Let me start with my stats and routine.
age 38, no kids
height 5'3"
weight 115lb.
started NBE end of Sep 05 with a loose B cup (weight 112 lb then)
i am a smoker(very bad >_< ) and a night person.
achieved full 34C (or small 34D) in early April, 06
current size
upper bust 36 1/2+ inch.(93cm)
lower bust 30 1/4 inch. (77cm)

my routine.
soya milk 1 cup w/coffee in the morning (w/ 2tbs tremella)
20 push-ups (against table) be4 massages
massage 20 min.
boobie soup for lunch.(mainly soups make from chicken feet broth)
(hot)soya milk 1 cup after dinner. (add 1 tbsp of fermented rice most of time)
lots seafoods (clams, shrimps..) once a week at least.
add in borage oil (1000mg) since Mar 15th/06.

my goal--->34DD or E

i think i hit a stall now, so i just started to take VIT-C and E a few days ago, see if i can get a boost from that. will keep u girls updated. (as in May-30, 06)

I have stopped my programme since Feb., 07. So far the size has remained.

tiger lily already posted most of my massages in her programme, please check her programme, or check this link for details.


http://www.aphroditewomenshealth.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=53475&page=10

i used borage(seeds) oil for a boost, it worked well. :)
i took 1 1000mg borage oil cap X 3 a day w/ meal for ONE MONTH.
the second month i took 2 a day.
third month 1 a day.
(above dosage is recommended on TW NBE forum)

most of my massage techniques r being posted in tiger lily's programme, please check her programme or the link above, however she missed out these probabaly cuz she found out the "arrow" for directions can't be displayed here, that's why she didn't post them? :)

here they r.
*use knuckles of both hands, push in deeply in following directions.
¨U
.ͺ for 20 times. ("U"is the boobie ), ͺis on the line straight down from the nipple, there is a presspoint on the edge of breast. push it up like ͺ, then

«
U
ͺ for 20 times.

¨U© 20 times. vice versa for the outher side.



*there is a pressure point right in the middle of our breasts, on the line between 2 nipples. where the "+" is.

U+U..... I use the knuckle of my thumb to push like this ͺ for 20 times.

*right underneath the nippls at the bottom of our breasts, there are 2 pressure points, I use both knuckles of my thunbs to push them, too.

U-U for 20 times.
ͺͺ

that's about all I do for massages. I do all the massages I mentioned in about 20 min.

friendly reminder, always use lotion or oil with your massages, so you don't hurt your skin.

*****the "arrow" for directions can't be shown in this forum, please check this link.(starts 4th reply)


http://www.aphroditewomenshealth.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=53475&page=14

*seafoods, seaweed, agar agar. shirmps and clams and fish w/ skin on r the best. :)
*wild yam? some people call it Japanese naga, I saw it in chinese supermarket called "huai-shan". Here is the pictures so there is no mistakes, I know it's rich in DHEA.
http://www.yaoducn.com/cyzycjs/38.htm
*avocado
*green papaya (to use to cook with bass or pork spare-rib)
*chicken feet(I know it sounds gross, but most effective in my (and other girls')experience, I've been eatten them every day for at least 2 monthes. don't boo me. )
*pig knuckle, beef, eggs
*soy product, soy bean milk, yogurt, milk is also good
*peanuts, walnuts.....we need some fat to make boobs grow.
*sesame, cheese
*potato, carrots, corns, eggplant, broccoli
*lettece and asparagus---most recommended by those girls for vegi
*apples, banana, papaya, cherry, peach, olive.
*pomegranate (best eat the seeds, too)

Okay, I just eat chicken feet everyday (make it as broth), because it's most effective in my own experience. I always eat them after my massage, because one massagist said that always eat some boobie helpful foods after massages. You can just drink soy bean milk or eggs.

**gelatin-rich and high protein foods r very helpful, u may try to use them in pill form if foods r not available. but i prefer foods, haven't tried the pills yet, but i think gelatin/collagen caps will help, too. :)

list of "boobie unfriendly foods", just try to avoid them, BUT NO NEED TO GET PARANOID!!!!!!!!!
I cheat once in a while, and I don't eat too much of them. it won't hurt if just a little.

BEER, ice cold drink or food (such as ice cream....sorry, girls), grapefruit, pinapple, watermelon, honeydew melon, chinese cabbage, bamboo, kiwi, coconut, pear, fresh chinese date(jujube), tomato, orange, strawberry, chives, leeks


not to bad, right?

however, tomato is okay if it's cooked.

i mix these simple exercises to my massages for breast-lifting purpose, i think they helped. my breasts r lifted about an inch. :)

* the "lion face" is some kind of yoga method, i think. i read it somewhere but not positive.

anyways, u make ur face like "shocked" (like jim carey would do ), stick out ur tongue as far as u can, u can feel the muscles of ur breasts contract. do it 20 times then use ur plams to push up gently from nipples to ur chin, that helps to lift the breasts.


*i also do this. stand relaxed both arms down, make a fist and raise one arm and reach up as far as u can, use as much strength as u can, ur upper arm will be touching ur ear. hold it for 30 sec. then put down do the other arm.

*and push ur plams against each other as hard as u can whenever u have time, that's pretty good too.

i had been slaking in exercise and eating be4 bed i gained 7 lbs. :( i didn't gain anything boob-wise. so i tried to lose weight and kept my boobs. i lost 2 1/2 lbs and kept the same measurement. but after i ate leeks dumplings 4 days straight i lost 1 cm. this is my first shrinkage in 8 months since i started NBE (leeks r NBE no-no) i did more massage for a week and couldn't get it back. very very sad.

then i recalled this lady (from 32B to E cup) in TW's forum said that she was shocked by the effectiveness of the chicken/feet soup. so i made some home-made chicken broth, scoop out the fat on top, then used the broth to cook the chicken feet soup. i got my 1 cm back the next day!!!!! plus fuller breasts!!!! very happy now. now i am on 4th day of this soup, still have my 1 cm w/ me and haven't gained any weight. (i only eat boobie soup for lunch) i will keep eating this until my chicken broth runs out see if i can get more results. : ) i am still trying to go back 115 lbs, so i have been eaten less for dinner and no more food afterwards execpt my soya milk.

i started using aloe vera+borage oil+EVOO(for mobility) a while ago, i was also trying to lose weight, i lost 2 1/2 lb and kept same measurement, i think it helped. :-)
then i ate too much stupid leeks, i lost 1 cm(my first experience of shrinkage). kept massaging w/ boobie batter above for more then a week w/o any progress. almose gave up NBE cuz it was frustrating after i had dealt w/ stalling for 2 months.
then i received my order of 14% wild yam cream, epo, progesterone cream, i decided to give it a try.
now i use wild yam cream+epo+V-E oil+EVOO(for mobility), and back on taking 3 borage oil a day plus heat pad for 5~20 min depends if i have time. try that for maybe a week w/o progress, then i made the chicken/feet soup (see post above), got 1cm back+fuller the next day. few days later i started appling progestrone cream after shower.
i just ran out of the chicken broth yesterday. so i am back to feet soup again. but my boobs r feeling(by grabing) fuller. so far everything is going well with my new adding thingy. i have a little growth (1 cm, measured this evening), but i only ate some salad for supper tonite(still trying to lose weight slowly), will c if i still have it tomorrow.

i just remembered, i did experience some fluctuation while on the aloe vera/borage oil/EPOO boobie batter for over a week (93cm~94cm full bust), i thought my stalling was broken, then the "leeks" incident happened, it droped to 92cm. so i think it is a good boobie batter.(suggested by Gisela) :-)

After my stall I didn't have any real growth but fullness, so I took a break in the beginning of FEB.07, I had kept my size and fullness with occasionally massage and boobie soups til the week before. this week I see that i am starting to loose my fullness, so I start grow yours programme, will post my morning measurements for daily record.

mine stats to start GY are pretty much the same like before my stall, maybe .5cm bigger, but I weight 118.5 lb this morning, I also start taking borage oil and royal jelly today, hope to see some growth soon on my new GY programme.
I am going to use morning measurements on my programme page here, and night measurements at GY for records.

Not really an updateing, I only did GY for a few days, but couldn't follow through at the moment due to personal life difficulties, but I would think it's really good massage method.

Anyways, it has been 5 months since I stopped my programme, I eat some boobie nono foods moderately now(such as water melon, ice cream), still have my size and a little more (cause I have gained weight).

Currently, I am 95cm (37.5 inches) and 123 lb. I do about less than a minute knuckle massage in shower, and once a week boobie soup if I can (as maintenance). (even if the wether is hot, I don't drink too much cold drinks, when I do, I drink it slowly--like sipping)

Now I am on a mission to lose weight, I will update when I go back to 115 lb and see if I still have my size.

Since I have stopped my programme, any question is welcome on my programme page if needed. Now I can fill up my 34 D but don't really look big cause my chubby tummy. :-(

P.S. I still drink soy milk everyday just because I like it. :-)

Where do I find chicken feet? Do you have before and after pics of your progress? I would be very excited to see your results. You sound like you were about my size and your size now is my goal.

kieyah, sorry, I didn't take any pictures, if I start my programme again I will take pics, because my upper breasts are not "meaty" so I don't really look big, that's the part I will target on if I start again.

you can find chicken feet at asian supermarkets, green papaya sea bass soup is also very good boobie soup, hitomi (who I learned this method from) grew from B~E from that soup.

Hey Fengshui!!!

How's it going?? Do you still have my email address? If so, email me sometime. I would love to hear how you are doing!

Deb

Just reveiwed my old post above, on Jul, 6, 06, I gained 7 lb. on weight and nothing boobie-wise( than I lost weight to 117 lb but had kept 93cm until recently, but I never got back to 115 lb), which means I was 122 lb, 93 cm. This morning I weighed myself 121 lb. 95cm overbust, so I am bigger than a year ago on the same weight, that's some growth just on maintenance I guess.

