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82nd Assault Squadron, 79th Armoured Division

January 7 2009 at 8:32 AM
  (Login kevintucker)
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Thanks to Roddy de Norman for some great additional info he recently sent to me and a posting by Pete Andrews back in 2004 I have been able to compile the following info.

LCT 2025 ( lane 1 Jig Green Beach )

T.31640A LUCIFER AVRE Bobbin commanded by Lnc. Sgt. Stephenson

T.31859 LOUGH CORRIB AVRE Pusher commanded by Cpt. Southby

T.68932 LOUGH SWILLY AVRE SBG commanded by Lnc. Sgt. Pinks


LCT 2026 ( lane 2 Jig Green Beach )

T.31097 LIGHTENING AVRE Bobbin commanded by Lnc. Sgt. Gassap

T.32171C LOUGH NEAGH AVRE Fascine commanded by Lnc. Sgt. Bright

T172132 LOCH LEVEN AVRE Pusher commanded by Lnc. Sgt. Scaife


LCT 2027 ( lane 3 Jig Green Beach )

T.32159 LANCER AVRE Bobbin commanded by Lt. Grant

T172540 LOCH NESS AVRE Fascine commanded by Lnc. Cpl. Phillips

T.31381R LOCH LOMOND AVRE Pusher commanded by Lt. N.W. Green


LCT 2028 ( lane 4 Jig Green Beach )

T.67894 LIFEGUARD AVRE Bobbin commanded by Lt. Crofton

T.68079 LEVERET AVRE Fascine commanded by Lnc. Sgt. Pearson

T.68286 LYNX AVRE Fascine commanded by Lnc. Sgt. Gale


LCT 2029 ( lane 5 Jig Green Beach )

T.68309 LEVIATHAN AVRE Bobbin commanded by Lnc. Sgt. Tosh

T.67872 LEMUR AVRE Fascine commanded by Lnc. Sgt. Morgan


LCT 2030 ( lane 6 Jig Green Beach )

T.31409 LOYAL AVRE Bobbin commanded by Lnc. Sgt. Williams

T.32166C LEOPARD AVRE Fascine commanded by Lnc. Sgt. Manning


There appears to be two names missing one from LCT 2029 and the other from 2030. I have two other names T172424 LEGIONNAIRE and just the name of LION.

Can anyone confirm the WD serial for LION, their type and which LCT they were supposed to be landed from.

I hope the above also proves of some use to anyone working on a Cromwell Models AVRE or converting the AFV Club Churchill or waiting for an AVRE release.

Thanks for any additional advice or if anyone can add any names for 77th or 79th Squadrons.

Cheers

Kevin

















    
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Some More info

January 10 2009, 5:43 AM 

Morning Kevin.

Some more info I got during my AVRE build, apologies I can't remember who sent it to me - possibly you!!! Might be of interest to folks though:

AVRE on D Day
1st Assault Brigade, R.E., (-) Brigadier G.L. Watkinson aboard LCT (Serial 1413a)

Brigade Workshops Company, R.E.M.E.
Manned 12 ARV distributed to the various assault squadrons
149th Assault Park Squadron, RE
Manned 12 D-7 armored bulldozers distributed to the various assault squadrons.

