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Rich in Mich are you still making the shorter brakes for the CFX ? Expand Thread - JAG on Jul 4, 2009, 9:07 PM

Sorry no - Rich. from Mich. on Jul 4, 2009, 10:12 PM

Gamo Website... - Charles on Jul 5, 2009, 11:54 AM

Seems like they are selling more parts now.... - Lon on Jul 5, 2009, 12:38 PM

Gamo Recon Question Expand Thread - Charles on Jul 4, 2009, 1:11 PM

The Stutzen by Gamo. Rich in Mich, or Anyone. Expand Thread - george benson on Jul 4, 2009, 12:36 PM

I had one for a while...... - Jeff Marshall on Jul 4, 2009, 4:04 PM

Gamo's made in Spain & China Expand Thread - PinkMist on Jun 27, 2009, 2:47 PM

Re: Gamo's made in Spain & China - Chris on Jun 28, 2009, 9:38 AM

Whisper tuning parts options Expand Thread - Chris Fraser on Jun 23, 2009, 9:17 PM

3 words- Rich from Mich - PinkMist on Jun 23, 2009, 10:12 PM

I'll second Rich. - Jim in SWMO on Jun 23, 2009, 11:03 PM

CFX How long can you keep it cocked,,, Expand Thread - Skip on Jun 23, 2009, 7:23 PM

To be on the safe side, - PinkMist on Jun 23, 2009, 8:05 PM

Left cocked for 1 Week @ 24 hours a day avg. 2.2% loss of total power. - TnShooter on Jun 23, 2009, 11:12 PM

CFX .177 value? Expand Thread - Skip on Jun 23, 2009, 4:40 PM

How quick do you want to sell it? - Lon on Jun 23, 2009, 5:19 PM

Someone at work is interested. Thanks for the info - Skip on Jun 23, 2009, 7:10 PM

Steve in NC. Question about length of trigger travel. Expand Thread - Jim in SWMO on Jun 19, 2009, 10:52 AM

Interesting question, Jim. Unfortunately I don't have an answer handy. nt - Steve in NC on Jun 19, 2009, 9:35 PM

Model 68 from 1968 Expand Thread - Larry on Jun 14, 2009, 8:52 PM

It may need only regulat maintenance. - Lon on Jun 15, 2009, 1:45 AM

If it ain't broke..don't fix it. nt - Dave on Jun 15, 2009, 12:20 PM

You might want to find out if it has a leather piston seal - RedFeather on Jun 17, 2009, 10:59 PM

Overtravel adjustment screw for Gamos with GTX trigger? Expand Thread - Jim in SWMO on Jun 13, 2009, 6:48 PM

For a little more info... - Jim in SWMO on Jun 14, 2009, 12:44 PM

Update and more info - Jim in SWMO on Jun 17, 2009, 2:51 PM

Mini II vs GTX II Expand Thread - copotay on Jun 11, 2009, 10:18 AM

Both the Gamo inserts and the GTX work on exactly the same principle. - Steve in NC on Jun 11, 2009, 11:19 AM

I have used both... - Jim in SWMO on Jun 11, 2009, 11:26 AM

Don't forget the "bling" factor... - Lon on Jun 11, 2009, 12:41 PM

you're right Lon, - Jim in SWMO on Jun 11, 2009, 12:44 PM

Re: Mini II vs GTX II - copotay on Jun 11, 2009, 5:03 PM

Re: Mini II vs GTX II - Chris on Jun 11, 2009, 9:02 PM

Re: Mini II vs GTX II - copotay on Jun 12, 2009, 6:37 AM

Re: Mini II vs GTX II - Jim in SWMO on Jun 12, 2009, 8:15 AM

Re: Mini II vs GTX II - copotay on Jun 12, 2009, 9:55 AM

Re: Mini II vs GTX II - Jim in SWMO on Jun 12, 2009, 10:00 AM

Re: Mini II vs GTX II - copotay on Jun 12, 2009, 10:04 AM

By the way... - Jim in SWMO on Jun 12, 2009, 11:00 AM

Re: By the way... - copotay on Jun 12, 2009, 11:14 AM

Anybody ever had a hunter 1250 or the HE gas rammed??? Expand Thread - Bryan on Jun 7, 2009, 10:36 PM

