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Badger AB recommendations...

November 4 2009 at 2:36 PM
  (Login otomyman)
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Looking into a new Airbrush. I realize there are tons of brands out there, but I have a 50% off coupon from Michaels. They seem to sell Badger.

From what I can tell, the models are:

250
175
350
150
155
200

Which of these is the best overall? I build WW2 axis and allied. I'd like one for a good overall single coverage (OD sherman) and one that also is good at very fine lines (german camo).

Those who have used these, which is the best overall? I have an old Aztek which works for overall coverage, but not so good at fine details. So,if one of these is best for fine details, I could operate 2 AB's.

Thanks,

Josh

 
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Badger

November 4 2009, 3:06 PM 

I like the 155 Anthem. I got one to replace my old 200. Seems to be a good general purpose unit. For fine work I have a Badger Sotar to replace my 150.

Jim

 
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Badger

November 4 2009, 3:40 PM 

I still like their old/classic style 200. Currently I have the new 200 but they still sell their old style and IMHO its better although more complicated.

I have had good luck with the 175 double action as well.


 
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Re: Badger AB recommendations...

November 4 2009, 3:47 PM 

I don't know anything about the 155 so I will defer to the previous post on that.

The 250 is a very basic sprayer, I really wouldn't recommend it for modelling.
The 350 is a good single action external mix AB that will give good overall coverage and handle thicker paints.
The 200 is a good single action internal mix AB and better than the 350, but mostly good for overall coverage. It comes with 3 needle/head assemblies.
The 150 is a good double action internal mix AB and like the 200 comes with 3 different needle/head assemblies. With the fine needle/head you can get fine lines which are useful for your camo schemes.

I've only seen the 175 but have no experience with it. It appears to be similar in design to the Paasche VL which would make it a double action internal mix AB like the 150.

Hope this helps.

Mike

 
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Badger recommendation: buy an Iwata

November 4 2009, 4:12 PM 

Skip the teen years and go to adulthood. Buy an Iwata -- I'm almost 100% certain that Hobby Lobby carries them. Fine control. Easy to clean.

No Badger will ever darken my door again.

Roy Chow
AMPS 1st Vice President
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Boo to you Mr Chow.

November 5 2009, 8:05 AM 

I still have my Old 35 plus year old Badger.

Granted I don't use it anymore but still have it and a passche also plus a Iwata brand new in the box.

So to you boo on cutting one down over another.

Cheers


PS
Best is this right here and at the same price as an Iwata.

http://precisiongermanairbrush.com/

Harder and Steenbeck.



Cheers
Jeff

 
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I was a little harsh, wasn't I?

November 5 2009, 9:33 AM 

I just love my Iwata so much over my old Badgers, that's all. Actually nowadays I'm playing around with a Harder & Steenbeck model and enjoying it as well.

Roy Chow
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Much Better Mr. Chow :-)

November 6 2009, 5:43 AM 

They all are similiar in use.

But remember even a $300.00 airbrush. does not make a painter.

Cheers
Jeff

 
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Nah, ;-)

November 5 2009, 4:40 PM 

These days I pretty much exclusively use a Paasche VL (Primer, base coats, and pre-shading) and an older Badger 100 (with the fine head and needle) for detail work.
The VL is rugged and very easy to clean and doesn't really seem to care what type paint you're putting through it.
The Badger is nicely made and will spray very fine clean lines to a band maybe and inch + wide.
Replacement parts are relatively inexpensive and very easy to come by (at least here in the Western United States).
It takes some work to keep completely clean but every internal mix AB I ever used did too, including the Iwatas. happy.gif
I keep a Badger 150 just in case I need to spray a lot of camou but don't use it often these days.

See, the Iwata is a lot like a Range Rover; pretty, expensive, but pricey to maintain and not really meant for serious work. wink.gif


Mark

 
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200 with fine needle & head

November 5 2009, 12:25 AM 

200 with fine needle & head and properly thinned paint will get you a tight enough demarcation for 1/35 scale AFV's.



GD

 
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make sure you get the 200 that can take a fine nozzle

November 5 2009, 8:51 AM 

Badger redesigned the 200 a little while ago and it now takes a universal single tip with just one needle and one nozzle type cone. The tip and needle arrangent are like that on the 175 or Paasche VL. This is now the standard Badger 200. It is sold as a "simplified" airbrush and supposedly the single needle and nozzle are easier to use than different sized parts for different applications.

They still sell the old style brush with Fine, Extra Fine, etc. tips and needles... its just not marketed as much as the new version. I think Badger calls it the 200 "Classic". It should be priced about the same as the new one.

You can not put the old needles and tips on the new style brush either... the forward body is just different, and obviously the whole head assembly is not the same.

 
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Nothing wrong with the Aztek...

November 5 2009, 11:50 AM 

I've been using it exclusively for years. With thin paint and low pressures, very fine lines can be produced. Sure, it is hard on the fingers to do that as there is no way to fix the trigger position once you get what you want. But is very inexpensive, incredibly easy to clean, and the tips are cheap to replace when they get worn.
Greg

 
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Thanks...

November 6 2009, 10:08 AM 

Gives me some ideas.

Josh

 
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