Attached to I Corps:
5th Assault Regiment, R.E., Lieutenant-Colonel Cocks
Casualties to the regiment (including RHQ) as of D+4 were (Officers & OR) 8 & 16 KIA, 8 & 39 WIA, and 0 & 49 MIA. Of 81 AVRE embarked, as of D+4 53 were fit, 8 were in 2nd line repair, 16 were in 3rd line repair or written off, and 4 were missing.
SWORD Beach:
77th Squadron, Major K.du B. Ferguson
Strength (including detachment 22nd Dragoons) was 13 Officers & 186 OR, D-Day casualties were
2 Officers & 7 OR KIA, 3 Officers & 7 OR WIA, and 2 OR MIA
1 Troop (GREEN Gap, QUEEN RED Sector), D-Day casualties were 1 Officer & 1 OR KIA and 2 OR MIA:
LCT (Serial 112) 3 Flail (A, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Log Carpet and Porpoise),
1 AVRE (Assault Bridge), 1 AVRE (Bobbin), Captain G.C. McLennan (KIA),
Lieutenants C.J.P. Tennent (77th Squadron) and D. Knapp (22nd Dragoons)
2 Troop (YELLOW Gap, QUEEN RED Sector), D-Day casualties were 4 OR KIA and 6 OR WIA:
LCT (Serial 111) 2 Flail (A, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE, 1 AVRE (Log Carpet and Porpoise),
1 AVRE (Assault Bridge), 1 AVRE (Bobbin), Major Ferguson and Captain Low
LCT (Serial 110a) 2 Flail (A, 22nd Dragoons) 2 AVRE, 2 D7 Bulldozer, Captain Wheway and Lieutenant Sadler (22nd Dragoons)
3 Troop (BLUE Gap, QUEEN RED Sector), D-Day casualties were 1 OR KIA and 2 Officers & 2 OR WIA:
LCT (Serial 110) 3 Flail (A, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Log Carpet and Porpoise),
1 AVRE (Assault Bridge), 1 AVRE (Bobbin), Captain W.C.S. Carruthers (WIA) and Lieutenant I.C.B. Dickinson (WIA)
4 Troop (RED GAP, QUEEN RED Sector) D-Day casualties were 1 Officer & 1 OR KIA and 1 Officer WIA:
LCT (Serial 109) 2 Flail (A, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE, 1 AVRE (Log Carpet and Porpoise),
1 AVRE (Assault Bridge), 1 AVRE (Bobbin), Lieutenant-Colonel Cocks (KIA), Captain T. Fairie, Lieutenants J.G. Charlton (77th Squadron, WIA) and Robertson (22nd Dragoons)
Support:
LCT (A) (Serial 533) 2 D7 Bulldozer
LCT (A) (Serial 535) 1 Flail (A, 22nd Dragoons)
79th Squadron, Major J.G. Hanson
Strength (including detachment 22nd Dragoons) was 10 Officers & 169 OR, D-Day casualties were
2 Officers & 8 OR KIA, 3 Officers & 10 OR WIA, and 2 OR MIA
1 Troop (GREEN Gap, QUEEN WHITE Sector), D-Day casualties were 7 OR KIA:
LCT (Serial 113) 2 Flail (A, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE, 1 AVRE (Log Carpet and Porpoise),
1 AVRE (Assault Bridge), 1 AVRE (Bobbin), Major Hanson, Captain R.C. Cunningham,
Lieutenant V.W. Boal (22nd Dragoons)
2 Troop (YELLOW Gap, QUEEN WHITE Sector), D-Day casualties were 1 Officer KIA, 1 Officer &
3 OR WIA, and 2 OR MIA:
LCT (Serial 114) 3 Flail, (A, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Log Carpet and Porpoise),
1 AVRE (Assault Bridge), 1 AVRE (Bobbin), Captain G.C. Desanges (KIA), 2nd Lieutenant A.J. Nicholson (WIA)
3 Troop (BLUE Gap, QUEEN WHITE Sector), D-Day casualties were 1 Officer KIA, 1 Officer & 4 OR WIA:
LCT (Serial 114a) 2 Flail (A, 22nd Dragoons), 2 AVRE, 2 D7 Bulldozer, Captain W.M.B. Ayers (KIA)
LCT (Serial 115) 2 Flail 1 AVRE, 1 AVRE (Log Carpet and Porpoise), 1 AVRE (Assault Bridge),
1 AVRE (Bobbin), Lieutenant W.M.M. Hutchinson (WIA)
4 Troop (RED Gap, QUEEN WHITE Sector), D-Day casualties were 1 OR KIA, 1 Officer & 3 OR WIA:
LCT (Serial 116) 3 Flail (A, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Log Carpet and Porpoise),
1 AVRE (Assault Bridge), 1 AVRE (Bobbin), Captain E.B. Pollard (WIA), 2nd Lieutenant P.R.R.Phillips, Lieutenant Allen (22nd Dragoons)

