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Proxy servers & phony IP addresses

November 19 2011 at 4:22 PM
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  (Premier Login BarryBridgeford)
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from IP address 174.115.37.51

Aurora, Ontario
Canada

I'm being plagued by an individual who is taunting that he can get onto and post on my forum even though I have blocked his own IP addresses.

He has in fact posted on the forum and been abusive, using a "proxy".

He's using a free service at http://www.hidemyass.com/.

Is there any way to deal with this kind of abuse?



Barry Bridgeford
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http://www.abrweb.ca/docs/ABR-LNT-L50S.pdf .. Backcountry of Algonquin Park Leave No Trace Outdoor Skills and Ethics

 
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(Premier Login ripperproductions)
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Simple

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November 19 2011, 6:15 PM 

make your forum "members only". Problem solved.


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(Premier Login bob2aa)
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74.131.188.86
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Lexington, KY
United States

Re: Simple

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November 19 2011, 8:12 PM 

Blocking IP addresses is worthless,because of Proxy servers.

As Ripper has pointed out,make it Members Only.

Another way is to create a Group. Put your members in that Group. Then set your forum access code to allow that group to post,but anyone else would be set to Read Only or Post Moderated access.


Cheers,Bob
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(Premier Login bob2aa)
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Lexington, KY
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Setting up a group

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November 20 2011, 5:54 PM 


 
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(Premier Login BarryBridgeford)
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Really bugged!

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November 22 2011, 5:42 AM 

I'm aware of the "Members' Group" option. I'm avoiding going that route if i can.

I'm only being plagued by one individual who's using proxy IP'#'s.

I set a block onhis proxy server's group # by using a "zero" in the last segment of the block. However, this morning the same person got through anyway with a number within that banned group. How can he do that if a block is supposed to be in place?



Barry Bridgeford
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http://www.ABRweb.ca .. Algonquin Backcountry Recreationalists - Caring for Algonquin's Backcountry
http://www.abrweb.ca/docs/ABR-LNT-L50S.pdf .. Backcountry of Algonquin Park Leave No Trace Outdoor Skills and Ethics

 
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Re: Really bugged!

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November 22 2011, 7:29 AM 

IP blocks are like putting a band-aid on a gunshot wound. You might stop some of the blood, but the rest will get through. There are many ways. By the time you finish blocking IPs for this one guy, your other users will no longer be able to post, but he still will.

Why do people see setting up their security as a "last resort" instead of the necessity it is?




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(Premier Login bob2aa)
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Hi Barry

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November 22 2011, 2:48 PM 

I just took a look at your forum. You have way too many members to set up two groups.

I noticed your comments on your forum about the trouble you are having.
My suggestion is to add regular moderators to your forum. You obviously have used a moderator in the past. Add a couple of people you know and trust to be full-time moderators.They must be people who visit your forum several times a day. Give them access control to Edit/Delete and instructions to eliminate a troll's post as soon as it appears.

Suggest you post something like the statement below, when you introduce your new moderators:

Forum pests /trouble makers are called "Trolls". Unfortunately,we occasionally have trolls.

Trolls get their "kicks' from seeing responses to their posts. Trolls don't care whether the responses are negative or positive. The more people response to trolls,the more trolls are encouraged to continue.

From now on,all posts by trolls will be immediately deleted my myself or one of our new moderators. Also, all responses to a troll's message (or name) will be deleted.Please, completely ignore the troll.

If at some future time the troll decides to post in an acceptable manner,we will consider allowing him/her to begin posting again.

Your cooperation is appreciated.Thank you.

Barry,I dealt with a serious troll problem earlier this year. The troll was posting many dozens of proxy-aided taunting messages a day.The whole forum became feed-up with the troll. It got so bad that I "Deputized" 20 forum members to be moderators,and give them instructions to immediately delete any post by the troll. Eventually, he gave up,apologized and asked for permission to begin posting again. After discussing the situation with my main moderator,we allowed him back in our forum I then removed the moderator privileges of the deputies.After all that,I now have groups set up,just in case he goes rogue again.






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Re: Hi Barry

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November 22 2011, 9:01 PM 

I disagree. I am a moderator on a forum about motorcycles that has hundreds of members, at least. It took awhile, but the forum owner added every member to a group able to post. All other users are read only, aside from the moderators.


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(Premier Login bob2aa)
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OK

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November 23 2011, 7:19 AM 

Hi Ripper,

OK, disagree happy.gif I'm not messing with any motorcycle dude,even though I own a Harley happy.gif

He could set the groups,it just might take him several hours.


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Re: OK

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November 25 2011, 8:41 AM 

Well, I never said it was easy...

The problem is people ignore security until it's too late. It's just like putting an alarm in your car AFTER they stole your stereo, or getting a dog (or a gun) AFTER they broke into your house, instead of doing it ahead of time when it would have mattered. It's an afterthought until it's too much work to fix.




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Mamie J. Mitchell
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Possible Solution

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May 22 2014, 8:47 AM 

You can also block Range of IP address used by hidemyip and common ports used by proxy servers like: 80 , 8080 etc.

 
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Re: Possible Solution

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May 22 2014, 12:58 PM 

Blocking IP addresses is a complete waste of time.

 
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