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not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

October 15 2006 at 3:26 PM

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these are on the same plant and i have no clue why the plant has started throwing different blooms all of a sudden. the darker purple is the normal bloom














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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

October 15 2006, 3:34 PM 

Interesting, Mikey. Almost looks like they've been bleached out by the sun. LOL

Jarie
Rio Grande Valley, TX
Zone 9

 
 


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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

October 15 2006, 5:08 PM 

Those are really beautiful, I've never had luck with passionflower vines.

Michele
Jacksonville, Fl
Zone 9a
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

October 15 2006, 6:12 PM 

They're BEAUTIFUL! I've never tried growing them - how difficult is it?


Kathy
USDA Zone 5
Connecticut

 
 


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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

October 15 2006, 7:06 PM 

this one just grows and grows and grows it would take over the world if i let it lol. i think it may be passiflora incense i am wondering if it is past its prime and about to die. its been in this spot for about 6 years. i have two passiflora that produce edible fruit when they want to that is i almost lost one of them to the cold last year and the other just started flowering this year i used to have a red passion flower that did not produce fruit and the butterfly larva would not use it as food so i got rid of it there are allot of reds they eat on but this one they just did not like. i will keep an eye on this one see if the blooms stabalize back to normal or they keep changing i will try to get some cuttings of the white ones and the ones in between

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

October 16 2006, 11:00 AM 

Mike, they're pretty! I like the lightest and darkest shades of purple best.
By the way, the one you gave us is doing quite well, about to flower.
There's a third hiding under the big leaf in the foreground. I can hardly wait to see what they're going to look like!

Lynne Peace.
USDA Zone 9b
Heat Zone 10
Bradenton, Florida

 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

October 16 2006, 9:18 PM 

Lynne that one has tiny white flowers about the size of a querter with a purple ring on the um frilly part or tendrils the butterflies will eat on that one to it does make fruit but they are not edible on that one so i would trim the fruit off before they rippen i did nto get home in time today to see if there where still weird blooms opening

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

October 17 2006, 7:20 PM 

The first bloom was open this morning...
It's adorable, and so tiny!
It almost looks like a baby version of our first one.


Lynne Peace.
USDA Zone 9b
Heat Zone 10
Bradenton, Florida

 
 


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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

October 17 2006, 8:01 PM 

i also have one that looks similar to that bloom i have no clue of a name it is standard size but it is 30 feet up in my oak tree and it is shy about producing fruit. as in i have not seen any yet it took almost 2 years for that one to bloom from seed . i would maybe breed them to try to get a better producing frutiing one but not sure of the result of breeding a non edible one with an edible one so besides that the blooms are 30 feet in the air i would hate to make a poison fruit. if i ever get blooms on my p granadilla i will try to breed it with the one in the tree will have to figure out how to get the the blooms later lol glad you'res is blooming i never tried to smell it to see if it is scented or not i may try to breed the small white with with the purple one if i used the lighter colored blooms on the purple one it may make a decent bloom ya never know but my plant died of to much rainon the tinny one and the one seedling i have left is not blooming yet. course that all i need is another breeding experiment lol

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

October 19 2006, 6:39 PM 

heres a few pics today the one white passiflora i have in the tree has some blooms on it one was even where i could reach one. i used pollen from that one to pollinate the lighter colored p on the weird one. it has never fruited but may need cross pollen to get fruit.i saw a whole bunch of bees on the passion flowers in the tree so i may get some fruit off that this year. its about a year and a half old took its time to start floweringi would have taken a pic of one of my brug flowers but i harversted pollen from it i have to get the pollen as soon as i can or it just disapears it has been a weird year for trying to save brug pollen . oops forgot to add the pics lol















    
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

October 22 2006, 6:41 PM 

This looks like, Passiflora foetida or 'love in a mist'. Some consider it a weed!
I gathered some seeds from the roadside of this passiflora, and it has a lovely delicate flowere. Some say 'it smells like a goat...'
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

October 24 2006, 10:41 AM 

Mike, the bigger one we have there... we got it from Crowley's nursery, in Myakka, sortof... There was a weird seed pod hidden in the pot of our Brunfelsia. (The guy there picked the plant and put it in the car, not my fault we brought something else home with us... lol!) I planted some of the seeds last December/January, had no idea what they were until the two little bushes started trying to climb everything. Around March or so, the Fritillaries layed a bunch of eggs on them. Even though we didn't want to, we had to take some of the caterpillars out, the plants were too small to withstand that much munching. Then, along about May one of them gave us three flowers, I pollinated two of them and got two fruit. Hope they were edible... they tasted like some strange citrus.
Good luck with the cross-pollinating, hope you get something really good!
By the way, I read somewhere that if you give them a lot of food, they get really big and bushy, and then if you stop feeding them for a while, it'll trigger flowering. I don't know if that actually works though, I'm still working on big and bushy, lol.

