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visit to Wymondham

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I will be visiting the area in early October and am wondering if there are any B&Bs nearby? My genealogy roots are the Kirks and Johnsons.

Posted on Sep 5, 2002, 3:16 AM

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Re: visit to Wymondham

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Hello Bonnie

There are details of B&Bs on the Essentials page, though I'm not sure at the moment whether The Banks and The Windmill are still offering accommodation. The Old Rectory is the only option at the heart of the village. Use the search box on the Homepage to find out more.

All the best,

Jake Young
WebCobbler to Wymondham

Posted on Sep 7, 2002, 8:26 AM

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How to get there

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I will travel by bus to Leicester then by tain to Melton Mowbray and then? a cab? local bus? Is it possible to do a round trip in a day from London?

Posted on Sep 12, 2002, 11:06 PM

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Re: How to get here

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Hello Bonnie

It would be possible to do a day-trip from London, though you'd have to set off early and the late trains' timings aren't too reliable.

In London you have a choice of King's Cross and St. Pancras stations: they're right next to each other. St. Pancras is for the Leicester route, but you can travel from King's Cross and change at Peterborough. You would then need to get the Birmingham train and get off at Oakham. The next stop is Melton Mowbray, but the walk from Oakham's station to Somerfield supermarket for the bus is much shorter than Melton's station to St Mary's Way. Also, the walk from Leicester's station to the Haymarket bus station is quite a hike. However, if you would like a walk through Leicester, maybe visiting the large market on the way, it would be more interesting than sitting on Peterborough platform.

To do most of the journey by rail, I'd get the "insurance option" of a King's Cross to Melton Mowbray via Peterborough ticket, so you can maybe return via Melton if the timings are more convenient. Different companies now run different sections of track, and it may be cheaper to buy a separate return ticket to Melton when you get to Peterborough.

Let me know your departure date and I'll get a local bus timetable uploaded. I could also try and get a train timetable. The buses run roughly every couple of hours, with the journey from Oakham being longer and bumpier, but taking you through several villages along the Vale of Catmose.

You can get back to Oakham for 6:50pm and Melton by 7:00pm by bus; or book a taxi. Bus fares are £1.35 single, £2.50 return for Melton-Wymondham while a taxi is about £9.00

Bon voyage!

Jake Young

Posted on Sep 13, 2002, 10:37 AM

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Hooray!! We Have got some GRAVY SALT.

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Following up the clue from Mike Garton`s message dated Aug. 7th, we visited the Tesco store in Stafford. There they had a fine display of Compton`s gravy salt- well about two dozen packets!.
The price is 42pence for 128g (4.5oz).
The checkout girl said that as far as she knows it is now a normal stock item. My wife has used Compton`s in the past and says that it is perfectly OK.
Off you all go to Tesco then!!!!!!


Posted on Aug 25, 2002, 8:16 PM

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Gravy Salt

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I went to post a message to say that my sister-in-law had presented me with a packet of Comptons Gravy salt and you had beaten me to it. This product looks very similar to the test batch Jake sent me but it is still quite different to Burdall's. We have tasted the raw ingredient and find it quite a bit salty compared to the original and the trial - so I would advise everyone to be careful of how much they use for the first one or two attempts. The ingredients of this are Salt, Caramel and Cornflour and is manufactured by Comptons - House or York Limited, Westmorland Street, Carlisle. It appears that Tesco have it in all their shops - they must have heard about all the cries for help for Burdall's

Posted on Aug 29, 2002, 11:21 PM

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Congratulations to Wymondham WI

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Was searching the net for lyrics/music of Richard Stilgoe's song about WI when I was transported to your site with the wonderful image of your WI ladies.

Well done. It is good to see the cobwebs being blown away and the WI movement moving on.

Please pass my congratulations to all involved and would you be kind enough to ask WI chairman, Kay Bruce to contact me as NATIONAL WI couldn't help me with tracking down Richard Stilgoe's song.

Many thanks
Sue Hamilton
President
Towcester Evening WI
Northants Federation

Posted on Aug 25, 2002, 4:14 PM

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The WI Song

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The "WI Song" was transcribed from a performance by Richard Stilgoe and Peter Skellern.

Wymondham WI makes no representations or warranties concerning the accuracy of the transcription and neither does it take any responsibility if all or any part of it is reproduced or published in any form.


