Wymondham Message Forum Anonymous messages are accepted, but may be deleted. You may use HTML tags in the Formatted Text option, though linebreak tags are not required. Please also email Jake to be sure of a response, or if you have a problem accessing this forum. Please reload the page to get the freshest version if arriving via a link from a search engine. Birthdays by A big Happy Birthday to Cameron and Shirley who held a joint American-style party yesterday at the Sedley Centre, with a big game of softball on the school field. The Sedley Centre also celebrated 30 years since its opening. Posted on Sep 16, 2001, 11:11 AM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Brudalls gravy salt by Good day I am actually trying to trace Burdalls gravy salt which was sold by Space Foods in Wymondham......could anyone advise where I can purchase some as my Aunt from Roxby would like to buy some ...it seems hard to find. Thank you Posted on Sep 3, 2001, 1:55 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Burdall's gravy salt by Hi Several long-standing users of Burdall's gravy salt have been in touch. Maybe I should try and make it? Space Foods ceased manufacturing at the end of last year, and while I believe stock is still being distributed, there's been no help over inquiries. The product was basically caramel (burnt sugar) and salt, so quite easy to replicate. Regards Jake Young WebCobbler to Wymondham Posted on Sep 4, 2001, 2:12 AM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdall's gravy salt by Help please! My family have only just discovered the appalling news re Burdalls gravy salt. This is a complete disaster as far as we are concerned. Does anyone have any sort of recipe for the gravy block as we have 4 generations of family desperate for supplies at present?! Posted on Nov 20, 2001, 8:40 AM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdalls by Dear Jane Our family too is devastated by the news of the demise of the company making Burdall's gravy salt. As far as we are concerned there is NO substitute. I have had great difficulty buying it in SW London and so we always have to stock up when we go up to visit family in East Anglia! If you receive any news of supplies, production or a way of making it for ones self, could you PLEASE let us all know? We would be very grateful. Very best wishes Alan Castell 77 Princes Avenue Tolworth Surrey KT6 7JL 020 8399 4662 Posted on Nov 20, 2001, 9:19 AM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdall's Gravy Salt -- alternatives by No-one's been brave enough to try caramel and salt then? Soy sauce is basically the same stuff, but you'd probably want to add more salt. You could also try miso paste. These are both Japanese products that also impart their own flavour, which is what the majority of Burdall's users don't seem to want -- or else they'd use a stock-cube. If anyone wants to send me a small quantity of their remaining Burdall's, I'll try and come up with a recipe. The only time I tried the real stuff I didn't get the point that it's the basis of the gravy, and not the source of flavour. Good luck! Jake Young WebCobbler to Wymondham Posted on Nov 20, 2001, 12:49 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home BURDALL'S GRAVY by Hi there have seen your email about the above,. This is a nation disaster, why can't we protect our Historic past of good solid food . As far as I see, if it would good enough for Queen Vic then it is good enough for me. Can you send me addresses where old stock can be found so I can by the lot. If not I will send some of the stuff to you to make it. Posted on Nov 23, 2001, 3:35 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdall's gravy by I too am devastated. If anyone knows where there are any stocks left - preferably in the East Midlands or South Yorkshire, please let me know. I have now exhausted all my local supermarkets. Posted on Dec 2, 2001, 7:16 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Sample stock by I started my final block yesterday and though I am loathe to part with it!! I don't mind sending you some to experiment with - let me know if you still need some and I will post it on to you. Regards, Elaine Davies Posted on Feb 5, 2002, 12:34 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdall's Gravy Salt by Hi Jane! I am glad I'm not the only person out there desperately seeking Burdall's. I was hoping to contact the company on-line when I found this message board and I am also devastated. Several generations of my family use the stuff and send it to each other around the country. Since using the last of mine a couple of weeks ago I have been using Comptons Gravy Salt, which is Ok but definitely not like the real thing. It contains cornflour as well as salt & caramel and you need a lot more of it than Burdall's. Soy sauce is also no substitute. I will watch this site with interest now to see if there is an answer out there...... Posted on Nov 27, 2001, 1:50 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdall's Gravy Salt by Thank you, Joanna, for the information that Burdall's contained no cornflour. I don't think now that caramellised sugar can be the same thing as the caramel used for food colouring. The latter is available in both liquid and granular