Support:
LCT (A) (Serial 545) 2 D7 Bulldozer
LCT (A) (Serial 547) 1 AVRE
LCT (CB) (Serial 548) 1 Flail (A, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE
JUNO Beach:
26th Squadron, Major Younger (WIA)
Strength (including detachment 22nd Dragoons) was 11 Officers & 201 OR, except for Major Younger, no casualties were recorded for D-Day
1 Troop (GREEN Gap, MIKE GREEN Sector):
LCT (Serial 1018) 2 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Bobbin), 1 D7 Bulldozer,
1 ARV (Beach Recovery Section), Lieutenant Barraclough (22nd Dragoons)
LCT (Serial 1019) 1 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Fascine), 1 AVRE (Assault Bridge),
Captain Hewitt
2 Troop (YELLOW Gap, MIKE RED Sector):
LCT (Serial 1019a) 3 AVRE, 1 ARV (Beach Recovery Section), Lieutenant Sharp
LCT (Serial 1020) 1 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Plough), 1 AVRE (Sledge?), 1 D7 Bulldozer,
1 AVRE (Assault Bridge), Major Younger and Lieutenant Pratt
LCT (Serial 1021) 1 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE, 1 AVRE (Fascine), 1 AVRE (Assault Bridge), Captain Hendry
3 Troop (BLUE Gap, NAN GREEN Sector):
LCT (Serial 1022) 1 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Fascine), 1 AVRE (Log Carpet),
1 AVRE (Assault Bridge), Lieutenant Ash
LCT (Serial 1023) 1 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Bobbin), 1 AVRE, 1 AVRE (Sledge),
1 D7 Bulldozer, Captain Boase
LCT (Serial 1023a) 1 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Fascine), 2 AVRE, Lieutenant Shaw
(22nd Dragoons)
4 Troop (RED Gap, NAN GREEN Sector):
LCT (Serial 1024) 1 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Fascine), 1 AVRE (Log Carpet),
1 AVRE (Assault Bridge), Captain Mare
LCT (Serial 1025) 1 D7 Bulldozer (Porpoise), 1 AVRE (Fascine), 1 AVRE (Assault Bridge), Lieutenant David
80th Squadron, Major Wiltshire
Strength (including detachment 22nd Dragoons) was 11 Officers & 180 OR, D-Day casualties were
1 Officer & 1 OR KIA, 1 Officer and 6 OR WIA
1 Troop (GREEN Gap, NAN WHITE Sector), D-Day casualties were 1 OR KIA and 1 OR WIA:
LCT (Serial 1408) 1 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Log Carpet), 1 AVRE (Fascine),
1 AVRE (Assault Bridge), Lieutenant Saunders
LCT (Serial 1409) 1 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE, 1 AVRE (Fascine), 1 D7 Bulldozer, Lieutenant Oxtoby
LCT (Serial 1409a) 1 AVRE (Plough), 1 ARV (Beach Recovery Section), 1 D7 Bulldozer, Captain Tracy
2 Troop (YELLOW Gap, NAN WHITE Sector), D-Day casualties were 2 OR WIA:
LCT (Serial 1410) 2 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE, 1 AVRE (Fascine), Lieutenant Hammerton (22nd Dragoons)
LCT (Serial 1411) 1 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE, 1 AVRE (Fascine), 1 AVRE (Assault Bridge), Captain Grant
LCT (Serial 1412) 1 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE, 1 AVRE (Fascine), 1 AVRE (Assault Bridge), Captain Essery
3 Troop (BLUE Gap, NAN RED Sector), D-Day casualties were zero:
LCT (Serial 1413) 1 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE, 1 AVRE (Bobbin), 1 D7 Bulldozer, Lieutenant Gloyn
LCT (Serial 1413a) 2 ARV (Beach Recovery Section), 1 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 1 D7 Bulldozer, Major Wiltshire
4 Troop (GREEN Gap, NAN RED Sector), D-Day casualties were 1 Officer KIA and 1 Officer & 3 OR WIA:
