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for those with the "other trigger"

May 13 2009 at 10:16 PM

  (Login craigfperry)
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so now that i have had time to mess with both triggers i noticed a very distinct similarity in both sets of adjustment instructions, they both tell you to start your adjustment with the adjustment screws in the same place.(one thread on the secondary and four on the primary)
the thing is Steves set of instructions work and the other set does not seem to work?
and it is easy to see why, if you look at both triggers with the screws set this way you can see that the other trigger is nowhere near close to being close.
so for those instructions to say you should not have to adjust the trigger at all baffles me because i can't see how that is.
i'm glad i figured it out because i have four of the other triggers and after using the GTX i thought i would be using the "other triggers" to dock my butts out on.
so if you can't hold inbetween stages for as long as you need to aquire your target then you need to adjust the primary screw to show 7- 8 threads and the secondary to show 3-4 threads and polish the tips of both screws and i would polish the intermediate lever and the sear bar as well as streching the spring behind the primary screw so that enough resistance can be felt then start adjusting from there according to the instructions.
so there it is that's how you make the other trigger work as good as the GTX.
anyone who needs help with this or has any questions can contact me here
http://www.craigfperry.com/blog/


    
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Chris
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Re: for those with the "other trigger"

May 14 2009, 8:40 PM 

Craig why bother using the copy cat trigger . Use the Original and be done with it !

 
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Re: for those with the "other trigger"

May 14 2009, 11:12 PM 

because i have four of them and other people have them.
it's nice to have them work right.

 
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Revwarnut
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Thanks for posting that, already did most of it.

May 15 2009, 12:44 AM 

I have the "other" trigger too, and it now works well for me, but I did have to remove the screws and polish the tips to get it to work with no "grittyness" during the pull.  It was still yards above the original Gamo, so I did not notice the problem until i had used it for a while.  I wasn't quite sure what to do about it until I saw the advantages/improvements the GTX2 offers.  Still not a GTX2, but it works good enough not to change it out.

The reason we still use these "other triggers" is quite simple... we already paid for them and can't afford to toss them away for another of essentially the same thing.  (after the mods...)  The difference from what I can see is just not quite enough, but certainly enough to make the GTX2 the better value.

If I were to buy a new one... I'd buy the GTX2 over the other one.

 


 
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Good question, Chris. I wouldn't like wasting $30+ either. Craig's solutioin is...

May 15 2009, 9:29 AM 



    
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i didn't know "he" was giving refunds.

May 15 2009, 9:50 AM 

that's the way to go, had i known that i would not have bothered messing with "his" junk i would have requested a refund..
i feel taken by "him"
when i was a member "over there" i was all giddy like everyone over their is now thinking how good "it" was.
simply because i didn't know how a real two stage trigger felt, all i knew was it was better then stock.
that was until i bought five of the GTX, then i realized i had been had.
anyone who knows how a two stage trigger feels knows the "other trigger"
doesn't work.



    
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If someone does try it, I hope they post about the experience, whichever way...

May 15 2009, 10:37 AM 

...it plays out.

It would either...

1. Best case: Provide a means of redress and recovery for Fishy customers cheated out the 2-stage trigger they paid for.
2. Worst case: Prove the Fishie's arrogant claims of "impeccable" (i.e., perfect) customer service is (another) outrageous lie.

Steve

Air Conserving MSP 392
GTX Generation II 2-Stage Trigger
Benjamin SuperSear
Crosman Custom Parts
Big Ed Airguns

 
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papagrande
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i have the other trigger

May 16 2009, 7:19 PM 

And it's real smooth it has made my varmint hunter a real pleasure to shoot . If it's adjusted like mine is you will love it's performance .JMO i never shot steves design it may be much better for all i know. chris

 
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Re: i have the other trigger

May 16 2009, 8:08 PM 

did you drop it in and it was sweet or did it need any adjustment?

 
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Did you read Craig's post, Chris? No matter how "real smooth" your trigger may be...

May 16 2009, 9:41 PM 

...it's irrelevant. Whether you know it or not and can tell the difference or not - you still got swindled if it's not what the Fish advertised it to be: A true 2-stage trigger.

When Alfred Kinsey would interview women about their sex lives and ask them if they'd ever had a climax, if they answered "I'm not sure," he'd put that down as a "No!"

Shooting with a good 2-stage is a little like that. If you're not sure, then you don't have one. happy.gif

Steve

Air Conserving MSP 392
GTX Generation II 2-Stage Trigger
Benjamin SuperSear
Crosman Custom Parts
Big Ed Airguns

 
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papagrande
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I understand what your both saying

May 17 2009, 7:45 AM 

And no it needed adjusting not by me it was horrible at first but with some time i got it nice .Then i sent my gun to a great gamo man who i belive strongly endorces steve's trigger for a tune and as a repeat coustomer he adjusted mine . All i'am saying is i really like what i have and truth be told it's pretty solid sorry if this offends anyone but this subject sure gets alot of play. I have no affiliation with anyone just a consumer who is satisfied .If all the time on this subject was spent on making a drop in trigger for the discovery or RWS 5g mag pistol, this would be a mute subject and steve would be looking like champ and would corner the market once again sorry if anyone is offended i relize i have never shot the original chris

 
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Re: I understand what your both saying

May 17 2009, 8:38 AM 

i'm glad your trigger was adjusted by someone who knows what a true two stage is.
lots of people out there do not know what a two stage is so they use it as a one stage and do not get the benefit of the trigger and thus waisted 32 dollars.
this is all about righting a wrong, and the people should get what they pay for.

 
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Well, Chris, you might be right. nt

May 17 2009, 12:02 PM 



    
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papagrande
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Your right steve i haven't tried to do any of those things

May 17 2009, 9:16 PM 

And i realize you have put in the effort and should be rewarded for your skill . All i'am saying once again is that i'am satisfied with what i bought and don't feel it's junk JMO again . You on the other hand see it diffrent and the truth is if it's flat out junk you should have no worries just like everything else in life the cream rises .And what i meant about other trigger's was if you do it again where there is a need you will have more fuel for your fire and prove your the man you say and something i never claim to be. Look at it like this your trigger is budweiser and lets say his is smitty's both beers go down when cold but you will always be the KING . My varmint hunter shot lights out with the stock trigger so i'am out on this conversation there's starlings waiting on predator pellets another copyright infingment for the future disscusion but gamo is already everyones whipping boy why bother


    
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