THE WI SONG, 1999

Hi! we're the WI and we take a very nice snapshot.
Hi! we're the WI and we're going to show you what we've got.
We're the institute in its birthday suit,
It may need ironing but it still looks cute.
Hi! (cooee!) we're the WI and what we've got is quite a lot.

Dot said we ought to have a calendar,
Some of us were rather on edge.
Enid said she already had a colander,
She used it every Sunday when she strained the veg.
Dot said listen, we're going to go nude,
Tasteful mind, nothing crude.
Violet said we have nothing to lose
While Enid took off her shoes.
Oooh, said Enid, that's better and everybody's shoes went west.
Oooh, we all said, that's better and Enid discarded her vest.
We ripped off petticoats, stays and bodices,
Things not seen since Homer's Odysseys.
Dot said fine, I think we'll find we need something to stand behind.

Hi! we're the WI, we're the ladies who lunch
Hi! want to give you the eye from behind the victoria sponge.
We've reached the depths of depravity
Thanks to age and the laws of gravity.
Hi! (cooee!) we're the WI and everything is taking a plunge
But we're not dead yet, we're glad to be grey.
As the calendar marks each passing day
These bodies have been there, done it, seen it,
Except of course for poor Enid.
Dot has knitted us a web site, you can gaze at us all day
It's w w w dot WI dot co dot uk

Hi! we're the WI. Shout it from the tallest towers,
Slap my thigh, we're the WI, gaze at us for hours and hours.
Next year you can see on cable
The video we made with the Round Table,
Not a lot of exclusive coterie, plus three lions and a hunk from Rotary.
Hi! we're the WI and it's more fun than arranging flowers....
Undo my bow of burning gold,
Loose off my arrows of desire.
Tho' you may think this old boiler's cold
The pilot light is still on fire.
When Patrick Lichfield comes to call
We'll strut our stuff, won't give a damn
And we shall sing Jerusalem
And smear ourselves with home-made jam.

Posted on Sep 12, 2002, 10:26 AM

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Michael Coulson -- passed away

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Michael Coulson introduced me to Florentine biscuits; let me fire at my first clay pigeon; and tried to interest me in casting concrete ornamental balls. His humour bubbled and bit, but he gave fair quarter and along with his innate politeness it shone through the Alzheimer's which clouded his last years.

Michael died on Tuesday, 18th June and our thoughts are with Barbie, Ivo, Tim and Sarah.

Posted on Jun 20, 2002, 12:48 AM

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Queens Gravy Browning

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Has anyone heard of this? I use it to make my gravy and suddenly I can't buy it anywhere. It was made by Space Foods so I guess it isn't available anymore?



Posted on Jun 17, 2002, 4:22 PM

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Burdalls gravy salts

by margaret Taylor

Could you please tell me if this product is still in production and if so where can i get it from contact me on 01305 823803

Posted on Jun 2, 2002, 3:23 PM

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Re: Burdalls gravy salts

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Hello Margaret,

Burdall's Gravy Salt is no longer manufactured by Space Foods of Wymondham, Leicestershire. The company has closed down. There's a Butcher in Cupar, Scotland who will sell to callers to his shop, and I will make an alternative gravy salt and supply it by mail if only a few of the many people who say they desparately want it will have the courage to pre-order some. You can find my address on the Homepage of this site, and ordering details here by following the links provided.

I'll try to answer any further questions by email if you supply your address.

Regards,

Jake Young
WebCobbler to Wymondham

Posted on Jun 3, 2002, 7:48 PM

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Origin of Burdall's

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I came across your discussion while web-browsing: If anyone's interested, the esteemed Gravy Salt was invented in Sheffield...

In 1902 Herbert Moses Burdall of 38 Commonside, Sheffield was a Drysalter for the firm of Henry Petrie & Co. of Gibraltar Street ('founded in Victoria's reign' was Burdall's later advertising logo), but by 1907 father and son 'Burdall and Burdall' had taken over the drysalting business themselves.
Expansion proceeded apace, with the acquisition of 200-206 Gibraltar St, 1-11 Allen St, 35-39 Spring St and with stores on Steelhouse Lane, the company now listed as Manufacturing Chemists as well as making 'Grocer's Sundries'. Burdall (senior) and son Herbert Alonza Burdall took residence on Riverdale Road (a distinctly upmarket address) as their salt ventures diversified, from '(Begin Your Day Well with) Day Dawn Health Salt' to the famous 'Burdall's Gravy Salt'. A vast new factory covering 22 acres testified to their success: looking out over Hillsborough, Sheffield through '800 windows' and incorporating 60 worker's residences...
Their other brand-names included Anchor Baking Powder (remember that?), Juniper Backache Pills, Zora and Missing Link - I have no idea what the last two were!

