez da nadklavam ili da lazham: Prvo mu se obrativ na albanskite drugari i mu objasniv deka nie sme bugari Makedonija ke ja delime na dva dela pa ako nemu e maka - neka ja zemat cela! Pa me pokanija na gostigrchkite gospodari, abe tie bile polni so pari!!! Cel den me chasteja Ouzo i kokta pojde Stopanska, pojde i OKTA! Narodot mi vika: ami VMROvskite ideali? Dali tie se prodavat za pari??? Dali vo tebe ima savest i um??? Da ne tie gjavolot kum??? A jas chesto mu velam: Slushajte be budali idioti: Goce i Jane bea patrioti! ama nie so niv ne sme isti, tie bea komiti - nie sme kapitalisti!! sssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

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MACEDONIA IS HELLENISM-NOT BULGARISM
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SKOPIANOSKATA NEVER MACEDONIANS-ARE SLAVOBULGARIANS

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November 8 2009, 11:20 PM

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..... Who populated the lands of modern FYROM in the past? The ancient people inhabiting the area around Skopje, at the time of the ancient Macedonians, were the Dardanians, and their land was called Dardania. Throughout their modern history, the region now occupied by FYROM was populated mostly by Bulgarians. The creation of "Macedonia" (FYROM, SROM) was artificial. Ex-Yugoslavs will attest to that. FYROM is comprised of Albanians, Serbs, and Bulgarians and their language is a Bulgarian dialect with a few Serbo-croatian words. Bulgarians will attest to that and understand/speak "Macedonian". 8) What about their claim of a large minority in Greece? After usurping the name and the flag, surprise! They start claiming that Greeks in Macedonia (Greek) are a FYROM minority. After all we all identify as Macedonians. Thus, we must be the same... Some people in the Net claim 1 mill minority in Macedonia (Greek). The population of Macedonia (Greek) is 2 mill. I am a Macedonian (Greek) same with other Greeks on this group. We don't want anything to have with FYROM. We are Greek. Finally the recent Euro-Elections revealed only with their cause (therefore propably a FYROM minority) 10,000! Not fantasies of 1 million! 9) Why doesn't the Greek government recognize the "Macedonian" minority? Greek parents have been sending their children to Macedonian schools for years, expecting them to learn Greek, not Bulgarian. Macedonian people (Greeks) are already a majority in Greece, with Macedonian churches, schools and cultural centers teaching Greek and regional dances and songs. The Greek government can neither recognize a minority with the same name, as the majority, nor build non-Greek schools and churches with the same name. Greek courts have offered to open cultural centers for their minority, under a different name (than Macedonian). They have refused. As long as they use the term "Macedonian" to describe their nationality, their minorities in Greece and Bulgaria cannot be recognized. 10) What are Greece's objections with FYROM's constitution? There are two points of concern: In their preamble, they define their FYROM state as a departure from the " ...historic decisions of the Anti-Fascist Assembly of the People's Liberation of Macedonia (ASNOM)... ". The problem is that ASNOM had called for the "Macedonians" in Bulgaria and other countries to unite under Tito's rule. Their language in article 49 is also problematic (too extensive to go into here). At Greece's request they have added 2 amendements stating that they have no claims on neighbouring countries. Still, that is in contradiction with their preample, and it is to their benefit to rewrite those articles to avoid contradictions and vagueries in their Constitution. 11) Does Greece have any territorial or other claims on FYROM? In 1993, Serbia's President Milocevic, invited Greece to invade FYROM. Greece declined it. FYROM is surrounded by claims of Greater Albania, Greater Bulgaria and Greater Serbia. Greece is the only one not interested in FYROM. It is a poor, barren place with no Hellenic ties or history. Greece has the beach-front property (Aegean), and the economy differential between the two countries would only create problems for the richer one (Greece). 12) Is Greece really afraid of FYROM? Presently FYROM is too weak to threaten Greece militarily or otherwise. However, considering that: a) A general draft can raise an army of 700,000 in FYROM; b) Greece has had to fight several times against similar claims in this century to secure and defend its northern region (Macedonia); c) the Balkans are currently in a map-changing mode; d) shifting alliances may change the balance of power in the near future; The Greek state feels that the "inexplicable" adoption of an irredentist name and flag by FYROM are hostile and provocative acts designed to establish future claims on Greek Macedonia. These are the main points and we can support them with facts and evidence...............................................