I do my maintence in shower with soap, I use knuckles to make circles around my boobs, then I use left hand to hold my left boobs up and use (right hand) knuckles to massage up and down real fast on my upper breast (between nipple and collar bone), vice versa for right boob, all done in a minute. I still squeeze my boobs like 5 times and 10 times chi massage before bed if I remember. boobie soup once a week if can.
Will see how it goes with my weight lose plan. :-)

P.S. I wonder if ripplu bras have helped my little growth? I have been wearing them for a long time, over six months I think.( I am still wearing the step 1 bras)

I'm sorry, I don't judge what you choose to eat but Chicken Feet soup just sounds too awful for me to even try. Is there any way I can work around this with another protein? Why are chicken feet so effective?
Thanks.

Hi, cindyG, you don't need to eat the chicken feet soup, that's just my personal choice, cause I can use the feet soup (broth) to make all kinds of different soups, so I am not eating same soup everyday, that's why I choose it.

There are many other boobie soups to choose from (though not really for westners' taste), such as green papaya sea bass soup, green papaya pork rib soup, green papaya pig knuckle's soup, milkfish soup, naga(wild yam) rib soup,.... the main reason we eat those soups is for collagen/protein intake. Also seafoods are very recommended. You can check food and drink receipes page for boobie foods list and some soups/drinks receipes. Of course you also need to massage for this method to work.

Hope my answer helps. :-)

Here is a link about a westen lady use chicken feet for dishes, you can check it out.
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976728203

Okay, I'm trying to be more animal-friendly and I found out that Chicken feet soup is good for the gelatin and protein. Do you think Agar Agar, which is used as a kosher gelatin substitute, would work just as well as a regular gelatin? I'm just wondering because I know gelatin is made from animal parts. Any opinions? Thanks.

I would think agar agar would help, I have read some girls in TW's forum eating tremella (snow fungus) a quter bag a day got results, and I have heard of lots women eating that to keep young-looking skin, very popular in TW. also seaweeds(kelp) are recommended. Here is a link from BEboard, a lady taking agar agar semms to work on her.

http://beboard.proboards107.com/index.cgi?board=popular&action=display&thread=1145986760

Thank you so much!

I have been unable to find an asian market around here. Any other suggestions as to where to maybe find the chicken feet? could they be dried and maybe found in herbal stores or some other place?

Hi, kieyah, the reason we use chicken feet is cause the feet contain gelatin/collagen, barely any fat, you can use pig trotters or pig knuckles to make broth (need to simmer for houres before the broth turns white/beige), then scoop out the fat on top (after chilled in frige, the fat will float on top, and the broth will be like jelly), that's as good as the feet soup (just more time consuming), use that broth to make any soup you like. Or you can use the sea bass (with skin on) to make green papaya sea bass soup, very popular boobie soup in TW.

thank you so much. would pig trotters be the same as pig feet?
I'm pretty sure i can find these other parts in most grocers. thanks again!

yes, pig trotters are pig feet, you can even add peanuts in the soup to cook together, very popular boobie soup in TW.

Hi, Do you know of any vegetarian meal that will help my breasts grow? thanks

how long did it take for you to notice any results?

if you don't take herbs, I would suggest you try to follow the boobie food list (veggies and no-cold drinks), at the food and drinks page, there are some recipes you can check it out.
You can drink soya milk (see chocogirl's page she got growth from soy milk) or avacado milk, papaya milk are all very popular boobie drink in TW.
The soy/potato/walnut recipe is really worth a try, I haven't really tried it "per se",here is what happened, I have been working on weight lose, lost couple of pounds already, and I lost 1 cm boobage. few days ago, I had beef rice ball with mashed potato and corns, I drank my soy milk after dinner (as usual), than had some peanuts as night snacks, drank a little merlot before bed, the next morning I got 1+cm back ( I also gained back 0.5 lb), but I lost the 0.5 lb today and my measurement still 95.5 cm. And you still need to massage.
Or you can take borage oil, vit-E or/and royal jelly to help your growth.
Hope this helps, good luck!! :-)

It took me about a month or so to see my growth.

My bradalis bras are too tight now, I wonder if I got bigger or it's just luteal phase, it's 18th day since my period. But it was never this tight before, just checked bradalis website, my size is not available for step 1. I really like bradalis bras, and I am still trying to collect underarm fats, so not ready to move onto step 2 yet.
Not on any programme currently, just my maintanance massage + weekly boobie soup, and do the GY finger massage when I drink my morning coffee (few minutes each side).
Not planning going back to my programme any time soon, but if what I am doing is working, that's really GREAT!! No hassle NBE method for me!! :-)
We'll see when my period comes.

Hello Fengshui,

Do you have any advice for somebody who is starting at 34AAAA? It's amazing how much you were able to grow. I am only hoping for a regular 34A so I look decent. Could you please tell me if you ever had any tingling and pain that many on the forum describe? I have never had any such sensation. I don't really have any change within my cycle either. I don't have the so-called luteal swelling. Anything wrong with me? I started using progesterone cream with USP standard 20 mg each day on the 2nd half of my cycle, along saw palmetto, fenugreek, hops, royal jelly, etc. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Sarah

Hi Fengshui,

Another thing I meant to ask is that I heard the Chinese style of sweet fermented rice is helpful NBE. Being Chinese, I always knew that women after having had babies tend to eat it with eggs, and it's supposed to help with milk production. Do you know if anyone has tried to eat sweet fermented rice for NBE purposes and had any results?

Thanks.

Sarah

hi, Sarah, I have read quite a few girls who started with an A and succeeded, tigerlily is one of the best examples. I don't know if you are very skinny, if your BMI is 19 and up might be faster for you to see results.

As for myself, I had never experience any tingling or pain when on my programme. I don't remember I had any luteal swelling in the first few months, as far as I can remember, I started noticing any luteal swelling (only about 1/2 in) after six months on my programme.

Sorry, I can't comment on herbs 'cause I haven't tried any. About royal jelly, I remember the recommended dosage in TW's forum was 4000mg/day, but in that thread, there were girls got resluts from only taking 2000mg/daily. I think I was on 2000mg for a while and felt it gave me more fullness but I wasn't on it for long I think.

here is some threads from TW forums if you read Chinese,

http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/MsgL/2_CateL_169422_%C2%D7%AF%DD_218_1_1.html
http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/MsgL/2_CateL_156550_%C2%D7%AF%DD_218_1_1.html
http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/MsgL/2_CateL_187561_%C2%D7%AF%DD_218_1_1.html
http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/CateL/2_%C2%D7%AF%DD_218.html

http://www.urcosme.com/boards/board2-sn136148-3.htm#136148

Especially this thread, the girl "sylvan", she is from AA~C,(she is skinny and a vegan) I also use her massage method, I feel it's very helpful.

http://www.dr-bra.com/forum_A/Discussiondetail.asp?main_id=91

Hope this info is helpful to you. :-)

About sweet fermented rice with egg, the most successful example is probably the TW star " Tan-shin", she is an F cupper (real boobs). Hitomi tried, she felt it helped. It's quite popular in TW for NBE, too.
I tried sweet fermented rice with egg a few times, didn't like it at all, so I added 1 tbsp. in my soy milk as my boobie drink when on my programme. I like the taste and I think it's helpful.

Let me explain why I think it's helpful,
I have been off my programme about 10 months, I do my 1 min maintanace massage and some boobies soups. I try to eat boobie soup at least once a week, but sometimes I go no soup for more than a week if I am too busy to make any. Even if I am off my programme, I still drink soy milk everyday, and 9 out of 10 times, I add 1 tbsp. sweet fermented rice in my soy milk. I am not on any programme right now, but my boobies are a bit bigger, about 1/2 in so far, my breasts are meatier on the upper top,
and I can't really see the rib bones anymore (my rib bones were very obvious when I got off my programme).
So, since I got off my programme, not really do much in these 10 months, my breasts are a bit bigger and fuller.

So, if you can accept sweet fermented rice, it's worth a try.

Hi Fengshui,

Thanks for your input. I will definitely take sweet fermented rice. Although I don't love it, I don't hate it either, so I figure it can't hurt. I will also start drinking soy milk. I don't like the kind bought in stores because I think there is a ton of sugar and probably a million of chemicals in it, so I make my own.

I am still trying to find green papaya.

Could you tell again just how long it took you to start noticing ANY growth at all? I am also close to 40 so I am thinking that my growth will be slow in coming.

Sarah

It's great that you make your own soy milk, don't forget to massage, it takes both food and massage to work. I remember Hitomi mentioned in her thread, she asked the vendor at the fresh market to order the green papaya for her, maybe you can try that.

I remember I only got better shape after 2 months, but in Mar. 06, the growth was obvious, maybe a whole cup in Mar., so, about 5th month to see real growth coming.
maybe it has something to do with timing????

best luck to you!! :-)

Hi,Fengshui!

First of all, thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience on this forum. My questions are:

1. Do you make your own soy milk or buy? If you make, do you use a machine?
2. Could you describe how you do push-ups against table?

Thanks!

Hi, Leslie, I prefer home-made soy milk, I used to make it myself before my NBE, but when I was on my programme, I use the store-bought instant soy milk mix to save time.
If I make home-made soymilk I use blender, there is soy milk machine available, but my friend told me the soy milk tasted pretty weak from the machine.

About the push-up, I put both hands against a table or countertop, both feet on ground one-foot apart, and do push-ups as you would on the floor.

Fengshui, I am now ready to devise my owm program based on what I read from your experience. I think yours is the safest and most natural among all other methods, i.e., won't do me harm even if it does not produce any intended result.

I will start my program next spring when it's not so cold. I will let you know if I have any luck, thanks again!

Hi Fengshui,

I can't open any of the links to massage instruction pictures, is there any chance you could copy and paste into a word document and email it to me? If you could do this then please send to optom1982@hotmail.co.uk if it's difficult for any reason that's fine.