Patricia, those tiny little flowers are adorable! Smells like goat?? LOL! I'm not really sure what that would be, the last time I was near a goat, I didn't take the opportunity to sniff it!

Lynne Peace.
USDA Zone 9b
Heat Zone 10
Bradenton, Florida

 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

October 26 2006, 9:09 PM 

that is a cool little passiflora i have never seen one with the fuzzy green under the flower not sure what ya would call it leaves ? the regular size whit eone i have looks just like you'res. the seeds where sent to me as unkown yellow fruit mexican variety so have no clue of the actual variety. mine just started blooming this year and its about 2 years old from seed. i hope i get some fruit. the flower i pollinated on the light purple one did not set a fruit and the vine has stoped blooming so will have to wait till it starts blooming again to see if the blooms are still the strange ones.


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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

October 28 2006, 6:41 PM 

heres a pic of a fruit on my passion fruit in the oak tree i tried to get a pic of the flower but they where all facing up this is the best i can do








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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

October 29 2006, 7:04 AM 

Mike, the fruit and leaves on that one look pretty much identical to ours, actually, so does that flower, maybe they are the same?

Lynne Peace.
USDA Zone 9b
Heat Zone 10
Bradenton, Florida

 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 15 2006, 9:27 PM 

i think i found out what happened to the passion flower
the rare fruit council meeting on monday was on pasiflora species. after the presentation i told the speaker what was going on with it. and basically what happened to mine, is that more than likely what happened with it is that most passiflora have a virus that for the most part does not affect the plant accept in climate changes so with being wet for so long with all the rain we had. than all of a sudden being dry let the virus activate for a short while he said that sometimes it will change the flowers for a time and even some times throw varigation. but that changes are not permanent if its the virus that caused it. also some other things can cause it. chemical exposure stuff like that. but with mine it had no exposure to chemicals. it will produce fruit but i will have to let it get healthy again and cross it with one of the other fruiting ones. some seedlings from passion fruit are self sterile and some are self fertile even from the same fruit the seedlings came from. i had only tried a few times to pollinate it and its was just bad timing early in the day is the best time to do it.i asked about crossing the small flowered one with the big flowered one and the chromasome counts are different so its not likely they they will cross.scratch one experiment off the list lol

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 20 2006, 3:42 PM 

Oh, I love passifloras! I have the P. foetida in pink---it also comes in a white version---and while it does stink, it doesn't smell like a goat! (If your goat starts smelling like this passie, it's time to call the vet! *grin*)

I took several cuttings off this one about a month ago, and they're all looking good. Mikey, I do think your dark purple one is Incense, which doesn't fruit very well. It's a cross between P. incarnata and, I believe, P. caerulea, and was originally bred in hopes of INCREASING fruit production. Didn't give the desired results, but did create a lovely flower!

I've had a wonderful one this summer that i thought was 'Amethyst', but it's proven much hardier than that one's supposed ot be. It's still outside, and we've had frost several times already.

 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 20 2006, 7:18 PM 

yes it is p. incensis. was told they have to be pollinated by another passiflora sometimes a seedling will be self fruitfull on its own. the p incensis is not flowering right now so cannot cross it with the white one to try to get fruit.

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mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 24 2006, 6:14 PM 

i was trying to find pics of one of the other passion fruits i have i think it is the quadrangularis. i originally thought it was a different variety. this is in the granadilla family and they call this one giant granadilla it is allot bigger than the normal varietys, but it is not the largest passion fruit out there. there is supposed to be a purple frutiing one that can be 8 pounds. this passion flower has a strong smell to it and the flowers are larger than normal passiflora. i just remembered the pics i had of the flower from that one they where in my old computer that fried. and the passion fruit did not flower this year i almost lost it to that last freeze we had here in the beginning of this year and it has not recovered real well. maybe i will get some blooms before it gets to cold.


