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Sdkfz 222 in 1/72-1/76?

May 6 2004 at 7:57 PM
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Wondering if anyone knows of a manufacturer who makes a Sdkfz 222 a/c in plastic in either 1/72 or 1/76. Thanks, MK

 
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Airfix 1/76 is the easiest answer

May 6 2004, 8:29 PM 

This is by far one of the best kits of Airfix (late one, launched in 1974), it comes in the "German Reconnaissance set" together with Kubelwagen, also one of the best offerings of this vehicle in 1/76 scale.
At last but not least. Don't pay much attention what is the scale stated on the box (if any, it could be also simply HO/OO!), the kit is in 1/76.
HTH
Ilian
P.S. The kit number is 02312, the Recce set was recently reissued and I guess it wouldn't be hard to purchase it anywhere.

 
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Fujimi release Sdkfz 222 1/76th...

May 6 2004, 11:32 PM 

with military check point.
It is very old kit. So details are not good.
But basically, Form is very good.

I hear that Fujimi's kits are rare in Europa and US.
(And these are very high price in Europa and US.)

So I always recommend airfix's it to European and US modelers.

Kenji

 
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re nitto/fujima 222

May 7 2004, 3:51 AM 

the Nitto/Fujima kit has rubber tyres

 
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And...

May 7 2004, 9:53 AM 

wire netting hatch is very poor!
When I saw it for the first time, I nearly have a stroked

Kenji

 
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Not in plastic but fantastic

May 7 2004, 3:13 AM 


 
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Maybe fantastic but...

May 7 2004, 4:22 AM 

...why the wheels have this suspicious look (to me)? Lorenzo (and some of the rest people here), you know this is always the first thing I pay close attention to on any wheeled kit.
Such type of wheels were also used on 222s, perhaps, but the others (w/o lightening holes and with armor protected hub or without it either) are more typical, I think. I've never seen 221,222 or 223 picture with the wheels represented by Mars, though.
Any comments please?
TIA!
ilian

 
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Comparison of wheels

May 7 2004, 4:32 AM 


 
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Are those wheels original?

May 7 2004, 6:09 AM 

I can't recall ever seeing a wartime photograph showing other than the solid hubs and knowing Kubinka's (and other museums') tendency to replace missing parts with anything that looks vaguely correct, I am still dubious as to the appropriateness of these ones. Can anyone provide contemporary evidence for that type on a 222?

 
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Other pics

May 7 2004, 6:32 AM 


 
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Pics....

May 7 2004, 7:37 AM 

Beautiful photos of one of my favorite little vehicles. I've been waiting thirty years for some one to make an affordable one in 1/87 scale.

 
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Wartime spoked wheels

May 7 2004, 2:26 PM 


There is a photo in "German Armoured Cars of WW2"
by Milsom and Chamberlain that shows a '222 with
the same type wheels as on the Kubinka vehicle.
The rims look a lot like those on the '232 8-rad
and might have been fitted by a unit maintainence
company.

This book also has a copy of the '221 mit Spzb 41
photo referenced elsewhere in this thread. On the
'221 the rear rims have been mounted "inside-out"
almost as though the rear tires had been doubled.


 
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Lorenzo! Be serious, please!

May 7 2004, 8:02 AM 

Tell me at least one vehicle in Kubinka fully retained in its original form and you'll be awarded to your choice!
That's it.
Ilian

 
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Therefore MARS invented everything?

May 7 2004, 8:33 AM 

For which purpose, exactly? I know they have cubic meters of reference at MARS, is it possible they didn't know the correct shape of the wheels? Anyway I will ask them directly next week.

 
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Odd wheels on a 221

May 7 2004, 12:53 PM 

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waffen/Bilderseiten/panzerspahfahrzeuge-R.htm

Look at the Sd.Kfz. 221 with Panzerbüchse. It has some odd wheels.
Björn B

 
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Sd Kfz 221/222 wheels

May 7 2004, 4:34 PM 

Bjorn

That one has the same wheels as the one at Kubinka pictured above, with the rear wheels reversed as also mentioned. When I made mine (in the early 70s, and based on the original Eric Clark resin kit - predecessor of Milicast) I found that my references showed what is presumably the version with armoured hubs - sort of triangular shape with slightly rounded sides - as certainly pictured in Spielberger's 'Gepanzerte Radfahrzeuge' - so that is what I made!.

I guess that these cars mounted several different types of wheels over their period of production and service - not an unknown occurrence.

Chris

 
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Mars sdkfz 222/223

May 7 2004, 4:06 AM 

I bought the Mars 222 and 223 a while ago and am currently working on both of them. In the process I'm taking pics to make a construction review which I plan to sent to Doug 'On the way' for posting. It will probably take a while to finish since my modelling pace isn't that great...
Anyway, these Mars kits are not cheap but are beautifully detailed with lots of small parts. They are in my opinion better suited to the experienced (resin) modeller.

cheers
Jorrian D.

 
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Have Pics of the Arifix SdKfz 222

May 7 2004, 8:57 AM 

Hi all, are one of you have pics of a complete Airfix SdKfz 222?. I want to buy one of them, but like to see it first.
TIA

 
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Prior Thread

May 7 2004, 9:02 AM 

In a prior thread, someone posted pictures of an amazing 222 they did. Check them out by doing a search for 222 and you should hit it pretty easily. The modeller did some home made screens from reduced scale drawings. Haven't been able to find any scale drawings to try myself. With some details, I think the Airfix 222 can look great.
HTH

 
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Here is a link to my completed Airfix 222 (and "bucketwagon"

May 7 2004, 11:37 AM 


 
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Airfix SdKfz 222

May 7 2004, 10:13 AM 

One and All,

here is the link to the pics of the above mentioned kit Peter
is referring to in the previous post.

The kit was modelled by Mike Salzano of Brooklyn, N.Y.

It illustrates what can be done with an older kit and a little work.
Who needs Mars/Alby/ad nauseum resin kits with questionable detail.

enjoy

HTH

Andy

http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=110741&messageid=1080658510

 
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Thank...

May 7 2004, 10:49 AM 

you, and I have the same opinion. A venerable kit and a bit of work is the best for me. And in the other hand in Argentina (and in Tucuman in the north of the country, more)is very difficult to find kits in braile scale (and any other) and we take what we can. No mention on resin models, simply they not exist here. In a short time (I guess) I tried to post some of the work we do here.
Thanks again.

 
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Airfix Reconnaissance Set

May 7 2004, 10:42 AM 

Michael

The Sdkfz 222 in the Airfix Reconnaissance Set is your best bet although, if you want a really accurate model, you will have to add the turret screens (I think Milicast sells them) and the MG34 (if my memory is correct you will have to add the gunsight too).

As a bonus you get a reasonable Kubelwagen and three Afrika Korps figures that can be converted to represent troops from any theatre.

The Fujimi Sdkfz 222 is a more complete kit but the solid screens really don't look the part.

David

 
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Milicast doesn't sell the screens

May 7 2004, 12:35 PM 

I checked with them. Gordon at Scale Model Accessories had some that don't fit the Airfix kit as well as he liked, but I bought a few and glued them in the open position. To me, they look great. You may want to check with him to see if he still has some left.
Good Luck -- Peter

 
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Just in case you'd consider metal

May 7 2004, 6:17 PM 


 
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222 etch set

May 8 2004, 3:10 AM 

I do have some 222 etch sets left at special price it is a little bit small for the Aifix kit to have it closed but fits the Fujimi kit okay.
Check out my website at s-m-a@blueyonder.co.uk and turn to the special offers page.

 
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