Hunter 1250, Hunter extreme. - george benson on Jun 8, 2009, 11:48 PM

Re: Hunter 1250, Hunter extreme. - Chris on Jun 9, 2009, 7:26 AM

hey chris ..please keep us posted on that..... - bryan on Jun 9, 2009, 9:24 PM

Removing front sight Expand Thread - stepar on Jun 6, 2009, 7:38 PM

No heat just give it a few hits....... - Jeff on Jun 6, 2009, 9:16 PM

Super, that's what we'll try, then, thanks! nt - Stepar on Jun 6, 2009, 10:13 PM

Gamo model 300............ Expand Thread - Joe the Builder on Jun 6, 2009, 4:08 PM

300 - Larry on Jun 9, 2009, 8:35 PM

Pictures of Larrys rifle - Rich. from Mich. on Jun 10, 2009, 1:20 AM

Re: Pictures of Larrys rifle - RedFeather on Jun 10, 2009, 3:05 PM

Unknown Model "HELP" - Larry on Jun 10, 2009, 5:45 PM

Looks like ElGamo 68...nt. - ejwills on Jun 13, 2009, 8:13 PM

ElGamo300 - ejwills on Jun 13, 2009, 8:10 PM

Your Welcome...nt. - ejwills on Jun 15, 2009, 4:44 PM

Good Grief!!! Expand Thread - Randy on Jun 3, 2009, 5:40 PM

custom guide set - craig on Jun 3, 2009, 6:23 PM

re:Good Grief!!! - Randy on Jun 3, 2009, 6:41 PM

Rich in Mich is the guy for the stuff nt - Jeff on Jun 4, 2009, 12:06 AM

don't laugh, but... - jford2 (VA) on Jun 8, 2009, 12:59 PM

How does it hold up in the long run? nt - Jeff on Jun 9, 2009, 9:27 AM

only one out of eight, and it was my fault... - jford2 (VA) on Jun 10, 2009, 10:38 AM

I've thought about doing this... - Jim in SWMO on Jun 10, 2009, 11:44 AM

it doesn't move any if... - jford2 (VA) on Jun 10, 2009, 12:01 PM

Gamo Whisper - Randy on Jun 13, 2009, 9:36 PM

Give this a look. - Jim in SWMO on Jun 13, 2009, 10:01 PM

Gamo Whisper - Randy on Jun 13, 2009, 10:15 PM

Sorry bbgunbob had to edit. (Its OK BuyMyJunk) Expand Thread - bbgunbob on Jun 3, 2009, 8:21 AM

Any kosher way of letting people know about this? - RedFeather on Jun 4, 2009, 6:01 PM

No I breeched the subject once as a mod and had mine deleted too. - Mike in NC on Jun 6, 2009, 1:08 PM

Can anyone recommend a stock maker..... Expand Thread - Jeff on Jun 2, 2009, 7:26 PM

how bout this? - craig on Jun 2, 2009, 8:01 PM

Thanks...... - Jeff on Jun 3, 2009, 7:50 AM

if you find someone - craig on Jun 3, 2009, 7:52 AM

Steve Corcoran..... - Jeff on Jun 3, 2009, 9:42 PM

how expensive? - craig on Jun 4, 2009, 7:55 AM

Starting at $325 for........ - Jeff on Jun 4, 2009, 5:08 PM

my babies, Expand Thread - craig on Jun 2, 2009, 8:55 AM

Cool... - Lon on Jun 3, 2009, 12:31 AM

where did you - craig on Jun 3, 2009, 5:03 PM

I bought it from Gamo... - Lon on Jun 3, 2009, 6:42 PM

Anyone using the UTG 11mm to Weaver adapter... Expand Thread - Jim in SWMO on May 26, 2009, 7:18 AM

it's two inches - craig on May 26, 2009, 7:48 AM

Not the combination I was looking for but,... - Jim in SWMO on May 26, 2009, 11:33 AM

