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Modern AFV Discussion Group

The Modern AFV discussion group is hosted by Erik Gustavsson and covers the variety of AFVs used by all nations in the post WWII era.

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  1. M1 Assault Breacher Vehicle from Rye View Thread - Erik Liljegren on Feb 18, 2017, 9:41 AM
    1. I'm looking forward to this - Simon Hammerton on Feb 22, 2017, 7:38 PM
    2. Saw this a couple of months ago. I am a happy camper - Chris Aleong on Feb 22, 2017, 8:10 PM
     
  2. definitetly a good day => updates at PMMS New Kit News View Thread - Frank Lobitz on Feb 17, 2017, 10:09 AM
    1. That’s great news! One of my favorite sites. Just made a donation. - Mike Witous on Feb 17, 2017, 11:42 AM
     
  3. M48 With sandbag protection View Thread - Bas Slaats on Feb 17, 2017, 6:06 AM
    1. Fairly common - Steven Brown on Feb 17, 2017, 8:08 AM
      1. Not really common. - Gary Owsley on Feb 18, 2017, 1:52 AM
    2. Re: M48 With sandbag protection - Rob Gronovius on Feb 17, 2017, 9:57 AM
      1. Thanks all - Bas Slaats on Feb 17, 2017, 11:56 AM
        1. 2 more pics - Henri-Pierre Mas on Feb 18, 2017, 6:56 AM
          1. nice pictures - Bas Slaats on Feb 18, 2017, 4:22 PM
            1. 3-4 Cavalry 25th Infantry Division - John Charvat on Feb 18, 2017, 4:36 PM
            2. supposedly a Blackhorse tank - Rob Gronovius on Feb 24, 2017, 9:16 AM
    3. no Marine sandbags - George Proulx on Feb 18, 2017, 4:00 PM
      1. PSP armor - Henri-Pierre Mas on Feb 18, 2017, 5:31 PM
      2. Maybe not that you saw George. - Michael E. Mummey on Feb 19, 2017, 9:57 PM
        1. Good to know - Bas Slaats on Feb 20, 2017, 6:34 AM
          1. RVN = Republic of Viet Nam aka South Vietnam n/m - JMehner on Feb 20, 2017, 8:44 AM
            1. 👍 - Bas Slaats on Feb 20, 2017, 2:48 PM
      3. A quick Google back this up - Haydn Neal on Feb 23, 2017, 5:07 PM
     
  4. Greg Buechler Enterprises? View Thread - Dave Lueck on Feb 14, 2017, 9:20 PM
    1. Email - Lester Senn on Feb 15, 2017, 7:05 AM
    2. Greg Buechler - Peter Smith on Feb 17, 2017, 6:33 PM
      1. Metal barrels are available as a separate purchase - Jeffry Fontaine on Feb 18, 2017, 10:33 AM
        1. And I have a few left... - Greg Buechler on Feb 18, 2017, 1:05 PM
     
  5. Replacement (rubber!) tracks for Takom's Armata 1/35 View Thread - Peter H on Feb 13, 2017, 2:38 PM
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  7. NVA T55 AM B2 View Thread - ATelford on Feb 11, 2017, 11:51 AM
    1. NVA T-55 - Peter Smith on Feb 11, 2017, 6:18 PM
    2. In the '90s may have been a bit too late... - JMehner on Feb 11, 2017, 7:03 PM
    3. Wasn't there a Steven Zaloga build in MilMod - Haydn Neal on Feb 12, 2017, 6:18 AM
      1. Don't have to look too far.... - Gary Owsley on Feb 12, 2017, 10:54 PM
        1. That'd be the one ! - Haydn Neal on Feb 15, 2017, 5:19 AM
    4. Pic of origin - Frank Lobitz on Feb 13, 2017, 1:49 PM
      1. Re: Pic of origin - ATelford on Feb 16, 2017, 1:56 PM
        1. Not a single .... - Frank Lobitz on Feb 17, 2017, 11:05 AM
          1. Excellent.. - ATelford on Feb 19, 2017, 11:57 AM
     
  8. Modern Indian Armoured Corps insignia? View Thread - Steve Zaloga on Feb 10, 2017, 5:28 PM
    1. India Defence Forum - Florencio Baca on Feb 10, 2017, 7:53 PM
     
