I finally had time to post my program! Here it is:
Stats:
age: 20 soon 21 in 16 days yay lol
weight: 112 lbs
starting size: 34 A
non smoker
drink wine occasionally
LOVE CHOCOLATE
I started my plan officially on Monday Dec. 11th MY GOAL: 34 C
I started it like this, and will ramp up in a few weeks but starting:
BO 150mg 6/daily total: 900mg
Solaray female caps (220 mg BO, 20mg pituitary) 4/daily total: 880mg BO, 80mg pituitary
EPO 1,000mg 1/daily total: 1,000mg
L-tyrosine 500mg 2/daily total: 1,000mg
Kelp 150mcg 1/daily total: 150mcg
2 protein shakes daily
I also take a mulit-vitamin plus other things not related to NBE
I was also taking vitex, but this was before I got my BO stuff. I still don't know if I want to incorporate it or not. The reason I chose to take Solaray female caps was because of the pituitary gland, I think BB pills have that in there, so I decided on Solaray because it contains pituitary, it also contains a lot of other blends of herbs with it as well. I am also thinking about incorporating royal jelly as well soon. As for my diet, I am increasing more protein, eating eggs and things in the morning. I drink tons of water, I usually never drink soda anyway. And eating more fruits and veggies. I have an everlasting love for chocolate and unfortunatley can't kick the habit lol. But I am not eating as much as before.
Boobie batter:
I was using cocoa butter with vit E caps but I saw the cocoa butter bust firming formula and decided to give that a try, it contains collagen so hopefully it will work.
Massages:
I was doing the breast ailments massages but my boobs became mushy, so now I just massage from outside in 10 min before going to bed and then laying down with a heating pad for 15 min.
Exercises:
I have been doing push ups and chest exercises every other day. 20 pushups in the morning, 20 pushups at night. Bench press with 5 lbs weights with balance ball 10 morning, 10 at night.
I think thats it, if any one has any comments or anything you can post on my page I don't mind :)
So about after a month which was back in Decemeber of 06. I decided to stop the BO. I was afraid about it causing infertility and all that stuff, and since I am only 21 I really want to have kids someday. Anyways, well here is what I have been doing as of January 07:
It's been 6 months and I grew up 1 full cup so from a 34 A to a 34 B. YAY! My goal is a 34 C.
A.m
1 Vitex capsule 400 mg
3 Greenblush blend capsules (blend of Wild Yam, Saw Palmetto and Fenugreek) 575 mg
1 multivitamin
protein shake
mid afternoon
1 vitex capsule 400 mg
p.m
1 vitex capsule 400 mg
1 EPO
1 vitamin E capsule
protein shake
I also massaged using Palmers coco butter and vitamin E capsules and then a heating pad for 15 min.
I also ditched all the exercises too. After a month, I got lazy and decided to stop. Because I want the tops of my breasts to fill up, I think I will try these exercises again, which are the chest exercises mentioned in my first post. I also am going to start working out which I have been doing on and off these last 6 months,
In all honesty, I really didn't pay too much attention, like I wasn't obsessed about it like I was in the beginning. I measured every now and then but I think what gave me hope was kind of forgetting about it, because I would be easily discouraged if one day I lost some centimeters or if I focused on it too much then I wouldn't notice the changes, so I kind of forgot about it... not totally but I went on with my life instead of concentrating so much on my breasts. It does seem funny, but I think it helped a lot. And to tell you the truth, my daily regime became so routine that sometimes I forgot why I was doing it. LOL.
So thats my plan as of right now and has been since January, if you have any questions just ask, I will be happy to answer them :)
What brand protein shake do you use? I've tried 3 different kinds that I couldn't even bring myself to drink because they were nasty and chalky. You've been drinking them for 5 months or so now, so obviously you must've found a decent one you can tolerate! lol
Which brand of Vitex?
And finally (for now), how tall are you?
I couldn't tolerate those kinds of shakes like you said, I first got mine from Walmart, the gross body building kinds and I still have a half of the container left of that stuff. But now I discovered these wonderful shakes, I get them at my local health food store but GNC and most health food stores might carry them, here is a link I found:
These shakes have a variety of flavors and are super super yummy!! The brand is called Spirutein. I tried the cookies and cream one and it takes like cookies and cream!! There are tons of other flavors and they are really tasty. They also have another brand called Fruitein, I am drinking that one now. You probably also want to use a blender or a hand blender, because I noticed if you just try to stir the mix in with milk or water, it clumps easily so I use a hand blender when I do it. These are also pretty expensive IMO, I bought a small 34 g container for about $20, but I think its worth it.
The brand of vitex is Nature's Way, which I am currently using, I either use this brand or the brand called Soloray, its usually whatever I find when I run out.
I am 5'2. Yeah super short lol.
I hope that answers all your questions, feel free to ask more if you'd like
I am currently taking the Vitex 1600mg a day and 2500mg of BO a day. Did you ever ramp it up to the 2500 BO? I started at 1000, then 1500, then 2000 for about 3 weeks and didn't feel anything so I've upped it to 2500. Do you think that's too much. I would LOVE to have your results. I'm currently a 34B. Started as a 34B, grew to a 34C on BB, then when I stopped I lost some of it. Not all, but some. I also lost weight so that could have been why I lost it. Any suggestions you have would be great! Thanks for your time.
I just found a store that sells them in the single packets, so I've been trying out the different flavors... I just made their cookie dough one with ice cream and some milk ( and threw in some dark chocolate chips for the heck of it :P) and it was sooooooo yummy.