form, with various strengths of "brownness", and one type that's stable in high salt concentrations e.g. gravy mixes. I don't know where to get it in non-industrial quantities You could try black treacle as the source of colour. Good luck, gravy-makers! Jake Young WebCobbler to Wymondham Posted on Nov 27, 2001, 10:52 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdall's Gravy Salt by Like my sister Joanna Kelly, I am gutted to hear about the demise of Burdall's Gravy salt. It's use has been passed down through at least three generations of a very large family to myself and my siblings and I have also passed it on to my own children. Just when they have reached the age of flying the nest and cooking for themselves they now have to find a whole new way of making gravy. My mum in Yorkshire has always obtained my supplies as it has been impossible to buy it in the Bristol area during the 15 years I have lived here. I'm too old to change now. Please keep me informed of your search for supplies of Burdall's - I'm still chipping away at my last remaining block (yes it's gone solid - one of it's few downsides) but might just last till Christmas. Good luck. Posted on Nov 28, 2001, 10:06 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdall's ingredients by I received a quote today for caramel as used in gravy mixes. It comes in a 30kg (66lb) sack and I could probably make a non-profit Burdall's for £3.00 per lb., delivered. (Donations towards the upkeep of the website would be a nice gesture.) If anyone wishes to pursue this then a reasonable number of you will have to get involved and buy in quite large quantities; or spread the word so smaller pack sizes can be supplied to a greater number. The ball's in your court, if you want the gravy in your pot Jake Young WebCobbler to Wymondham Posted on Nov 29, 2001, 12:18 AM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdalls Gravy Salt by YES YES I'm definately interested. When can you start? Posted on Dec 4, 2001, 1:43 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home er Burdall's ingredients by Yes, I'm interested in this as well. Posted on Dec 8, 2001, 12:41 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdall's gravy salt by Penny Colquhoun I think that my sister and I would be interested too, thanks! Posted on Dec 11, 2001, 10:13 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdall's Gravy Salt by Edie Bennett Put me down for a few pounds of Gravy Salt. My family and friends are desperate to get their hands on it. Do you have the exact recipe ? Posted on Dec 12, 2001, 2:53 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Another one . . .. by Glad I found this site, my wife has me scouring the world for Burdall's too. I'm sure that she'd be interested and a few of her friends as well. Posted on Dec 15, 2001, 3:30 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdalls Gravy Salt by We too have been scouring East Anglia for Burdalls with no luck. The prospect of an ordinary tasting Xmas dinner is looming so, yes please we would like some of your "Burdalls substitute" as well. Posted on Dec 16, 2001, 10:39 AM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdalls by I'm definately interested in your substitute gravy block! Please make some! Posted on Dec 16, 2001, 10:29 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Burdall's ingredients by The supplier of caramel says the minimum they'll supply is the 30kg sack, so the hard-core Burdall's fans really will need to clear some cupboard space and join the taste-test program. This can only proceed when/if the caramel is paid for. Regards, Jake Young Posted on Dec 19, 2001, 7:33 AM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdalls Ingredients by How many definate numbers are there so far? How much will it be? How do you want payment??!!! Posted on Dec 21, 2001, 10:02 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdall's by My wife has been trying to get hold of more Burdall's and, according to this message thread, so have many more people. It makes one wonder why the company went out of business. I understand that you are contemplating making some and selling it to those interested. Is it not possible to contact someone from the original firm to see if a recipe is available? Would the Patent Office have a copy of the original recipe? Or, failing both of those solutions, could someone who still has a quantity left, donate a pinch which could be sent for analysis. I notice that the message thread ends in December 2001. Has there been any further progress since then? You, Jake, seem to be the prime mover in all this and someone has to take the initiative. Are you able to take the matter further if all those who have expressed an interest are prepared to donate something towards the costs involved. Perhaps you could work out the economics of the whole thing and then put out a message on this site to see what the response would be. It might even be possible for Delia Smith (a Norfolk resident) to be asked to become involved. It would seem that anything she is interested in makes all manufacturers in the food industry jump. Perhaps an e-mail from you would do the trick. You never know, Jake, there might be a fortune in this for you. Posted on May 15, 2002, 7:51 