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more passies

November 27 2006, 6:29 PM 

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only Brug nut that likes passifloras.This is Kermesina.

 
 

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 27 2006, 7:45 PM 

is that one of the bannana passion fruits ? was to lazy to search on the net lol i have seen before that there is a passiflora tree but probably to rare to get any seeds they are fussy anyways and never did find if the fruit are edible or not there are some really neat passiflora out there i would have to do grafting to get to many more types into my small yard. i have nto tried to graft anything onto the larger passion fruit i have up front or grafting it to anything i have in the back. i may do that soon try some grafting maybe the incensis will make a good rootstock to make the quadrangularis more cold hardy. worth a shot.

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 27 2006, 8:57 PM 

Countrygdn I love passiflora and that one's a beauty. I don't think I've ever seen that variety. Is it difficult to grow? I'll have to put that one along with P. parritae and P. antioquiensis on my wish list. Thanks for posting it.
Karyn

 
 


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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 28 2006, 8:45 AM 

Very pretty, countrygarden - I love passion vines, also. In what part of the country are you located? Can these stay out all winter, or do they have to be protected?

USDA Zone 7/8
Copper Canyon
North Central Texas



 
 

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 28 2006, 1:28 PM 

We are located in Milton,Fl.Kermesina will not survive our winters outside.This plant is growing in the gh and lives there year round.This is zone 8 with winter lows occasionally in the teens.As far as I know this isn't one of the banana passion flowers.I have never seen fruit on mine despite some attempts at hand pollination.

 
 

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 28 2006, 3:12 PM 

Anybody want to trade passies? I've taken several cuttings over the last few days...(*grin*)

 
 

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 28 2006, 6:22 PM 

Countrygdn are you Country Garden Nursery? If so you have some nicest brugs online. Is "Peanut" that's sold on eBay one of yours? I'm dying for that one but it's a bit too pricey for me : ( I've always received great quality plants from Country Garden. Do you also carry passis by any chance? If you are not Country Garden Nursery please disregard this message. lol

Msblatt I just potted up a few cuttings that I rooted but unfortunately forgot to label them. I'm going to have to compare foliage and see if that will give me a clue. I have some Alata, Violetta, Murucuja and Descansenea (sp?) rooting now. I've also just collected some seeds from my Violetta and Alata but I have no idea what the pollinators were. The ripe Alata fruits were all different sizes. I think it might be too cold in my zone to ship passis right now, that is if we get back down to normal temps!
Karyn

 
 


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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 29 2006, 9:34 AM 

Yes Karyn,we are Country Garden Nursery and yes,passion flowers are on our "to do" list.So far my rooting success is not good.I'm trying several different methods to see what works best.If I can't work out something that works well for us I'm going to haul all the passies to next springs roundup and give them to Brenda.Maybe she will have more luck.

MsBatt,I will try rooting a few Kermesina.If it works we can certainly trade.I think one of my first brugs came from you.


 
 


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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 29 2006, 12:39 PM 

I would just like to read about a good method for rooting passiflora cuttings. I've never had good luck with cuttings except for P. Belotti and it rooted easily in water.

ChSam (Shirley Morr)
Chariton, Iowa
Zone 5


 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 29 2006, 1:16 PM 

the only few passion fruit that i have rooted is the p incensis the p quadrangilaris and a red one that i rooted several cuttings dug the plant up and gave it away.all of those i just put 3 cuttings per pot put in a shady spot and watered every so often and they rooted. i have tried to put them in a pot of soil and cover with a plastic bag and all of those died. so sometimes pot it and almost forget about it works with some plants. survival of the fitest basically.but as a haphazard gardener i can do that, with a nursery every cutting counts i am sure there are better methods for others. for me with passiflora it seems to work i have not tried the white flowered one that fruits i may do a few cuttings of it today. that is if i can reach a few pieces it is starting to hang down out of the oak tree now so i should be able to get a few.i did do a few grafts today the p quadrangularis i grafted to the white flowered one and the p incensis.i also grafted a piece of the p quadrangularis to the white flowered one. have no clue if they will take yet but i have grafted p incensis to itself and they took.they are growing too. they have not flowered yet but growing good.well i found a pic of the quadrangularis its not a good pic it was taken with a 35 mm camera than scanned so the quality is bad






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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 29 2006, 2:16 PM 

Countrygdn, I love the pink and purple Kermesina! My favorite color combination!