  9. T-34/100 question View Thread - Mark Aldrich on Feb 10, 2017, 9:43 AM
    1. T34-100 - Peter Smith on Feb 10, 2017, 9:44 PM
      1. Thanks - Mark Aldrich on Feb 11, 2017, 9:27 AM
        1. Wrong T-34/100! - Peter Smith on Feb 11, 2017, 6:31 PM
        2. Hull MG - Andrew deeley on Feb 12, 2017, 1:45 AM
    2. Thanks Again - Mark Aldrich on Feb 12, 2017, 6:56 AM
    3. egyptian t 34/100 - Tommy Vicard on Feb 14, 2017, 5:05 AM
      1. No email - Mark Aldrich on Feb 16, 2017, 4:25 PM
      2. THANKS!!! - Mark Aldrich on Feb 17, 2017, 11:00 AM
     
  10. APC Armor Vietnam Number 2 View Thread - Rob Morales on Feb 7, 2017, 9:24 PM
    1. There weren't any instructions. - Kurt Laughlin on Feb 7, 2017, 9:32 PM
      1. Odd that they didn't - Rob Morales on Feb 9, 2017, 1:46 PM
    2. Hi Rob......... - Dan Rosecrans on Feb 7, 2017, 10:59 PM
      1. Thanks! - Rob Morales on Feb 9, 2017, 1:44 PM
        1. Should be.......... - Dan Rosecrans on Feb 11, 2017, 11:00 AM
      2. Huh - Kurt Laughlin on Feb 9, 2017, 7:44 PM
        1. Armor In Vietnam book - Lester Senn on Feb 12, 2017, 8:15 PM
     
  11. 2S3 ammunition boxes? View Thread - Jordi Albir on Feb 7, 2017, 4:01 PM
    1. SKP... - Ryan Spindell on Feb 8, 2017, 7:39 AM
     
  12. texture AFV Club M60A1 / M60A3TTS View Thread - Luis Pitarch Carrion on Feb 7, 2017, 10:46 AM
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  14. Mig IDF Green. View Thread - John Bryce on Feb 4, 2017, 10:12 AM
    1. In general with - David Nickels on Feb 6, 2017, 6:12 PM
      1. Thanks for the reply David. - John Bryce on Feb 7, 2017, 6:21 AM
     
  15. Peddinghaus instructions View Thread - Anders Thim on Feb 4, 2017, 1:20 AM
    1. Decals - Andreas Kirchhoff on Feb 5, 2017, 5:07 PM
      1. Re:Decals. - Anders Thim on Feb 5, 2017, 9:51 PM
        1. Decals - Andreas Kirchhoff on Feb 6, 2017, 1:33 PM
          1. Decals - Anders Thim on Feb 6, 2017, 2:26 PM
          2. Re:Peddinghaus instructions - Anders Thim on Mar 11, 2017, 12:09 AM
     
  16. 1/35 Bungee Cords View Thread - Joe Bevans on Feb 3, 2017, 8:03 PM
    1. Bungees - Dave Foster on Feb 4, 2017, 3:42 PM
      1. Thanks - Joe Bevans on Feb 5, 2017, 3:15 AM
      2. Wow - Rob Morales on Feb 7, 2017, 4:37 PM
        1. Re Wow - Dave Foster on Feb 8, 2017, 2:10 PM
     
  17. FV432 Experts View Thread - Scott Dutton on Feb 3, 2017, 6:32 PM
    1. Help - John Harris on Feb 4, 2017, 4:35 AM
    2. For a Gulf war or BAOR model - Simon Barnes on Feb 4, 2017, 7:41 AM
    3. FV 432 - ossie orsbourn on Feb 4, 2017, 8:56 AM
      1. thanks - Scott Dutton on Feb 4, 2017, 6:47 PM
      2. thanks - Scott Dutton on Feb 4, 2017, 6:59 PM
        1. Re: thanks - John Stubley on Feb 4, 2017, 8:03 PM
    4. 432 Answers - Brian O'Donoghue on Feb 5, 2017, 11:54 AM
      1. Thanks Brian - Scott Dutton on Feb 7, 2017, 8:05 AM
     
