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Overview of T-72A models

May 1 2008 at 3:13 AM
  (Login dendirrek)
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Here is finally the overview of the T-72A and its export versions I promised you. Since the original thread moved to page 3 or 4, I decided to start a new one. I will not list the basic T-72 nor T-72B here since there don’t appear to be confusion about these models.

In general it’s actually quite simple. There are three main models: the T-72M, the T-72M1 and the T-72A (the latter however comes in some sub-versions). The first two were made for export and have only 4 KMT mounts, the T-72A series is always fitted with 8 mounts (except for command tanks) and has always the “Dolly Parton” turret. Here’s a listing of all the models with the original designators (obr.1978g = obrazets 1978 goda = model 1978).

T-72A (obr.1978g) [early production]
The early T-72A retains the hull armour of the basic T-72 (4 ribs in front of driver’s hatch) but has the uparmoured “Dolly Parton” turret with TPD-K1 sight unit. He was initially not fitted with smoke grenade launchers and was misidentified by NATO as T-72M.

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T-72A (obr.1979g) [standard production]


The standard T-72A is fitted with additional 16mm hull armour (3 ribs in front of driver); note the trapezium-shaped edge around the driver’s periscope. This hull armour is also found on the T-72B. This type got the NATO-code T-72 M1981/3 and was later misidentified as T-74/T-74M (when fitted with rubber side skirts and SGL’s), then T-72M1 until the right designator was known.

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T-72A (obr.1983g) [late production]


As standard production model but has anti-radiation lining on the turret roof and a 3rd stowage box on the left side of the turret (these items were later also mounted on some early T-72A’s and even basic T-72’s). Was initially misidentified as T-80.

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T-72A [rebuild]


Just like early T-64’s and T-80’s were fitted with the additional hull armour, so were some of the early T-72A’s. Because the armour plate was fitted after production, it has the same cut-outs around the towing eyes etc. (and two ribs) that you normally see on the T-72M1. It has however the eight KMT mounts and often other features that are not found on the export T-72M1, like anti-radiation lining and the 3rd stowage box.


Initially the T-72A – all before mentioned models – were not equipped with smoke grenade launchers (introduced from 1979), whereas the T-72M1 got those from the start. From 1984 some T-72A’s were fitted with Kontakt-1 reactive armour. They are often known as T-72AV although this is not an official designator.
Note that although the T-72A was not build for export outside the Soviet Union, in the 1990’s some A models were sold to Bulgaria, Macedonia and Hungary (sometimes under the designator T-72M1 but with all the T-72A features), as a result of the widespread downsizing of armed forces. Today the T-72A is still in service in the armies of most if not all CIS states.

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T-72M (obr.1980g)


The T-72M was only build for export, also under licence by ZŤS Martin in Slovakia and ZM “Bumar-Łabędy" S.A. in Poland. It has the hull and turret armour of the basic T-72. Early models had gill armour, handholds on the lower turret sides and no smoke grenade launchers. Confirmed users are/were Yugoslavia, Poland, Czech and Slovak Republics, East-Germany, Hungary, Iraq, Bulgaria and India. The T-72M is sometimes known as T-72G which might be the designator for the export version for non-WarPac states (there are actually three sub-versions of the T-72M with the respective industrial indexes Ob’yekt 172M-E2, -E3 and -E4). The initial NATO code was T-72 M1980/1. The M84 is the Yugoslavian variant with new fire control equipment. The T-72M was never delivered to Soviet units AFAIK, but Georgia received some former Czech army tanks in 2005.

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T-72M ["late production"]


This is a very rare Polish-made version, simply a T-72M with the T-72M1’s hull armour (and from the beginning fitted with rubber side skirts and SGL’s). The only confirmed user was East-Germany that received 23 tanks in 1986 and called them T-72M Übergangsversion (intermediate version). At least one tank however is used by US OPFOR units (Germany sold 27 T-72 series tanks to the US in 1993 and 5 to Sweden).
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T-72M1 (obr.1982g)


Export version of the T-72A (1979 model) with simplified NBC and fire control systems. Has only 4 KMT mounts (like the T-72M) and can therefore only use the KMT-6 but not the KMT-7. The 16mm glacis plate has cut-outs around the towing eyes and two ribs in front of driver. The T-72M1 is always equipped with type 902A smoke grenade launchers and rubber side skirts, but is never fitted with anti-radiation lining or the 3rd stowage box (except for a small number of Czech-made vehicles that were delivered to the Soviet army and were later slightly upgraded). Sub-variants are the Ob’yekt 172M-E5 and –E6. The T-72M1 was build under licence by Poland, Czechoslovakia and India (locally known as Ajeya and later equipped with additional stowage racks etc). Among other confirmed users are/were Algeria, East-Germany, Iraq, Libya, Bulgaria and Finland.
The M84A is the Yugoslavian variant with new fire control equipment. Other upgraded and modernised versions include the Czech T-72M4CZ, the Slovak Moderna series, the Polish PT-91 Twardy, the Indian Combat Improved Ajeya and the Romanian TR-125 (prototype only).