Mike, I like the flower on the quadrangularis, it looks like a very pretty purple.
I think we might have to ask you for another of the tiny white one, when/if possible. I don't know what happened, one day it looked great, the next it was all wilted and hasn't come back yet. It happened on that cold, windy day... I feel terrible, it was doing so well! One of the first ones we grew wilted the same day, but the other two are fine, and we have a bunch of seedlings from that one around.

I still know basically nothing about the Passion flowers, but I keep seeing ones I like. They're tempting me to start a want list even though I know we have no where for more vines to climb.

Lynne Peace.
USDA Zone 9b
Heat Zone 10
Bradenton, Florida

 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 29 2006, 2:27 PM 

lol and i have a smaller yard than you do. on the small white flowered one i have one left the one i had planted in the ground did the same thing as you'res was fine one day than up and died the next guess this one does not like the cold at all. i will try to grow a cutting from my smallone i have left i donot have any seeds left and did not keep any of the seeds that the bigger one produced at the beginning of the year.i knew i should have poted up more than one of the ones that sprouted in the same area i had the original plant all but the one i have left got mowed over lol

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 29 2006, 2:43 PM 

That's terrible! I guess I don't feel quite so bad now that I know it wasn't just me... something I did... good luck with the cutting, I hope it roots!

Lynne Peace.
USDA Zone 9b
Heat Zone 10
Bradenton, Florida

 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 29 2006, 2:52 PM 

i just did three cuttings and had a small piece left i grafted to the p incensis that way if the cuttings don't root or the small plant i have left decides to retire lol i have at least another chance at it. lucky the one in a pot i have did not die i have not been paying it much attention so i will water it a bit more now and might even throw some fert its way. not to much to soon but a little bit.

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 29 2006, 4:20 PM 

I've had good results rooting passion vine cuttings though I've only tried with about 6 varieties. What I'm having trouble with is growing them from seed. I realize that germination rates vary but so far I haven't had a single seed emerge. Maybe I'm just impatient, I started 2 varieties a couple weeks ago.......
Karyn

 
 

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 29 2006, 8:39 PM 

well seeds i have not had many sprout from seed accept for ones i did not want to come up the wild corkbark passiflora comes up everywhere . out of 5 or so varietys of seed that where sent to me i have two plants out of any of those seeds thats it. so my luck with growing them from seeds is not good either.one was the small flowered white one and the other the normal sized white one that now is flowering and has fruit on it. ther emust be a trick to growing them some people will say they are easy and they get all they plant to grow. we all have plants that we say are easy to grow and ones that are hard and it may be visa versa for someone else

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 30 2006, 8:52 AM 

Does this help? Here.
I found this page the day our first one flowered. There's some info on seeds, starting cuttings, fertilizing, pollinating, etc....

The last group of seeds gave me a decent germination rate. The only problem was that I gave up on them ever growing and reused the dirt for doing some repotting. Now I'm picking them out from around the other plants and putting them in their own pots.

Lynne Peace.
USDA Zone 9b
Heat Zone 10
Bradenton, Florida

 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

November 30 2006, 7:07 PM 

i found this link to daves garden i am pretty sure this is p. morifolia the small passion flower. seen something else said donot overwater so that is prob why mine died with all that rain we had, must have started root rot and just never recovered. i was going to try to cross this little one with my p. incensis to try to get a more fruitfull larger fruit out of it was guessing the flower would be somehwere in between the two in size. but have been told that the chromisomes are way to different for it to cross.but if i can get the one i have left to flower and my p incensis will start flowering again i will still try.seen a few other things that sya the fruit is edible just not very big
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/38333/index.html>

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

December 1 2006, 3:06 PM 

Thanks for the link, Mike.
I think the first comment is kind of interesting. Although the person is talking about a different species, as far as I know most of the Passifloras have the same chemicals that are mild seditives, just in different amounts. Ofcourse that doesn't mean go and brew a cup of tea if you're having trouble sleeping, it's another one of the -if you don't know what you're doing, don't- kind of things. They also contain cyanide, well, technically a cyanogenic glycoside that combines with an enzyme when the plant is crushed or torn. The combination releases hydrogen cyanide (cyanide gas.) Not a big deal for those of us who wish to grow them, but I don't think it'd be a good idea to handle the plants in an enclosed area for an extended length of time.