Hi, Louise, I am sorry I don't know which link you refer to (there are no pics provided in those links).
All first few links were just to my old posts on the other forum with details of my methods and the lower links are some Chinese NBE forums (in Chinese language). If you want to know more of the massage method I used, you can either check the first link on the top or you can check the "fengshui explaination of massage" on the main page(sweet Tiger lily organized my posts from the other forum), or you can check the "pansyclub massage page" (also on main page) that's from dr.bra.com where my massage method is originated from (recreated by a TW lady Hitomi)
Hope this helps. :-)

I thought somewhere you said you used Pansyclub massage but I couldn't find it when I looked yesterday - so did you only do the stuff in the Pansyclub pics? That's quite straightforward and I remember I found my pressure points easily - they're squishy! Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.

You are welcome!! I wonder if you found the "pansyclub massage" page, here is the link just in case.

http://www.natural-breast-forum.netoutlook.co.uk/p-massage.html

I did the pansy club massage in the beginning, but I was never sure if I found the points or not, then Hitomi introduced her massage method (the knuckle massage) in her TW forum, that was easier for me, that's the massage I sticked with. here is the link if you need it.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/486111/thread/1156266984/last-1185183175/Fengshui+explanation+of+MASSAGE

Thanks again, I'll have to spend some time with the Brava off working out what to do!

Fengshui,

I went to a mexican market the other day with my friend's mom because her daughter needed chicken feet for a school project. I thought you had to eat the feet...it's just to make the broth? Thank goodness! So, yeah, my question is what does the chicken feet broth taste like? What flavor do they give to the broth? They are super cheap too. $.25 for 2 feet. What is that fermented rice? What makes it different from the traditional sticky white rice? If you add edamame in it will that increase the growth? Do you happen to have a before and after picture by any chance?

Wait, what? You don't take ANY herbs?

No, you don't have to eat the feet, but I would suggest you to cook longer when making the broth in order to get most of collagen out of the feet. The feet broth is pretty much like chicken broth but barely any fat, just full with collagen. The fermented rice is fermented with yeast, it has a wine flavor. I don't know if it will go with edamame, since the original recipe is with cooked egg, I would think it works good with protein.
I don't have any pics, maybe I will post a after picture when I finally get a camera on ebay, keep getting out bidded, haha.

Not really, I got my growth mainly from massage + food, but I did try borage oil and royal jelly. I think they helped. About Hitomi, she was fully on food and massage, she perfers natural food source.

Hi fengshui,

I'm from Singapore.

I wanted to try fermented sweet rice for my grow as i got lots of small lumps for my both breast n i did remove 1 lump from my right side. but it grow back again. :(

I dun dare to take anything herds cos i dunno will it cos my lumps to grow biggier anot?

Anyway, i cant find this fermented sweet rice in singapore.
Do you have any sugguestion?
How it look like?

Babyhui.

Hi, sorry for the late reply. It's not hard to make fermented rice, here is the link you can check it out ( I assume you read Chinese?)

http://images.google.com/images?q=%E9%85%92%E9%87%80&ndsp=20&um=1&hl=en&start=0&sa=N

Since you are Singaporean, you can try the boobie soups + massages, and try this herb tonic, ask the herb doctor if this would work for you, it seems work for lots of girls.

http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/MsgL/07/2_CateL_180877_%E8%B1%90%E8%83%B8_218_1_1.html

Actually, for your condition (lumps) I don't know what's best for you, since the arcupunture works for you, check this link, it looks good, I am thinking buying this lady's book.

http://breastup.724.tw/

Hope you will find them helpful to you. :-)

Fengshui u r great.. :)

Yes i can read chinese but not very good..Hee....
Hmm... That means i cant buy ready make fermented rice in can or bottle in Singapore? Anyway i have print out how to make fermemted rice.:)

Now I am taking Borage Oil(3ea) 3times a day n also using the knuckles massage whenever i bath. Every night i will use EPO oil to massage.

For this herb tonic i will go check with my arcupunture doc:
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I have order WU also as i dont know how to mix the herbs which the forum ppl using it.And i will start using WU this weekend. Hope will grow from that.:)

The book looks cool but i dont lik eto read.. Too lazy ba... Heee...
But i read alot in this forum.. Wahahaaha....

Love u Fengshui.
Babyhui;)

I am trying to devise a plan for boobie growth. I am 5 months post lactating and can't take alot of the popular herbs here that others take. I am just starting to do a little more agressive massages now...Why did you choose wild yam for your booie batter? It does seem to be one that I can use. I know this is probly a stupid question, but what is EVO in the boobie batter?

I thought you could find the femented rice in Singapore? Few replies up, there is this girl Sarah she has it and I thought she lived in Singapore???

Since you order WU already, maybe you should just try it out first, it seems to work for lots of girls here, more is not always better. Best luck to you!! :-)

P.S. I didn't mean that you need to buy the book, I remember I read it on that website, the lady showed one technic "PAI-SA", it was showed on TW TV show before, seems to work quick, I forgot which section attached the clips, anyways, there are some good info on the website. :-)

I just gave wildyam cream a try because I hit a stall, so I was switching things around hoping to break it, but I don't remember it helped much for me or maybe I didn't give it enough time.

Do you mean EVOO? It's extra virgin oilve oil, I added it in for mobility. EPO is evening primrose oil.

I not sure Sarah is from Sningapore anot as i have read thru it, but she didnt say where she from.

Anyway u r rite i should try WU pills first since i have order it.
I jus cant wait to have some grow....

N i still goin for my arcupuncture once a week, as they say it need to complete 10 session to see the result.:( cant wait anymore so i have order WU.

Ya, I hear abt "PAI-SA" somewhere also.. I will go read up the web once i got time.

Is nice to have ur reply.
U r so helpful.. :)
Hope everything goes on well.....

Babyhui;)

Thank you for responding...I couldn't figure out what EVOO was. I am researching trying to figure out what to use to massage with and what I can take as well as do more aggressive massages and eat boobie friendly food. You are an inspiration girl!!

Fengshui, thank you for the breastup link. I kind of browse thru the web and learned a little about the Pai-Sa and Gua-Sa. I actually found out about the Gua-sa technique under your arms for BE from Dr.Bra forum but for some reason red dots didn't come out so I stopped doing it. I tried to imagine how to do Pai-sa but couldn't do it so I used the tradition Gua-sa and a lot of bright and darker red dots appeared on my left hand (less on the right) especially under the arms. I also have the "chicken skin dot" (the one she said it's really bad). if I have both then is it consider o.k or is it bad since she said the chicken type needs half of year of treatment. By the way, my arms feel lighter after one session.

Hi Fengshui! Thnx for all the info you are providing us. It has been really helpful!

About the fermented rice...is there a certain time that you are supposed to eat it...like before or after your period? cause I was reading a chinese site and i think it said to eat it before your period. but im not too sure as my chinese is not very good.

I was reading from this site http://info.china.alibaba.com/news/detail/v8-d5838686.html

Thnx in advance!

Also, could u help me translate these sites pls? They look like they have a bit of info and tips. I couldn't really understand the whole thing.
Thnx!

http://whx.tzgt.gov.cn/newOperate/html/11/117/1175/8422.html

http://whx.tzgt.gov.cn/newOperate/html/11/117/1175/6907.html

Hi fengshui

I am trying NBE without herbs and just massage. Not sure if I really have enough intake of good boobie food and don't want to mess with chicken feet. I thought I would ask for your opinion. I am taking 1000mg borage oil, geletin pills (for protien) and thinking about adding collegen and royal jelly. I am trying to eat a lot of peanut butter, tuna and nuts, and stay hydrated. Do you have any recommendations for me?

I don't know much about "gua-sa and pai-sa", maybe you can check these two links to get some ideas (you can also ask questions, there are lots of experts on there)

http://tw.knowledge.yahoo.com/search/search_result?p=%E5%88%AE%E7%97%A7&mc=0

http://tw.knowledge.yahoo.com/search/search_result?p=%E6%8B%8D%E7%97%A7&mc=0

I think both "gua-sa or pai-sa" are helping your "chi" flows and get rid of "blockages", maybe you can try avoid "cold" type foods and cold drinks, eat more "warm" type foods, also drink the "boobie helpful" teas (check food and drink page), see if your condition improves. After doing NBE a while, my cold hands and feet improved a lot, worth a try!! Hope this helps. :-)

Those websites are just talking about the same things--boobies food + massage (or exercises, such as swimming, running, tennis, yoga...). you can find these info on my programme and tigerlily's (plus the food and drink page here), there are couple recipes were posted on TW forums but nobody tried it (nobody metioned they tried), maybe because it's take time to make. When on food + massage method, it's better to use something simple and easy to get so you can stick with it. Nothing will make us grow fast, coz it's takes time and patience. I will find time to translate those two recipes and post them on food and drink page (if I find out what "chin-yi" is, I have no idea what it is.) Good luck on boobie journey!! :-)

I think you can just start with what you listed, should be good. If you don't have cramps during periods and cold hands and feet, it might just work with massage + good nutritions. Maybe you can add soy milk? avocado and asparagus are good, too. Borage oil and royal jelly seem to work for lots of girls on TW forums, if you like sea foods, clams, oyesters, shrimps will be great (once a week should be good, just go to a buffet and get your money worth)

As I remember, royal jelly are recommend 4000mg daily (be4 bed)on TW forum, but there were some girls only take 2000mg and got growth. I don't know if it's ok to take that much, though. Hope you do some reseach on that. ( I think I tried 2000mg royal jelly when I hit the stall last time, got some fluctuations, I didn't take it for long I think, just not a pill-popping-person, hoho) I do remember there were girls said that they respond to royal jelly fast on the Aphrodite's forum. Worth a try I guess. Hope this helps. :-)

Hi Fengshui

Thanks for your programme, it is very helpful. I am really interested in Chi Massage, I've found there are many girls have successfully enlarged their breasts through Chi Massage, I would like to try it as I am a slow grower, and thought it might help to succeed my C cup dream easier and sooner. I've tried to understand the chi massage steps which you posted on your programme, however I've found it hard to understand the technique without any pictures guide as my English is not good enough, just see if you have a link to check out?

