yep, and some refs seem to have a problem with Clintwood and I think its horrible when grown men dictate and try and help decide the outcome of the game. My opinion is call it both ways or don't call it at all...but it seems to me that most of the games it only goes one way. Check out these refs and I bet that they probably were players getting it handed to them from the Cummins teams. Revenge is best served cold!!!!