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by Tammy (no login)

good morning everyone. I don't know where to start or what to say...but I am hoping my Therapist calls me back soon coz I think I'm falling apart........inside

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Due to what my father did to me while growing up, about 2 years ago I decided it was jusy easier to say to people he's dead ( to me he was) made it easier to get through certain times.
Well the night before last my sis calls me and says, while my mom is checking out her Soc.Sec. from my father the woman tells her she won't be reciving that but she will be recieving widows pesion. He died for real this January 31st. My mom and sisters and the rest of her family fell apart coz this was the first they heard about it. I was calm cool and colected...it's what I thought I'd been waiting for....
then I woke up yesterday and spent the entire day crying while remembering all the good times and stuff, mad at myself for reacting that way but didn't really know how to act. I thought a good night sleep would help.... not hardly, couple glasses of wine and a few sleeping pills ( prescribed for me ) and I wake up still in turmoil, still trying to defend my actions to myself. And the worse part is all those yeard I waited for an aplogy and explanation ie: it was the alchohol...that never came...now never will. And his second wife had him cremated before His side of the family even knew he was dead. So I can't even sit by a grave and talk till I find answers.

what a mess I am huh?
Tammy in tears




Posted on Aug 3, 2000, 11:33 AM
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{{{{{{{{{{{{{Tammy}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

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I'm so sorry you're still hurting. I know it's hard. It's hard to hear about something like this, no matter what was in the past...things like this have a profound effect on emotions. I do hope your t calls soon so you can process this. Please know that I'm here to talk, also. I love you!

Safe hugs,
Terrie

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hi Tammy

by Margaret (no login)

I can only imagine the range of emotions you're going through right now. I hope your T called back. Please try to be gentle with yourself.
Take care,
Margaret

Posted on Aug 3, 2000, 9:23 PM
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No, you're not a mess

by Tammy (no login)

You are a very hurt daughter. Take care.

Terry

Posted on Aug 3, 2000, 10:40 PM
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Thank you Ladies for your support and caring :-) I am feeling a little better today. Hugs,

by Tammy & Camelot (no login)

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Posted on Aug 4, 2000, 10:08 AM
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Is there something in the air ....

by Terry (no login)

Everyone seems to be touched by the brush of misery this week. Im so sorry to hear that others are feeling as yuk as I do.

Im still hanging in there waiting, waiting to hear from the new T that Im going to be seeing. I truly hope I get an appt soon. Im so sick of myself and these yuk feelings and thoughts.

Went and had my hair done today, trying to spruce up this ol gal!! Im working on the "if it looks ok on the outside it might be ok on the inside" you know --- looks like a duck, walks like a duck must be a duck!!

Quack quack

Terry



Posted on Aug 2, 2000, 11:48 PM
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To my favorite duck!

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hehe...I'm so glad you got your hair done. I hope that it does help you feel better, at least a little bit. I need to get mine done so bad. My perm is just about grown out and my hair is looking kinda scraggly. LOL. I hope you will let us know when you get your appointment, and how that goes. I will be keeping you in my thoughts and wishing you the best. Keep in touch! You matter to me.

Love,
Terrie

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No grey is nice!!

by Terry (no login)

Im soooooo screwed up at the moment now Im feeling guilty for spending the money on getting my hair done!!!!!

Going back to work tonight. Feel a bit anxious about it but can't hide forever

Today we are going to blow bubbles, wont cost anything but makes us , some of us, giggle and thats good.

Cheers

Terry

Posted on Aug 3, 2000, 10:46 PM
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I feel exactly the same

by Kira (no login)

Hi Terry, I can't tell you how much your message sounds like I could have written it today. I had my last session with my T today. I'm so, so, sooooo sad right now. Beyond words really. I also had my hair cut today. Same thing. I thought if I look good noone will know how deep my sadness and craziness is right now. I hope your new T calls you soon and is someone you like. I also hope you are feeling better soon. Take care, Kira

Posted on Aug 3, 2000, 8:49 PM
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I know your saddness

by Terry (no login)

It is ingrained in my soul at the moment. Hope you can take time to join me in some bubble blowing - see message above.

With love

Terry

Posted on Aug 3, 2000, 10:50 PM
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Quack!

by Margaret (no login)

Hi Terry-
We had a Mary Kay party at a staff meeting at work today- actually put on makeup... still not quite feeling like a duck though...
It has been a rough week for everyone it seems... maybe next week will be better.
Hang in there.
Margaret

Posted on Aug 3, 2000, 9:20 PM
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Feathers are flying....

by Terry (no login)

I never even thought about makeup! Havent worn any for so long. Ill have to dig out the ol lippys and see what I can do I know a certain little that will love it. Oh and what about nail polish, red toes on webbed feet - what a look!!