Lynne Peace.
USDA Zone 9b
Heat Zone 10
Bradenton, Florida

 
 

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

December 8 2006, 10:25 PM 

My best success in rooting passifloras is using florists' foam, or 'wet' foam. I soak it for 10-15 minutes, then cut it into small cubes. I take two-node cuttings, cutting about a quarter-inch below the bottom node (and it's VERY important with passies to not get confused at to which IS the 'bottom' node!). I dip the end into rooting hormone, then insert the cutting about half-way into the foam, making the bottom node just slightly below the surface. I then put the cubes in a shallow tray, with enough water to come about half-way up the cubes. Keep the water level constant and the light bright but indirect. When yousee roots cming out of the sides of the foam, they're ready to pot up, but be VERT cerain the foam is COMPLETLY covered with soil---otherwise, it will wick moisture away from your tender young roots. As the roots grow, they'll break down the foam.

 
 

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

December 9 2006, 9:43 AM 

i just found a pack of a few seeds of passion flower i forgot about them not even sure how old they are so i have a few soaking and will see if they are even still any good. and have no clue of the variety.they where sent free with some other seeds from an ebay bid.they where just marked passion flower. the graft i did of the quadrangularis onto the unkown white flowered one is still looking good. the same grafted to the p incensis the first one failed but have another one on there and covered it better. and will have to wait till the small white flowered one gets a bit bigger the first graft did not make it on the p incensis.the cuttings of the small white one look good so far.so hopefully i will be able to get one to ya lynne.

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

December 9 2006, 1:10 PM 

Thanks Judith, I'm going to have to try your method and see if I can get it to work for me. I've spent lots of money replacing passiflora vines each year and certainly would enjoy not having to do that. LOL!

ChSam (Shirley Morr)
Chariton, Iowa
Zone 5


 
 


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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

December 10 2006, 5:38 AM 

Thanks for the rooting method, Ms. Batt, going to have to give that one a try.

Mike, I'm happy to hear the cuttings are looking good so far. I still have the pot with the dead looking vine, checking daily for any signs of life. I wonder if there's any chance it could come back?

Lynne Peace.
USDA Zone 9b
Heat Zone 10
Bradenton, Florida

 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

December 10 2006, 8:20 PM 

when i get some more soil i just found a poted plant that has some of the small white flowered passionflowers sprouting in it. i will pot them up and when they get to growing i will be able to get a few to ya. weird that it took this long for them to sprout mine died in august and just now getting sprouts in the plant that was near the vine.

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

December 15 2006, 1:54 PM 

Mike, that wonderful!
I have some other plants starting here, from seeds and stuff, perhaps you'll want some? I'll ask when you come by.

Lynne Peace.
USDA Zone 9b
Heat Zone 10
Bradenton, Florida

 
 

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

December 15 2006, 11:41 PM 

I put some Ruby Glow and Murucuja cuttings in a jar of water on a heat mat and had roots within two weeks. They transitioned to soil without a problem and are doing great. I'm going to try that with all my passi cuttings from now on.
Karyn

 
 


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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

December 20 2006, 9:29 PM 

Judith, your method of rooting with 2 nodes... is that new growth, woody stems, or somewhere in between?
We went back to the botanical garden yesterday and found these three and one other, I'd like to get cuttings from all of them to root.


Lynne Peace.
USDA Zone 9b
Heat Zone 10
Bradenton, Florida

 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

December 21 2006, 1:24 PM 

you women can take large purses into those places to carry allot of things "cuttings" don't know bout anyone else but no cutting is worth me carrying a purse anywhere lol

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Karyn
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

December 21 2006, 2:20 PM 

Lynne the first pic looks like it might be a P amethystina and the last one is a vitifolia. The vitifolia roots easily from cuttings and the amethystina seeds are easy to germinate. I'm not sure if I've taken cuttings from my amethystina.

