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To Terrie

by Watcher (no login)

Terrie I was to see the angio today and they said that in the past I have probably had a heart attack. Muscle is not working but the rest of my heart is compensating for it. They scheduled an angio procedure for Friday morning (only two days! ARGH!). Hope everyting goes ok, but I likely will have to be in the H for a few days after.

I just wanted you to know. I expect to be back, sometimes stuff goes wrong though so just a heads up.

A long time ago I used to call you. I have always found you to be a caring person. You are the only one left who might care if something happened. Just as a silly precaution I am leaving my hubby a list of people who might want to know if something happens. But it won't! Right? Heh.

Posted on Jul 14, 2004, 10:40 AM
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im not terrie but

by katy (no login)

i hope it went well and you are ok.

Posted on Jul 18, 2004, 4:14 AM
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:o)

by Watcher (no login)

It did. It went well and I am recouping now.

Thanks for the post, support is very helpful.

Posted on Jul 18, 2004, 1:45 PM
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by (Login HealingWymn)
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I'm so so glad it went well and you are recouperating. Yes, I would care very much if anything happened. Thank you so much for the update.

Thinking of you,
Terrie

Posted on Jul 21, 2004, 9:55 PM
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It was weird

by Watcher (no login)

Nothing about this has been usual and I have had to deal with a few things in the aftermath but all in all things are going well. The best part is that once they got in there and figured out why the heart muscle was weak they were able to fix it (blockage in an unconventional place now stented) and the muscle will likely recover fully.

The biggest problem I have is that I feel TOO good and its hard to keep quiet for the required 3 weeks so I had a prob with the insertion site and wound up in the ER to have it checked. Did an ultrasound and found no blood clot, just a pissed off lumph node. LOL Only I could come up with that one.

I have already passed one week and hope that my mistake of running around too much will not elongate the time I need to be still. Other than that all is pretty much well and good.

I wonder what you are doing lately and watch for updates and you seem pretty busy but haven't said.... Common! Spill!

Posted on Jul 24, 2004, 4:01 AM
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Hey Watcher

by (Login HealingWymn)
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I'm so glad that the surgery went well and has corrected the problem. I know it can be hard to take it easy, especially when you are feeling so much better, but you will be able to become active again soon enough as long as you allow yourself to recover.

Yes, I'm been busy, but not in any ultra-exciting way. I work my usual 40 hours per week. We had a bit of an environmental problem in my workplace that is being investigated. About 12 of us went to the minor med for symptoms of eye irritation/burning, headache, and some also with sinus, nasal, and throat irritation and/or rash. Personally, I suspect black mold. The majority of the problem is in the basement, which is carpeted, and which flood during every heavy rain. We have been temporarily relocated to upstairs, but that didn't help me, so yesterday they relocated me into another building (which makes it awfully hard for me to do my job as a case manager).

We got a new dog the other week...an Australian Sheepdog. He is burgandy and white and very well-behaved. I'm not a dog person, but he met all of my requirements for a dog in my home so I let my partner get him.

We are considering moving to another state, but so far no jobs have opened up there. We will see if anything does. We are in no hurry, but would like to get out of the big city into a smaller town and more rural environment, but with a liberal attitude.

I'm going to be having company come visit me in August, and am really looking forward to that. After that I am going to Colorado for a week in September for a familiy vacation with my parents and brother and sister-in-law.

So that's my life......

Love,
Terrie

Posted on Jul 29, 2004, 7:26 AM
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Hi

by Terry (no login)

Hi Terrie,

Hope all is well with you. I see the boards are pretty quiet. I know I haven't been around for quite some time but as always you are in my thoughts.

Much love
Terry

Watcher,
Hi, I saw in your posts that the 14 July you were having some tests. I hope all has gone ok. I know it is awful to have health worries! What goes on in my head is enough without the body packing up as well!!! Take care and treat yourself with kindness.

Terry



Posted on Jul 14, 2004, 9:17 AM
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hi back

by sandra (no login)

how are you? i miss yu .
hope yur summer is gud.
yu go to the beach?
sandra

Posted on Jul 16, 2004, 10:11 PM
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Hi Terry

by (Login HealingWymn)
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It's great to see you! How have you been? And how is Lily? I miss talking to you.

Love and big hugs,
Terrie

Posted on Jul 21, 2004, 9:47 PM
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Trouble

by Watcher (no login)

I am having heart problems and am undergoing tests right now. The one today found a problem so its time for an angiogram. I am a little freaked out and would appreciate any positive energy sent my way. Thanks

It doesn't look too serious, but a posible blockage. I have not had an "event" so no damage but dread the procedure of angio and the posible need for a stent. I am sure I will be fine. Panic is the biggest hurdle right now.