try this - craig on May 26, 2009, 2:29 PM

I thought about that... - Jim in SWMO on May 26, 2009, 2:44 PM

help with CFX foresight removal Expand Thread - Ron on May 25, 2009, 8:41 PM

sight - Rich. from Mich. on May 25, 2009, 11:41 PM

thanks for the quick response - Ron on May 26, 2009, 6:15 PM

problem with my p-23 Expand Thread - Cody on May 24, 2009, 10:03 PM

Fixed it - Cody on May 26, 2009, 9:12 PM

CFX velocity Expand Thread - Tom w on May 23, 2009, 8:16 AM

depends on - craig on May 23, 2009, 10:15 AM

Assuming it's a .177... - Lon on May 23, 2009, 11:25 AM

RWS super dome - tom w on May 23, 2009, 4:42 PM

i have noticed - craig on May 23, 2009, 4:51 PM

My stock CFX produces - Fred S. on May 28, 2009, 12:31 AM

Question about Gamo factory trigger blade. Expand Thread - Jim in SWMO on May 21, 2009, 12:03 PM

trigger blade - Rich. from Mich. on May 21, 2009, 6:23 PM

No longer puzzled. - Jim in SWMO on May 21, 2009, 6:56 PM

Is the CFX any good? Expand Thread - DAN O/Daniel O'Malley on May 21, 2009, 8:22 AM

I think they are nice guns. I've been told by a very reliable source that's it - Mike in NC on May 21, 2009, 8:59 AM

They are one of the better Gamo's IMO. - Lon on May 21, 2009, 9:33 AM

THANKS GUYS. nt - DAN O/Daniel O'Malley on May 21, 2009, 10:35 AM

So good that..... - E. Ortiz on May 21, 2009, 6:51 PM

Re: So good that..... - tsab on May 22, 2009, 5:18 AM

CFX is the one - PinkMist on May 22, 2009, 9:16 PM

I like em - Bob Jarrard on May 23, 2009, 10:08 PM

Not everyone - TCWriter on Jul 5, 2009, 5:08 PM

GTX where do you get them? Expand Thread - andy on May 20, 2009, 9:51 PM

Try AoA - Jim in SWMO on May 20, 2009, 9:57 PM

Jim's correct. - Steve in NC on May 20, 2009, 10:06 PM

It seems our old friend Bomont is finally out of the closet. Expand Thread - Steve in NC on May 20, 2009, 9:44 PM

Could just... - Jim in SWMO on May 20, 2009, 10:01 PM

Either way it's a lie. nt - Steve in NC on May 20, 2009, 10:05 PM

Steve, I'm shocked... - Lon on May 21, 2009, 12:43 AM

Any remaining uncertainty has been resolved... - Steve in NC on May 21, 2009, 12:18 PM

payed to steal.............pretty good deal.........LOL - anonymous on May 21, 2009, 12:46 PM

You're right. And even if you believed every single word that Bomont himself has said... - Steve in NC on May 21, 2009, 1:02 PM

He did say that pic was 1 -1/2 years old. if that means anything. - DAN O/Daniel O'Malley on May 21, 2009, 8:18 AM

Since "Bomont" has claimed to have stopped making triggers THREE years ago... - Steve in NC on May 21, 2009, 8:56 AM

Maybe you know who stuck Bomont with triggers like he did with the HDD. Possible? I think - Mike in NC on May 21, 2009, 9:00 AM

Isn't it more likely that Bomont was more than happy to be "stuck" - Steve in NC on May 21, 2009, 9:32 AM

TSAB, Where have you been? Expand Thread - PinkMist on May 20, 2009, 5:28 PM

Re: TSAB, Where have you been? - tsab on May 22, 2009, 5:21 AM

Where could I buy a replacement recoil pad for a gamo? Expand Thread - brainshot on May 20, 2009, 3:07 PM

Then probably... - Lon on May 21, 2009, 12:45 AM

The Crosman Quest pad might fit - it's certainly very cheap. nt - Steve in NC on May 21, 2009, 12:40 PM

Which Gamo ? - E. Ortiz on May 22, 2009, 11:42 PM

Fellow let's get real. I liked this title and stole it from another forum. Expand Thread - Mike in NC on May 20, 2009, 6:23 AM

I saw that, too. - Jim in SWMO on May 20, 2009, 7:14 AM

LOL! You nailed it, Jim. For ANY modification of ANYthing to be able to IMPROVE... - Steve in NC on May 20, 2009, 12:12 PM

Didn't you find - Mike in NC on May 20, 2009, 5:28 PM

I think what you may be remembering, Mike,... - Jim in SWMO on May 21, 2009, 8:51 AM

That's it. Thank you. I needed a refresher. nt - Mike in NC on May 21, 2009, 8:55 AM