  18. Nuremberg Toy Fair 2017 View Thread - Don Busack on Feb 1, 2017, 1:27 PM
    1. Good to see - Peter Stankiewicz on Feb 1, 2017, 5:44 PM
    2. Takom M47 and M47M! - Greg Sutton on Feb 1, 2017, 6:57 PM
      1. Soviet and Russian SAMs! - Roger Cockburn on Feb 2, 2017, 3:53 AM
        1. Thanks Roger! - Thomas Voigt on Feb 2, 2017, 10:44 AM
    3. Re: Nuremberg Toy Fair 2017 - Luis Pitarch Carrion on Feb 3, 2017, 3:37 AM
      1. Thanks ... - Gordon Fitz on Feb 3, 2017, 8:34 AM
    4. ERC90 by TM: YEAHHHH! - Stéphane HERVE on Feb 4, 2017, 4:55 AM
      1. Not yet a Sagaie though! n/t - Olivier Carneau on Feb 4, 2017, 3:38 PM
        1. Not yet a Sagaie though! n/t - Anders Thim on Feb 5, 2017, 11:29 AM
          1. Sagaie is also in their catalog, item #4631 [n/t] - Pawel "Vodnik" Krupowicz on Feb 5, 2017, 3:22 PM
            1. I noticed it later, good news n/t - Olivier Carneau on Feb 6, 2017, 11:23 AM
    5. Any other pictures besides Prime Portal? - Richard Isner on Feb 6, 2017, 8:34 PM
      1. TMN - Theo Braat on Feb 7, 2017, 7:32 AM
      2. Re: Any other pictures besides Prime Portal? - Yann Jouault on Feb 8, 2017, 6:16 AM
     
  19. Interesting Facebook page View Thread - Graeme Wear on Jan 31, 2017, 4:24 PM
    1. Re: Interesting Facebook page - John Stubley on Feb 1, 2017, 2:54 AM
      1. Happened on our side as well. - John Bryce on Feb 1, 2017, 9:39 AM
        1. Re: Happened on our side as well. - Joseph R. Zrodlowski on Feb 1, 2017, 11:14 PM
    2. Thanks... - Gordon Fitz on Feb 3, 2017, 8:33 AM
     
  20. Trumpeter 2S3, Early and Late...differences? View Thread - Jordi Albir on Jan 30, 2017, 7:24 PM
    1. Links via google - Miguel E. Mummey on Feb 1, 2017, 1:10 PM
      1. ..2S3 late in action? - Jordi Albir on Feb 1, 2017, 6:46 PM
        1. Late 2S3 in action. - Miguel E. Mummey on Feb 2, 2017, 11:37 AM
     
  21. Diehl 513 A and b - WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE View Thread - John Myszka on Jan 30, 2017, 5:08 AM
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  23. Bookled on "Feldberg 2016 (Training BFA)" View Thread - Julie Ludmann on Jan 29, 2017, 11:28 AM
    1. French only? - Erik Jan Eskes on Jan 31, 2017, 3:25 AM
      1. Re: French only? - Julie Ludmann on Feb 5, 2017, 10:37 AM
        1. Understood - Erik Jan Eskes on Feb 5, 2017, 11:53 AM
     
  24. IDF cam nets. View Thread - John Bryce on Jan 28, 2017, 3:15 PM
    1. IDF Camo nets - David Schemel on Jan 28, 2017, 7:41 PM
      1. Thanks David. - John Bryce on Jan 29, 2017, 4:24 AM
    2. Camoflauged Camo "net" - David Schemel on Jan 30, 2017, 12:41 PM
      1. See what you mean. - John Bryce on Jan 31, 2017, 4:21 AM
     
  25. T-10 kits View Thread - Owen R Auer on Jan 26, 2017, 10:37 PM
    1. Scroll down a little... - Gary Owsley on Jan 27, 2017, 5:20 AM
     
  26. wheels for M52 tractor View Thread - Gert Mons on Jan 26, 2017, 3:14 PM
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  28. LF Photos of Signage Used on Soviet Tank Training Ranges View Thread - Mike Roof on Jan 26, 2017, 2:07 PM
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  30. JS-7 with shorter muzzle brake. View Thread - Christophe Jacquemont on Jan 25, 2017, 9:59 AM
    1. one for you... - marco folin on Feb 5, 2017, 2:19 PM
      1. js 7 - marco folin on Feb 9, 2017, 12:04 PM
     