Yeh I really hope and pray that next week will be better for all of us. Life isnt meant to be this hard - so they say.

With love
Terry





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hi Terrie

by Margaret (no login)

thanks for your support lately.


Posted on Aug 1, 2000, 9:13 PM
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Hi Margaret

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You're welcome. I'm keeping you in my thoughts and in my heart. Hope you feel better soon.

Love you,
Terrie

Posted on Aug 2, 2000, 6:17 PM
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feel better or

by Margaret (no login)

feel dead... both sound equally appealing at the moment. I just want to quit. I couldn't schedule an appointment with my T until the 11th of this month.
Margaret

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Monday, eh?

by (no login)

So sorry you can't get in to see her til then...I know it's hard. It's just a few days though, and although I'm sure the days drag for you, I do hope they don't drag too badly. Let me know if I can do anything for you.

Love you,
Terrie

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thanks

by Margaret (no login)

I'm not sure there's anything anyone can do right now but thanks.
Margaret

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hi Erin

by Margaret (no login)

just saying hi-
hope you're doing ok.
Take care
Margaret

Posted on Aug 1, 2000, 6:48 PM
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Hi Margaret

by Erin (no login)

Hey, thanks for your message. It's nice to hear from you. I'm having a really crappy week. I'm just really stressed out and having a hard time managing my anger and stress. Maybe it's because I spent last weekend visiting my parents....gee, let's hang out and make small talk with the person who raped you. Yeah, that's fun. Bad idea. I do it about three times a year, and I always think its a mistake afterwards.

Well, I hope you are having a better week than me!

Take care,
Erin

Posted on Aug 2, 2000, 11:27 AM
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hope the week is getting better

by Margaret (no login)

My words of wisdom- make it a goal to only spend time with them twice next year and once the year after that. It's incredibly stressful to spend time with those that hurt you- remember it's your choice- you don't have to. But I do the same thing- it's usually 2-3 times a year also- it sucks. Hopefully your week is getting better.
Mine's been incredibly crappy also- but trying to push past that.
Take care,
Margaret

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hi

by Erin (no login)

Yes, I always say I will visit less....two times a year seems more than enough. I am actually feeling a little better today, and it's almost the weekend (which always brings its own problems, but at least I don't have to go to work).

Hope you are okay...thanks for your message.

Take care,
Erin

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hi Kimberly

by Margaret (no login)

just saying hi-
hope you're doing alright...
any word on your friend?
Margaret

Posted on Aug 1, 2000, 6:47 PM
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hey Kira

by Margaret (no login)

just saying hi-
hope you're doing alright.
I'm struggling but surviving.
Margaret

Posted on Aug 1, 2000, 6:37 PM
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Margaret

by Kira (no login)

Hi Margaret, I'm sorry youre struggling right now. I am feeling myself starting to fall back into a dark place and it's scaring me. I'm also feeling really angry at everyone and everything. 'Just feeling scared, overwhelmed, sad, angry...but I will be alright. Thursday is my last session with my T and I don't have anyone else lined up. Anyway, I hope you can do more than survive soon. I'm thinking of you, Kira

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Thanks

by Margaret (no login)

I'm sorry you're struggling also- I know how scary it can feel. I also have been there with the angry at everyone and everything stuff too. Hasn't your T helped you to line up someone else? I don't know what it is with T's lately- they don't seem to have any semblance of responsibility. Not really sure I have any words of wisdom for you Kira- just keep taking things a day at a time and continue to be gentle with yourself and know I'll be here as best I can and if nothing else- I care.
I'm thinking of you too.
Margaret

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Margaret

by Kira (no login)

My T has given me referrals but I have not decided if I can even begin to start with someone new. I've had 4 T's in two and a half years! All ended for different reasons, I moved, one retired, etc. etc.. but this is the first person who ever really listened to me and my story. I really am having a very hard time with ending tomorrow. Anyway, are you doing any better? It doesn't sound like it. I wish I had words of wisdom or advice or even hope for you..but I'm pretty useless in that way right now. I do care though. Thankyou for your words, please take care, Kira

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hey Kira-

by Margaret (no login)

your caring is better than any words of wisdome or advice right now. Wish things were easier for you also.
Hang in there.
Be gentle...
Margaret

Posted on Aug 3, 2000, 9:09 PM
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lost

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maybe I'm lost here. I feel like I don't fit in anywhere. I can't seem to feel right anywhere. I figured I'd try here but . nothin..sorry people. I'm just feeling so invisible. I hate this life..
don't want it anymore...blah blah blah.. sure you've heard it all before. I can't seem to get this crap outta my system

