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A couple of good questions, the second of which, I believe, goes right to the heart of this.
Without hunting back thru all the posts, I understand that it has not been established that Brown does in fact have the CC details. Ray has not confirmed that he gave Brown these details with respect to this transaction - why would he have - he paid cash, as evidenced by the receipt and witness?
So, if Brown does in fact have these details, it would seem either:
- He obtained these from Ray with respect to some other transaction with Ray, in which case his assertions are disingenuous at the very least, and reference to these details with respect to the transaction under discussion transaction may be of interest to his credit card acceptor (might be a bit naughty under their operating procedures, at the very least sloppy card security if he keeps these CC details lying around). These details shd not have been kept lying around, not this long. or;
- He obtained these details in some other way.
If Brown does in fact have these credit card details, and these were collected from Ray with respect to this transaction, then WHY ON EARTH DIDN'T HE JUST COMPLETE THE TRANSACTION???!!! Why has he held onto these details for so long after the transaction he failed to complete? If he couldn't deliver, why not just notify Ray then (2009!!!) and destroy the credit card details (I'm assuming here that the details were written down as a note and not on a proper voucher and run thru the system - which raises a whole lot of other issues)?
And again, why can he lay his hands on credit card details which he shouldn't have at this late stage, but can't find his duplicate receipt as previously pointed out.
So, Brown's defence appears to boils down to an assertion that he didn't take Ray's cash and didn't deliver on a binding contract (offer, acceptance, valuable consideration, yadda, yadda) because he took Ray's credit card details and didn't deliver on a binding contract (offer, acceptance, valuable consideration, yadda, yadda).
Either way, not a great advertisement.
But what is of great concern is his handling of credit card details. That should be really scary for anyone who's done business with him, whether or not he delivered the goods.
I for one am glad that these issues have been flushed out. Forewarned is forearmed.
This message has been edited by ModelStarter from IP address 18.104.22.168 on Feb 9, 2012 12:15 AM