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Order for "Burdall's " by Helen Hotchkin 3 times (1 lb.) packs please for say £10 delivered Posted on Dec 23, 2001, 1:31 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdalls by If you manage to produce this product please put me down for a order. Posted on Jan 2, 2002, 3:39 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home burdalls gravy salt by Has it gone forever? Posted on Jun 19, 2002, 5:27 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home where can i get burdalls gravy salt? by please can u tell me where i can get burdalls gravy salt from, my mum has been using it for about 50 years i also use it aswell, whats going on? please help...... thankyou. Posted on Aug 25, 2002, 3:43 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdells Gone 4EVER by i cant get ued to other gravy salts but they went bust and closed down Posted on Oct 29, 2002, 1:37 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdall's by I know at least 10 people who used Burdall's and we are all having no luck finding anything as good. If so many people are asking about it why can Space Foods Ltd start to make it again! Posted on Nov 3, 2003, 2:46 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Burdall's by Hello Caroline, Space Foods closed their factory and have no desire to make Burdall's again. As a result, Old Jake's Gravy Saviour is available by mail-order and from a few shops and farmers' markets. More information is available at www.oldjake.co.uk. I hope you'll give it a try and agree that it's easier to use than Burdall's and just as good. Best regards, Jake Young Posted on Nov 4, 2003, 9:11 AM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Burdall's by I'm a late comer to this conversation, having spent Christmas in Suffolk with my parents who only have 1 block left, I vowed to return and search the world wide web for news of supplies, I have 2 packs left and my daughter only one - so we are desperate. So please, please put us down for £10 worth - if you are able to manufacture an alternative!!! Posted on Dec 30, 2001, 11:03 AM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home RE burdalls gravy salt by I would be interested in buying more stock if you have it, and would also be interested in getting involved in its manufacture. My dad who is 84 and a former analytical chemist, and former chemical factory manager, who won't countenance anything else in his gravy, could also be interested. Are you still up for it ? Posted on Oct 7, 2003, 7:09 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home BURDALL'S GRAVY SALT by I heard about the demise of Burdall's from my Aunty Isabel and I feel that we cannot let it just disappear. For starters none of my family, relations and indeed most of Lincolnshire will be able to make proper gravy! If someone could get hold of the receipe and start making it then that would be fantastic and profitable as is seems to be in demand. If anyone can tell me of anywhere that still has some stock left I would be grateful. Posted on Dec 28, 2001, 3:42 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Wymondham Website by I really enjoyed the site, particularly the photograph's. As the granddaughter of George William Bursnall, I remember how annoyed my Aunt Dorothy was when Bursnall was spelt Bursnell,not helped by the fact she could see this sign from her lounge window!! I also have information on the Bursnall family tree, if it is of interest to any one. Posted on Aug 29, 2001, 2:13 AM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Wymondham Website by Thanks Jane! I've got some more photos to include some time. They were taken at great personal risk, but that's another story. Maybe if I'd gone disguised as a W.I. member, I would've been alright! Your relative Ralph Penniston Taylor told me of the unveiling of the "Bursnells Lane" sign. Some of us still can't get used to calling Station Road "Butt Lane". All the best, Jake Young WebCobbler to Wymondham Posted on Aug 30, 2001, 12:37 AM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Bursnell by I don't know if I am too late to ask you questions but I am looking for Frances Bursnell who married John Huddleston 1776 Also Edward Bursnell who . I think, married Hannah Pepper who was born about 1804/7 Were they related? Any news would be welcome Dot Posted on Dec 5, 2006, 2:17 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Great Site by I have just found the website and thought it was great, it brought back lots of good memories of the village. Nice to see the crossing house has been included, as we use to live there in the 70s and early 80s. Great work, keep it up. Regards Nick Posted on Aug 25, 2001, 9:56 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Great Site by Cheers Nick! It came as a surprise to me that your outpost of the village wasn't a part of Stapleford. I'll get the 1975 school photo uploaded soon. Regards, Jake Young WebCobbler to Wymondham Posted on Aug 26, 2001, 12:02 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home same name by hi my name is nick crossfield also, somehow i came across your name on a web site & thought i should should see if we are related somehow, as crossfield is not a very common name, well not in