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hi Lisa

by Margaret (no login)

if you're lost here- then I certainly am too. Don't push yourself so hard- you're not invisible. And Lisa? it's really hard to get this kinda stuff out of your system- but just because we've heard it before doesn't mean we're not willing to listen.
Hang in there and be gentle with yourself
Margaret

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kind of lost.. flashbacks

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I keep going on with my life ..shoving everything into the back of my head and try to do the don't worry be happy.. and it's not working.. I feel sick to my stomach with alot of the memories..I'm still embarrasses to say the stuff in therapy..I just need a good cry.. I get where I figure...ok I can go to therapy and cry..but then I won't cry in front of people. I get stupid feeling.
hmm ... Lisa thanks for writing me

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Hi Lisa

by Erin (no login)

Hey, you're not invisible. We hear you. Try to take good care of yourself right now. The feelings hurt, but they will pass. In the meantime, shout out here whenever you need a listening ear.

Take care,
Erin

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I know

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I know I'm not alone.. but yet I feel so alone. I'm tired of bringing all this stuff up to my husband all the time...but I can't help it..it bothers me so I talk about it..I keep wishing he'd leave me..it's so stupid
Lisa

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Hi Lisa

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Hi there. I'm wondering if perhaps the feeling of not fitting in is an old message that you're having a hard time changing. The reason I say that is because from my point of view, you fit in here just fine. And I see others have written you as well, so it seems like perhaps they think you fit in too. And you are definately not invisible! I hope you will continue to come back, because you are definately more than welcome!

Peace,
Terrie

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awkward

by (no login)

it's this awkward feeling..I'm not the happy go lucky..but try to be.. and it's usually when I'm having a hard time.. I had horrible flashbacks.. and keep feeling sick to my stomache.. I just feel so gross all over again/ I get where I'll feel good for a short period then discust(sp?) again. I have one problem that my therapist said he thought needed to be dealt with but I hate it and haven't gone back since. I need a good cry I know that much thanks for listening
Lisa

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TErrie I dont get it

by Cassie (no login)

She keeps sayin it will be OK but it wont its going to be awful. How come the T did this I thought she liked us well I hate her now its not fair. No one asked me what I thought I never said she could talk to that other T about us just because Terry says its ok doesnt mean I think its ok.

Im not going to let them go hjust like I stpped them before, Im real mad at all of them they are horrible and I hate them

Cassie

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hi Cassie

by Margaret (no login)

You have a right to feel angry Cassie. It's really hard when T's leave or change. I know at times I've made decisions without always consulting with my littler ones about their thoughts and feelings- I try not to do that often, but sometimes I have to. They get angry also- but the one thing we have an agreement about is talking to each other and trusting that each other does the things we do because we feel it is the best decision at the time based on the information we have. I'm not saying you shouldn't be angry- but talk to Terry and try to be patient- sometimes help is disquised as a disaster. I believe things happen for a reason Cassie- sometimes we don't know the reason- but we have to trust the process.
I don't know if I'm making any sense or not Cassie-I just know that change is really really hard for everyone, I hope you hang in there and try not to make things more difficult than they are- I know you care about Terry and I'm pretty sure she cares about you as well.
Hang in there Cassie. You're in my thoughts.
Margaret

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Cassie

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I can sure understand why you are feeling so angry...it's hard not to have a say-so, isn't it? But you know what? I do think that Terry needs to be able to talk to someone. How about if you get to know the new t a bit and see if she feels safe to you. You can do that by either talking to her or by just watching some from inside. I know it's hard switching t's, but there really isn't any point in making it any harder than it already is. And you don't know it's going to be awful...you are assuming that it will....why don't you give it a chance and see how it is? And let Terry decide what's gonna be best for her in the circumstances.....after all, she IS an adult. I'm here if you want to talk about it, ok?

Peace,
Terrie

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Hello, I just got here!

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I have been having some physical health problems over the last 1-2 months and just got the ability back to follow the link from Camelot Crew's site. The biggest problem that we had over that time was that one and then the other thumb joint where the thumb joins to the wrist went out and we had to wear wrist splints on the hand that was currently having the problem. We hope that we are welcome here.

Pegasus of Pegasus' Minions

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Pegaus!

by (no login)

Of course you are welcome here! I don't think we've actually talked before, but I do recognize your name and am glad to meet you! Sounds like those thumb joints have been a real problem. I hope they are feeling better now, as I know such problems would seriously impair typing as well as make many other tasks difficult. (I've had thumb problems myself in the past). In any case, I'm glad you are here and I hope to get to know you!

Peace,
Terrie

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hi Pegasus

by Margaret (no login)

Sorry you've been having physical health problems- hope you're feeling better. I'm glad you're here- the more the merrier.
Glad to meet you.
Margaret

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Just dropping by...

by Terry (no login)

Just thought I'd let you know how things are going. Saw my T on Fri she was very kind and as lovely as always, she will stick with me until the other service is up and running for me, thank goodness.

