Well I got (most of) my herbs the other day so I decided to figure out my doses and such this morning. Here's my starting routine

3 times daily
abt 250mg of Barley
abt 275mg of Fennel
abt 620mg of Fennugreek
abt 660mg of Hops
1/2 tbsp of FlaxSeed Oil
2 tbsp of powdered Soy

2 times daily (morning and night)
massage with lotion made from normal lotion with soy and hops mixed in

1 time daily (at night)
Tea made of one of the following in rotation:
Barley, Fennel, Hops
tea is made by putting about 1tsp of the herbs in a cup and adding hot water, milk, and sweetener, and maybe some other things liek licorace root for flavoring

as some of you may know, i was hoping to be following Eve's routine. But my oats and my borage oil didn't come in, the internet place i ordered from was out of stock. So i decided to just use what i've got and see how it works out :)

ill be posting my current measurements later for future reference :) feel free to comment on my program at any time and offer suggestions ot whatever! Thanks everyone :)

boy, i tell you, that soy powder is brutal lol if im going to be on this program for any amount of time im definately going to need some soy capsules!

i also decided to make the tea soy every night since i have a giant can of soy powder :P . tonight i put in some cinnamon and some hazel nut coffee creamer haha

well it seems ill be taking a break sooner than expected :P im going on vacation this weekend - visiting my long distance boyfriend. and i'd rather not be taking all kinds of wierd pills and massaging my boobs in his parents house where ill be staying :P lol. so ill start back up on monday.

also i think im going to double the amounts that i take of barely fennel and hops just because the current dose is half a capsule and its a real pain in the ass to spit capsules haha

oh btw my measurements on starting NBE are as follows:

Bust 33in
Waist 27in
Hips 40in

I know, I know. I'm all hips. Thats one of the major reasons im on NBE. I just want to be balanced.

Well I changed my routine already. I really cant stand that soy powder. It doesnt taste that bad but I can't handle it for some reason. I guess the texture. Anyways heres my optimized routine:

In the morning before work:

Massage*
1 Capsule of Fennugreek - 620mg

At lunch:

1 Capsule of Fennugreek - 620mg
1 Capsule of Fennel Seed - 550mg
1 Capsule of Barley Grass - 500mg
1 Capsule of Hops - 4400mg
2 Tbsp of Soy powder
Various other herbal supplements that have nothing to do with NBE

At dinner:

1 Capsule of Fennugreek - 620mg
1 Tbsp of Flax seed oil
Tea made with 1 tbsp of Soy powder, hot water, licorace root, coffee creamer, milk
Masage* before bed

Massage lotion is same as above

I think I'll stick to this routine for a while and see what happens :) I plan on buying some cocoa butter once my lotion runs out after hearing about all the girls rave about it ;)

well its been about a week and i definatly see and feel growth! i measure about 1/2 an inch bigger around bust and im starting to get a little cleavage line :) i think my boyfriend used the word "plumper". im so happy! my progress seems to be pretty rapid. i havent really had any pains or tingles but my boobs have been sore and sensitive. i have pictures but i dont know if ill post them. its only a weeks worth of growth so its not a whole heck of alot. but its pretty darn good for one week haha

incase anyone is following my routine, i decided to post a few little clarifications. in all honesty i rarely ever take the flax oil and i take soy powder and the tea almost never. i have been having granola with soy milk for breakfast so i suppose i am taking some soy haha.

i also use a heating pad before and after my nightly massage. and i do my morning massage after my shower because i figure the pores are more open and everything then. can get bras a little iky sometimes with herbs and things but its alright, they can be washed haha. i just didnt think it was too bright to massage things into my skin in the morning and then simply wash them right off in the shower. so thats where it stands right now. just fyi ;)

oh by the way, when i said "following" i meant "paying attention to". i obviously dont expect anyone to be taking my routine :P

well its been another week - time for another growth update! it seems to me that i measure more than another half an inch! i measure over 34" now! thats more than an inch in two weeks! im stunned. i am just about a full B now. while its not great, its a step in the right direction! my current goal is to fill out a 34C.

i have heard on here that alot of initial growth is lost after period. mine is due next week. so i guess we'll see. i hope i dont lose this though, my progress has been so great! if i keep growing at 1/2" a week ill be a C in less than a month! haha. i took a new picture and the difference between pic number one and pic number 3 is stunning. i think ill post it... i hope i dont give people unrealistic expectations with my rapid growth. :/ i'd hate to be the reason other ladies are bummed out. but on the other hand im super happy that my body is responding so well and i hope it keeps up this rate! ill be done with NBE in no time!

Congtulations! I feel happy for you, and I look forward to your picture #3!
Do you mind tell me your age, your initial measurement and current measurement? I'm a small 34A my goal is 34B. I've been on NBE for 3 months following flat2Fab book, barely see any growth so far. I may follow yours after my break if things work well for you. Thanks! BTW, how does the tea teast like?