LCT (Serial 1414) 2 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 2 AVRE, Lieutenants Hornby (80th Squadron, KIA) and Burbridge (22nd Dragoons)
LCT (Serial 1415) 1 Flail (B, 22nd Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Bobbin), 1 AVRE (Fascine),
1 AVRE (Assault Bridge), Captain Bellingham-Smith (WIA)
Attached to XXX Corps:
GOLD Beach:
6th Assault Regiment, R.E. (-), Casualties to the 81st and 82nd Squadrons as of D+ 2 were (Officers & OR) 1 & 2 KIA, 2 & 15 WIA, 0 & 5 MIA, 8 AVRE lost and 2 damaged.
81st Squadron, Major R.E. Thompstone, squadron rallied south of VER SUR MER after losing 4
AVRE, 2 to drowning and 2 blown up
KING GREEN, Major Sutton (OC, C Squadron, Westminster Dragoons)
Gap 1, Captain D.A. King:
LCT (Serial 2412) 2 Flail (C, Westminster Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Roly Poly), 1 AVRE (Bobbin),
1 AVRE (Fascine)
Gap 2, Lieutenant J.D. Darby:
LCT (Serial 2413) 2 Flail (C, Westminster Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Roly Poly), 1 AVRE (Bobbin),
1 AVRE (Fascine)
Gap 3, Captain T.W. Davis and Lieutenant E.H. Boulter:
LCT (Serial 2414) 2 Flail (C, Westminster Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Roly Poly), 1 AVRE (Bobbin),
1 AVRE (Fascine), 1 AVRE (Assault Bridge)
KING RED, Major Thompstone
Gap 4, Lieutenant J.C. Skelly:
LCT (Serial 2423) 2 Flail (C, Westminster Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Roly Poly), 1 AVRE (Bobbin),
1 AVRE (Fascine), 1 D4 Bulldozer
Gap 5, Major Thompstone and Captain T.F. Croxall:
LCT (Serial 2424) 2 Flail (C, Westminster Dragoons), 1 AVRE, 1 AVRE (Roly Poly),
1 AVRE (Bobbin), 1 AVRE (Fascine)
Gap 6, Captain J.M. Birkbeck:
LCT (Serial 2425) 2 Flail (C, Westminster Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Roly Poly), 1 AVRE (Bobbin),
1 AVRE (Fascine), 1 D7 Bulldozer
82nd Squadron, Major H.G.A. Elphinstone (KIA, Gap 2), squadron rallied at BUHOT after losing 4 AVRE, 3 to drowning and 1 overturned (82nd Sqn: 1 O & 1 OR KIA, 2 O & 3 OR WIA; B Sqn, W.Dgns: 4 OR WIA)
JIG GREEN West, Major Elphinstone
Gap 1, Captain K.M. Wilford:
LCT (Serial 2025) 2 Flail (B, Westminster Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Roly Poly), 1 AVRE (Bobbin),
1 AVRE (Fascine) (lead AVRE drowned, jamming the exit, remaining vehicles did not unload until 1330)
Gap 2, Major Elphinstone:
LCT (Serial 2027) 2 Flail (B, Westminster Dragoons), 1 AVRE, 1 AVRE (Roly Poly),
1 AVRE (Bobbin), 1 AVRE (Fascine) (two Flails bogged and one then knocked out by shellfire,
AVRE (Fascine) hit and overturned, AVRE (Roly Poly) mined)
Gap 3 Lieutenants S.V. Grant and N.W. Greene:
LCT (Serial 2026) 2 Flail (B, Westminster Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Roly Poly), 1 AVRE (Bobbin),
1 AVRE (Fascine) (one Flail mined, AVRE (Fascine) broke down)
JIG GREEN East, Captain Stannion (OC, B Squadron, Westminster Dragoons)
Gap 4, Captain J.M. Laytham and Lieutenant P. Crofton:
LCT (Serial 2028) 2 Flail (B, Westminster Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Roly Poly), 1 AVRE (Bobbin),
2 AVRE (Fascine) (both Flails bogged)
Gap 5, Lieutenant G.R. Ellis:
LCT (Serial 2029) 2 Flail (B, Westminster Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Roly Poly), 1 AVRE (Bobbin),
1 AVRE (Fascine) (one Flail hit by AT gun and burned out)
Gap 6, Captain P.J.B. Somerset:
LCT (Serial 2030) 2 Flail (B, Westminster Dragoons), 1 AVRE (Roly Poly), 1 AVRE (Bobbin),
1 AVRE (Fascine) (one Flail bogged)