Sources:

1) http://www.zpsbumar.pl/MainPage.aspx?Sel=2008637&Nr=26>
2)
http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/title/T-72M1/p/232337#232337>
3)
http://disarmament.un.org/UN_REGISTER.nsf>
4) Boyeviye Mashiny Uralvagonzavoda. T-72 (S.V. Ustyantsev, D.G. Kolmakov) Media-Print
5) Janes’s Armour and Artillery 1993-1994, 2003-2004
6) Deutsche Militärfahrzeuge – Bundeswehr und NVA (L-R. Gau, J. Plate, J. Siegert), Motorbuch Verlag
7) Suomalaiset Panssarivaunut 1918-1997 (E. Muikku, J. Purhonen), Apali Oy
8) Obozreniye Otechestvennoj Bronyetankovoj Tekhniki 1905-1995 gg. (A.V. Karpenko) Nevskij Bastion
9) Soviet/Russian Armor and Artillery Design Practices: 1945 to Present (A.W. Hull, D.R. Markov, S.J. Zaloga) Darlington Productions
10) T-72, Soviet main battle tank (S.J. Zaloga) Concord 1004
11) T-64 and T-80 (S.J. Zaloga) Concord 1031
12) Defence Production Catalogue 2000, Slovak Republic, Magnet Press
13) T-72 Main Battle Tank 1974-1993 (S. Zaloga, P. Sarson), New Vanguard 6
14)
http://www.zts-tees.sk/T72M1eng.html


    
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Thank you very much...

May 1 2008, 4:14 AM 

Dirk,

Thank you very much for your very good overview my friend. For me all the confusion is gone.

Talk to you soon,

Alex


    
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Excellent reference............................

May 1 2008, 7:09 AM 

Can you just clear one thing up for me: In the description of the T-72 M1 you state it was "never fitted with anti-radiation lining or the 3rd stowage box" Which box exactly is the "3rd stowage box"?

TIA
Andy

 
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3rd stowage box

May 1 2008, 7:18 AM 

I'm glad that I could be of help. The 3rd stowage box is the one on the left side of the turret (normally there's only two: on the right and the rear side). Have a look at the picture of the 1983 model, there it's visible.

Dirk

 
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Thanks n/t

May 2 2008, 5:01 AM 


 
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Thanks Dirk

May 1 2008, 9:49 AM 

Glad to see you were able to finally get a account here.

Very nice synopsis of the T-72A series. I was going to bring up the T-72's that Bulgaria recieved with the Anti-rad cladding, but you covered that as well. Just about the single best source for understanding all the mess that is T-72 production.

My question to you would be what about rebuilds after 1992 or so...done by local users with thier own resources or were they to Soviet/Russian specifications? This is for rebuilds, not experiments or country specific upgrades.

The Tamiya kit seems to represent the rare East German T-72 sub-type. Is this correct? Is the barrel length effected in some way that woudl account for the incorrect length in the Tamiya kit (too short) or was it just a goof?

Also, do you have any hints at other special sub-types like the East German T-72"s? I would imagine that there must be more btu I have no proof.

 
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Re: Thanks Dirk

May 2 2008, 3:24 AM 

"My question to you would be what about rebuilds after 1992 or so...done by local users with thier own resources or were they to Soviet/Russian specifications? This is for rebuilds, not experiments or country specific upgrades."

I have no idea about rebuilds. You mean reverse-engineered? AFAIK the T-72 was only build in Russia, Poland, Slovakia and India. This was normally done to original specifications but one of my sources told me that there are minor internal differences between Soviet and licence-build models, for instance the electric wiring. I also read somewhere that the Indians had some problems with the locally-made barrels; apparently they blew up because of the inferior quality.

The only other differences I noticed are small country specific modifications, like the new smoke grenade launchers on Polish T-72M's, or the extra turret stowage box and the reflectors on Finnish T-72M1's.


"The Tamiya kit seems to represent the rare East German T-72 sub-type. Is this correct?"

I guess you missed my post in the old thread:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47209/message/1208596246/Mystery+solved


"Is the barrel length effected in some way that woudl account for the incorrect length in the Tamiya kit (too short) or was it just a goof?"

As far as I know, the barrels have all the same length. One thing that I could think of is that while transporting the tank, the driver bumped with his barrel into a wall or so and as a result the barrel was pushed slightly back and stayed in that position. So the tank does not have a short barrel, the ordnace simply is not in the correct working position.
But that is just a guess of course.


"Also, do you have any hints at other special sub-types like the East German T-72's? I would imagine that there must be more but I have no proof."

The only other exotic model I know of, from the top of my head, is the East-German basic T-72 (Ob.172M with optical range finder) that was locally fitted with the 16mm hull armour, side skirts and SGL's. Confusingly, the East-Germans called this model also T-72M. But that is also an upgrade of couse.

 
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Great post thanks!

May 5 2008, 8:13 AM 

Thanks for the elaborate round up Dirk,

I also followed the link to the final word on the base for the Tamiya kit. Thanks for that as well.

best regards,




Marc Brandes

 
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