Posted on Aug 11, 2002, 8:24 AM

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purchasing Burdall's Gravy Salt

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Jake'
Following our conversation this afternoon at your hedge. I have tried to oprder some gravy salt from the Wyndhomen sight and failed miserably. I would therefore request that you reserve £6.00 worth from your next batch for me. I shall send the necessary cheque and address by snail mail.
regards
Roger

Posted on Aug 29, 2002, 8:40 PM

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Re: purchasing Gravy Salt

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Hello Roger

Yup, snail-mail is the way to do it. There's no on-line ordering process, and it's getting difficult to spot the relevant posts on this message board, but using the search box on the home page to look for gravy will take you to a page where the relevant posts are linked-to.

As you know, I hope there will be good progress made during September.

All the best

Jake Young

Posted on Aug 31, 2002, 1:22 PM

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please help/burdalls a must.

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Need to purchase burdalls gravy salt and having no success.
Is it still on market? If so can you help me with an address or source.

Posted on Oct 27, 2002, 6:15 PM

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Re: please help/burdalls a must.

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THERE IS A BUTCHERS IN CUPAR CALLED STEWARTS HE WILL NOT SEND IT IN SMALL QUANTITES BUT HE WILL IN BULK, I HAVE USED IT, IT IS THE REAL THING

Posted on Oct 29, 2002, 9:26 PM

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Burdalls

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Please could you supply me with the name and address of the butcher in Cupar who is supplying Burdalls in bulk. Do you have a telephone number.

I would be grateful for any information you could me

regards

Hilary Baldwin

Posted on Feb 3, 2003, 3:37 PM

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please help/burdalls a must.

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Need to purchase burdalls gravy salt and having no success.
Is it still on market? If so can you help me with an address or source.

Posted on Oct 27, 2002, 6:19 PM

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Burdalls - can it still be obtained?

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I have read the messages, however, they are likely to be out of date now. I would be very grateful if anyone could tell me if it is possible to still obtain any or a similar substitute

Posted on Feb 5, 2004, 7:34 PM

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Not the same, but it will maybe do

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I did not realise that I was not alone in my quest for Burdall's gravy salt. Funny thing is that I did see it somewhere when I wasn't needing any and now that my supply is at at end, so it seems is Burdall's gravy salt. Anyway I now have a box of Comptons Gravy Salt which I am going to try. Made by Penguin Confectionery Group Limited in Carlisle. I will let you know how it compares.

Posted on May 20, 2002, 2:44 PM

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where can i get this from?

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i have also used gravy salt for years and my mum before me, i cant beleive there not selling it anymore, gravy just isnt the same, please could u tell me where u got the queens gravy salt from so i can try it.

thankyou

Posted on Aug 25, 2002, 3:47 PM

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Don Christie -- passed away

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Don Christie died this morning during a game of golf with friends. I'm sure there could be few better ways for him to end his days, but his passing was completely unexpected.

Don had lived at The Pines (the old station) for nearly 20 years and was the organizer of many village events, for instance the Open Gardens of 2000. His fundraising barbeque every August was eagerly awaited and its congenial host will be sorely missed.

This evening he was due to attend a screening of the video recording of the Wymondham Players' 2002 pantomime, with which he was heavily involved.

Don was also collecting local sayings and anecdotes, hoping to publish a booklet in aid of Church funds. His many friends in Wymondham and beyond could fill a book with happy memories of Don Christie, a true gentleman.

Posted on May 13, 2002, 11:58 PM

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Gravy Salt Trial

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Those who were first to pre-order have been sent samples of Gravy Salt.

I hope they will drop by this message-board and tell us if the product meets their expectations or how it could be improved.

Regards,

Jake

Posted on Apr 30, 2002, 10:23 PM

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Gravy Salt

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Since we moved down to South Wales in 2000 we have not been able to find any gravy salt. My wife has recently used up her last block. Do you know where we can get gravy salt in South Wales please? Thanks
Ashley & Lynne Davies

Posted on May 3, 2002, 12:08 AM

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Gravy Salt

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Please Help. Did you have any luck with your efforts to find gravy salt?
I live in Telford, Shropshire. My mother lives in Liverpool. Neither my wife, nor my mother can find "Burdalls Gravy Salt" Our Sunday roasts have never been the same since we ran out!