Posted on Jun 23, 2004, 10:04 PM
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Watcher

by (Login HealingWymn)
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I'm keeping you in my thoughts and am hoping all will be well. Please keep me posted.

Caringly,
Terrie

Posted on Jun 30, 2004, 7:49 AM
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appt

by Watcher (no login)

I have an appointment to see the cardio on the 14th and they will schedule the angio then. I wish they just would have done it cause its hard to wait, anticipation and all that. But I guess if they aren't in such a hurry then it means it can't be too urgent. I guess you can look at it either way. Still hanging in there.

Posted on Jul 6, 2004, 11:39 AM
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Watcher

by (Login HealingWymn)
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I'm glad they are doing the tests to find out what is wrong. Please continue to keep me posted. I'm keeping you in my thoughts.

Terrie

Posted on Jul 10, 2004, 1:36 PM
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Thanks Terrie

by Watcher (no login)

Its dumb because I am doing all this hard work that I am afraid they won't let me do after. I think it will be ok

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help

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my name is laura or that's what i call myself most of the time. i don't know what to say i'm confused. something tells me to just write so i will. i'm really lost right now kind of like being in a tunnel and watching everything go by and it scares me. i've been in therapy for a long long time now. i'm 33 years old. i've been abused and that makes me angry but not time for my angry feelings now because they might blow you a way and i'd really like you to stay now. i have a good therapist, she believes in me when i don't. she believes i have a dissociative disorder. help! i need a friend who understands this. la la la la la, laurie is singing don't she have a pretty voice? she is pretty much tagging at me all the time now. i don't know why, i keep pushing her away and that makes her angry. let me tell you right now that i hate sex and i don't understand right now. my days lately are filled with high anxiety and panic. d.i.d. can anyone help? my e-mail is lau6w@aol.com
laura

Posted on Jun 13, 2004, 7:16 AM
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Hi Laura

by (Login HealingWymn)
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Welcome to Healing Our Lives. I imagine it would be pretty scary feeling kinda like you're in a tunnel watching things go by you. I'm really glad you have a therapist who believes in you...that is important. And as for the anger...that is pretty normal to feel when trying to deal with havng been abused. And yes, it can get a little overwhelming at times...and sometimes even for quite a while. But you are not alone...there are many people who have been abuse and many people with disssociative disorders, and hopefully you will meet some here (sorry the boards are kinda quiet sometimes, but the more people like you start to post the more we can get some talking going again). By the way, it's ok to hate sex...for the most part I do too. You say laurie tags around with you...do you and she get alone? She does have a lovely singing voice. Please feel free to write any time.

Terrie

Posted on Jun 13, 2004, 8:00 PM
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once upon a time

by im twinkle (no login)

there was a little girl called twinkle, thats me, because it says title and thats for a story so i think i have to write a story about me. but i dont really know what to say . im a good girl and im pink and i dont know how i got here really .i dont live with my mummy no mores because she left me but i do have a new mummy and i like my new mummy and i going to go on a plane and see my new mummy in august and im going to see my new mummys tummy. i saw my new mummy on the televison she was sat in her house i seen mummys house its pink.what is childhood abuse i dont no what that is and who are all the peoples names here i dont know any of them.i might know katy and i might no jeni because i know a jeni and she talks funny too so it might be the same jeni

Posted on Jun 10, 2004, 4:57 AM
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oh

by im twinkle (no login)

and im four years old and i got long hair and i got blue eyes because my new mummy told me they were blue because i dont know my colours but i do no my letters and i can write long words and read long words and i can count to six because my new mummy teach me how to do that because i only knowed how to count to three before and i found a picture of my old mummy on the televison but im not alowed to look at it no more the lady telled me that and i have to do what the lady tells me to do then i will still be pink i think i say alot of things now so i should not say anymore for now
bye bye

Posted on Jun 10, 2004, 5:04 AM
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hihi

by bethie (from nikki's people) (no login)

hihi twinkle i bes bethie an i wana bes yor fren if u wana. i not no how old i bes. sumtimes 3 an sumtimes bigr. pink bes my favirt kolr


Posted on Jun 10, 2004, 9:33 AM
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hello

by im twinkle (no login)

hello i think it good you like pink it be a very pretty colour and it makes you a good girl i only had one friend before and i think i like to be your friend now what can we do i think we can play do you like to sing songs i sing lots of songs i learn a new song i can sing it for you if you like me to