  31. These Trumpeter kits are not vaporware View Thread - Kurt Laughlin on Jan 24, 2017, 8:19 PM
    1. Which vendor? - Steven Brown on Jan 24, 2017, 9:01 PM
      1. Squadron - Kurt Laughlin on Jan 24, 2017, 11:50 PM
        1. squadron is the/a US importer for Trumpeter - David Nickels on Jan 28, 2017, 11:01 AM
    2. M270... - Gino P. Quintiliani on Jan 24, 2017, 9:43 PM
      1. German version - pascalbausset on Jan 25, 2017, 12:04 AM
        1. Not the same track ... - Gino P. Quintiliani on Jan 25, 2017, 7:55 AM
          1. n/t - Henri-Pierre Mas on Jan 27, 2017, 4:00 PM
      2. Box and track picture - pascalbausset on Jan 25, 2017, 12:10 AM
        1. T-161 tracks - Henri-Pierre Mas on Jan 27, 2017, 4:01 PM
        2. Interesting info - Chris Aleong on Feb 2, 2017, 5:13 PM
    3. Re: These Trumpeter kits are not vaporware - larry starling on Jan 25, 2017, 7:11 PM
      1. MSRP doesn't matter - Kurt Laughlin on Jan 25, 2017, 9:52 PM
     
  32. Paging Robert Manasherob View Thread - James Loomis on Jan 24, 2017, 7:38 PM
    1. Out of the city - Rober Manasherob on Jan 25, 2017, 1:12 AM
      1. All I need to know!!!! THANKS N/T - James Loomis on Jan 25, 2017, 1:48 AM
     
  33. Looking for info on Mack RM6866RS and Perentie LRPV View Thread - JMehner on Jan 23, 2017, 12:00 PM
    1. Mack truck - Henri-Pierre Mas on Jan 23, 2017, 2:46 PM
      1. Mille fois merci for the wrecker, the Flickr photos I did have. n/m - JMehner on Jan 23, 2017, 4:33 PM
    2. Try Aussie Modeller International for the Perentie. - Ley Reynolds on Jan 23, 2017, 11:48 PM
      1. Thanks, I looked there, but the Perentie photos are unavailable. n/m - JMehner on Jan 24, 2017, 8:01 AM
    3. Wheels & Tracks - Javier de Luelmo - Diesel on Jan 24, 2017, 5:03 AM
      1. Not in W&T - JMehner on Jan 24, 2017, 8:16 AM
        1. Ok - Javier de Luelmo - Diesel on Jan 24, 2017, 12:12 PM
          1. I agree - JMehner on Jan 24, 2017, 5:18 PM
     
  34. USMC Cougar 6x6 MRAP options...I'm lost... View Thread - Shane Gowan on Jan 22, 2017, 9:25 PM
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  36. AMX 10 RCR walkaround View Thread - Olivier Carneau on Jan 22, 2017, 12:30 PM
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  38. Modern US Army registration decals View Thread - Peter Schweisthal on Jan 22, 2017, 12:22 PM
    1. Echelon - Pawel "Vodnik" Krupowicz on Jan 23, 2017, 3:52 AM
      1. It's not the rectangle - - Peter Schweisthal on Jan 24, 2017, 10:37 AM
        1. You can paint the rectangle on a clear decal sheet and use it as a regular decal [n/t] - Pawel "Vodnik" Krupowicz on Jan 24, 2017, 4:39 PM
     
  39. Trumpeter T-62 1/35 kits...reviews...errors? Chechnya? View Thread - Jordi Albir on Jan 21, 2017, 2:38 PM
    1. The hull rear is a bit grim - Robert Lockie on Jan 21, 2017, 3:29 PM
     
  40. E.T. models BTR-60 wheels quality View Thread - Marc Brandes on Jan 21, 2017, 12:11 PM
    1. RE: - Rory Bailie on Jan 22, 2017, 1:24 AM
      1. Re: RE: - Marc Brandes on Jan 22, 2017, 6:53 AM
     
  41. Para markings at Suez 1956 View Thread - Chris Grove on Jan 20, 2017, 5:58 PM
    1. Para markings at Suez - Bill Scriven on Jan 21, 2017, 12:14 PM
      1. Para markings at Suez - John Hellinikakis on Jan 21, 2017, 2:58 PM
    2. Thanks guys - Chris Grove on Jan 21, 2017, 4:56 PM
      1. Thanks Guys - John Hellinikakis on Jan 22, 2017, 3:34 AM
      2. AoS markings - Bill Scriven on Jan 22, 2017, 12:48 PM
      3. Thanks again - Chris Grove on Jan 22, 2017, 2:38 PM
     
