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Here's some additional information you might find usefull:
Pz.Ers.u.Ausb.Abt. 100
Zetterlings data from 18.5.1944 is based on a OoB titled 'Kleinere Verbände im Bereich LXXXIV. A.K.' from the KTB of AOK 7. This OoB shows that the Stabskp. had a 'leichter Pz.Zug' with 5 tanks but in contrast to the 1. - 3. Kp. the type of tank used by this 'leichter Pz.Zug' is not given. It is just noted that the 5 tanks had 5 short barreled french 3,7 cm guns. Zetterling now assumed the tanks might have been FT-17's but I can tell you they were not!
I have found a original 'Zustandsbericht' of the Abteilung dated 20.5.1944 in the 'Bundesarchiv' which gives the actual organisation down to platoon level:
Stab
Stabskp. with
- Nachr.Zug
- Werkst.Zug
- le.Pz.Zug (5 Pz.Kpfw. Renault R 35)
1.Kp. with
- I.(Pz.) Zug (5 Pz.Kpfw. Renault R 35)
- II.(Schtz.) Zug [Schtz. = Schützen = infantry]
- III.(Schtz.) Zug
2.Kp. with
- Grp.Fhr. (2 Pz.Kpfw. III 5 cm)
- I.(Pz.) Zug (1 Pz.Kpfw. Somua, 4 Pz.Kpfw. Renault R 35)
- II.(Pz.) Zug (1 Pz.Kpfw. Renault B 2, 4 Pz.Kpfw. Hotchkiss)
- III.(Pz.) Zug (1 Pz.Kpfw. III 5 cm, 4 Pz.Kpfw. Hotchkiss)
3.Kp. with
- I.(Pz.) Zug (5 Pz.Kpfw. Renault R 35)
- II.(Schtz.) Zug
- III.(Schtz.) Zug
Weapons listing:
1 Kwk 7,5 cm (f)
3 Kwk 5 cm (d)
2 Kwk 4,7 cm (f)
8 Kwk 3,7 cm lang (f)
19 Kwk 3,7 cm kurz (f)
The 4 infantry platoons were armed with just 3 light machine guns each.
Pz.Abt. 206
OoB dated 22.2.1944 found in KTB AOK 7 shows
Stab
Stabskp. with
- Nachr.Zug
- Aufkl.Zug (apparently without any armored vehicles)
- Pz.Zug (4 Pz.Kpfw. Renault B 2, 1 Pz.Kpfw. Somua)
1.Kp. (2 Pz.Kpfw. Somua, 10 Pz.Kpfw. Hotchkiss)
2.Kp. (2 Pz.Kpfw. Somua, 9 Pz.Kpfw. Hotchkiss)
Instandsetzungsstaffel
In addition to the tanks above the Abteilung reported
1 Pz.Kpfw. Renault B 2
2 Pz.Kpfw. Hotchkiss
5 Pz.Kpfw. Somua
as being in 'längerer Instandsetzung in Paris'
Next OoB dated 1.4.1944 also found in KTB AOK 7 shows
Stab
Stabskp. (3+2 Pz.Kpfw. Renault B 2, 1 Pz.Kpfw. Renault B 2 (Flamm), 2 Pz.Kpfw. Somua, 2 Pz.Kpfw. Renault R 35)
Figures 3+2, 1+3, 10+4 mean tanks operational + tanks in repair
Looks like the tanks from Paris plus a few more had returned in the meantime. There is a note added saying that it was planned to exchance 20 Hotchkiss from 1. and 2. Kp. against Somuas from the 21. Pz.Div.. If that ever happend I can't tell. Pz.Rgt. 22 still had Somuas in the 5., 6., and 7. Kp. by 1.6.1944.
So far none of the two Panzer units seems to have had any FT-17. Could also find none in any other army unit under A.O.K. 7. According to W. Spielberger 'Beute-Kraftfahrzeuge und -Panzer der deutschen Wehrmacht' these obsolete tanks were only used for security duties and occasionally on armored trains. The Luftwaffe is also known to have used some for guarding airfields. Could it be some FT-17 were based on the airfield east of Cherbourg???
Martin Block
This message has been edited by Wuensdorf from IP address 80.143.237.71 on Dec 7, 2006 8:47 AM