Well let's see. i am 20 years old. i will be 21 next month. when i started nbe i was around 33" bust (its hard to tell exactly) and now i am around 34". i normally wear a 34NB(nb stands for nearly B in one manufacturer who has started producing half sizes, sorta like an A 1/2 or something :P) i currently am a good fit for a 34B so I guess you could say i gained about half a cup size so far :)

sure you can follow mine if you'd like :) id of course give you the caution not to expect too much. if your growth ends up like mine then great! but if not, your body probably just needs more time. many of the women on here have been following routines for months and are having very slow progress. you have to have the mentality to be in it for the long haul. it may just be my body that is responding well, not that i have a super-duper program. but you are, of course, welcome to try.

the tea... well it tastes like soy. after choking down that soy power i have become very aquainted with the taste of soy haha. it.. yeah it tastes like soy. thats all i can really say :P. its not good. but its not digusting really. its just.. i dont know. i dont like it personally. infact i rarely ever make the tea. and i rarely ever take the flax oil. its note worthy that the program that i posted at first i only took for a few days. the one farther down is the one ive been sticking to for the past two weeks (minus the tea and oil as i mentioned) so if you're looking to follow my program, thats the one youre going to want to do. in case youre interested: the lotion i based my massage lotion on is an Avon product.. its in the Avon Naturals product line and its the vanilla body lotion.


*on a personal note for my program reference*
turns out i started my period a few days early: today! i measured myself and it seems i may have lost a little bit but not a tremendous amount. somewhere between 1/4" and 1/2". So i am still very satisfied with my progress so far :)

Thank you for sharing this with me. I notice your program as well as Eve' has soy powder, I wonder what the benefit it brings, soy protein? Can it be replaced by soy milk? I actually do like soy milk a lot. Good luck and thanks again.

soy has what is called "phytoestrogens" which are a kind of.. plant form of estrogen. so you can probably agree how taking estrogen might be able to help NBE. however it's also been said that increasing estrogen increases the risk for breast cancer, so one should be cautious when using soy. soy milk would proably be beneficial as well, i personally have cereal with soy milk in it every morning for breakfast. i'm not sure if it provides the same benefit. then again you could probably argue that soy powder itself might not provide much of a benefit. and it tastes nasty :P . as i mentioned before i really dont take the soy at all. i only took it for a few days BEFORE the time where my program really took off. so, for me, i do not feel that it is nessisary for my growth becuase all of my growth has taken place without taking soy powder at all. so.. ill leave you to draw your own conclusion and you should prbably do some research on it as well, but those are my findings. :)

well tomorrow i leave to visit my boyfriend again so i'll be taking another break for the weeken. i hope it doesnt hinder my progess :/ i'll see you on monday!

that was "for the weekend" :P

well im back. it seemed to me that my boobs werent quite as big as they had been so i measured when i got back home and im back down to around 33 1/2. i dont know if this has to do with period or from breaking for the weekend? i dont know. but ive started my routine right back up and i hope my growth will resume at its former speed :) wish me luck!

well.. ive been feeling really terrible lately. shakey and.. i dont even know hot to describe it. shakey is the best word. so im going to break for a while from the herbs and see if it helps me. i really dont know what is causing this... hope its not the herbs or i may never have good boobs :( ill come back later with results of my break. sorry...

well i ended up not really taking a break anyway. i was starting to feel better and i knew i hadnt been off the herbs long enough for that to have any effect so i started taking them again. im feeling better. maybe not 100% but im ok. i have hypoglycemia so the shaky might have just been that spazzing out on me. i dunno. but yes im not breaking :) i missed a few massages here and there and a pill or two but thats it. i havent had any measureable growth lately but i can definately see the difference when i look at them. they actually look like boobs now instead of just.. a little puffiness with a nipple on it :P im very happy with how they look now and i cant wait for more growth :)

well ive heard from several of the ladies that they have had similar symptoms to mine due to fenugreek. so i am going to cut the fenugreek for a while and see if it helps. i really hate to do that because i think im entering the stage of my cycle where i get the most growth. but i guess good health is more important than big boobs lol. i hope i can continue to grow during this stage without the fenugreek.

well after about a month of no growth, i beleive i have started growing again :) i now measure about 34 1/2 total growth 1 1/2 in about 2 months. i was having reactions to fenugreek i think so i stopped taking it for a week and then i took a week off of all my herbs. after starting everything up again i seemed to have broken my period of stagnation and it seems to be working again. so im thinking what ill do is just take frequent breaks when the fenugreek starts bothering me and give my body time to flush everything out of my system and then start over fresh.

it's been about 3 months now and im up about 2 inches :) i now measure 35 around the bust. i feel like its moving slow to me but 2 inches in 3 months is a pretty decent amount. so thats good. i havent posted a picture since my two week one because the pictures dont really show the growth well, my webcam tends to make everything less 3D looking. so you cant even really tell a difference in the pics but i see it for sure myself and on the tape measure.