I stuff my little ones diaper bag full of cuttings and seeds when we are at a botanical garden or a park. We took the kids to Hershey Park, PA over the summer and I must have had about 50 cuttings by the time we left. My husband and kids were so embarrassed. lol
Karyn

 
 


(Login lynnehardi)

Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

December 21 2006, 7:40 PM 

LOL, Mike!
Perhaps we lucked out with this place? We asked about getting 1 cutting from their Versicolor Peach Brug. The woman in charge told us to cut about half of it off and keep the cuttings, she wanted it to bush out more. I think we ended up with 150 to 170 peach Brugs. Next time we went there, we took about 80 plants with us and left them for the park, took more a second time. That trip we were told to take any cuttings we want. I guess whatever we prune, the volunteers don't have to... there is no "staff," volunteers do all of the work.

Karyn, thanks for the ID on the two of them! Perhaps I should start carrying my paint brushes with me and pollinate their Passion Flowers and then collect the fruit?

Lynne Peace.
USDA Zone 9b
Heat Zone 10
Bradenton, Florida

 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

December 21 2006, 9:08 PM 

is the botanical garden you are talking about the pamisola botanical park or is there one i donot know about around here i have been to selby donot recal any passion flowers there

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

December 22 2006, 10:44 PM 

It's Palma Sola. Haven't been to Selby yet, might have to go one of these days, just to see what they have.

Lynne Peace.
USDA Zone 9b
Heat Zone 10
Bradenton, Florida

 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

December 23 2006, 8:37 PM 

i just ate one of the fruit from my normal white flowered one it is allot more sour than the last one i had that was the same looking flower i may just have to let the next few ripen a bit more this one was fully yellow but the skin was still solid it is usually best to eat the fruit when it is wrinkled a bit it is usually sweeter. hopefully they will be sweeter. the last one i could eat when it had just turned yellow but than again with all the wind we had it may have made this fruit drop too soon. i let it sit for a few days but may have tried it to soon. if it does nto get any sweeter i will have to learn to make juice out of it.

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

January 4 2007, 8:25 PM 

i just picked up a few plants at a nursery today one of those was the passion flower called lady margaret it was 6 bucks for a l gal plant but there where two cuttings in the pot so i pulled one out and repoted it than planted the other one so i guess split up it makes them 3 bucks a piece so not so bad they had several other varietys but they where larger plants and allot more expensive so they stayed there.they had some brugs but no named ones just peach or pink or yellow i did see brugmansia x candida but still did nto have a name to it so i left them there too

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(Login ChSam)
Hummingbird lover 2007

Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

January 4 2007, 9:29 PM 

Just wondering why you, Mikey, have two posts together and one is from from mikeyinfla and one is from anonymous...How did you manage that?


ChSam (Shirley Morr)
Chariton, Iowa
Zone 5


 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

January 4 2007, 9:37 PM 

i think i forgot the put my name in the you're name section in the last one

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Karyn
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

January 4 2007, 9:43 PM 

You'll like the Lady Margaret. It has a pretty medium sized flower, is a fast grower and a heavy bloomer, even inside. As far as I know it doesn't produce fruit but it is easy to propagate from cuttings.
Karyn




 
 


(Login ChSam)
Hummingbird lover 2007

Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

January 5 2007, 11:50 AM 

Mikey, mine goes in automatically. There is probably something you can do to fix that, but I'm totally challenged when it comes to this stuff. Maybe someone will be able to tell you how to do it. Will save you having to put your name in each time you post, anyway.

ChSam (Shirley Morr)
Chariton, Iowa
Zone 5


 
 

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Hummingbird lover 2007

Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

January 9 2007, 12:42 AM 

Hi, so glad you're talking about Passies. I read this whole thread & that little passie is p morifolia. I got seeds from someone maybe 3-4 yrs ago. Had no problem getting them growing, but I ripped it out cuz flowers were too small - could hardly see them!
Year before that, I bought a seedling Maypop (incarnata) & planted in ground. It grew great...got beautiful flowers, but it got too cold for fruits to mature. They are s'posed to be hardy to Z5, so I cut it back & mulched heavily. It never came back.
Then, someone sent me 3 rooted cuttings (coral glow, lavender Lady, & blue ??)in summer '03 -04. That winter had them under grow lites --grew like weeds. Planted them out in huge planter last 2 summers, and '05 got 2 flowers on one. Last summer the vines were everywhere & I got NO FLOWERS! I fert'd & even put a banana in soil for potassium (so I read). Why didn't they bloom? I chucked them but took cuttings that rooted in water. I'm going back to my fav...Maypop.
Anyway, how do you get them to bloom? Thanks