They have been much slower taking me onboard than my T thought they would be. "They" being a govt run psychiatric service, they are meant to have psychiatrists, psychologists, social workers, mental health nurses etc as a team.

I feel that noone knows what to do with me though. On Friday I agreed with my T that I nedded to go into hospital because Im still feeling so yuk. She sent me then to see my local Dr (whom she phoned) to get the refferal to go into the hospital. When I get to the Dr, she has phoned to Psych team they and she have decided that NO I don't need to go into hospital. They don't think it is anymore advantageous than being at home with my husband! What about that poor husband though and what about me. Other than my T noone is asking how I am feeling, it seems that unless you are waving a gun at your own head no one cares and then it will be too late.

I know something has to happen but I don't know what it is. I just dont know what to do. So what Ive done is pull up the remains of my limited reserves and am doing as much as I can to maintain the normalicy of my life. The sad thing is I feel far from "Normal" inside.

Sorry to be going on so much but I know you good people will listen

love

Terry

Posted on Jul 29, 2000, 9:19 PM
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Hi Terry

by Margaret (no login)

I'm glad at least your T is going to stick with you through a transition. Hopefully things will get settled soon. It seems that insurance companies make decisions based on dollar signs instead of people's best interest. Do you live in the states? What area- don't feel like you have to answer... just wondering if anyone might have some resources for you.
Hang in there Terry.
Margaret

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Hi Margaret

by Terry (no login)

Things seem to take so long don't they when you feel in the bottom of that deep dark pit. My T rang me late yesterday to tell me that the "new" team are taking me on, she had spoken to the clinical psych and they would be in touch soon.

Hope its today, the waiting is unbearable. Im sure you know what its like when you know you have to do something you dont want to do. So for me the sooner it happens the better! Then I can stop worrying about it.

I live in Western Australia and I know our health care system is really different from yours in the States but regardless they seem too interested in the process rather than the person. Anyway Im hanging in there and just getting through one day ata time.

Take care
Terry

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waiting is hard

by Margaret (no login)

Try to be patient and gentle with yourself. Know that change is hard for everyone- but things happen for a reason usually. Hang in there.
Margaret

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thankyou friend

by Terry (no login)

Im trying. Ive been doing something each day just for me. Its unbelievable how hard that can be but I think I need to be much kinder to myself than I usually am, so Im trying!!!!

Im sorry to hear that your life is pretty rough at the moment to. Take care

Terry

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I'm glad

by Margaret (no login)

you're doing something nice for yourself- you deserve that.
I'll be ok...
Margaret

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Hi Terry

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I'm so glad to hear from you!!! It must feel awful to have to wait for something to happen to help you...but I am pleased that your t has chosen to stick with you until something else is in place. I hope you know that you and little one are in my heart and that I am here for you anytime. You are welcome to e-mail me as well if you would like. By the way, I got the journal you sent....have not had a chance to read it all yet (just picked it up today), but I thank you very much for sending it and I look forward to reading it all. If there is anything at all that I can do, just ask. I'm here for you, and I care.

Love and safe gentle hugs,
Terrie

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thanks

by Terry (no login)

I feel that my heart is breaking the saddnes is so huge and I dont know how to make it diminish
I know something has to change I just dont know what it is Im supposed to do to make things better.

Im so terribly afraid of having to speak with someone else about all that I feel and all that I am. It all feels so very difficult.

I constantly ask myself "why", I dont believe that I am a bad person a bad wife or mother but what is it about me that sems to attract this misery, this ... I dont even know the words to express my feelings. Im so overwhelmed by the depression and its inherent misery, when you feel that you no longer even love your children its very hard to believe that there is a purpose or reason for you being on this earth.

Forgive me. So few have any understanding of the pain I feel deep in my soul and tonight it is just flowing from me.


With love Terry

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{{{{{{{Terry}}}}}}}}}}

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Terry, I am holding you close in my heart, safely and without judgement. You are not a bad person. Even when you feel you do not love your children, it is your depression that is bringing on that feeling, and in time it will pass and you will once again feel that love. I know it is frightening to talk about things...especially things that feel so overwhelming. But please know I am here. You may write on the boards, you may e-mail me, you may snail mail me. Whichever is most comfortable, you may do if you wish. You can work through the depression and the misery...you are stronger than you think. You have survived so much...you can survivie this as well. You ARE on this earth for a reason...the reson is not to feel all the misery, but perhaps through the misery you will find the reason. In any case, your presence on this earth is a gift in my life, and I treasure it and I treasure you.