Posted on Jun 14, 2004, 2:25 PM
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**waves**

by Katy (no login)

just waving at everyone whos reading and maybe not posting :)hope yous all ok

Posted on Jun 10, 2004, 4:21 AM
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lisa ands davey

by jeni (no login)

i just thinkings ifs yous bes oks

Posted on May 29, 2004, 9:25 AM
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tu jen

by lisa (no login)

sori i no been heer lots. the puter was broke an need repair.
we no have the puter for a veri veri lon time

how yu doin? yu diing ok?
i bee thinkin of yu too lots

lisa

Posted on Jun 4, 2004, 6:03 PM
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hola

by jeni (no login)

its not goods when the computers breaks i am happys that it is workings agains i am doing goods and sendings you some sunshine smiles

Posted on Jun 9, 2004, 5:58 AM
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quiet

by katy (no login)

its very quiet we just wondering where everyones gone to

Posted on May 15, 2004, 4:57 AM
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re: quiet

by (Login HealingWymn)
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Am wondering the same.

Terrie

Posted on May 21, 2004, 7:42 AM
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Re: re: quiet

by Nikki (no login)

we're still here...

Posted on May 22, 2004, 3:33 AM
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Well

by Wacher (no login)

I just watch mostly. But I still check.

Posted on May 23, 2004, 12:49 AM
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Re: re: quiet

by CJ (no login)

You think maybe because it takes day(s) to get any sort of response or acknowledgement? This just aint a supportive place anymore.

Posted on May 25, 2004, 9:52 PM
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well

by katy (no login)

we guess that it was slower etc because it had to go moderated for a while cos someone was being mean, but hey its not moderated now so maybe it can pick up again

Posted on May 26, 2004, 12:15 PM
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Hi to everyone

by terry (no login)

Just popping in to say hi! Life here is as always, busy, however I am having a month off work after Easter....can't wait!!

Terrie, thanks for talking to my girls the other week, you helped Mary so very much. I appreciate your care so very much, sometimes there is just not enough of "me" to go around.

much love

Terry

Posted on Mar 25, 2004, 8:11 AM
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Hi Terry!

by (Login HealingWymn)
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It's so good to see you! How exciting that you will be having a month off work. Yipee!

I'm so glad I was able to help Mary. She and all your girls (and you) are so precious.

Love you lots,
Terrie

Posted on Mar 27, 2004, 4:21 PM
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sorry to post again

by Nikki (no login)

Sorry, I know we're posting alot lately - don't mean to over-use the forum or anything.

We're feeling really bad lately and nothing seems to help. Feel so fragile like we'll shatter into a zillion tiny pieces and no one will be able to put us back together again.

What we really want is for someone to come and take us away to some place where everything is safe - where no one will look at us because of our ugliness and our disfigured body, where no one will laugh at what we say, and they won't care if we don't say anything at all. Is there a place like that somewhere on earth? We used to have somewhere safe inside, but it's just not safe anymore.

Just feel like there's nowhere that we fit in. Nowhere where the noise in our head is quiet. Nowhere to feel 'normal' and safe.

Feel so terribly alone.

Posted on Mar 15, 2004, 7:44 AM
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Nikki

by (Login HealingWymn)
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Sweetie, this forum is here so that you CAN use it...as much as you want or need to. No need to apologize for that!

I'm so sorry you are feelign so unsafe and unaccepted. I want you to know that here, you are loved and cared about no matter what you look like; that no one will laugh at what you say; that you can even say nothing at all and be accepted just as you are. You DO fit in here Nikki....I promise....

Terrie

Posted on Mar 15, 2004, 8:01 PM
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thank you so much terrie

by Nikki (no login)

thank you ever so much Terrie. you are truly wonderful and so very inspirational. you do a wonderful job here on this forum and it means so much.

Posted on Mar 15, 2004, 8:14 PM
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we are very sorry

by Poppet (from Nikki's people) (no login)

Terrie did we make everyone go away?
Lots of people have not written here in a very long time and we are so very sorry that we scared them away. We honestly didn't mean to. We are not doing good at all right now but we didn't want to make the people stop writing.
We are so ashamed.


