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Hybridization Genetics

March 10 2008 at 8:21 AM

  (Login Johnestewart)

Does anyone know if the pod parent contributes more to the gene pool than the pollen parent? For example, if you cross arborea with sang & arborea is the "mother" will the offspring lean more toward that side of the gene pool?

John
Western Oregon
Zone 7-8


    
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Re: Hybridization Genetics

March 12 2008, 4:58 AM 

Yes, usually it does a little on average, but it can go either way really. Sometimes it's just certian traits that lean more towards the mother & others lean towards the father.

Tom H.
Marysville, WA Zone 8a

 
 


(Login Johnestewart)

Re: Hybridization Genetics

March 18 2008, 3:57 PM 

Thanks for the info, Tom. I guess I'll have lots of experimentation to look forward to. I talked to Illie Gacheu, the brug expert @ Strybing & he said he has had trouble getting sang pollen to take with arboreas. Any thoughts?


John
Sweet Home, Oregon
Zone 7-8

 
 

Tom
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Re: Hybridization Genetics

March 18 2008, 5:51 PM 

Hi John,
Sure, a couple ideas. First you want to cut open the arborea pod parent flower very early, while it is still green and in the calyx, and remove the anthers before they fluff up with pollen. Otherwise you might have a self-fertilization (common with arborea)and wrongly think it was the cross you were attempting. There are a few "flavas" out there that look just like arboreas, and I suspect this might have been what happened.
Second, pay close attention to the timing of your pollen harvest from the sanguinea parent. You want to harvest the pollen when it's just barely reached it's prime, when it is fluffy & fat.
Third, for the actual pollination, you can reopen that arborea just before it would normally mature and pollinate it then, while it is most receptive.
Also try pollinating in the very early hours of the day or in the evening after sundown. Some have even reported their best success pollinating in the dark with a headlamp!
Since arboreas are sooo self-fertile sometimes, you want to do that first step to some control flowers that do not actually receive any pollen at all. None of these controls should develop pods. This wil help you establish that you were able to successfully remove the anthers early enough not to get self-pollination, which is often tough to do.

Tom H.
Marysville, WA Zone 8a


    
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Re: Hybridization Genetics

March 18 2008, 6:24 PM 

Fantastic information, Tom! Good meaty topic.

Patrick
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