I am really desperate, please help......

I didn't use "chi" massage, I use knuckles massage and there is no picture links, sorry. Because I learned the massage method from TW forums and some I came up myself. But the idea kinda came from "pansyclub" massage. If you check both links maybe you'll get a better idea of how to do it.

My massages:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/486111/thread/1156266984/last-1203817568/Fengshui+explanation+of+MASSAGE

Pansyclub massage:
http://www.breastnexus.com/p-massage.html

Hope this helps. :-)

Hi Fengshui

I am greatly appreciated for your advice. I remember you said it took you about 2 months to see initial result, what cup size are you now? How long does it take you to achieve the size you are having now?

I think I am 34 D now, but it still veries from bras. I fit all the 34 D 1/2 or 2/3 cups, 34 C soft cups (my boobs will snug out on top) don't fit 34 C hard cup at all.

It has been a long time, can't really remember. I think it took me 2 months to see better shape, six months to be a small D, somthing like that. I am a bit bigger on top now then after I stopped my programme due to weight gained I believe. (7 lb.)

Hi Fengshui

Wow congrats to your result, D cup is great, I wish I could grow mine boobs in short 6 months like you, but I believed I'm an extremely slow grower, it's gonna to be a long journey for me.

The thing worries me most is weight gain, I've gained 2 kg within 2 weeks when I first started NBE........Anyway today is exactly one month into NBE, I haven't gain anymore weight so far, and I hope I won't.

I was wondering do you experience any growing pain or tingling at all while your boobs are growing?

I didn't gained much weight when I was on my NBE programme, because I didn't change my diet much (only tried to avoid no no foods), I had my boobies soups at lunch.

I don't remember ever feel pain or tingling, though. But I did grew.

Hi Fengshui

I really don't know why I put on so much weight in a short 2 weeks as I am hardly ever put on weight, I didn't change my diet, except I started to drink no fat soy milk since I start to take PM, I guess it might cause weight gain????? I started to walk at least 30mins 5 days a week now hopefully I will be back to 42kg soon.

Could you please tell me how to make home-made soy milk? I live in Australia, I can't get soy milk machine, I was wondering can I use blender? (Hope I could get more protein out of home-made soy milk but without gaining weight)

I started the pressure points breast massage with knuckle couple of days ago, refer to Tigerlily explanation of massage techniques, she said need to push down deeply but I found it is very painful, it is normal? or I might have blockages?

Hi Fengshui

Sorry I forgot to ask, Do you know what is Borage oil? Thanks

There are some girls gain weight from herbs, you can search the forum to see if there is anything you may add to avoid it.

Here is a video link for homemade soy milk, you can also google it for some different recipes. Some westeners don't like the true soy taste (though I love it myself).

http://www.ifood.tv/recipe/homemade_soymilk

You may have blockages or you may do it too hard. Try to do a bit lighter massage until you gradually get use to it.

Borage oil is a supplement contains omega 6 and GLA, see this link.

http://www.puritansale.com/pages/file.asp?xs=A2E9D625F9FD45E1AF4577022BA2AE73&PID=666&CID=&CPID=1190

Hi Fengshui

Thank you so much for all of your info, I am greatly appreciated for your help!

I used to love drinking Asian soy milk (the sweet one) from the cafe in HK & TW, but I can't drink it anymore cos it just too sweet for me now, I am drinking western soy milk from the supermarket which is no taste, I probably love the real taste of home-made soy milk.

I was wondering have you heard of UNT skincare from TW? I have some pigmentation on my left boob and a bit on my left nipple after childbirth which made my breasts look uneven (one look bigger than the other, but they actually same size), therefore I search for some good whitening products, then I found UNT official website, it's look and sounds good, I would like to try their EX White for the pigmentation for my breast and Plush Blush for my nipples, what do you think of their products?

Sorry for asking too much +_+

No problem.
I have lived in U.S. for 13 years, so I have never heard of UNT skincare. I gooled it from a TW's forum, you can check the link see what TW girls say about the products.

http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/Forum/07/SearchTopicL.asp?BoardNum=2&Key=UNT

Or you may ask question on the forum.

Fengshui... do you think you could use the soup as bases for other foods? I haven't started making the soup but I think I may get sick of having it everyday. Do you think I can use the soup to make congee or something like that? Would it work just as well as having the soup on its own?

Sure you can. Actually that's exactly what I meant and have been doing.
Use chicken feet BROTH to make any soups you like.
On my second round, I don't eat the feet any more (just tired of it now), so when I make the feet broth, I cook a lot longer (2~3 hrs.)to make sure that I get most of gelatin/collagen out of the feet, then discard the feet, use the broth as base to make different soups.

Hi Fengshui

I am a good cook, however I am not good at making soups, but I am very lucky, my dad is a chef, I asked my dad to cook some chicken feet soup for me, then he made a big pot of Traditional Cantonese Chicken Feet Soup for me, it about 5-6 days worth, I have been having the soup for the last 2 days, it was so yummy...the soup contains chicken feet, papaya and peanuts. Do you think these ingredients are good combinations?

Where can I get Borage oil? Does it has other names?

the soup contains chicken feet, papaya and peanuts are really great combinations!! You are lucky to have a dad who is a chef!! :-)

Just some suggestions, when you are tired of the plain soup, you can use the feet broth to make egg drop soup, wonton soup, beggi soup, noodle soup,....you know, pretty much any soup using the broth.

Borage oil is starflower oil, you should be able to find it at health stores, even supermarkets.

Hi Fengshui

You are my inspiration and thanks for your great help. I love soups very much, but I can't eat same thing all the time, I'll definitely take your advice, I will use the broth to make something else. Hopefully I will see some result by eating boobie food combined with firm massage everyday, I really can't wait.

Hope I will have some good news to report soon.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/371678/thread/1211610260/last-1211616606/yin+yang+info

Remembered you've mentioned about using bras to redistribute the fat to your breasts on the thread, I was wondering are these bras help to redistribute after a period of time? Thanks

Sorry I forgot to drop the link, http://www.chicshaper.com/Default.asp?bhcp=1

Yes, I think it will help but it takes months to reshape, and you need to keep doing the "adjustment" many times a day to keep (scoop in) the fat into cups, eventually the fat will be reshaped. I have something similar to that, but it's not very comfortable, hard to wear it in summer time.

i got hydrolized collagen and borage oil to start your program. but i was wondering do i have to add gelatin to that too, or is that covered in the collagen? also could i substitute the collagen pills out for a protein bar or tuna fish every now and then? thanks for your time!!!!

Thanks, kay. I only use natural/fresh foods for my programme, I don't have experience in collagen/gelatin pills or protein drinks, but it doesn't hurt to try. So here is just my 2 cents. Collagen should be good enough, you don't need to add gelatin, just take up to the amount allowed as the direction (I read somewhere says collagen works better with V-c and calcium?). About the protein bar, I don't know if it will be enough because some people use it to lose weight? (and we are trying to "gain weight" in our boobs), maybe you can try protein drinks? And tuna fish is good, not sure it's powerful enough, though. In my own experience, clams, oysters, mussels,shrimps work better. Once or twice a week should be very helpful, to save, just go to a chinese buffet and get your money's worth. :-)

thank you sooo much! i really really appreciate your advice :) i am very envious of you and i hope to have similar results. thanks again!

I found these while looking for Thai Breast Massages. Is this method helpful? Can you understand what they are saying? I know the comments on the facebook site itself are rude, but their are always stupid people out there. Anyway I was just wondering if you or Tigerlily could translate, and if theses massages would actually increase breast size over time?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEvP_GfFvEs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Ai3bhXIcA&feature=related

There are many other breast massage videos on that site too, but they seem rather questionable. Thanks for any help or input.

Here is other ones, are they any good for breast enhancement and what are they saying?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5-k-ZtBpcY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtkYZ82d8Yg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT6liucdICg&feature=related

This one they talk alot and there is writing on it. Is there really a purpose for these massages?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMY_7VtUb44&feature=related

Hi, those videos are speaking Japanese, I can't understand, maybe you can post them on the main forum, there are some ladies speak Japanese can help you.
Those massages seem more like for shaping and relaxing to me. Still good for boobies. Personally, I feel firm massages work better for me.

hey fengshui, what lotion did u use to masssage your boobs?

When I first started my programme in 05' I used baby oil (wash off afterwards), it worked well.
Now I am just experimenting and playing with stuff. Currently I apply a layer of natural blam first (contains borage oil, emu oil....) then use a boobie batter mixed of V-e, flaxseed oil, cocoa butter oil, and epo to do the massage, seems to work.

What is tremella? I saw it listed in your OP. And what is it's purpose?

Also, I saw mention of "boobie no no's" Did I miss a list of good and/or bad foods?

I'm AA-A cup. Wanting a big B or small C.

Did your menstral cycle change any while you were doing these things?

I must have somehow skipped down when I was reading it the first time. I see your lists now. Thanx.

Some people call tremella white/snow fungus.
My menstral cycle has pretty much always been 28 days, it doesn't change because the programme.

its me again. i just wanted to make sure that i am doing enough for the program. i am taking 6 hydrolized collagen pills with vitamin c a day (recommended daily dose on bottle). also i am taking borage, fish and flax seed oil (3 in one combination) 1000 mg three times daily, and my daily vitamin. i drink a glass of milk atleast once or twice daily and try to eat protein (steak and chicken i dont like much sea food other than fried clams), and vegges the most i can. i also am taking fenugreek extract 500 mg three times daily cause i heard it may help. i just started this program and i was hoping you could let me know if you think i am doing enough. is there anything i need to add or that i am doing wrong? thank you sooo much for your time! i really appreciate it!

I am drinking the chicken feet soup every day at lunch, and soy milk everyday at breakfast. And 1000mg borage seed oil in the morning and another 1000mg borage seed oil at night. Do you think this will be enough?

It is also affecting my period. Should I quit the borage while on my period?

And what does the collagen do?