Patty
Milwaukee, Wi
zone 5

 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

January 9 2007, 8:54 PM 

the only passiflora i fert is the quadrangularis most of the others grow fine with no help from me i may fert the normal size white flowered one that has yellow fruit so far the few frutis i have eaten where really sour the last plant i had that looked almost 100 percent the same. had tart but still sweet fruit. i may fert it to see if it helps. the ones i grow for the butterflies i donot do anything to especially no spraying.i let the larva eat on them looks like the lady margeret is about to bloom seems early for a cutting that is only 10 inches tall to bloom but i have never grown the lady margeret.the p incense blooms when it wants to. the yellow fruited white flowered one is a seedling and its is the first year it has started blooming hopefully the fertilizer will help the sweetness or maybe some more maturity.some fruiting plants will nto set fruit if there is allot of nitrogen fertilizer used they just grow and grow with no fruit some fruiting plants the more nitrogen you put on them and the more growth they get the more fruit you get.i use a fert that was formulated for this area. and has minors its an 8-3-9 we donot need phosforus in florida seeing as how about 3 miles from me is an old phosphate mine.if you have been getting alot of growth and the plant looks healthy they may just be taking a break i used to have a red one that i got rid of cause it was sterile no fruit and the butterfly larva would not eat on it.it bloomed really heavy than nothing seemed like forever than a heavy bloom some of them just bloom all the time. right now the p incense is taking a break no blooms in site. i almost lost the quadrangularis from that last freeze we had here last year. it is growing good again so i may get some blooms before to long.not sure if any of my rambeling helped

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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

January 10 2007, 1:15 PM 

Everything I've seen so far said that if you give them the best soil and plenty of food they'd grow big and bushy but with little to no flowers, but if they're in poor soil with no food they'll flower a lot.

On the name issue, if you click on "My Account" while logged in, then on "profile," make sure your name is in the box that says "Name (First Last)" You don't have to include your last name and it doesn't even have to be your real name. If your name is there, it will automatically be added whenever you post anything. This also works for your email address, where it says "external email."
If you check the box that says "Allow this profile information to be viewed by those interested in me online." others can view the information by clicking on your login name... just for example, try clicking on my name where it says (Login lynnehardi).

By the way, check this out...

It must have either floated into our yard, or perhaps was dropped by a squirrel or bird? We found it where all of the other plants pop up after floating in during floods. Don't know what it is yet, but it looks like a Passion Flower to me.

Lynne
USDA 9b, Heat 10
Bradenton, Florida
Peace.

 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

January 10 2007, 4:27 PM 

that is the florida native corky bark passion flower the flower is about the size of a dime and is green than produces a small purple fruit i canot remember the botanical name.

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(Login lynnehardi)

Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

January 11 2007, 10:15 AM 

Well, that's wonderful! That means that two of the native ones have moved into our yard on their own and even if the flowers aren't large and showy, they're still attractive. Plus, after the plants have grown a bit, we'll have plenty of food for the Zebra Longwing and Gulf Fritillaries!

Lynne
USDA 9b, Heat 10
Bradenton, Florida
Peace.

 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

March 11 2007, 5:15 PM 

heres a better pic of my P. Qudrangularis i hand pollinated it so i hope i get a fruit. it has a few more blooms developing so i should get some this year.






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(Login kskbhk)

Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

March 12 2007, 7:15 AM 

Beautiful! That's one of my favorites. I didn't get many mature fruit from mine last year. I think some of the critters that visit my yard found it to their liking and ate all the ones on the lower branches. I just planted some of the seed I collected in the fall. I wonder which of my other passies pollinated it? I hope you get lots of fruit.
Karyn

 
 


(Login ChSam)
Hummingbird lover 2007

Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

March 12 2007, 11:19 AM 

I've never tried this one. She is pretty, Mikey. I hope your pollination takes and you get some cool vines from the seeds.

ChSam (Shirley Morr)
Chariton, Iowa
Zone 5


 
 


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Brug Moderator - Retired

Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

March 12 2007, 11:51 AM 

The color & markings are outstanding...she's a beaut!