new zealand anyway. my father steve crossield son of anthony crossfield was originally from leads. im not big on family history but if this rings any bells, my family and myself would love hear about it. Posted on Jan 9, 2004, 8:52 AM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home KIRK FAMILY RESEARCH by I'm researching my husband's family. William (b.abt 1822, Wymondham)and Ann KIRK lived in Wymondham at the time of the 1891 Census. Their children were Elizabeth (b.abt 1843), Fanny Jane (b. 22 Oct 1845),William (b.abt 1850), John Henry (b.abt 1852), Robert (b.abt 1854), and Mary Ruth (b. 10 Jan 1856), all born in Wymondham. Fanny Jane and Mary Ruth both immigrated to British Columbia, Canada after the 1891 Census. They both died in Victoria, BC. Anyone reseaching this family, please contact me. Posted on Aug 20, 2001, 5:41 AM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Kirk family of Wymondham by Hello Rather excited to see your message on Wymondham message board. My maiden name is Kirk. My father, John Henry Kirk now deceased was born in Wymondham and had a wonderful memory for family history. I have a very tatty clippings book full of family history of births. marriages, deaths and Wymondham news in the late l800s early 1900s. My father left me with this family tree. Hope you can follow - William Kirk (1791-1837 died of fall from cart) -children Major Robert Kirk (l824-1895) and William Kirk (1821-1899) who married Anne Johnson (1819-1907)-children - William, Frederick (died 1883), Muriel (died 1882), Robert, Elizabeth and John Henry Kirk who married Lucy Arnold -their children were Jessy, Florence, John Henry, Victor, Lucy, Harriet, Beatrice, Robert, Sidney, and Charles William Kirk (1881-1927 my grandfather) who married Sarah Elizabeth Sharman (1884-1960) - children John Henry (1931-1991 my father) Kathleen, Joyce, Mary and Geoff. William and Ann Kirk (nee Johnson) lived at the "The Poplars" Wymondham. I have a rather touching clipping from the paper of the sale of the house with the handwriting of Anne Kirk - I quote "The dear old Home passed from me into the hands of strangers 13th July l904" It was a beautiful country house. I have many more clippings including poems written at the early death of William and Ann's children Frederick and Muriel. Sorry about this rushed note. I hope you can follow. Please post a message if you think this is the family you are searching. Posted on Mar 2, 2002, 9:34 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Update on new email address by I'm still tracking my husband's elusive family. I've gathered more info over the last 3 years, but would love to hear from anyone else researching this family. I've just gotten back to researching in 2004 after a couple of years off. Please note my new email address, if you didn't get a reply from my old hotmail account. (Sorry) Posted on Mar 27, 2004, 5:30 AM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home can you please help me by can you please help me to locate my family and friends by putting this in your local email hpeing fo a reponce i hope to return to whymondham fo a reunion in the local pub but i not shaw if some one remembers me my name is david miller & my sister was chisteana miller & my cosins was the wellbornns i live in auckland new zealand and i used to be called mousey and i used to no the naylors and i use to live in west end whymondham . and i used to go to meltom mowbray moden boys school on farrows no :9 so can you please help me thank uou and keep up the good work . and i used to no the head master mr hunter & mrs oil and the black smith shop . and i used to like carral sargent in my younger days . my mothers name was phylis miller so i do hope you can help my emil addres millerdt@hot mail.com thank you verry much mr dj miller Posted on Mar 30, 2008, 12:07 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Dewing Family History by I am trying to find out more information about my grandparents: George Walter Dewing & Hilda Harriet Dewing (nee Rudling). I think my grandfather was a gardener and lived all over Norfolk during his lifetime. I am unsure how long he lived in the Wymondham area. I believe they were both buried in Wymondham and would guess that they would have died around about 1950 -1960. If anyone has any further info, I would be most grateful. Lesley Rogers (nee Dewing) Posted on Aug 13, 2001, 12:49 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Dewing Family History by Perhaps you'll have better luck making an inquiry at a Wymondham, Norfolk site. All the best, Jake Young WebCobbler to Wymondham, Leicestershire Posted on Aug 14, 2001, 1:29 AM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home My Family by It would seem that you have a family of Wallheads in your village. As my grandfather lived in Ketton and other uncles lived arround the area this family maybe a related to me. I used to live in Grantham (Stamford Street) but have lived in Essex for the past 25years I would appreciate any info or contact Ray Wallhead Posted on Aug 10, 2001, 5:34 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: My Family by Steve and Ruth Wallhead have lived at Edmonthorpe since 1968. Please email me if you require contact details. Regards, Jake WebCobbler to Wymondham Posted on Aug 12, 2001, 1:08 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Bursnall Family by Hi. My family history is embeded in Wymondhams, and I've done a lot of research going back to 1680. If anyone has any useful info or wants some details just contact me. regards Steve Posted on Jun 30, 2001, 7:53 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Bursnall Family by Thanks, Steve.  