Your programme seems good, just give it a couple of months to try out. Some people response to very simple programme, even just with soy milk. Make sure you do enough massage, though. Not really length (time) wise, but frequency. IMHO that if you do 10~15 min. in the morning and 10~15min. at night would work better than just do a whole hour at once.
I think you need to take collagen on empty stomach,
here is what I think you can try, take the pills before 20 push-ups (the easy ones, just against a table), then massage, then drink/eat your boobie food (milk or soy milk...).
Just a suggestion, hope this helps. :-)

Chicken feet soup is rich in collagen/gelatin that will help us to grow breasts tissue, something like that.

About borage oil, how bad is it affecting your period? Or is just your body adjusting to it? From what I read in TW forums, they say if you have cramps, keep taking it, if not, you can skip it. I take it when on periods, too even if i dont have cramps. My period does get shorter or longer cycle once in a long while, but most of time they are pretty much on time (28 days).

If you don't feel borage oil is helping you, maybe you can try evening primrose oil, or just stop taking it, the soup may just be enough for you.

thank you sooo much for your help. i am going to stick with what im doing and add in what your suggestions were. i really appreciate your time and help! how long do you think it will take to start to see results? i know its not gonna be a quick fix im just looking for something to try to go by timeline wise (even though i know everyone is different). thanks again so much for your time!

Hi, kay, sorry for the late reply.
I really can't tell you how long it would take, because the age, weight, health.... difference. If you're not too skinny (BMI 19 and above), and young (well, younger than me :D), good health (for exemple, regular on time periods, no cramps, no cold hands and feet..), I think if you give it a good two months you should see some changes.

This is just how I feel just from my personal experience on my second round (I think my "blockages" are pretty much gone after my first round I was more strick on boobie food/90% good on no no food), I always feel my breasts fuller or even measure a bit larger the next day if I go to bed earlier, do couple good massages with 1 egg @ lunch and 1 egg @ dinner, borage/omega 3-6-9 before bed/ sometime with 1 tbsp fermented rice the day before.

So, since I don't know your stats, I think may be after 2 months, you don't see much changes, you can try increacing the protein in your diet (personally I prefer natural foods, such as eggs if your health is ok with it) and maybe zinc 30mg+(I get that from enough seafoods), and see if that would help.

Hope this helps, good luck. :-)

P.S. After two months I think it's good to start keeping a boobie journal and see/feel how your body response to what you are eating and doing. Of course it will be even greater with pics for yourself. :-) I also use a "reference bra", because sometime we are growing "volume-wise", it doesn't show on measuring tape, but you can see/feel boobs fill out better.

thanks again! youve been a great help to me. in case you were wondering my stats are: good health, 23 years old, 109 lbs, 5'4 height, 32B bra. ive uped my protein intake alot so im hoping that helps. thank you again!!!!

Erm, where can I get such boodie butter?

I am sorry, I don't know which boobie butter you are referring to.
If it's about the mixture, I just use the caps of borage oil, v-e, flaxseed oil, epo, and a bottle of cccoa butter oil I picked up @ walmart. usually I break one each and add in a bit cocoa butter oil.

If it's about the balm, I found it on ebay when I was searching for borage oil, it's not for massage, but I think with all the good stuff in it and it's all natural and home-made, plus good price, so I thought I'd give it try. I apply a thin layer of this balm (see link), then use the mixture above to massage. I feel it's working for me.

Here is the Ingredients: Shea Butter, Mango Butter, Emu Oil, Rosehip Seed Oil, Borage Oil, Evening Primrose Oil, Jojoba Oil, Grapeseed Oil, Soy Wax, Natural Vitamin E.

Check it out if you are interested.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2oz-Eczema-Balm-Cream-Emu-Primrose-Borage-Rosehip-Oil_W0QQitemZ190235235952QQihZ009QQcategoryZ21205QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I do think a good massage is more important then what batter you use, but the boobie batter I use now seems to work well even if I only do about 5 min or so massage each time now (just too lazy~~~), i am getting back my boobs from the weight lose (also been drinking that extra-punch chicken feet soup.) :-)

Hi Fenshui, your program is amazing, I am going to try and figure out your massage so that I can add it to my routine. You mentioned that your program would work if in good health... I think I am in pretty good health but have cold hands and feet a lot and cramps with my period, will that hinder me?
Thanks:)

Also, I can't find chicken feet would boiling chicken bones work?

Thanks, Dani. I think if you can get rid of your cold hands, feet and cramps the Chinese NBE menthod will work better and faster (because your "chi" will flow better and less "blockages")
If you use chicken bones or pork ribs to make broth is still good, the cooking time maybe a lot longer to make the broth, though. I make ox tail soups sometimes as my boobie soup (I throw in green papaya in it, tastes good), the broth turns jelly-like after chilled,too. But I have to discard the fat from the broth, it's just too much fat.

Thanks for the response, I appreciate it! How would I go about fixing the cold hands etc?

Just try to avoid "cold" type foods and drinks, drink the boobie teas (can be found in food and drink page) that will help "chi" flow. Or just make ginger root brown sugar tea will do. If your condition permits, a small glass of hard liquor before bed will also help. I had cold hands and feet while on my first NBE attempt, I still grew, but the progress was slow. it takes time to improve, but it's good for overall health, stay younger in the long run.

Thanks again, I will try that and see how it goes!

Wow! Great results!

I was just wondering how long it took you to get to the results you are at now? OR better yet how long did it take you to get to a small D/Full C?

Thanks

Thanks :) it took me about 6 months or so from loose B to small D/full C. The beginning 2 months I only got better shape, not much growth in the first 4 months, the better growth came in at 5th and 6th month, then I hit a stall for a long time, so I stopped my programme in FEB, 07. I somewhat back to my routine Apr. 08, just basically boobie soup everyday with just a little massage (5 min.or so, not even everyday), currently maybe 1.5cm bigger than before. I now try to focus on my left breast (almost one cup smaller than the right one), if they even out I will update pics.

I am a small B right now and would love to be a fullC or small D.

So the only things you really did to increase your size are the massages, Borage Oil, Soy Milk, Boobie foods and most importantly chicken foot soup?
I love chicken foot soup, my mother used to make it, but I do not know how to prepare the chicken feet. Perhaps I will try.

What factors do you think attributed to your increase in size?

Thanks for your response.

Hi Again!
I made broth with Turkey bones, boiled them for 2 and a half hours, but after chilling it, the broth isn't jelly like...does that mean there isn't enough collagen in it? Thanks!

hey there fengshui. i just want to tell you that i've been following most of your routine for myself and it has been the only thing to work for me. it's only been 1,5 months so far and i'm already at a two inch diference! and btw i have to say that you have the absolute most perfect breasts i have ever seen. keep up the great work!

I had the best growth rate when I switched to chicken feet soup + once a week (lots) seafood, and I do think the borage oil gave me a good boost.
Making chicken feet broth is just like making chicken or any other home-made broth. Wash them good and boil them for a good 2~3 hrs. til the broth color is milk-like.
I don't really know what factors, I guess by massage them pressure points, clear the "blockages", so the energy from boobie foods can be "led" to boobs and make them bigger. :)

P.S. on TW's NBE forums, the girls did mention the borage(seed) oil has to be made by "cold press" method, I don't know why, but I made sure I bought the right one.

It's ok,you already take gelatin packs and protein shakes, that should be enough. Green papaya pork-rib soup is also wellknown boobie soup in Taiwan, doesn't has much gelatin but more fat in it. So it's up to how much your boobies can absorb, so in Chinese NBE method to "clear the blockages" are very important.
There is no need to over-eat, or you may gain weight before you gain boobs. Just drink some boobie soups after massage will do. (so the food goes where is "hungry") :)
The key is really "persistence", not eat a lot. Hope this helps.
P.S. I feel do a good massage morning and night even just 10~15 min each time works better than a 1 hr massage one time a day.

Thanks so much for your compliment, that's so nice of you. :)
I am so happy my programme is working for you, you have really amazing fast growth, best luck to you!! I hope my left breast will even out with the right one then I will be done, been a looooooong journey~~~~~ haha.

Thanks! It's easy to overeat trying to get in all of the things I know are good for growth so I'll try and just be more consistent. I am still trying to figure out the massages, I think I have a pretty good idea what I am doing for the most part, the slapping part confuses me a little,lol.
I'm not feeling any pains or anything yet though.

That's OK, I never had any pain or tingling, I still grew.
I wonder if you read the further explanation for the "slap & grab", here it is, hope it helps.
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how to slap the breast and grab it with the fingers at the same time. on contact with the breasts with the slap, you then move or curl your fingers in to make a grabbing action.
use left breast for exemple,use your right plam "slap" upwards from the bottom of the left breast, then curl in your fingers for "grabbing". so, it's the plam first, then fingers. as you are slapping and curling(grabbing) so fast, they are almost like happenning in the same time. for my left plam, I slap the left breast more from the left side of the left breast and upwards too. you hands are just like holding ice cream cones upside down. so, "slap" and "grab" with both hands in turns. vice versa for right breast.

Hi Fengshui,

I think the cold pressed oil means it doesn't have alcohol in it as alcohol isn't used in this method of extraction.

Thanks for posting pics, you have great shape - any tips for roundness? Mine are pecs, gap, then bottom heavy boob not one round shape.

hey fengshui! i just wanted to add that i, too, struggle with uneven breasts, but that your routine i'm following has really helped with that the most. mine is the right one tho. i massage it for twice as long, if not longer every night and that seems to really work out well. i hope for the best for you

Thanks, Louise, it's good to know why than just how, hehe. :)
About the shape, maybe it's kinda from knuckle massage? Because I see Tigerlily has a round shape, too.
I do think Bradelis bras contribute a big part of it and some of my growth. I have been wearing Bradelis bras only for more than 2 years and do the "bra adjusting" (see fengshui's bra fitting on reference page) constantly every chance I get.
One massage I think helps filling up my upper breasts is this--
for my right breast, I put my left hand on my rightside tummy, then put my right hand on top of my left hand, then try push (hard) the tummy fat up all the way (over nipple)to my collar bone. Vice versa for left breast. I learned this on TW's forum and it helps. I do it 5~10 times (each side)a day.
I also worry about my arms get bigger from doing massages, so I always rub my arms after massages.