Posted on Mar 10, 2004, 5:29 AM
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Hi Poppet...

by Kathie (no login)

First, let me introduce myself. I'm Kathie and I'm part of Shellie's system, Shellie being the name most familiar here because she helps Terrie monitor the boards when Terrie is away.
Poppet, it is absolutely NOT your/your system's fault that there has been a lull in posting here. Personally, I believe that the person who was posing as Terrie and making the rude comments, forcing Terrie to change the boards to moderated status.. really had an affect on people. I also know that for some folks, having to have their posts read *before* they get posted intimidates them....
I hope I've helped, just a little....please let me assure you that you havent scared anyone away. People are still reading and I think in my heart, they are waiting for this site to become a safe haven again.

Take good care,
Kathie

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thank you kathie

by Poppet (no login)

Thank you ever so much Kathie. You have helped alot. We thought it was something we did or said. Thank you for writing to us. It means alot.

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Poppet

by (Login HealingWymn)
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Hi there. I like your name!

Poppet, it is not any of y'all's fault that it is so quiet here. The board goes through busy and quiet times. I'm sorry you are not doing well right now, and I want you to know that I care about you. Please don't stop writing.....I care.

Terrie

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Terrie

by Watcher (no login)

Something suddenly came up and it sorta fixed the bad thing. I just wanted you to know that.

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illusion poam

by nat (no login)

illusion


illusion wat it be?

de luv of mi mom,iz illusion?
de luv of mi dad, iz illusion ?
de luv of a frind, iz illusion?
de luv of mi sistr,iz illusion?
de luv of mi brodr,iz illusion?

de food on tabl,iz it fo me or illusion?
de gif in korner,is fo me or iz illusion?
de hugz wuz for me or iz illusion?
de smil wuz for me or iz illusion?

mi lif ,iz illusion?
mi safty, iz illusion?
bruises,are illusion?
pain iz illusion?

illusion wat it be??

mom luv be illusion,
luv wuz in dweemz
dad luv be illusion
frind luv ,,,,wat b a frind??

sistr n brodr luv be illusion,dem no takd tu me
food on tabl n gif be illusion.I no deserv tose tings
hugz,smilz,be illusion. tose ar for mi sist n brodr

livin a life of pain,
sufwrin,bruis,hurt, iz reel....iz mi reeliti.
mi reeliti wuz no saf n to keep aliv.
dat wuz no illusion.

illusion iz a good dweem dat nevr kum for me.


nat 4-5


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nat

by (Login HealingWymn)
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Thank you for sharing your very insightful poem with us. I am always impressed with your talent.

Love you lots,
Terrie

Posted on Feb 25, 2004, 10:30 PM
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wow nat!

by Nikki (of NIkki's people) (no login)

that poem is very very good!
you are very clever!
thank you for sharing it with us.

Love,
Nikki (and Alyssa)

Posted on Feb 26, 2004, 2:47 AM
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hi

by Nikki's people (no login)

Hi Terrie and everyone.

We just wanted to say hello and we hope you're all doing ok.

We're not doing so good really, that's why we haven't been here.

Love you all.

Love,
Nikki's people

Posted on Feb 20, 2004, 1:04 AM
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Hi there

by (Login HealingWymn)
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I'm so glad to see you again. I've missed talking to you. I've been doing ok....and you?

Terrie

Posted on Feb 21, 2004, 12:08 PM
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thank you terrie

by Nikki (no login)

We've missed talking to you too.

We're not doing so well. Biggest problem is the self harm anad we're so scared we'll get caught and the mother will freak totally. Not sure what to do. We're off all our meds completely now and haven't got a psychiatrist anymore.

Maybe this is just how it's always meant to be?

Thank you for still being here.

Love,
Nikki


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Nikki

by (Login HealingWymn)
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I'm so sorry you are having such a rough time. It is not meant to stay difficult, I hope that even without a psychiatrist you will be able to find healing, because you deserve to heal and find happiness. I care.

Love,
Terrie

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Terrie

by Watcher (no login)

I don't think I can ask you about my previous post, sorry to bother you with it.

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Terrie?

by Watcher (no login)

Are you a therapist? Can I speak to you of ethics? Can I email?

Posted on Feb 7, 2004, 8:39 PM
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Watcher

by (Login HealingWymn)
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Watcher,
Technically I am not a therapist, although that is what I studied to be and nearly got my Master's. I do work in the mental health field as a case manager. So you are more than welcome to privately e-mail me and ask me whatever you want, about ethics or anything, and I will answer to the best of my ability. I look forward to hearing from you.

Terrie

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Yikes Terrie

by Watcher (no login)

We had a fire in our house. We got it put out but there is a lot of smoke damage. All the people and pets are ok but it was plenty scary.

