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Is a USMC conversion from this...

November 28 2011 at 12:24 PM
  (Login FrankKranick)
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...http://tasca-modellismo.com/seihin/m4a2mid/sherman3mid.html ...

Do-able? It would seem easy to my eye and since the DML Tarawa kits seem in shorter supply than usual, seeing Tasca offering an M4A2 is great news.


Frank

 
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Yes

November 28 2011, 2:04 PM 

Looks to me that about all you need to do is --
1. Delete British Equipment. Substitute US radio antennae.
2. Substitute M54e1 Steel Chevron Tracks
3. Add 8 Jerry Can (Water type)rack to rear hull.
4. Add Archer Tarawa decals.
5. Don't know what is in the kit but the wheels should be the pressed type (6-spoke -- solid, no cutouts)
6. Don't know if it is in the kit, but Tarawa Sherman should include curved exhaust deflector.

 
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Re: Yes

November 28 2011, 2:31 PM 

Thanks, John. That's pretty much what I was thinking - details. If there's nothing 'structurally' different, a conversion is in my future. I'm about to use a DML M4A2 in a conversion to an M32B2 so my spares box will increase but I'll be short an M4A2 kit which I want to build.

And, since it's a Tasca kit, I know the features of the kit (having a M4A3E2), I'm looking forward to getting this kit.

 
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George Proulx
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Exhaust

November 28 2011, 2:36 PM 

Was the exhaust deflector type shroud typical on the tanks in combat or where they removed for some reason? I have pictures of the tank at Aberdeen and the deflector (if that is what it is called) is not fitted. Thanks, George


 
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Re: Exhaust

November 28 2011, 3:09 PM 

George -
I think I'm with you that the deflectors weren't fitted on M4A2s (AFAIK) like they were on the M4A3 - different exhausts. I'm probably going to plan an Iwo Jima M4A2 to boot; and with TWS's wading kit, the point is moot anyway. wink.gif

 
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Aberdeen M4A2 Exhaust

November 28 2011, 4:22 PM 

M4A2 exhaust

So I am to consider this as typical.

 
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M4A2s used three types of deflectors

November 28 2011, 7:44 PM 

There were two sheet metal and one armored steel designs.

KL




 
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More work than that

November 28 2011, 3:04 PM 

The USMC M4A2's had the welded driver's hoods, like these:
http://the.shadock.free.fr/Tanks_in_France/sherman_arromanches/index.html
http://the.shadock.free.fr/Tanks_in_France/sherman_ecouche/index.html


best regards,


Marc Brandes

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Ewwww...

November 28 2011, 3:25 PM 

...the dreaded "structural" issue I alluded to earlier. Too bad Tasca couldn't issue a USMC version first. sad.gif
Thanks for the heads-up on this. With that much surgery (I'm not THAT good), it'll be 'wait and see'.

 
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DV Hulls were also used by the USMC in Action

November 29 2011, 4:43 PM 

They also had DV hulls and used these at Roi Namur (and probably other places). That is of course before we get to the Late hulls. Not just Fabricated hoods were usehttp://www.network54.com/Forum/47208/thread/1268792008/Need+suggestions+for+M4A2+DV+hull+Sherman
Maybe you should get Tasca 35-017 Sherman III Direct Vision Type (w/early VVSS Suspension). This is why Shermans are such an interesting subject - so much new information all the time
Cheers
Al


    
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Welded Hoods....

November 28 2011, 7:34 PM 

Nope.... USMC M4A2s had welded drivers hoods Cheers Mark

 
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Sorry I missed that

November 28 2011, 8:14 PM 

That's what I get for trying to respond from work without my references.

 
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Pat Stansell
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Here's what you need:

November 28 2011, 8:09 PM 

For the deflector see here:

[linked image]

This is a component of this kit:

http://www.tasca-modellismo.com/seihin/m4a2mid/sherman3mid.html

Which would be a great place to start by adding this:

http://tigermodels.com/ProductListings/ProductDetails.php?ID=AR-0331

Make yourself a hyper-accurate Tarawa M4A2. Don't forget go bananas when you're done.

Pat
MMiR

 
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Ah-ha!

November 29 2011, 9:24 AM 

Much better! That seems to fit the bill. Completely forgot the aftermarket universe... For $20.00, it's money well-spent!

Frank

 
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Rather than the Tarawa, you could start with this...

November 29 2011, 10:47 AM 

http://store.spruebrothers.com/135-dragon-sherman-mk-iii-mid-production-sicily-6231-p14986.aspx

Dragon reworked the openings for the hood periscopes to a more correct design. You do have to fix the notch for the sand shields in the front of each sponson, but that is a minor fix.

[linked image]

Paul


    
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Re: Rather than the Tarawa, you could start with this...

November 29 2011, 4:24 PM 

Thanks, Paul. This option opens up possibilities on pricing, etc. as well as availability of kits. I may have to look into it as the tweaks you mention are small indeed!


Frank

 
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