With love and gentle hugs if you want them,
Terrie

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You have touched my heart...

by Terry (no login)

I am so glad that you are here, to hear me ,to hold me. Your words bring me a peace and hope I keep forgetting exists. Thankyou for being my reminder.

Your friend
Terry

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Terry

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I'm glad you are here too. Thank you for being my friend.

Love and safe hugs,
Terrie

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when is it going to get better?

by Margaret (no login)

I really kinda would like a specific date and time. I'm so drained and everything inside just hurts. I want to write- but I just can't.
Margaret

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Margaret

by Kira (no login)

Margaret, I wish I could give you a time and date. I wish someone could give me a time and date. I wish i could take it all away. All the pain, all the sadness, everything. I wish I could take away everyone's pain here! Will it help you to say that it will get better? Because it will. It does seem like forever, but it won't be. I keep telling myself that too. Please take care of yourself, I am thinking of you, kira

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thanks Kira

by Margaret (no login)

I'm thinking of you too.

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Hi everyone

by Terry (no login)

Just wanted to say hi. Its been one of the worst weeks of my life. The depression is so incredible bad that I cant even begin to think there may be a tomorrow, just getting through today is hard enough.

My T has refered me else where also which is just devistating(can you fail therapy -I think I have!!). She says that the service she works out of can't provide the amount of support I need. The other agency were having a meeting on Wed to see if they would accept me and said they were going to phone me yesterday but they didnt. So I dont know whats happening and that makes me so scared.

Im seeing my T today for a closure meeting yuk - dont want to go, dont want to finish seeing her.

Hope you guys are having a better day

Terry

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Hang in there Terry

by Margaret (no login)

Gosh- you'd think your current T would at least stick with you until you were transitioned somewhere else- doesn't sound real responsible...
I'm sorry it's been such a rough week. I'm glad you're hanging in there. I know the unknown thing can be really hard.

As for you failing therapy... virtually impossible... however it can fail you- there's a difference.

Please take good care of yourself.
Margaret

Posted on Jul 27, 2000, 9:06 PM
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Terry

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Terry,
I'm sorry things have been so rough. I agree with Margaret-and you know you do deserve and may need
extra support-I know I did-my T was available by phone 24 hours a day-and could always fit me in when I needed and there were times when I did.
You didn't fail anything-but a good T will assess whether they can give you what you need and deserve-and I think that stinks that your T is closing with you before you are with someone else-
but that is her problem -and you deserve better than that. Hang in there and take special care,
Kimberly

Posted on Jul 27, 2000, 11:35 PM
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by Kira (no login)

Hi Terry, I'm so sorry your feeling so badly. I agree, you cannot fail therapy. It seems really unfair of your T to leave you in this way.It does seem irresponsible. My T is leaving me too although, she has to because her internship is finishing, but I'm having my last sesion with her next week, and yuk is right! I'm so afraid of her leaving me. I feel so abandoned! But you know what? You will find someone else who is maybe more what you need. Hang in there and it will get better. All the best, Kira

Posted on Jul 28, 2000, 1:51 AM
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{{{{{{{Terry}}}}}}}}

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I'm so sorry you've had such a horrible week! I wan you to know that you did NOT fail therapy....you deserve to get the support you need, and if they can't provide it, then it is ok to go where you can get it. It doens't seem right that your t is closing with you before you are with someone else, though. In any case, hang in there, because it will get better. And remember that you are not alone....we're always here, and you are welcome to e-mail me as well as post here. You're in my thoughts and my heart.

Peace,
Terrie

Posted on Jul 28, 2000, 7:32 AM
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Hi Terry

by Erin (no login)

This is just so that you know I am keeping you in thoughts and prayers. I agree with the others about your T, but you will find someone who can help.

Take care,
Erin

Posted on Jul 28, 2000, 12:01 PM
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((((((TERRY)))))

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Hi Terry, I'm Lisa just started with this section.
I can related to losing your therapist. I cried when mine opened her own practice. I felt helpless and scared. Hopefully you'll find a new one you'll feel comfortable with. I know it can feel like your just slipping into a hole. hang in there.
Lisa

Posted on Jul 29, 2000, 6:21 AM
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If any posts are missing....

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Network 54, who hosts this board, seems to have lost some posts, and I think some of them are from here. I sincerely apologize to anyone whose posts might have gotten lost. I hope everyone is doing well.

Peace,
Terrie

Posted on Jul 27, 2000, 5:48 PM
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I just can't do it anymore

by Margaret (no login)

I don't know why I'm writing- I just know I'm exhausted and drained and would be perfectly content to fall off the face of the earth right now.

Posted on Jul 26, 2000, 6:28 AM
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Hi Margaret

by Erin (no login)

I know the feeling. But don't, okay? Cause we want you to stick around.