I tried searching the net to find where I can buy some, but without sucess. If you know where I can buy some, please e-mail me.

Cheers
John

Posted on May 6, 2002, 9:15 AM

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re-gravy salt

by mamapigeon

found out you can buy it from a butcher i
n "cupar,fife"d.l.stewart, 52,bonnygate. cupar. fife.bought by a scottish firm,from space foods. and still sold only to trade in drums. butcher has no time to go to "post office" apparently to send any.

Posted on May 9, 2002, 11:40 PM

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Thank you

by kirsteen meldrum

Thank you for the information about the butcher in cupar who supplies the Burdalls Gravy Salt. I can't imagine cooking without it.

Posted on Jun 14, 2002, 3:46 PM

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butchers?

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please can you tell me the address of the butchers thats sells burdalls gavy salt.

thankyou

Posted on Aug 25, 2002, 4:25 PM

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Update please Who, Where, How??? Gravy Salt

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Hi - I have not read all the meassges on the forum - can anyone update me as to whether a recipe is availble for home making or who bought it from space foods..?? We miss this and can't stand gravy without it!!!

Help please

Posted on May 19, 2002, 9:34 PM

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Re: Update please Who, Where, How??? Gravy Salt

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Hello Geoff,

I've made a few suggestions about ways of colouring gravy, but most people want a close alternative to Burdall's, for which you need a source of caramel.

I've offered to make gravy salt but there has to be a enough real interest to get started. If you are interested please see this post.

Regards,

Jake Young
Wymondham

Posted on May 22, 2002, 10:18 AM

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gravy salt trial

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Hi Jake,
Just having a scouse taste test with my sample batch of gravy salt and I would like to pass the following comments on to you.
The original gravy salt was crumblier. The sample stayed in a solid block until disolving in the pan.
The original was saltier and had a sweeter after taste.
The sample was quite dry tasting by comparison.
The sample left quite a bit of 'sediment' and 'dyed' the meat a very dark colour.
I had to use the whole sample on one pan of scouse although it was a family size.
On a scale of 1-10 I would give it 6 up to now and can imagine, with the help of further testing, we might just get there in the end.
For a first attempt I think it has potential. 10 out of ten to you for making such an effort on behalf of all the gravy salt fans out there. Cheers Jake.

Regards,
Angela Martinelli.

Posted on May 7, 2002, 2:09 PM

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Re: gravy salt trial

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Hello Angela,

Many thanks for your comments.

I've no real experience with altering the consistency at the moment. The sample batch was mixed and bagged (the bags seem porous) and then there was a delay until I found a program to make the address labels, and the heavier weight bags for protection in the post. When I came back to the samples they had started to solidify, as mentioned in the note included.

If Burdall's was saltier that means it provided less colour -- you must be used to using more to get the same colour that the sample would provide. The suggested usage of 1tsp per pint matches guidelines for gravy and soup, so it comes down to personal preferences and I think it's better for users to add more salt if desired. Your comment that the meat was dyed a dark colour also suggests you used too much, or that the gravy salt should've been completely dissolved before adding to the pan.

I am interested to hear mention of sweetness. Was this in the scouse as a whole? I don't think you mixed up and tasted the gravy salt and liquid separately, so I should think the food ingredients had a far greater effect on the overall flavour than the gravy salt. The aroma from the caramel might be what you are aware of.

Best regards,

Jake Young

Posted on May 12, 2002, 10:59 AM

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gravy salt trial

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Hiya Jake, Thanks for your reply.
It may help you to know that the original gravy salt was always wrapped in a 'waxy' paper. This probably stopped it from hardening.
I am guilty of not making up the gravy seperately from the scouse. I just chuck it in with everything else! The answer would be to use more salt and less gravy block.
I rated the sample as 6 out of ten but after testing it out on the rest of the family later, the rating went up to 8. They couldn't taste much difference from the original. Their only comment was the 'sediment'.
I'd definately use it again.

Regards,Angela.