P.S. I think maybe a wider band bra with 2/3 or 3/4 cup design could do something similar like bradelis, choose the ones that two cups are close together type, that will change the "gap" after wearing it for 6 months or so, if not faster.

Thanks for sharing. :) My right arm is bigger than my left arm, LOL, so I always hesitate to work too much of it, haha. Always something with me.

Okay, I think I get the idea of that massage technique now, I only have to be careful not to wake up the kids when I do it,lol.

Hey Fengshui, Your piks are amazing. You have very beautiful breasts, wonderful shape and very large and so youthful looking. I have been looking up info in regards to Royal Jelly, it is so easy for me to get. Anyway I was wondering how well you liked it, do you think it was a supplement you would not have wanted to be without or was it an OK add on to you program. I have never used it or know of anyone that used it.. Do you give it alot of credit for your growth? Any input would be great. Also trying some of your massages and pressure points the best I can anyway, I am afraid I am not very good at it and hard to understand sometimes exactly what to do. But anyway you look so beautiful and am very happy you had such success. Take Care

Ok I bought a bra like you suggest and the style is great! I'm falling out of it! It's really lazyness with me, I should wear 30 band but I tend to wear 32 band non-wired for comfort...no wonder they're going East and West! I think I need to finish with Brava before I can get the maximum benefit from this as I don't think I'll get the new bra on in the morning at the moment, give me another 6 months or so.

Any luck with the fatty arms? I have this too. Actually your arms look fine in the pics, were they bigger before?

Thank you for your compliments!! :) NBE really works!!
I gave royal jelly a try after I hit a stall for a long time, it did give me a bit fullness and growth, I didn't take it long enough to root for it, because I am just not an pill-popping person. Plus I didn't take the amount that was recommended on TW forum (they recommended 4000mg a day, the bottle direction--500mg/cap 1~3 daily, I was taking 2000 mg a day, no guts to really go over). If you are not allergic too bee products, it's a great supplement to add, because I have read good growth rates on royal jelly, lots of girls responded to it fast, so it's worth a try.
Note, I was only on food and massage, so I don't know if it's ok to mix herbs and royal jelly, please get some opinions from the knowledgeable girls on the forum to make sure if it's ok to mix royal jelly and herbs or if 4000mg is a safe amount.
P.S. Maybe you can try out 2000 mg and see how it goes, there were some girls felt 2000mg was working for them.
I was 38 when I tried it, maybe it's not royal jelly to blame that I didn't get a fast boost. Haha.

Yeah, none-wired bras are way more comfortable, but they are bad for shapes. Because lots of girls are using shaping bras for NBE in Taiwan and it really works. I always wear the band a bit tight (with deeper cups) so it can hold the shape of breasts and have them "trained" and grow. I don't know if it's good to wear tight band wired bra with brava, but if it doesn't bother with brava growth, it will help and pay off if you give it time, you do need to keep doing the "bra fitting" every chance you get, though. When used to the wired bras, they are not that bad. :)
P.S. I don't wear bra to bed.
My arms are not super big, but bigger than average girls, so I don't look so "delicate" haha, and my big/muscle arm make me look a bit chubby, they are a bit smaller after I lose weight, but still big. XD

Here is some info on Royal Jelly:

http://www.herbalextractsplus.com/royal-jelly.cfm

They recommend 1200mg 1-2x daily so not more than 2400mg.

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After your advice about bras I got a 30DD that I can wear for work (my massive morning swelling just pokes out the top and then throughout the day the swelling reduces until it fits normally) and a 28E out of interest. The 28E fits quite well and I see what you mean about better shape with a tight band, it feels a bit restricting when I first put it on but it's ok and it does 'keep everything together'! It's very exciting to get an E cup even though the cup is similar to a 34C but on a small band. I totally agree about the arms - just not delicate, I realy want to be tiny and delicate with nice boobs but think I've got a bit more work to do.

Just wanted to ask - the royal jelly you took, was it tablets or capsules? As far as you know should it be fresh liquid or dried powder?

Thanks Louise!! Looks like royal jelly is really good stuff, I also read the royal jelly post from Chocogirl on reference page, maybe I will try it a again soon. I am now on Maca for booty, been over a month, no luck yet, maybe due to lack of exercise?! I want to give it more time, really want some booty to go with my boobs, haha.

The royal jelly I used was softgel capsule, really cheap, here is the link, they have international flat rate shipping I think.
http://www.puritansale.com/bee-products-038/royal-jelly-500-mg-softgels-007140
I guess it's stablized liquid/jelly.

And while on my weight lose, I took bee pollen (1 tab before bed)because I read on TW forum there was one lady said it will help to keep the boobs on weight lose, I did get to keep my boobs plus a bit more, maybe it helped.

http://www.puritansale.com/bee-products-038/bee-pollen-complex-tablets-004390

I will update if any changes on boobies or booties. :)

P.S. I don't know why, I haven't been able to find anything like 32 DD/E/F or any smaller band anywhere to try on, I guess there are more skinny girls with big boobs in UK (not that I am skinny with big boobs, hehe) :)

Bee pollen is also in WU - I think I will give these bees a go!

The bras I get in small band big cups are from Freya - it's a designer brand so should be available internationally. Also, have you looked in the 'large cups' or 'fuller bust' section? I always thought I'm so small so I never looked there but that is where these sizes are. Freya bras are cupsizes D-G only but they have an amazing range of band sizes. After wearing the 28E for even a few minutes I swear my boobs are a nicer shape (like yours!).

Hi Fengshui

Thank you for posting your pics, you've got an amazing shapes, you are my inspiration.

I've been away from the forum for quite sometimes, I only grew very little in these 6 months journey, I have set my new goal after I saw your pics, I'm praying to have a pair of boobs just like yours by the end of next year and ready for my wedding, keeping my fingers so crossed my wish will come true.

Thanks, babe.
I know sometimes it gets really hard, but it's doable. I am sure you can make it happen. If you are skinny, it may take a bit longer, just stick with your plan, you will succeed before you know it. You will be the most beautiful bride in the world!!! :)

To Louise,
hey, girl, I kept forgetting to mention, don't know if you had tried the smaller band with front clips bras? those really give deep (even better) cleavage. :)

i am looking for tremella and i only found it in pill form?
where do you get yours?

Hi, sorry for the late reply, I bought (white)tremella (dried, packed in bag) at Asain supermarkets, it's a very common item also very cheap, just takes long time to cook it.

is tremella good for you?
I found it inline in pill form and read fermented foods are good for yeast problems also.

u r my inspiration on the board and im going to try your program full throttle as of tomorrow.

Yes, tremella is great for skin for sure, it's well-known in TW. I have seen quite a few older ladies with tight and young-looking face all eat tremella reguarly. (have read some TW girls got good results on tremella for NBE also)
Don't know much about fermented foods and yeast problems, but form my own experience, fermented rice did help my NBE, if you read Chinese, you can google these two female TCM doctors (see link), they both recommend fermented rice for NBE. (fermented rice is very popular for breast-feeding moms to produce milk in TW)

http://www.join-us.idv.tw/

Hope this helps, good luck on your NBE. :)

Hi Fengshui, I have been searching for Acu-Treat Electro Accupunture as part of breast massage. It is an electronic device that sends electric waves I guess. My chiropractor uses it on my sinus cavities across my cheek bones, just a hand held device that has a small needle in it and sends electic shocks. Anyway wondering if it would help stimulat growth for breasts. If you used it on the pressure points I was wondering it it would help. I found them on sale on the net, anywhere from $79 to $200. Just wondering what your thoughts are on this.

hi feng shui,is their any substitite for soya milk/milk? like a green drink or something?

I've never tried any device or read anybody using that kind of device, so I am not sure. If your chiropractor uses it on you and it helps with your problem, I don't see why not trying it with NBE. (it sounds like it could hurt a bit???)
Still, boobie foods play a big part in TCM(traditional Chinese Medicine) NBE programme, and boobie massages are also needed. Hope this helps. :)

Maybe you can check the food and drink recipes page, there are some boobie teas, or check fullness' programme (see link).
http://www.network54.com/Forum/482052/thread/1200326788/last-1206992073/Fullness++Green+Papaya+program+page%20full

I want to try fermented rice but can never find it at my local asian market. I can't even ask the people there where I could find it because they don't speak english and I don't know how to say it in chinese. Can you tell me how to say fermented rice in mandarin or cantonese?

Hi, you can check this link, that's what fermented rice looks like,
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=%E7%94%9C%E9%85%92%E9%87%80&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2

You can print this page (see link) out and show it to Asain market people see if they sell something like that. (this is the brand I buy, but there are different brands, some with herbs, all can use for NBE)

http://www.koeyufoods.com/index.asp?version=3&root=103&newsid=14

Hope this helps. :)

Hi Fengshui, still amazed at your progress and look forward to updated piks. I was wondering if you could post the links to the TW forum. There is a way to have the computor translate, but I have to find it yet. anyway thanks if you can post links to TW forum.

Thanks, Snowflake, I am not really doing the routine right now, but still on maintance (quick massages when shower) and boobie soup and drink. I am quite happy with my current size, wouldn't mind bigger, though. If I get some more growth from this simple fix, will update pics. :)

Here are some TW links:
http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/MsgL/2_CateL_169422_%C2%D7%AF%DD_218_1_1.html
http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/MsgL/2_CateL_156550_%C2%D7%AF%DD_218_1_1.html
http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/MsgL/2_CateL_187561_%C2%D7%AF%DD_218_1_1.html
http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/CateL/2_%C2%D7%AF%DD_218.html

http://www.urcosme.com/boards/board2-sn136148-3.htm#136148

You can try this translation website, I haven't tried it, don't know if it's good. (P.S. In TW we use Chinese-trad, not Chinese-simp)
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/

Hi, fengshui. You've been a great help to me. I've gone from a B to a C cup, and hopefully I'll reach a D eventually! Thanks so much for all the wonderful information you've provided. It's changed my life!