Sometimes when I feel that tired, I try to do one small nice thing for myself. Have you ever read the story "A Small Good Thing" by Raymond Carver? It's about this couple whose son dies because he was hit by a car, and they end up in a bakery talking to this baker about it, and he gives them some bread out of the oven, and it comforts them. It's kinda like that...you need to find a small good thing that helps in the face of massive grief and rage.

Hang in there. It will get better.

Take care,
Erin

Posted on Jul 26, 2000, 11:15 AM
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thanks Erin

by Margaret (no login)

I won't- I'm not feeling like doing anything to cause my falling from the earth- don't worry. I'm trying to find the small things Erin... it just seems they're hiding right now.
Thanks for your support.
Margaret

Posted on Jul 26, 2000, 8:14 PM
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(((((((((Margaret)))))))))))

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Hi Margaret,
I hear you. You know the hardest thing for me?
Not moving ahead, not doing the work. Being still.
Have you ever heard that expression? It's ok to be right where you are at. It's ok to stop-it's ok to put things on hold. And just be for today.
For me-that is the big progress-and something i will probably always have to work on. it's ok to just say screw it for a while-and it's normal to feel that way sometimes. Why don;'t you try doing something nice for you-that makes you feel good. A hot bath, a walk in a pretty place? You deserve a break. You deserve something that makes you feel good. I hope you are feeling better soon -take special care-Kimberly

Posted on Jul 26, 2000, 11:34 AM
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thanks Kimberly

by Margaret (no login)

that being still thing.... I'm HORRIBLE at it!!!!! I'm just not use to dealing with intense feelings and I am struggling beyond belief with just siting with them.
Thanks for writing.
Margaret

Posted on Jul 26, 2000, 8:12 PM
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Margaret

by Kira (no login)

Margaret, I know how you feel, exhausted and drained. And I know what you mean when you say you would be content falling off the face of the earth. I feel that way alot. But then, sometimes you get one good day that makes it all seem ok. This will pass. That probably doesn't make you feel better though. I'm sorry your feeling so lousy. If you fell off the face of the earth I would really miss you! You need to take care of yourself in whatever way you need. Maybe that means a nap or not working today or doing something you never find the time to do. Only you know what you need. But please take care, I'm thinking of you, Kira

Posted on Jul 26, 2000, 12:33 PM
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thank you Kira

by Margaret (no login)

you're a good friend.
I'm trying to take care of myself- it's just hard. I know this will pass- I'm just being impatient I guess.
Thanks for caring.
Margaret

Posted on Jul 26, 2000, 8:09 PM
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thank you Kira

by Margaret (no login)

you're a good friend.
I'm trying to take care of myself- it's just hard. I know this will pass- I'm just being impatient I guess.
Thanks for caring.
Margaret

Posted on Jul 26, 2000, 8:10 PM
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heal? how?

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this is my 1st post here. basically I feel like I am still suffering. not healing. it's still there. I can't shake the crap (abuse,sexual and child)
I'm sure my parents wouldn't thing it was abuse. (discipline)but I'm sorry Mom but I think YOU ABUSED ME.. question is picking a little girl up by her pony tail abuse?? hitting with a spoon. bare but with the belt? for some reason I can't get this stuff out in therapy ..well I have and forgot it for a while but now it's back again. I'm depressed and still fighting though. I'm just so unhappy . I feel ugly and am too ashamed to say some stuff in therapy. I hate sitting there crying feeling like a jerk.oh btw I'm bipolar and PTSD
please I feel invisible or alone..not sure which.

Posted on Jul 24, 2000, 10:14 PM
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Hi Lisa.

by (Login HealingWymn)
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Hi Lisa. I'm so glad you chose to write here. I know healing is hard. All abuse hurts, and the things you described are abuse. Healing is a process...it takes time. The fact that you were able to put aside the pain for a while says that you have begun your healing, even though you are feeling the pain again. Healing happens in layers, so it will get better and then worse and then better again for a while. But I encourage you to keep at it, because the healing does happen. I know it's hard to open up in t, but as you are able to do so, I encourage it. Opening up here is a great step in the meantime, and you are welcome to continue to post here as much as you wish. You are not alone, and you are not invisible.

