Looks real to me....
|March 8 2011, 2:13 PM |
I had never noticed this before, but Tiger 712 is indeed carrying some thick-rimmed wheels today. The first question is, are they original wartime issue? Most photos are not good enough to show, but here's a detail showing a wheel from another Tiger of s.Pz.Abt. 501 in Africa.
The rim does indeed seem to enclose the base flange of the tyre. So, I have a new drawing to make!
|This message has been edited by DavidByrden from IP address 22.214.171.124 on Mar 8, 2011 2:14 PM|
|Ron Owen Hayes|
|March 8 2011, 2:44 PM |
...appreciate your looking, and nice photo there, so let's see if it opens up into anything. As the photos I posted from AP6 date from the 1970s it's somewhat unlikely that APG (who don't generally give much about their captive tanks) should fabricate special non-standard wheels just for one Tiger, but who knows. I'm somewhat astounded we're having this conversation as I know next to nothing about Tigers, but actually it would also be nice to use those Tamiya rims on some DML 'initials' as much as they don't have any locking tabs either, unlike the DML items which are strictly speaking Jan 43 and later I think going by refs.
|March 11 2011, 2:40 PM |
For those who are interested we have more information on this subject here
I tried to follow this, but can someone post pictures of .....
|March 8 2011, 10:36 PM |
what is being talked about?? Does this have to do with the rim next to the tire??
I'm so confused.....................
|March 9 2011, 3:04 AM |
This is a cross-section through the edge of a wheel, showing the area in question (later version).
|March 9 2011, 4:49 PM |
The outer and inner tyre seems to be the same
OK, so I'm guessing that on Dragon's wheels, I see 2 grooves, and...
|March 9 2011, 5:19 PM |
on the Tamiya one, I see 1. I was looking at pictures and I see some with 2 grooves, but is hard to see.
I'm just trying to figure out is Dragon correct or is Tamiya?? That thread is hard to follow because answers seem to change.
I haven't examined all my photos yet, but...
|March 9 2011, 5:36 PM |
I think that a relatively small number of the wide-flange wheels were made, probably they were the first design, and they were used on some of the first 50 or so tanks, mixed with the other wheels because they were piled any which way at the factory. I can see the later-type wheels on Tiger 121 of s.Pz.Abt. 502, which is a very early vehicle.
|Ron Owen Hayes|
|March 10 2011, 3:48 AM |
Excellent, that's what I was hoping you'd say. It looks as if only 1942 production got them, and only some of them at that. The Bovington Tiger was early 1943 prod so by then it looks as if these limited stocks were already used up, it looks like a true 'initial' type of rim.