  42. T-90MS, Trumpeter or Tiger Models? View Thread - Geoff Steer on Jan 20, 2017, 5:42 PM
    1. Re: T-90MS, Trumpeter or Tiger Models? - Yann Jouault on Jan 21, 2017, 3:22 PM
      1. Thanks Yann, looks like TM for me! n/t - Geoff Steer on Jan 21, 2017, 5:09 PM
     
  43. Dragon doing a Lance missile Launcher View Thread - Scott Dimmick on Jan 20, 2017, 2:57 PM
    1. That's something you don't see every day. Now maybe - David Nickels on Jan 20, 2017, 4:34 PM
      1. Pershing Would Be Okay - Scott Taylor on Jan 20, 2017, 11:52 PM
        1. I'd go for an Honest John too - David Nickels on Jan 21, 2017, 12:29 PM
    2. What kits do they already have? - Michael Baker on Jan 25, 2017, 8:13 PM
    3. AFV Club - Mark Aldrich on Feb 2, 2017, 9:47 AM
     
  44. Will Dragon ever release their long announced T-54E1 View Thread - Greg Sutton on Jan 19, 2017, 10:55 PM
    1. Could have swore that.... - Scott Dimmick on Jan 20, 2017, 7:21 AM
      1. Seems like these companies only release kits when someone else does - Greg Sutton on Jan 20, 2017, 12:40 PM
        1. Still listed at as January release...n/t - Scott Dimmick on Jan 20, 2017, 3:01 PM
        2. Yep - Steven Brown on Jan 21, 2017, 9:45 AM
     
  45. Chieftain: U shaped rail measurements? View Thread - Thomas Voigt on Jan 18, 2017, 3:07 PM
    1. The channel section is about 1x1mm in 1/35 - Robert Lockie on Jan 18, 2017, 4:56 PM
      1. Meng - Pawel "Vodnik" Krupowicz on Jan 19, 2017, 12:46 AM
        1. Re: Meng - Thomas Voigt on Jan 19, 2017, 7:00 AM
    2. Measurements - ossie orsbourn on Jan 19, 2017, 1:47 PM
     
  46. USMC M113 used in Vietnam View Thread - John Shimek on Jan 18, 2017, 2:30 AM
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  48. New Limited Edition Hunnicutt Firepower Reprint View Thread - Sonny Butterworth on Jan 17, 2017, 5:32 PM
    1. Hunnicutt "reprints" - Peter Smith on Jan 17, 2017, 10:40 PM
    2. Bad news... - Pawel "Vodnik" Krupowicz on Jan 18, 2017, 12:36 AM
    3. Photos - Greg Sutton on Jan 18, 2017, 2:10 AM
     
  49. M1A2s in desert camo live fire in snow in Poland View Thread - Chris Evans on Jan 16, 2017, 10:59 PM
    1. Those boys look so cold .... - Cezar Bartnicki on Jan 17, 2017, 6:56 AM
     
  50. Takom FV 432 on Armorama View Thread - Marc Brandes on Jan 16, 2017, 1:07 PM
    1. Re: Takom FV 432 on Armorama - Ken Holland on Jan 16, 2017, 5:13 PM
    2. It's about darn time! - Steven Brown on Jan 16, 2017, 9:16 PM
    3. Now available for Pre-Order @LuckyModel for US$30.99 - Aaron Hutson on Jan 27, 2017, 3:17 AM
     
  51. Any news on AFV Club doing a M60 MBT? View Thread - Bob Carvo on Jan 15, 2017, 9:38 AM
    1. I hope so - Rob Gronovius on Jan 15, 2017, 11:50 AM
    2. No. n/t - Gary Owsley on Jan 15, 2017, 4:18 PM
    3. Re: Any news on AFV Club doing a M60 MBT? - Thomas Antonsen on Feb 28, 2017, 3:32 PM
     