Peace,
Terrie

Posted on Jul 24, 2000, 11:24 PM
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Hi Terrie,

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Hi. thanks for replying to me. I'll tell you all a bit about me ..(the positive side) I'm married 13 years and have 3 children of my own now. I think part of my problem is I find myself turning into my mom at times. that's when I hurry and call and get to the dr faster. or move my therapy appointment up. I am not the type to just hit my kids. but every once in a while I do. but I don't want to. after. I feel JUST AWFUL. I'm working SO hard to NOT BE MY PARENTS. I don't want history to repeat. it's nice to meet you . nice to have someone listen
Lisa

Posted on Jul 26, 2000, 8:36 AM
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Lisa

by Mandy (no login)

Hi Lisa,
I'm glad you decided to write in here. Writing helps express more feelings, sometimes it is easier to write it out than to say it. Perhaps, you could write out how you are feeling and give it to your T (just a suggestion).
Healing takes time, someone on this forum said that healing is like going through a spiral. As you are healing, you move up the spiral; however, there are times when you slide down a bit, but if you can stand strong, you will move up again. As this process continue, eventually, you will get to the light at the end of the tunnel. (that's my interpretation)
I'm sorry if i confused you,
Mandy

Posted on Jul 26, 2000, 12:04 AM
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Hi Mandy

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I've noticed that with me. I'm better for a while like 4 months or so. and then it all comes back. It's hard at times. I keep wanting to work on the present with my therapist. and it's not working because I still have that past junk creeping back up on me. I've told him that at times. Next visit I'm sure I'll talk about it again. I know I need a
good cry about it .but it won't come out. I don't know why. maybe because I don't want anyone to see me cry. It's almost like I feel like if I'm crying I'm crumbling. but I know I'm not. (things are strange how they appear to us aren't they?)
Did you see my post back to Terrie?
Lisa .. ps. nice to meet you and thank you for listening

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Kimberly, are you ok?

by Kira (no login)

Kimberly, how have you been? How is your friend with the baby? I'm just checking in to let you know I'm thinking of you both, All the best, Kira

Posted on Jul 24, 2000, 2:44 PM
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Kira

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Hi Kira,
Thanks for asking-I have been away at the beach since the end of last week. I am ok-things are kind of crazy right now, think I'm handling it ok-best I can for now-which i guess is good enough. Haven't heard anything from or about my friend and I am concerned-just trying to put it all in God's hands-since there is nothing else I can do-best place for her anyway I think. Got my get away anyway complete with parasailing and waverunners (this could be addictive). Just chilling now and taking a day at a time, trying
to not get in my own way (if you know what I mean).How are you doing? Haven't had a chance to catch up on anything yet-I hope you're doing well.
Take special care Kira, Kimberly


Posted on Jul 24, 2000, 6:43 PM
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Hi Kimberly

by Kira (no login)

Kimberly, your week at the beach sounds so much better than my week! It seems like you needed that so I'm glad you got some time. Everything here is ok, crazy busy, sometimes sad, sometimes angry, but today is pretty good. ONE DAY AT A TIME!!! I'm keeping your friend and the baby in my thoughts and also you. Please take care, Kira

Posted on Jul 25, 2000, 8:37 PM
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Kimberly

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Hi Kimberly, it's good to hear from you. I'm so glad you got a few days at the beach. Life here is a little crazy too, but it's ok. I really wish I could be in the ocean right now. In fact, the last few days that's exactly where I've wanted to be. But no, I'm in algebra!!! I am keeping your friend and the baby, as well as you all in my thoughts. Please take care, Kira

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OOPS!!!

by kira (no login)

I don't know what happened. I responded, it didn't post, so a few min's later I wrote again and now both postings are here!!! All for you Kimberly!!!

Posted on Jul 25, 2000, 8:46 PM
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Im still here

by Terry (no login)

Thankyou for your words and prayers. I have stayed why I really don't know but im here. No Angels for us today just dust fairies!

Il write tomorrow, I dont know what to say today except Im ashamed of my weakness and sorry to have troubled you all.



Terry

Posted on Jul 24, 2000, 5:02 AM
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I'm so glad!

by For Terry (no login)

Hi Terry, I'm really glad you decided to stick around. Don't be ashamed. It's just stuff that we all go through on this board. I'm really glad you decided to stay!

I hope that your day goes okay today. Please let us know how things are going.
Happy dust fairies,
Erin

Posted on Jul 24, 2000, 9:23 AM
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whoops

by Erin (no login)

Message above from me!

Posted on Jul 24, 2000, 9:32 AM
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Hi Terry

by Kira (no login)

Terry, I'm so glad you are still here. I beleive you have more angels than you think. And I also beleive that what you are considering your weakness is really your vulnerability and allowing yourself to feel it will enable you to find the strength to go on and to heal in whatever way you need to. I guess what Iam saying is that what you see as your weakness, I see as your strength. Does that make sense to you? Anyway, my thoughts really are with you. Please take care of yourself and write again, Kira

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I'm so glad also

by Margaret (no login)

There's no reason for shame- we've all been there- sometimes the pain just gets to be so much- but it's never too much really- for we are strong. Just know that we continue to be here and support you.
Margaret

Posted on Jul 24, 2000, 8:42 PM
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Terry

by (Login HealingWymn)
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I'm so glad you are still here. I know I would have missed you and the others so much if you had gone on. I know things are hard, but if you take things one step at a time, and continue to reach out, you can and will make it through it all. You are a blessing in my life, and I hope you choose to remain so for a long time.