Good discussion on the main about 2 stage triggers. Expand Thread - Jim in SWMO on May 19, 2009, 4:38 PM

exellent! - craig on May 20, 2009, 7:55 AM

I'd love to have double set triggers... - Jim in SWMO on May 20, 2009, 9:16 AM

how many of you guys Expand Thread - craig on May 19, 2009, 3:55 PM

I dig the color! - Jim in SWMO on May 19, 2009, 4:13 PM

their doin 975 in my - craig on May 19, 2009, 4:21 PM

Myself, I think they're.... - Jim in SWMO on May 19, 2009, 4:32 PM

i don't buy that - craig on May 19, 2009, 4:36 PM

i know everyone thinks your a quack - craig on May 19, 2009, 4:45 PM

Good luck with... - Jim in SWMO on May 19, 2009, 4:57 PM

i agree with that......................n/t - craig on May 19, 2009, 5:00 PM

spring for gamo 890 Expand Thread - ron on May 18, 2009, 9:37 PM

i would - craig on May 18, 2009, 9:45 PM

where - ron on May 18, 2009, 9:50 PM

http://www.airguns.citymax.com/page/page/251327.htm - craig on May 18, 2009, 9:52 PM

Re: where - Jude on May 18, 2009, 9:57 PM

Re: spring for gamo 890 - Jude on May 18, 2009, 9:47 PM

Re: spring for gamo 890 - craig on May 18, 2009, 9:51 PM

Re: spring for gamo 890 - Jude on May 18, 2009, 9:55 PM

Contact Rich - Jim in SWMO on May 18, 2009, 10:48 PM

Steve, GTX info needed. Expand Thread - Jim in SWMO on May 18, 2009, 9:18 PM

I think you're right, Jim. The B3 isn't a Chinamo. nt - Steve in NC on May 18, 2009, 10:26 PM

LOL!....Thanks Steve - Jim in SWMO on May 18, 2009, 10:38 PM

S1K spring in a Hunter 440 Expand Thread - craig on May 18, 2009, 3:32 PM

Got guide? - Lon on May 18, 2009, 4:32 PM

Re: Got guide? - craig on May 18, 2009, 4:46 PM

Re: Got guide? - Jim in SWMO on May 18, 2009, 5:32 PM

ya gotta love the thunk.....n/t - craig on May 18, 2009, 5:34 PM

Got that right!...n/t - Jim in SWMO on May 18, 2009, 5:37 PM

I have a similar setup... - Lon on May 19, 2009, 12:54 AM

a nice 440 stock........sexy....n/t - craig on May 19, 2009, 7:34 AM

Besides having... - Jim in SWMO on May 19, 2009, 12:45 PM

here is a Expand Thread - craig on May 18, 2009, 1:26 PM

Good work. Nice and clear. - Jim in SWMO on May 18, 2009, 1:38 PM

it's a snoop dogg thing, - craig on May 18, 2009, 1:42 PM

LOL......n/t - Jim in SWMO on May 18, 2009, 1:44 PM

Why couldn't it be raining again? Expand Thread - Jim in SWMO on May 17, 2009, 2:22 PM

Re: Why couldn't it be raining again? - craig on May 17, 2009, 3:04 PM

Thanks... - Jim in SWMO on May 17, 2009, 3:17 PM

If you had the ultimate tune on a Gamo rifle, Expand Thread - PinkMist on May 17, 2009, 1:43 AM

Re: If you had the ultimate tune on a Gamo rifle, - budkole on May 17, 2009, 9:21 AM

Re: If you had the ultimate tune on a Gamo rifle, - craig on May 17, 2009, 9:30 AM

Re: If you had the ultimate tune on a Gamo rifle, - Chris on May 17, 2009, 9:31 AM

Ultimate Gamo.... - Ray on May 17, 2009, 12:27 PM

I like the CFX and the 220/440... - Lon on May 17, 2009, 12:31 PM

Well that all depends... - Andy on May 17, 2009, 9:31 PM

Re: If you had the ultimate tune on a Gamo rifle, - Jim in SWMO on May 18, 2009, 11:45 AM

sorry, i didn't know - craig on May 18, 2009, 12:38 PM

Craig, that's a good question. - Jim in SWMO on May 18, 2009, 1:17 PM

yup, - craig on May 18, 2009, 1:24 PM

Wood stock for a Big Cat Expand Thread - Jim in SWMO on May 16, 2009, 4:19 PM

What?!? An actual post about about airguns instead of politics? How'd THAT slip thru? - Steve in NC on May 16, 2009, 6:15 PM

i know, i may have to open a new site just for politicin....n/t - craig on May 16, 2009, 6:19 PM

