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lets talk trigger characteristics

January 10 2017 at 12:01 AM
L.Pirrone  (Login LPIRRONE)
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some like a definite 2nd stage and some like a rolling trigger that surprises them. what do you like. I seem to shoot better with a very light or even rolling second stage, a total surprise. It seems to keep me from flinching. The trigger characteristic i like for offhand is different than what i like for seated. For offhand I like to feel the wall and then squeeze through it while my cross hair figure 8's through the kill zone. for seated I like to be surprised. Of course I can only have one characteristic during a match so have been choosing a rolling trigger.

 
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Ron Robinson
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My preferences

January 10 2017, 12:15 PM 

I like the lightest possible, medium-length first stage, and just heavier-enough second stage to insure against inadvertent or premature discharge (no incontinence or love jokes, please), and an extremely CRISP trigger break. So my ideal is a 1-2 ounce first stage with a crisp 3-5 ounce second stage.

Just FWIW, I've encountered more than one multi-adjustable two-stage trigger that wouldn't adjust to a good two-stage action but could be adjusted to a plenty-good (much better) single-stage let-off. Also, I much prefer a CRISP trigger-break to a LIGHT trigger break. Can't live with a trigger that has creep before let-off; not to be confused with the rolling let-off you describe, LP.

Matter of fact I couldn't achieve a good two-stage trigger on my Tau 7 pistol, so (at the time) adjusted it to a light 'rolling-over-the-top' single-stage let-off possibly like you're describing. Worked well enough for offhand that I captured a Texas state champion silhouette title with it adjusted that way. The Tau 7 was the only .22 caliber or Co2 pistol in the field of 22 Iron Sight shooters.

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By the way, per the photo above, in my opinion championship-event first-place trophies should read "Champion' rather than "First Place".



    
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FPoole
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I need to know

January 10 2017, 8:20 PM 

I have to know exactly where the let off is. On my TX's I use a short to medium first stage and a very light second. If my trigger surprises me, I'll miss. A couple of my pcp friends are surprised at how light the TX will go and still be safe. They both shoot RAW guns and had me do the bump test after they tried my trigger. It passed with flying colors, which is what makes the 2 stage trigger so safe.

 
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L.Pirrone
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I was watching the military channel

January 11 2017, 9:03 AM 

Navy Seal snipers have their triggers set for "surprise release". Of course it is person preference.

 
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Hector Medina
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Except for windy days

January 11 2017, 9:14 AM 

when YOU need to DECIDE WHEN to release the shot, a "rolling" trigger is definitely a good choice/possibility for some shooting disciplines.

But IF you really like the rolling trigger, you should go back to the OEM trigger in the Walther and adjust it so. That is the way it was designed and built, that is why it has a roller instead of a screw where the "second stage" should be.

You would probably be better off going to a single stage version of the "rolling" trigger and address the weight issue by changing springs. Unless you have small hands and like to put your thumb over the pistol grip hump, you should not mind the long initial pull.

Personally, I have my T-06's adjusted so that if the squeeze is a little bit faster than the slow, normal, squeeze, it will be a "rolling" trigger with no second stage wall but; with a slow, careful, squeeze; I feel the second stage and then DECIDE when to release the shot as conditions match what I am allowing for.

More than triggers, it is a question of how YOU shoot.

JMHO






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L.Pirrone
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This is how mine is working

January 12 2017, 11:35 AM 

"Personally, I have my T-06's adjusted so that if the squeeze is a little bit faster than the slow, normal, squeeze, it will be a "rolling" trigger with no second stage wall but; with a slow, careful, squeeze; I feel the second stage and then DECIDE when to release the shot as conditions match what I am allowing for."

working well. I am practicing my offhand in my garage with it since it is raining several days here. THanks for the feedback.


    
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