You claimed you DON'T KNOW
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N"So NOW WILL YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION as to who/what was the PRIMARY CAUSE of ALL THINGS FINITE that come to be? There is a choice you have......you either accept the fact of God OR you go into denial but one thing you CAN'T do is make ANY CLAIM that REAL science supports the farce of evolution."
I've answered your question over and over and over. I don't know. What I do know is that the Theory of Evolution makes no claims about the formation of the universe or the origins of life. REAL science supports evolution, not this trumped up strawman you keep tearing down.
N> Well if you don't know Phred then the fact is your basing your evolutionary theory on conjecture which proves me correct. However, IF YOU CAN look at the Cosmological Argument and REALLY REASON you can reasonably conclude that God does INDEED EXIST. How does it work? It's basis is the efficient first cause thereof of ALL THINGS FINITE. Since you deny the Law of Causality you don't have science at all let alone REAL SCIENCE because you don't have the PRIMARY FIRST CAUSE. IOW you may be able to observe the growth of the fetus within a womb and just call it evolution and science BUT unless you have the answer of a CAUSE of how that fetus came to be you may call it evolution but at best your call is conjecture. REAL SCIENCE would teach you that the fetus could never come to be out of ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. There has to be a cause.
Now going back to the very beginning, to the FIRST "FINITE" thing that came to be (BEING) there HAS TO BE a NECESSARY INFINITE BEING in EXISTENCE (GOD) in order to cause that which is a contingent (FINITE) being. A finite being cannot exist without a cause. Evolutionists ludicrously claim that existence came out of abslutely nothing while at the same naming that cause (spontaneous generation). Meanswhile they have no scientific for spontaneous generation they say it just happened which is absolutely ludicrous.
Real scientists that actually use their brains for REAL SCIENCE admit to the ludicrous claim.
Intelligent Designers use rationality and reason to admit that the ONLY POSSIBLE LOGICAL ANSWER that can be valid from an ID perspective is a designer whom the Creationists call God.
Now Phred unless you can give me the scientific reply disproving the ID/Creationist claim, (YOU CAN'T) then evolution is at best a wild fantasy, but ID/God is proven. The evidence from REAL science AND logic points to a designer while evolution points to fantasy.
Now Phred WHAT is YOUR SCIENTIFIC solution disproving God as the PRIMARY FIRST CAUSE of ALL THINGS THAT COME TO BE? I'm asking you for a direct answer to my question NOT ANOTHER DIVERSION, DENIAL, or CHEAPOUT.
And please don't label it a strawman because if you do then evolution is a REAL STRAWMAN. The evolutionary hoax you've fallen for is not a minor issue. The whole supposed sound wall that evolutionists hold as facts crumbles with every fraud and ape man fallacy.
“All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”~~~~Edmund Burke