LOL!! Caught ya sleepin'! - Jim in SWMO on May 16, 2009, 6:25 PM

here is the goings on at the "other Forum" Expand Thread - craig on May 16, 2009, 2:47 PM

Yep, that's what I saw this morning. - Jim in SWMO on May 16, 2009, 4:01 PM

not yet, they won't - craig on May 16, 2009, 4:07 PM

Craig, if this jumps... - Jim in SWMO on May 16, 2009, 5:30 PM

i don't see this going anywhere. - craig on May 16, 2009, 5:33 PM

Ok. Thanks n/t - Jim in SWMO on May 16, 2009, 5:48 PM

Re: Ok. Thanks n/t - Chris on May 17, 2009, 8:03 AM

ok so now the gloves come off Expand Thread - craig on May 16, 2009, 12:15 PM

Uh-Oh. - Steve in NC on May 16, 2009, 12:31 PM

why won't someone from - craig on May 16, 2009, 12:36 PM

They can't - Jeff on May 16, 2009, 12:38 PM

they can contact me at www.airgunone.com - craig on May 16, 2009, 12:46 PM

Apparently by "re-designing"... - Jim in SWMO on May 16, 2009, 12:51 PM

usually one designs something - craig on May 16, 2009, 12:55 PM

For what it's worth, I think you're 100% right. n/t - Jim in SWMO on May 16, 2009, 1:02 PM

or @ craigtuned@craigfperry.com - craig on May 16, 2009, 12:57 PM

Not true. The rules of discussion here were clearly spelled out... - Steve in NC on May 16, 2009, 12:58 PM

You have to remember thought that most of them bit the dust over here and got - Mike in NC on May 16, 2009, 4:45 PM

True - but judging from what's been said "over there," entirely academic. - Steve in NC on May 16, 2009, 5:57 PM

They'll have to do it on your forum. nt - Mike in NC on May 16, 2009, 4:41 PM

roger that....n/t - craig on May 16, 2009, 4:45 PM

How so? Why can't they do it on THEIR forum? nt - Steve in NC on May 16, 2009, 5:57 PM

Cause they can't or won't and when people like me ask simple little question we go poof - Mike in NC on May 16, 2009, 6:12 PM

I will speak up! (get ready to have it removed) - chuckm on Jun 1, 2009, 1:36 PM

How's this for hiding the truth? Expand Thread - Jim in SWMO on May 15, 2009, 2:48 PM

Yep, I saw that too! and then I didn't LOL! - DAN O/Daniel O'Malley on May 15, 2009, 3:36 PM

LMAO!!! That was you... - Jim in SWMO on May 15, 2009, 4:13 PM

Thanks to Dan, I saw that thread too. The funniest part wasn't so much... - Steve in NC on May 15, 2009, 4:59 PM

Hey, Steve. Got a question for you. - Jim in SWMO on May 15, 2009, 5:20 PM

Actually, Jim, I think it was our own Mike-in-NC who found that... - Steve in NC on May 15, 2009, 5:27 PM

I'm glad you missed that memo!! - Jim in SWMO on May 15, 2009, 5:38 PM

"they" can delete all the posts they want - craig on May 15, 2009, 8:27 PM

I agree Craig. - Jim in SWMO on May 15, 2009, 9:05 PM

well - craig on May 15, 2009, 9:23 PM

That's a good thought. Unfortunately... - Jim in SWMO on May 15, 2009, 9:43 PM

that is why i am - craig on May 15, 2009, 9:50 PM

Yeah, I've noticed... - Jim in SWMO on May 15, 2009, 10:02 PM

Re: Yeah, I've noticed... - Chris on May 16, 2009, 7:13 AM

I guess I was fortunate... - Jim in SWMO on May 16, 2009, 10:47 AM

I wonder too, Jim. But I suspect there's a third group, larger than the two... - Steve in NC on May 15, 2009, 9:48 PM