Safe hugs if you want them,
Terrie

Posted on Jul 24, 2000, 11:17 PM
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For Terry

by Erin (no login)

Dear Terry,

We have not met, but I saw your message to Margaret and felt that I wanted to put in a word to you. I have really enjoyed getting to know Cassie and the little one through postings, and I care about you too, since you are the body that holds them and the others. I want you to know that even though we have never met that I care about you all very deeply. While it might feel sad that the only ones who hear you and Cassie are on the computer, I think that it can sometimes be easier to meet new people here.

It is very important to me that you stay around, Terry. I have been through the kind of pain that makes you want to leave, and to kill and hurt yourself, and I want you to know that it goes away again. I'm sure you have been through this yourself at different times, times when you might have wanted or tried to kill yourself. I want to remind you that later, when you are holding your cat, or reading a nice letter from Terrie or Margaret, you might feel a tiny bit better and maybe want to stick around.

I want you all to stick around very, very much and I will be extremly sad if you go. Please hang on Terry. I am sending all my love and prayers.

Erin

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Hi Margaret

by Terry (no login)

We havent "formally" met but I am the body that holds Cassie and the little one and many others. I am writing on behalf of Cassie. We are not doing at all well and don't think we will make it past Monday. We are busy tidying up a few things and then were taking the big vacation. Dont know how we'll go. We quite T the other day, destroyed all journals, drawings, poems etc. Time to finish with this phase of our life and move on. I know Terrie is away but will see this - - Terrie we have loved you.

Margaret many thanks for reaching to Cassie during a difficult week it is sad when only those that hear are on a computer.

May you have a long and healthy life filled with the love and joy that you deserve

Terry

Posted on Jul 22, 2000, 7:09 AM
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hi Terry

by Margaret (no login)

It is sad that only those on the computer hear Cassie- you're right about that- but we do hear her and now you.

It sounds as though you're having a really difficult time- but I encourage you to reach out and hold on to any hope you might be able to grasp.

The pain of healing is temporary Terry. Things are going to get easier. I don't know you well enough to tell you specifically how your decision might impact you- but I can tell you Terrie will be profoundly affected if you choose to as you put it "take the big vacation".

I truly wish you'd reconsider- you too deserve a long life filled with love and joy. You can have it- but you must choose it and work for it Terry.

You say it's time to finish this phase of your life and move on- death is permanent Terry.

I don't know what your religious beliefs are and I'm really not the type to preach- but I feel such pain in what you write-

I really hadn't planned to mention this but in case in some way it might make a difference- I too have others within. I know how difficult that alone can be sometimes- have you talked to the others? I know for me the times I've wanted to give up- there's always someone inside that holds onto the hope that things will get better- it's not always the same part- depends I guess on what various ones are going through. The others should have a say - you're all in this together.

I can't stop you from harming yourself- but I am going to encourage you to really think about whether you want to die or simply want all the pain and hurt to go away. I also am going to encourage you to recognize the impact your decision will have on others. Did you ever see the movie "It's a Wonderful Life"? Without you things would be different- and who knows what great things you're supposed to do in the future that without you here won't happen.

I'm not really sure what else to say Terry- except that I'm here to listen-- to you or Cassie, or little one or anyone else for that matter. You are worth so much. Please don't give up.

Be gentle with yourself and know you have my prayers.

Margaret

Posted on Jul 22, 2000, 8:29 PM
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Hi Terry

by Kira (no login)

Hi Terry, We also have not formally met, I'm Kira. I've read some of Cassie's postings and wanted to say hi to her too. It is sad when only those on a computer hear us, and people we don't even know! I go through that all the time lately. It seems that noone around me understands what I am saying, crying or even screaming. But the truth is, there are people who understand and who will hear. All of us who come to this site understand and while we don't know each other and can't physically see eachother, it does help to talk with others who have been through the same or similar. Personally, it gives me hope that there are more people out there who will understand. Margaret and Erin are right. Death is permanent and cannot be reversed. And I agree with Margaret. Who knows what you can and will do in the future, who's lives you will touch or change, and what wonderful experiences are in your future. Sometimes when you have hit rock bottom and feel there is no way out, that's exactly when you find the strength to change everything. Please hang on. Take care of yourself and the others, and please come back and write again to let us know you are alright, or even that you are not alright, just come back. My thoughts are with you, Kira

Posted on Jul 23, 2000, 11:30 PM
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hi Cassie

by Margaret (no login)

Just checking in to say hi. Hope you're doing ok.
Margaret

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