Posted on May 12, 2002, 1:58 PM

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Burdall's

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Jake,
Have just sent you an e-mail and then discoverd further messages on the message thread. Some of my suggestions have already been met but I think there are one or two things which might still be investigated especially the Delia Smith suggestion and the Patent Office suggestion. Apologies for wasting some of your time but am very interested in your work on this subject.
David Fenton

Posted on May 15, 2002, 7:59 PM

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Re: Burdall's

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Hello Dave,

A valid email address would help with communications!

I don't know what you mean by your reference to the Patent Office. As I understand it, processes may be patented, not recipes, and in any case any patent for Burdall's would've long-since expired.

Saint Delia could be a good friend to the new gravy salt, but it needs to be in production first, and it won't reach that stage if people aren't prepared to support it. Please see this post for details of how to pre-order.

Regards,

Jake Young
Wymondham

Posted on May 22, 2002, 10:28 AM

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Gravy Salt Trial

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Many Thanks Jake!
Gravy Salt was a success and is easily the nearest thing to Burdalls I've had so far. Whilst the consistency was a bit different (a bit more granular looking) once added and cooked it was fine. Would say that Burdalls probably was a little sweeter, but even if no further adjustments were made, I would definately buy this product over any others on the market at the moment.

Cheers!
Jayne

Posted on May 7, 2002, 10:13 PM

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No Sample Received

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Jake

When I placed my order I sent off a cheque to you for £9.00 This was an order for myself, and two of my sister in laws. I sent you the three names and addresses where the samples should be sent. I received my sample and one of my sister in laws Mrs Mary Forrest received hers. My other sister in law Mrs B Forrest, 89 White Street, Whitburn, West Lothian, has still not received her sample. Can you let me know what has happened to it as she is feeling a bit put out that we received ours and she didn't.

Many thanks

Joyce

Posted on May 8, 2002, 9:23 PM

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Re: No Sample Received

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Hello Joyce

This message is really for anyone else looking in, as I've already replied to you directly.

The samples of gravy salt were made using a small sample of caramel sent from America, so there weren't many to go round. As two of your sisters-in-law live on the same street I sent a sample to one with the request that she could let the other try it.

All the best,

Jake

Posted on May 12, 2002, 11:11 AM

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Gravy Salt Trial

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Jake

I have read the good things about your gravy salt trial, I would like to sample some. Please get in touch, if I like it I will definately order some.


Regards

Joan

Posted on Aug 4, 2002, 7:30 PM

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Re: Gravy Salt Trial

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Sorry Joan, I can't send samples to all who request.

The samples only went out to those who were first to pre-order, and were themselves made using sample ingredients.

Regards,

Jake Young
Wymondham

Posted on Aug 8, 2002, 12:03 AM

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Re: Burdall's

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I have just run out of my favourite. I assume Space Foods are no more. Why is it not possible to get the original recipe, maybe from an ex-employee? Could you please enlighten me about the progress made so far on getting a replacement for Burdall's?

Posted on Sep 26, 2002, 10:01 PM

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Re: Burdall's

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I have just run out of my favourite. I assume Space Foods are no more. Why is it not possible to get the original recipe, maybe from an ex-employee? Could you please enlighten me about the progress made so far on getting a replacement for Burdall's?

Posted on Sep 26, 2002, 10:04 PM

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Jackson ancestors in Wymondham

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I am tracing my family history and have got back to a George JACKSON (born about 1801/3 in Edmonthorpe) who married an Eliza(beth) BEST on 18 April 1826 at Wymondham.

On the 1861 census, George (described as shoemaker) and Eliza were living at Little London, Melton Mowbray (is this actually in Melton Mowbray?) and had 4 children who were all born in Wymondham or Melton Mowbray. The children were Joseph, Edward, Robert, Jane(?) and Eliza. I am descended from Edward, who is my great great grandfather.

I would be interested to hear from anyone who may connect with my ancestors or for any useful advice.

By the way, I think the Wymondham web site is excellent.

Regards ... Steve Cordery (Maidstone, Kent)


Posted on Mar 30, 2002, 12:07 PM

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Jacksons

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I don't know if there is any link, but I would be interested if there is. I am descended from the Jacksons of Saltby/Sproxton/Coston. As it is very near by there could be a connection.My Grandmother was Irene Jackson, born in Coston in 1903. Her Father Ishmael was born in Saltby, as was his father William, and his father Ishmael.

Posted on Dec 15, 2003, 1:04 PM

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