I was wondering if there were any teas that I can drink, besides herb teas for growth, that are safe for NBE? I know green tea and black tea have a negative effect, but I love drinking tea and would really like to have a cup every now and then. I can't take the NBE herb teas yet because I consider myself too young to take herbs. So are there any harmless teas that I can drink?

Hi Fengshui!

I have a lot of Asian markets around me and bought chicken feet but I wasn't able to find green papaya powder (to make tea). Do you know if it goes my a different name? I saw an online site that sells green papaya at 28 bucks a pound but that sounds like a rip off to me. I love reading your thread. It is very inspirational to me. I have only had chicken feet soup for about a week and I see feel the fullness although it doesn't read it on the measuring tape yet.

Hi Egg! Is this what you are looking for?

http://www.gardenofwisdom.com/catalog/item/4019956/3791824.htm

http://www.gardenofwisdom.com/catalog/item/4019956/3791812.htm

If can try this tea receipe from "fullness", the ingredients are not anything strong, kids can drink it, too. Those are widely used for Chinese soups.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/482052/thread/1200326788/last-1206992073/Fullness++Green+Papaya+program+page%20full

And black tea is fine for NBE, just wait couple of hours if you are taking herbs or any TCM tonic.

No need to get paranoid, you can still enjoy green tea once in a while. Or if you like ginger tea, that's helpful for NBE. There are some teas on Food and drink receipe page, maybe you can find something you like. Hope you get to D soon. :)

Thanks CoCo for the links!! Is that what you are looking for, Egg?
I have never seen green papaya powder at Asain markets, either, and green papaya fruit is around $0.69~$1.29/lb. depends on season. You can add green papaya to your chicken feet soup, tastes good.
Glad my programme page is helpful to you, best luck on your NBE. :)

Oh good, I'm so glad that black tea is okay, especially since it's my favorite! I'll try to get decaffeinated varieties. Thanks for the recipe and tips!

hi fengshui! im about to start with an nbe program and stumbled upon yours. Right now the only thing I have is soy milk that I plan to mix with green papaya powder and I think I asked u in a separate post about where to buy sesame seed powder coz I wanna mix that in my smoothie too. Anyway, I have a few questions about your program:

-Where do u buy borage oil? And what do u do with it? Do you take it as a capsule? If so, how many mg a day?

-What do you mean by hot soya? Just soy milk that u heat?

-Where do u buy fermented rice? Do you just mix it with hot soy milk?

-And the chicken feet broth, do u make it everyday? Or do u make a batch then just heat it up when u eat it? I don't cook at all so I don't even know how to make broth. How many pieces of chicken feet do u use with how much water?

Sorry my questions are really silly. Hope u don't mind me asking. Thanks! :)

Hi, I bought my borage oil on line (see link), pretty good deal. I took 1000mg softgel, 3 a day with meal the first month, 2 a day the second month, 1 a day the 3rd month. I also used it for massage.
http://www.puritansale.com/womens-vitamins-023/borage-oil-1000-mg-softgels-007732

I only drink hot soy milk, for convenience, I use powder soy milk packs, just mix with hot water or my hot coffee as creamer.

I buy fermented rice at asain market, I mix it with soy milk, sometimes I eat it as is. (usually 1 or 2 tbsp. at a time)

I always make chicken feet broth a batch (usually around a week's worth) then heat it up daily. Here is the link for how to make chicken feet broth, you can use more water for it to boil down.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/498380/thread/1147375452/last-1233716314/Receipe+for+CHICKEN+FEET+SOUP
or this one
http://www.network54.com/Forum/498380/thread/1233432278/last-1233597305/Susie%27s+Chicken+Feet+Soup

Glad I can help, good luck with your NBE project!! :)

hi fengshui..do u eat sugar and how much do you smoke?your diet seems so diciplined as far a carbs and sugar.also did you think you were balanced hormonally previous to starting ?I have some androgen symptoms with fine facial hair on sides of my face starting 6 months ago and i think estrogen dominance.do you think vitex and your program would interfere together?also do u think fish soup has quicker results due to hitomi's experience?

I do consume sugar, not much, but don't try to avoid it, just don't care for sweets too much. Did read it somewhere says too much sugar is not good for NBE, maybe you can search for that. I do smoke a lot, pretty sure smoking and being a night person related to my slow growth. I smoke about 1.5 packs a day.
Not sure if I was hormonally balanced or not, would guess I was, didn't have any symptoms.
Don't think vitex and my program would interfere with each other, it's just food and massage, I think it would be a plus to any NBE programme.
Chicken feet soup and green papaya seabass soup should work the same, feet soup just gives you more varieties because you can use the broth to make any soup you like, so you don't get tired of it. You can just drink them in rotation.

You mention about fermented rice on your program, just a quick question about preparing it, Do you know if sweet rice or regular rice is use? Or does it matter?

xoxo
Memee

Hey fengshui, how are you?!
Question, do you think I'll do fine without soy or do you think thats important for NBE? I asked you this before I Think but can't find the answer when I search so asking again incase.. also, I'll be eating the following foods:

Fermented rice, eggs, broccoli, carrots, wild yams, chicken feet soup, bread/rice, white tea, coconut oil, apple cider vinegar, collard greens, banana, yogurt, cheese, white seabass, goji berries, prunes,

Are there any cold foods in this list? And do you think this list is good enough for NBE? Since I will not be taking borage oil, only food and massages.
The main food dish will be chicken feet soup. The only boob dish u ate was also chicken feet soup and nothing else right? So the other meals were regular?

edit: Was soy powde+milk the most common soy you used?

Do you read Chinese? Here are couple articles on how to make
fermented rice, you need to use "sticky rice", not sure if it's called sweet rice.

http://blog.udn.com/allthingsconsidered/1323290?f_ORDER_BY=DESC&pno=1&

http://blog.udn.com/ef0936/2300347

Hi, I am doing great, thanks for asking.
I believe NBE can work without soy, youe list looks good, just stick with your programme, you will gain boobs I am sure.
I would suggest you switching the white tea to black tea if you want to drink it daily, but don't get paranoid, ok? Having "no no foods" occasionally is no problem, making a programme easy enough for you to stick with will bring you to success closer, otherwise you might get frustrated and give up and think NBE would not work for you.
Yes, my main boobie dish is the feet soup ( daily and throw in green papaya when reheating over 50% of the time) and seafood once a week. And besides the soup, I just eat regular meals (just try avoiding no no food if I can)

The soy milk I use is just soy powder packs mix with hot water or coffee, does not contain milk, I basically don't drink (cow)milk.

Thanks Fengshui, just out of curiosity, how come you don't drink cow milk?

I don't read Chinese, but I google it and found some recipes online, good thing you mention the sticky rice tho cause they didn't mention that. Anyways I've got some in the pantry so will try it and see how it works. Will let you know, thanks lotts!!

xoxo
Memee

You are welcome. :) I have read some articles about milk is not good human food, maybe you can google it see what you think. I never really like milk anyway. :)

I think "sticky rice" is called glutinous rice in stores.
Hope you can share the receipe on "food and drink" page. :)

fengshui:

thanks so much for answering my questions. I have a few more, I hope u dont mind :)

-what's a good brand for soy milk powder? Do u get it in an asian market? or is it available in regular groceries?

-what type of massage do u do? and how do u use a heating pad?

-also, what batter do u use for massaging? do u just use the borage oil?

thanks again soo much for sharing

Hi, I don't think the brand would matter, I tried all brands I could find in Asain supermarkets then stick with this one (see link if you are interested)cause I like the taste and it's not too sweet. It only costs me around $3.50/bag in stores (so you know :D)

http://www.amazon.com/Bing-Ladies-Instant-Soybean-Drink/dp/B000PGIPGU

The massage I do you can read it here,
http://www.network54.com/Forum/486111/thread/1156266984/last-1228997274/Fengshui+explanation+of+MASSAGE

I only used heating pad for a while, don't remember if it helped or not. You can put it on breasts after massage on med~low for 15~20 min.

I used baby oil from the beginning, it worked well. I also tried mixing borage oil with some stuff, here's my reply before, I re-post again.

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about the mixture, I just use the caps of borage oil, v-e, flaxseed oil, epo, and a bottle of cccoa butter oil I picked up @ walmart. usually I break one of each and add in a bit cocoa butter oil.
I do think a good massage is more important then what batter you use.
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Hope this helps. :)

Hey Fengshui, you know I think you growth has been amazing and so inspirational,, but I was just wondering your opinions about PM are? Have you concidered finishing off your routine with PM, if not why? And also what is the major opinion of PM on the TW Forum? It seems like a valuable herb for NBE to me, I have tried it and as soon as I get rid of some winter weight gain, intend to use it again along with your massages, which I have been doing regularly and also happy with the results I am seeing. Would really appreciate you input about PM. Hope all is well with you, take care.

I am very glad my programme can do some help. Did get some PM on Ebay due to Beth's success but never have the guts to take it because not sure if it's okay for smokers (I smoke a lot), and never use FG because worry about the smell (I already smell like cigarettes, haha). But PM does seem to work on lots of girls here, it's worth a try, I think.

PM doesn't seem to be popular in TW (from what I have read), most popular methods are foods, Chinese tonics, EPO, borage oil or royal jelly, all above methods require massages. There is this breast cream seems to work very well with massage but I can't find it in US, it's called "Leini Dahl DNA breast cream", it's cheap, around $7~9 a jar. There are few girls report bad side effects, though, such as fine chest hair growth, messed up periods, headachs,nausea, acne...Overall, most of girls got growth from it. Personally, I am not planning trying it.