One kid has 2nd and 3rd degree burns on both arms and hands. His hair was all melted together on one side of his head.

I got burned a bit on my hands because I put the fire out myself. The smoke was so toxic that we were driven outside, he in bare feet and me in my t shirt and panties. It was -23 that morning, -44 windchill. We went quickly in and out breathing, then rushing in to open windows or grab a pet or some clothing. We had to stay out for a few hours for the air to clear.

I am glad we still have our house. There is a lot of work to be done to clean it up. We had breathing problems for a couple days after but are ok now. All the plants died. I am glad not everyone was home when it happened, just two people.

I feel lucky, but kinda spooked.

Posted on Feb 1, 2004, 9:38 PM
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Oh my!

by (Login HealingWymn)
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Watcher, I'm so glad you both got out safe with relatively minor injuries, but I'm so sorry that you had such a fright and now have so much work to do to get things backto normal again. I think yu are brave to have put the fire out, and am sure that is probably what actually saved the house. I think some new plants would liven the place back up and help freshen the air again (it is plants that do that, after all). Is there anything you need or anything I can do?

Terrie

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Actually

by Watcher (no login)

I am in a terrible way. I don't know what to do and haven't felt this terrible for a long time. It had nothing to do with the fire, it si far worse than that. I don't know what to do.

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Watcher

by (Login HealingWymn)
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I'm so sorry you are not feeling well. Is there anything I can do to help? I'm here for you, and I care.

Terrie

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Guess not

by Watcher (no login)

Its hard for me to handle things sometimes, thats all.

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silenc...poam

by nat (no login)

..........silense..........

by Nat ,5 ys

Shuuuttt....lissen....

terz no noiz
terz no voiz
terz no skweem
terz no cwi
terz no sobin

Iz dadi hom?
iz momi hom?
wer mi sitr an broder?
iz dem frins gon?

Shuuut .....iz kalm

i am no alone god iz wiff mee
i am not skar
i am not alone
mi teddy ber in mi armz


shuuut......god iz wisprin his luv..

silense iz no fwitning


by Nat



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Oh wow....

by (Login HealingWymn)
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Nat,
Your poem is so wonderful...I love it! Thank you so much for sharing it, and I'm so glad to hear from you. I've missed you.

Love,
Terrie

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sank u

by nat (no login)

i gwad u lik it
i lik ritd poam


i wuv u teri
nat

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you're welcome

by (Login HealingWymn)
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I love you too nat!

Love,
Terrie

Posted on Feb 2, 2004, 8:08 PM
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Hi Terrie

by Terry (no login)

How is your exhaustion, mine seems to be on the improve, I even went to the gym today and I haven't been for two weeks!

Much love

Terry

Posted on Jan 26, 2004, 7:55 PM
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Terry

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I think mine is improving some too. I actually woke up early today.

I think once we get all our money issues taken care of (when Shelia is bringing in enough income to pay what I can't) then things will be less stressful and then I will be less exhausted, because I think stress wears me out. LOL.

I sure love you,
Terrie

Posted on Jan 29, 2004, 7:32 AM
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by paule (no login)

I miss yu terrie
yu doing ok?
is freezing here sooo much....
cant get warmed up.
thinking of making hot cocoa
after i pik up my daughter from camp...
let me know how yur doing....
say hi to sheila

paule

Posted on Jan 25, 2004, 1:50 PM
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Hi Paule

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I'm doing ok. I miss you too. So sorry it is so cold. I can relate, cuz I used to live in cold winters when I was growing up. It's awful. Hope we can talk soon.

Love you lots,
Terrie

Posted on Jan 26, 2004, 7:36 AM
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terrie

by paule (no login)

i will make time...wen i do get 10 mins to MYSELF......lol....to call you...
i miss yu lot...just to say hi...
by for now
taking care of yu 2

paule


Posted on Jan 26, 2004, 9:57 PM
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Paule

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I will look forward to talking to you.

Love you so much,
Terrie

Posted on Jan 29, 2004, 7:29 AM
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Hi Paule

by Terry (no login)

How are you??? I often think of you and I sailing off to sunnier places. I saw on the news how cold it has been in the States, I imagine it is as tiresome as the heat we get.

Say hi to your girls for me.

Terry

Posted on Jan 26, 2004, 7:53 PM
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hi terry

by paule (no login)

yes is been very cold...
i live in canada...is very cold and snowee here....
suppose to snow again tomorw...

how yu doing? you kids?
my kids are groing tooooo fast..

take care..thininkg of you often

paule

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