  52. Unknown equipment on US Special Forces Toyota "Pickup" in Syria View Thread - Kurtis Tsang on Jan 15, 2017, 7:32 AM
    1. Storage? - Gino P. Quintiliani on Jan 15, 2017, 10:29 AM
    2. Re: Unknown equipment on US Special Forces Toyota "Pickup" in Syria - John Harris on Jan 15, 2017, 11:59 AM
      1. Orange Explosives Label - Gino P. Quintiliani on Jan 15, 2017, 3:49 PM
    3. info - Dan Reed on Jan 15, 2017, 12:32 PM
    4. FGM-148 Javelin? - Patrick Keenan on Jan 15, 2017, 6:16 PM
    5. SF Land Cruiser container is a Hellfire case - Peter Smith on Jan 15, 2017, 8:46 PM
      1. Since its SOF, it might be... - Graeme Davidson on Jan 16, 2017, 8:27 AM
        1. Thanks a lot ! - Kurtis Tsang on Jan 17, 2017, 7:55 PM
          1. AMMUNITION CONTAINERS - Kurtis Tsang on Jan 20, 2017, 11:31 AM
            1. Hellfire Containers - Peter Smith on Feb 1, 2017, 7:46 PM
     
  53. South African Olifant "Executioner" View Thread - Michael Karnowka on Jan 14, 2017, 10:45 AM
    1. Executioner Olifant - John Peto on Jan 16, 2017, 7:48 AM
      1. Thanks John! - Michael Karnowka on Jan 16, 2017, 12:29 PM
     
  54. Bezpieczna Polska - Opole 14.01.2017 View Thread - Jeff Hamblen on Jan 14, 2017, 9:40 AM
    1. Thanks for sharing ... - Olivier Carneau on Jan 14, 2017, 10:38 AM
      1. What type of Leopard II does Poland use? - Roger Cockburn on Jan 15, 2017, 3:59 AM
        1. 2A4 and 2A5 in use (Nt) - Michael Karnowka on Jan 15, 2017, 10:51 AM
          1. Leo - Roger Cockburn on Jan 18, 2017, 3:27 AM
     
  55. Austin Tilly in IDF service View Thread - filippo chessa on Jan 14, 2017, 6:21 AM
    1. Depends on if it would have been "in country" - Michael Baker on Jan 14, 2017, 2:43 PM
      1. Not likely - Michael Shackleton on Jan 15, 2017, 12:30 PM
        1. Oh what a pity. Many thanks! NT - filippo chessa on Jan 16, 2017, 8:31 AM
      2. Many thanks Michael for your advice! Ciao NT - filippo chessa on Jan 16, 2017, 8:30 AM
     
  56. Pictures ATMD Achzarit View Thread - Angel Baena on Jan 14, 2017, 2:37 AM
    1. AEF Design ATMD - George Bradford on Jan 14, 2017, 11:28 AM
    2. Achzarit ATMD, a.k.a. "Droid" - kylie newton on Jan 15, 2017, 1:48 AM
      1. Anti-ATGM system - Jim Carswell on Jan 15, 2017, 10:05 PM
        1. Thanks, Jim, you're right - kylie newton on Jan 16, 2017, 3:10 AM
    3. Thanks for all, guys. - Angl Baena on Jan 19, 2017, 5:40 AM
     
  57. 1/35th British Ferret series View Thread - Scott Woodward on Jan 13, 2017, 4:26 PM
    1. Re: 1/35th British Ferret series - John Stubley on Jan 13, 2017, 6:09 PM
    2. very good rumour - Graeme Davidson on Jan 13, 2017, 6:30 PM
     
  58. Cybermodeler has sprue shots of the Amusing Hobby Conqueror View Thread - Roger Cockburn on Jan 13, 2017, 3:47 AM
    1. Interesting - John Harris on Jan 13, 2017, 5:01 AM
      1. The suspension issue is not unique to these kits - Simon Hammerton on Jan 14, 2017, 4:54 AM
        1. something for everyone - David Nickels on Jan 15, 2017, 3:43 PM
          1. Not my experience - Simon Hammerton on Jan 16, 2017, 3:10 AM
            1. Plastic - David Nickels on Jan 16, 2017, 1:47 PM
              1. As I said - Simon Hammerton on Jan 17, 2017, 5:45 PM
          2. What do you mean by this remark - Alan Mckenzie on Jan 31, 2017, 3:59 PM
            1. just that - David Nickels on Feb 14, 2017, 6:11 PM
     
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