If the massages are helping you, you can try eating some boobie foods @ lunch, that way you shouldn't get weight gain from it.
Then try the herbs you want after losing weight.
Hope this helps. :)

Thanks for your input Fengshui. I have quit smoking since end of October, mind you I have cheated a more than a few times, but overall, I have quit. I used Champix, doctor prescribed, it worked well, although did have some of the side effects. Very tired first 2 weeks, had a bit of bloating and alittle bit of depression, saddness, which could also be caused from nicotine with drawal, but once I got through that 1st month it was alot better. Over all, I don't think I could have done it without the Champix. But somedays it is still a struggle, cause now I am off the Champix. Didn't want the cigerettes messing with my hormones when I was on PM, cause this is the last try with any herb for me.
Anyway, I remember you mentioning about a pressure point right under the nipple, and your right, it does hurt like a son -of-gun, but I just started doing it gently and progressed with more pressure each time of massage. Anyway I think it has really helped too, if you can get past the initial pain. So i think your massages have helped alot and look forward to starting PM soon, I think they will give me a great start. The food is hard for me to get, but try and get the supplements you have mentioned, royal jelly, liked it. Sooo, thanks for all of the help and I really look forward to your up dates and final pik. Good luck with the rest of your program and take care.

Hi fengshui, does borage oil increase breast size? You said it helps in your nbe program. Although I heard it works like primrose oil..i don't understand how it can help in the breast growth?

I used to massage my breast with borage..but after i stop using for sometimes, the size went back..I thought the oil just give an instand boost to the chest area. Once i stop using it, it went back to same size as the oil wasn't stay long or wat....so i don't understand how will it help?
Can u explain as I may not know everything about borage :)

I don't know why borage helps with NBE, I am sure you can search the forum to find answers, something about GLA?
I took borage oil because some successful NBE stories on TW's NBE forums, so gave it a try. About the same period I started chicken feet soup. I don't know if I grew from borage or feet soup, maybe from both.

Only using borage for massage may not be enough, were you on any boobie foods? It is more likely that a programme exceeds six months for the growth to be permanent.

Fengshui, thanks for sharing :) Few years back I did nbe program. Now I do not take any nbe program..but am considering to try deborah's pm and robust.. Thought of trying chicken feet soup. I look at the recipe u gave. Sound easy and simply. Do I need a special pot to make broth? or any type will do? First time I heard that broth can be stored for a week !!! how much do u drink for a day? Is a small traditional bowl enough for a day?

You mention in ur recipe to put 14 cups of water or more..how big is the cup?

By the way, have u heard of this recipe?
http://www.network54.com/Forum/371678/thread/1238644291/last-1238644291/Does+anyone+heard+or+tried+this+boobie+recipe+recommend+from+a+taiwanese-

I got it from dr-bra website introduce from a lady few years back. so sad that now the website is no longer active. I can't even enter into the forum anymore.

Hi, just use a regular deep kitchen pot to make the broth.
I drink a bowl of boobie soup a day.
It's the measureing cup I used in the receipe. It really doesn't matter how much water you use. Say you use 28 chicken feet or so to make broth for a week's worth, you can use more then 14 cups of water to boil down to 14 cups, or you can boil it way down to seven cups (just more concentrated). When the broth is done, devide it for seven days, so, if you make 14 cups out of 28 feet, you drink 2 cups a day, if you only get seven cups of broth, you drink 1 cup a day. Of course you can add more water for each serving, as long as you drink the whole thing, you get same "quantity" of collagen for your boobies.

Here are the original threads for that drink you are asking, you should be able to find the ingredients in a Traditional chinese herb shop. (p.s. I have never tried, can't give advice)

http://www.urcosme.com/boards/board2-sn136148-3.htm#136148

http://www.urcosme.com/boards/board2-sn237034-3.htm

Hope this helps.

Thank u fengshui! this helps alot :) I can't get wild yam and ginkgo powder at traditional chinese herbal shop :( I had ask a few shops, all never sell ..anyway thanks alot for your help!!

Hi Fenshui,
It may sound odd...but I'm so happy I found you!
I saw you on another website, providing a lot of useful info, but the site closed down the thread (it was in 2006) and I thought, "darn...i missed out...." So when I found this site and saw you here I was pretty excited!

Your D cup journey is very inspirational! I am trying to follow your path.

I was 34C (36" upper & 30" lower) a few years ago when I was heavier, and I lost 15 pounds and dropped my cup size too...I now wear 32C, padded. When my period comes I can fill the 32C without padding....
But strictly speaking I'm really 32B!! (33" upper - 28" lower= 12cm difference). ...I want to drop 3 more pounds (to 110) and I don't wanna go down to an A!!!...I'm trying to get to D too. I was almost giving up until I saw your story!

-Every morning I drink mountain yam with soy milk.
-I try to drink the sweet fermented rice + cooked egg every other day or everyday.
-I'm taking both EPO & Borage Oil, 1000mg in the morning and 1000mg at night.
-I'm taking royal jelly. I'm also taking collagen powder & Q10.

-Green papaya fish soup: I actually read the thread on FashionGuide too and I started cooking green papaya & bass soup...but I'm a terrible cook and it tastes terrible, but I still make myself drink it at least 2-3 times a week...but i think after reading your program I'm going to switch to the chicken feet soup.

-Chinese medicine (8-treasure soup): I also went to see a Chinese doctor and he said my kidney & "chi" are weak, and advised me make this Chinese medicine soup that'll help. It'll also help regulate my period. Supposedly when my kidney & "chi" get stronger, my body will absorb the "boobie foods" more effectively.

I also massage myself...but usually just 20 minutes a day.

Do you think I still need to take pills?
I was thinking about taking Breast Gain Plus (Breast Actives) & Greenbush pills.....i heard they are very effective too... I'm trying everything I think can help!!
Thank you so much for helping us even after you've reached your goal! You rock!

I just realized that I've spent the last SEVEN HOURS going trhough NBE info online......and i only discovered this forum 2 hours ago.

the only break i took was--to go out and buy a heating pad!
... i'm worried that i've incurred a slightly unhealthy obsession.

Hi, good to "meet" you, too. :)
I think your programme seems great already, plus you are on Chinese herbal tonic, maybe you can give it a try before you try other pills.
Food and massage has worked for lots of girls, since you can find a good TCM herbal shop, have you read this thread on FG? Seems a good tonic to try, too.
http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/MsgL/07/2_CateL_303658_沋Ή_218_1_1.html

Anyways, best luck to your programme. :)

To Sandra:

hi, I am also trying this method (booby food and massage). I read your post and really interested in the Chinese medicine (8-treasure soup) that boosts kidney & "chi" to absorb the "boobie foods" more effectively. It would be great if you can share the recipe of this 8-treasure soup you are taking. Thank you very much.

You may most likely find it (8-treasure soup) pre-pack in asain supermarkets or TCM herbal shops. It's eight different Chinese herbs.
It will be good for you to consult with a TCM doctor to make the dose exact for you. If you find it, buy one pack to try out, not everybody can accept the taste.

hi fengshui, may i know what does all these mean?
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is it only me that i cant see your "diagram" with all the U that you used to describe them for massage? do enlighten me with thanks!

Dear fengshui,
I just wonder the kind of fermented rice you take is the white or black/purple one?

Thank you so much. Your result is so encouraging. I'm asian,too but I just hope to achieve your start ^_^!

Hi, if you feel comfortable leaving me your email address, I will send the directions of arrow signs to your email.
Because the "arrow signs" can not be displayed on the forums.

The fermented rice I take is white (that's the only kind I can find), I may try back or purple fermented rice if I find them. :)

hi fengshui, i ve pm you my email at aphrodite!
thanks so much =)

Thank you for your quick response!
My moon says the black or purple one is better for blood circulation ^_^, and it tastes awesome when eaten with yogurt.

can we make a series of movements in two stages, in the morning ten minutes and in the evening ten minutes or is that it works better twenty minutes.

Yes, it's fine, actually it's even better to do massage twice a day. Do it firm is more important than the extra length (time).

Thank you for your reply Fengshui.

So finally, 10 minutes morning and evening is something correct. ok.

I would like to know now how much does it roughly gelatin a day, because I can not find chickens feet easily in France. So I found another solution, making preparations gelatine pork that is in the form of sheets to melt, I currently take 200 to 250 grams per day is this enough?

Excuse me for my english..

Good morning fengshui !!

one last question please, is that these massages are without risk to health?

Hi, sorry for the late reply.
I have no idea how much gelatin you should take a day,
you may search the forum to find answers.
I believe massage breasts are great for our boobs, even just for health or shape reasons. :)

Good evening girls, fengshui !!

when you talk about blocking you, what do you mean?

What makes it a blockage?

Please see these two threads, hope I explained it right.


http://www.network54.com/Forum/371678/thread/1211610260/last-1211616606/yin+yang+info

http://www.network54.com/Forum/371678/thread/1150548016/Question+for+TigerLily-Fengshui

Hello Fengshui,

I hope you don't mind answering a few of my questions. Can you tell me what type of body shape you are (pear, hourglass etc) and where do you tend to gain weight? Do you gain weight evenly or more in your stomach or lower body?

Hi, I guess I am closer to hourglass shape (36.5-27-36.2),
when I gain weight it tends to be more in stomach, not much on boobs or butt.

Are you aware of anyone who is pear shape and have achieve sucess from this method? I'm in my 5 months of the method and I'm not seeing any results. I massage, eat chicken feet soup and drink soy milk daily (with the exception of lots of seafood I'm basically following your method), but beside acne and weight gain I've not seen any improvement to the bust line. I'm pear shape (gain weight in stomach, hips and thighs) and wonder if this is the reason for my lack of success? I've start to take borage oil to see if this will help, but it's really discouraging to put in nearly 6 months of effort and not seeing any payoffs. Should I drink more chicken feet soups and be stricter with my no-no foods? I would really appreciate your advice.

fengshui how much chiecken feet did you drink and how many times a day? and what elsee besides chicken feet, borage, and soy did you take?

hello fengshui! hello girls !

I did tests and I am both yin yang , what does this mean? I do massage every day, and I'm having pain is this normal?