i've also made some changes to my routine for the past week or so that seems to have helped. my current routine is as follows:

Morning
620mg of Fennugreek
580mg of Saw Palmetto (berries)
1 tbs of Flax Seed oil
1 tbs of Soy powder
Massage

Afternoon
620mg of Fennugreek
580mg of Saw Palmetto
500mg of Barley
550mg of Fennel
440mg of Hops
1 1300mg softgel caplet of Evening Primrose Oil

Evening
620mg of Fennugreek
580mg of Saw Palmetto (berries)
1 tbs of Flax Seed oil
1 tbs of Soy powder
Massage

massage with lotion made from normal lotion with soy, hops, and flax seed oil mixed in


this for the past week is what has pushed me finally past 34 1/2 and into 35. i'm barely 35 now but its still better than it has been. im happy with my statistics but when i look at myself i still want more growth. i think my goal is 39 inches for now. we'll see how it looks when i get there

just fyi, i am currently taking a break from fennugreek. i started to feel shakey on like sunday so i decided to cut the fennugreek for this week and resume on monday. everything else is the same.

oh also i will be breaking for the weekend again - goin on a trip :)

I was just wondering where you were getting your herbs and stuff from.
Just any old vitamin store or someplace online?

i get my herbs from herbsmd.com they only ship to U.S. though

well i ended up staying at my boyfriends house for almost two weeks. so basically that means that i took about a two week break from my herbs and i resumed my routine yesterday. after the break i am still measuring 35 and maybe even a little more. and i even had my period while on the break and it seems i havent shrunk at all! i might have even grown a little :) so im pretty happy about that. my routine is the same. im almost out of soy powder though and i dont have any money so im going to continue on without it.

also one more thing to note, i started doing the pansyclub massage sometime early last month. i will use plain lotion and do the pansyclub massages and then i will use my special herb lotion with just some basic rotations and rubbing until its decently absorbed. so i guess i kind of do double the massage now. the reason i do it this way is because i find that when i use the herb lotion with the pansyclub massage, the repetitious rubbing ends up with the herbs flaking off everywhere :P

hi mitharatowen,

i saw the pics of your nbe progress and i'm really impressed!
i just started taking a nbe pill called mamarapril but i realize its probably not as effective as individual herbs. i already paid for it though so its worth a shot i guess.
i wrote down your program and will attempt it soon if i see no results from this pill.
anyhow, congrats on your success...must admit i am so jealous :)

thanks nephilim. but i gotta say its really not as great as it seems in the pic. ive grown about 2 inches and im still less than a B! ive still got a long long way to go. thanks for the compliements though. i wish you luck in your own journey :) let me know how it works out for you

well i havent had a whole lot of growth this month. but just within the past few weeks i've started gaining a bit of weight. i can see it in my body shape and im about 5 lbs heavier. so i think im going to cut the fennugreek and see what happens.

well i havent had much growth this month, if any. and it seems that now i am starting to put on wieght. ive noticed a slight change in my body and i weigh in at 5 lbs heavier than i was. i think im acutally just going to go off the pills for october and maybe start up again later. personally, i really dont care about all this at the moment. im going thru some stuff and its just like... theres more important things in life than boobs. but yeah anyways i guess maybe ill try again starting in sept and see what happens. i just dont want to worry about this right now. especially if its going to make me gain weight. i dont want any of that

whoa sorry for the double post - i didnt think it went thru the first time

well heres an update. i was feeling pretty down last time i posted. but i decided not to take it out on my boobs :P so i didnt really take a break. i did take a week off last week because i went on vacation. but ive mostly been keeping up with my program. and i grew .5 inch this month. it might be partially luteal swelling tho but i really hope i keep it *fingers crossed*. that last .5" really makes a difference. my boobs look great! my boyfriend tells me they look huge haha. and compared to what they used to be, they ARE huge! if i keep the .5 ill have a total of 2.5" of growth in 5 months. i hope to be up to 3" by next month. thats my short term goal. wish me luck :)

Hi there! just wanted to compliment u on ur results! u look great!!! and im sorry that u are going through a rough time... i know that post was a while ago, but i know how stressful it can be to try and just have a life and grow boobs at the same time! there are definitely more important things in life than boobs, so maybe u should take it easy for a bit until things settle down. and i see that u've taken random breaks before, and it hasn't hindered ur progress, so that's very lucky for u! i hope things get better soon so u can continue with ur boob journey! lol Ur pics are really great though, and it gives us hope! ; ) smile!

thank you for the compliments lani! im feeling better now but thank you anyways for the support. and its always nice to hear good things about my pictures :) i think that taking breaks when growth stagnates might actually help in some cases, i dont know. maybe im just lucky :P im going to stick with my program the best that i can from now on though. i cut out the fennugreek now and im just taking fennel instead. so i wont need breaks to clense from fennugreek anymore :) anyways thanks again lani! i wish you luck on your own journey!