On D-Day the actual availability of AVRE were SWORD Beach 34, JUNO Beach 47, and GOLD Beach 40, for a total of 121. This may be compared to the distribution as given in the Engineer Outline Plan (WO 205/1170) of SWORD Beach 30, JUNO Beach 28, and GOLD Beach 44, for a total of 102. In other words 19 more AVRE were actually landed than were originally planned. Furthermore, the original engineer plan called for arrival of the residue of 5th and 6th Assault Regiments by D+27 with an additional 104 AVRE and the arrival of the reserve 42nd Assault Regiment with 104 more on D+30 or later.



Cheers

Al

 
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It was me...

January 11 2009, 10:41 AM 

It was part of my research notes for "Cracking Hitler's Europe", which will be published by Stackpole this summer. happy.gif

Anyone have any photos they would like to share? happy.gif

Cheers!

 
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lifeguard & 26 assault squadron

January 10 2009, 10:48 AM 

Hi



Lifeguard 2F was driven by my farther E.J ORSBOURN 6353662 he joined 82 assault squadron around September 1944 before then was with 77 and prior to that 557 squadron.



He laid the last SBG at BREMVORDE 2 may 1945 where they were hit by a panzer Faust in the rear

there are some good pictures of 82 assault squadron in the tank museum including them making fascines etc prior to the Rhine crossing with brand new AVREs



THIS IS A PART OF A LETTER HE SENT TO ME ONCE BEFORE HE PASED AWAY . when I asked about his AVRE





well Michael with regards to the AVRE my Tank Lifeguard 2F had a Mk 4 turret we never removed anything other then the track covers front and rear , we covered the front breast of the tank with old tracks from German Tigers if we could get them , if not we used Churchill tracks. we hung then along the sides and on the turret we welded them around the turret up to each side of the stowage bin, then we hung tracks down from the top of the turret so that they were only welded at the top and could swing freely.

We always closed down when we went in to action up front. The Petard was never removed from the turret.

a scene that always comes to mind is the one when 2 troop 82 Assault squadron RE tried to pass through a Scotties Battalion at Appledorn in Holland to place as SBG over a flooded river .

they were entrenched in a large wood and as we approached to entre the wood the Scots COL with his RSM stood in the middle of the roadway , and in no uncertain terms told us that if we went any further the Germans would not need to blow us out of this world they would so we with drew.

One other scene I remember was at Goch in Germany when we went up into the town to blow away a wooden road block.

We fired the petard and the dustbin fell out of the petard, rolled down the front of the tank and lay in front of us.

You can guess we moved back fast.

J.E.Orsbourn





Reference 26 assault squadron nicknames

I asked general younger and Mr Platt and there driver and two others if 26 had any nicknames and have been told NO

ossie



    
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Great info Al and Ossie. All I need to do now is......

January 10 2009, 6:31 PM 

Match up the names and numbers I have for 22nd Dragoon Guards, numbers I have for 77th Assualt Sqn, names and numbers for un-identified 79th Armoured Division and numbers for 79th Assault Sqn to the beaches.

I think this will need another post.

Thanks for info guys.

Cheers
Kevin

 
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