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Dragon IDF TCM-20 Half-track - wrong war?

August 21 2017 at 11:44 AM
Michael Baker  (Login Saransk93)
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Without going into some of the minutia of Dragon's errors on this model, what I wonder is whether it should really be considered as a 1967 veteran.

I'm certainly glad there is a plastic model of this variation, and all the variations Dragon is doing, warts and all, but I have never seen the TCM-20 in any of the various resources I have about the 6-Day war. Is this more of a marketing concept than reality?

The SS-11 version was still in use then (there appear to be parade photos of them in both 1967 and 1968), and the 120mm mortar version was used on all fronts, but I have never seen the TCM-20 in any pictures from that period. I've only seen photos from the Yom-Kippur War (1973) and later.

If you want to do that period, I think you would have to ignore the directions and use the "solid" radiator grill front. In fact, I've never seen a picture of the TCM-20 with the original louvered grill.

Too bad you can't get the guns separately. Nor do I think Dragon will release the TCM-20 as a kit. If they did, you could also do the TCM-20 mounted in the BTR-152 used by the IDF.


Mike

 
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Christophe Jacquemont.
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What do you expect, their M60/ERA has 50th anniversary of six day war...

August 21 2017, 6:37 PM 

... on the box!

Cheers,

Christophe

 
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Lester Senn
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TCM 20 with louvered grille

August 21 2017, 10:45 PM 

Mike, there is a pic of a TCM 20 with a louvered grille and WW2 style combat headlights in Tom Gannon,s Israeli Half-tracks Vol 2 on the bottom of page 351. The lights in the kit I agree were only used with the solid plated over grille used with the diesel engine conversions. I agree that the TCM20 was not used in the Six Day War but was in 1973 and up.

 
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Peter Smith
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BTR-152 with TCM-20

August 22 2017, 9:35 PM 

I'm sure I read somewhere that this is a museum lash-up and not something that actually saw service. In any case, putting a Dragon-standard turret into the tired old Skif BTR-152 would be very much new wine into old bottles. By the time you've got some resin wheels, the Hobby Planet update set and an etch set it gets expensive: I'm up to £52 of parts already, and I only paid £10 for the kit and got the SKP wheels rather than the vastly expensive Hussar ones! But I suppose if Trumpeter ever turn their attention to the 152 - has to happen soon, surely - it'll cost £50+: and still need resin wheels.

 
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Gary Owsley
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BTR-152 is a bogus piece, but...

August 23 2017, 12:55 AM 

Chile uses it mounted in Piranhas.

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Several Central American countries use the towed version.

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Here's an interesting one with the 20MM on one side and an FN MAG on the other.

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Gary Owsley
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Here you go...

August 28 2017, 9:47 AM 

So you can say you've finally seen one.

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