Patrick
Brug Moderator
USDA Zone 8b
Heat Zone 3
Sunset Zone 5
SeaTac, WA...one cool place

 
 

(Login Lenette)

Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

March 13 2007, 11:59 AM 

Nice pic. I love passionflowers also. I have a ruby glow that looks similar to mikeys pic,but is more red and pruple, I'm afraid to cut on it yet since I just started it from seed last spring and its only about 3ft high- it grows really slow at first..

About 3 wks ago I tried an experiement rooting several passiflora in water. I know from past experience that sunburst roots really well in water so they were the first to root. I used filtered water (we have water softener so I have to use filtered) with a little H2o2 mixed in and a little rooting hormone. I put p_Jeannette, Vitrifolia, belotti, purple passionfruit, sunburst, and caerulea all in water in an indirect sunlit window. So far fully rooted are sunburst, belotti, and p_jeannette. The other all have calluses over the ends and white bumps that look like they will root except vitrifolia which is only slightly callused. I also threw a blue skyflower in the mix- those root very fast in water!

I like the idea of rooting in foam. I'm gonna try that.
Usually I root passiflora in a 3 liter pop bottle cut in half widthwise. You puncture drainage holes in the bottom and put fill the bottom half with perlite. take cutting dipped in rooting hormone and place in perlite. Put the top over the bottom and secure with clear tape and mist leaves through the hole (where the cap top goes) Place cap back on. I have to mist everyday here because it is so dry-put the whole thing in indirect light or shade.

 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

March 14 2007, 8:20 PM 

I saved three of the pollen pads from the P.Quadrangularis you can put them in a sealed container in the fridge heard tell for a good long while. i took one of them out and pollinated the lady margarete passiflora. will see if it sets a fruit so it will be a P.lady margarete X P.Quadrangularis. not sure of its species name for the lady margarete.the smaller flowered white one and the tiny flowered wild cork bark one i am told they will not cross with the other types of passiflora. the chromasome difference is to great for them to cross i have no clue about how all that works will probably try it any ways.not like i need more hybridizing projects o well maybe i can try again to get the neibors to let me start planting stuff at there places lol not likely. i need a yard extender.

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(Login magicman2u)
Hummingbird Member 2006

Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

March 19 2007, 10:52 AM 

Another person ...I am soo jealous of. You southerners..really got it going on down there...huh! Mike..amazing flowers..thanks for the pics....wayne

Wayne Thompson
North Tonawanda,NY
USDA zone 6a/6b
Heat zone 4
Sunset zone 39






 
 


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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

March 19 2007, 12:18 PM 

Wait til we in the south start complaining about the hot dry temps in a couple of months, Wayne. There are trade offs, you know. LOL

Jarie
Mission, TX
Rio Grande Valley
Zone 9

 
 

(Login kskbhk)

Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

March 19 2007, 1:43 PM 

Mikey you'll have to let us know what happens. I was under the assumption that a Lady Margaret won't set fruit. If it works that could be an interesting cross. You could have the size & shape of the quadrangularis with the bright red color of the Lady Margaret!
Karyn

 
 

mikeyinfla
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

March 19 2007, 7:38 PM 

well unfortunately we had allot of wind sunday and the flowers on both plants got blown off. i am waiting for flowers on each to open the quadrangularis takes it time making blooms would not be that noticeable accept the plant has not grown much since last year. if the plant was allot bigger the blooms would open more often.i will save pollen of the lady margeret and use it to pollinate the Quadrangularis. i have no clue if the L.M. will produce fruit or not.maybe i will get a few days with no wind next time i pollinate the flowers. sometimes it takes a few days before they are set well enough to take some punishment.and the Quadrangularis i think i will just call it Q from now on is sorta cold sensitive here there was no damage this year but almost lost it last year.i did just get some plants i ordered. they are plants that they tell me will not grow here. but have to push that envelope.

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Karyn
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Re: not brugs but a few strange passion flowers

March 19 2007, 8:20 PM 

Don't you just love the challenge of trying to grow something that's supposed to be next to impossible in your climate? Sometimes you're successful, others not but it's fun trying. I've got some P. antioquensis seedlings started and they will definitely be a challenge to get to bloom here. I have less than 3 months of favorible conditions for that variety. It's either too hot or too cold most of the year. Good luck with your cross.
Karyn

 
 
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