Please get in touch! This message board no longer reveals e-mail addresses so I hope you selected the "Also send responses..." option, or drop by again. All the best, Jake Young Wymondham's WebCobbler      This message has been edited by wymwam on Jul 14, 2001 11:50 AM This message has been edited by wymwam on Jul 14, 2001 11:46 AM Posted on Jul 14, 2001, 11:44 AM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Extra by thanks Jake,responses ticked. cheers Steve. Posted on Jul 18, 2001, 7:17 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Bursnall/Hickman family by V Porteus We have just discovered that we are related to the Hickman family of Wymondham through Mary daughter of Frederick (son of Vincent Hickman) and Mary Hickman.Mary married William Veasey and our family descends from their son Freerdick William. I recall raeding that Vincent Hickman (my 4*GGrandfather) married Jane Morrison who is a grand daughter of the Bursnalls. I wondered if there was any comnnection with your line here. Posted on Jun 2, 2002, 2:13 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Hickman by Steve Bursnall Hi. Don't know the name Jane Morrison, but thats not to say there isn't a link. The Bursnall's were very numerous at one time in that area. But they is a link to the Hickman's thru a Sarah Ann Bursnall born 18-2-1841 who married a George William Hickman at Wym in 5-8-1861. Her parents were a James and Ann, who married in Sept 1839 and lived in Wym. Steve.. Posted on Jul 14, 2002, 8:50 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Bursnall/Hickman/Veasey marriages by V A Porteus Having just paid a visit to Melton Library we have now discovered that Mary Ann Bursnall married Frederick Hickman in 18 Jan 1861. Frederick died in 1862 ( his gravestone is in Wymondham churchyard next to that of his father Vincent Hickman), leaving a daughter Mary Elizabeth. It is this daughter that married William Veasey and they are parents of Albert Veasey whose name is on the war memorial at Wymondham, along with that of William's brother John Veasey. Interestingly enough, Frederick's brother George married Sarah Anne Bursnall (father - James Bursnall) on 5 Aug 1861 .The reference to Jane Morrison was taken from Ralph Penistone Taylors book on Wymondham. Posted on Jul 19, 2002, 1:30 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Bursnall-Hickman by Saw our message re:George Hickman & Sarah Bursnall. These are my gggrand-parents.Their daughter,Annie Jane Hickman married my ggrand-father Herbert Dawson (my mother's maiden name).I have a bit of info on this line & would like to exchange info with you. Posted on Jun 19, 2003, 12:57 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home The Croxton Kerrial Bursnalls by Hi Steve, Just seen your enquiry of several years ago. Wonder if you're still interested? My family come from Croxton Kerrial (not far from Wymondham) and I have so traced them back to Edward Bursnall who was born in 1775 and married Alice Moore. Do you hgave any info on Bursnalls who had relations in, or who moved to, Croxton? Grateful for anything on past Bursnalls from that area. Good luck, Malcolm Posted on Dec 14, 2006, 5:18 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Thank you by I was so surprised to find the the website whilst searching the net recently. I am quite sure that my Grandad would have be very proud to know that the village thought so much of him to write the words spoken at his funeral on the Wymondham website. I remember my Father reading that piece and thinking to myself how full and happy the life of my Grandfather really was. Thank you allowing more people to appreciate the life of Ernie he was a wonderful man. Heather. His youngest Granchild. Posted on May 11, 2001, 2:21 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Goddard Family History by Jan Drabble Really enjoyed your website, on which I was intrigued by an item that shows there is still at least one Goddard family at Wymondham. My great grandmother was Florence Goddard, whose parents Samuel (born c 1857) and Maria are listed as Poultry Dealers in the 1881 census for your village. By 1891 they had migrated to Sheffield, where Florence married John Reading, a blacksmith. In the 1851 census for Wymondham there are three Goddard families, William (born c1781) and Mary, William (born c1821) and Sarah and Samuel (born c1821) and Ellen. There are no specific addresses for any of them, and I do not know how these families connect with my great grandmother.. Would be happy to hear any information about Goddard families at Wymondham that would enrich or further my research. Posted on Apr 29, 2001, 2:43 PM Respond to this message Goto Forum Home Re: Goddard Family History by Thank you for your comments. I'll try and put the current Goddards in touch with you. 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