You're right. - Jim in SWMO on May 15, 2009, 9:58 PM

Another one about to bite the dust! - Jim in SWMO on May 16, 2009, 11:25 AM

Oh, somehow I don't think that "poor soul" will feel very punished... - Steve in NC on May 16, 2009, 11:55 AM

Re: Oh, somehow I don't think that "poor soul" will feel very punished... - craig on May 16, 2009, 12:07 PM

You're probably right - Jim in SWMO on May 16, 2009, 12:12 PM

for those with the "other trigger" Expand Thread - craig on May 13, 2009, 10:16 PM

Re: for those with the "other trigger" - Chris on May 14, 2009, 8:40 PM

Re: for those with the "other trigger" - craig on May 14, 2009, 11:12 PM

Thanks for posting that, already did most of it. - Revwarnut on May 15, 2009, 12:44 AM

Good question, Chris. I wouldn't like wasting $30+ either. Craig's solutioin is... - Steve in NC on May 15, 2009, 9:29 AM

i didn't know "he" was giving refunds. - craig on May 15, 2009, 9:50 AM

If someone does try it, I hope they post about the experience, whichever way... - Steve in NC on May 15, 2009, 10:37 AM

i have the other trigger - papagrande on May 16, 2009, 7:19 PM

Re: i have the other trigger - craig on May 16, 2009, 8:08 PM

Did you read Craig's post, Chris? No matter how "real smooth" your trigger may be... - Steve in NC on May 16, 2009, 9:41 PM

I understand what your both saying - papagrande on May 17, 2009, 7:45 AM

Re: I understand what your both saying - craig on May 17, 2009, 8:38 AM

Well, Chris, you might be right. nt - Steve in NC on May 17, 2009, 12:02 PM

Your right steve i haven't tried to do any of those things - papagrande on May 17, 2009, 9:16 PM

Big Cat stock interchangeability Expand Thread - Andy on May 13, 2009, 6:13 AM

Re: Big Cat stock interchangeability - tsab on May 15, 2009, 5:20 AM

Gamo stocks - Randy on Jun 17, 2009, 10:07 PM

Re: Gamo stocks - tsab on Jul 4, 2009, 9:38 AM

Gamo parts - Randy on Jul 5, 2009, 9:34 PM

Gamo Compact Seals Expand Thread - Monty on May 11, 2009, 9:15 PM

My AF10 had a similar problem - Jim in PGH on May 12, 2009, 8:07 AM

Replaced with o-ring from plumbing supply - Monty on May 21, 2009, 9:11 PM

Meet the TERMINATOR. .25 cal1250 Ultra Magnum. Expand Thread - Chris on May 9, 2009, 3:33 PM

Another nice one. - Lon on May 9, 2009, 5:09 PM

Re: Another nice one. - Chris on May 9, 2009, 5:20 PM

Nice looking shooter. - Jim in SWMO on May 9, 2009, 5:34 PM

what kind of a gun is that???? - bryan on May 10, 2009, 1:18 PM

Can't wait forbtue comparison chris... Keep us posted... - Bryan on May 10, 2009, 5:13 PM

A statement here amuses me :) hits as hard as some PCP - Glover, Walter on May 14, 2009, 9:25 PM

Kind of gun? - Ray on May 17, 2009, 12:45 PM

whisper scopes Expand Thread - woodro on May 8, 2009, 3:03 PM

Re: whisper scopes - Dave Ennis on May 8, 2009, 8:22 PM

Re: whisper scopes - woodro on May 10, 2009, 10:12 AM

funny you mention that - Christopher Pasek on May 10, 2009, 10:09 AM

socom? Expand Thread - run n gun on May 7, 2009, 11:29 PM

So what is the latest news regarding the Predator pellets? Expand Thread - Glover, Walter on May 7, 2009, 3:53 PM

Do you mean the infringement thing of the Gamo plastic-tip... - Steve in NC on May 7, 2009, 4:50 PM

Yes, what I find curious is the lack of exposure and outrage over here - Glover, Walter on May 7, 2009, 4:53 PM

If you mean you think it's curious that Tom May doesn't present his case here... - Steve in NC on May 7, 2009, 5:27 PM

Gamo Hunter pellets and a once in a lifetime group Expand Thread - jon on May 5, 2009, 1:09 AM

Shadow Black Hunter Expand Thread - ILDE on May 4, 2009, 5:08 PM

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