Hi Kari... What flavor shakes were you choosing before? The kind you got from walmart? I found that no matter what brand I was using if I bought chocolate and mixed it with hot milk it took away the chalkiness and it tasted just like hot chocolate. Just thought I'd mention because you said you still have alot of it left. That stuff is too expensive to waste!
Sorry, I have been out of town for a few days and have did not have access to a computer. Anyways...
Deb, the highest of the BO that I took, was about 1800 mg to start with, I actually never did ramp up. I only took it for about 4 weeks, and then quit. Since you ramped up, I don't believe its too much. I remember reading on the BO forum that a lot of girls did ramp up and they saw really good results with going so high with the mg. I have noticed it does take time for my body to get used to something, It took me 6 months to see those results and I was really patient. I really wouldn't ramp up too quick though, your body needs to get used to it first. So just don't over do it :) And lets see, the vitex, it shouldn't be too much either, I think that it's good to start, however I never did ramp up with my vitex either, I have been taking the same amount for 6 months, and I don't think I will be ramping it up, I might.
Are you currently drinking protein shakes?? I think that would help a lot. And also massage. I looked for your program on the program page but couldn't find it. Oh and also, you said that you lost some of it, I do believe losing weight will affect the size. Thats where I always lose weight first, is in my boobs, go figure, but try not to get discouraged. Good luck!
Halome, thats great that you like them. I also am glad that you found sample packets, I forgot to mention those, but my health food store does sell them, its a great way to sample a bunch of flavors.
KittyCharlette, I got that nasty vanilla flavor by accident, instead of the chocolate, but I will try that idea, since I do not have a lot of money right now. Thanks!!
So I found my bag of bustea, the herb tea blend from Greenbush, so I am going to incorporate it in my program. I will be drinking it 3 times a day, I have a ton of it left, so it will probably last me about 3 weeks. Hopefully I will grow some more.
Oh I remembered another question I'm curious about. It may sound silly to some but I'm thinking of doing a poll about this or something to see any relation!
Anyway! When you were growing up, were you super active? Meaning, always running around, maybe did sports?
Also, are the women in your family traditionally busty, or smaller?
Oh yeah, and are you taking the soy or the whey protien? :)
I've found the whey to me tastes immensely better than the soy, even if there's only a quarter of the flavors then the soy for Spiru-tien haha.
Let's see, when I was younger, I wasn't too active, I mean I was an average normal kid growing up, playing in the street and at recess or whatever. I had P.E just like everyone did too in middle school and HS. But I did do dance classes, and Gymnastics but I wasn't doing it hardcore like some kids my age, maybe did dance twice a week, and the Gym twice a week as well and I was 11 years old. I stopped in middle school. In HS I cheerleaded my last two years. But I wasn't super super active, maybe towards the end in HS, I was in the best shape of my life then.
My mom is flat chested lol, she told me she had smaller boobs than me growing up, she has pics to prove it too but she was an A cup until she had kids, and gained weight, now she is a C, but she is overweight and wants to lose the weight she has gained. My Aunt however, has the hugest boobs I have ever seen lol. My Grandma did as well. My great greatmother didn't I don't think, she was pretty small. My lil sis is 16 and so far she has a little bit bigger than an A cup, my mom thinks she will grow bigger like my Aunt, I really don't know. As for my dad's family, I think they all had average sizes. So I think I got my mom's gene :(
As for the shakes, definatley whey. They do taste the best, the soy, not so much.
Okay so its been about a couple months since my old program, and ever since I got sick which was a few weeks ago, I took a break. I have been really lazy with everything because I am trying to get my health back. So I have not been massaging or anything, anyways here is my new program, well its more like an addition to what I have been doing:
*I added new items below, took away the vitex and kept the fenugreek, saw palmetto and wild yam
a.m-(breakfast)
soy pudding
protein shake
Hops-500 mg (2 capsules)
Gotu Kola-500 mg (1 capsule)
Alfalfa-650 mg (1 capsule)
1 cup of spearmint tea during the first 5 days of my cycle
mid afternoon-(lunch)
1 glass of barley drink
1/4 cup of soybeans
1 tablespoon soy lecithin
milk thistle-270 mg (1 capsule)
Kudzu-750 mg (2 capsules)
Fenugreek-610 mg (1 capsule)
This may sound a bit weird but did you ever use Brava / Brava Bosom / Bosom Beauty or any other suction devices? Are you aware that some Norwegian company are using your picture page as an advert for the Brava Bosom machine? Your program doesn't mention this machine - I think theyh might be using your pics as you had a good result, even though it was without their product!
Thank you for letting me know that some worthless company is using my photos as their BS testimonial. I am extremley irritated at the fact that they are using my photos without my permission AND to claim that I used something that I have never used in my life!!! I am going to make a post about this on the main forum, thank you so much!! And by the way, how did you find this website??? Maybe there are others out there using a lot of our photos...kinda scares me. Well thanks!!
Hi Kari! I was looking at all of the before and after pics, and your original pictures look the most like me right now. You've really inspired me to be evn more devoted to my NBE programme. I was just wodnering out of all the things you used which seemed to contribute the most to your growth? I noticed you took out vitex eventually was it just not working out well enough with your body? Thanks for any advice you can give.
Lets see, what seemed to contribute more to my growth?? I am trying to think, lol. Honestly, I think drinking protein shakes, and taking the three different herbs wild yam, fenugreek, and saw palmetto. I do have to say though, that vitex did work really well and I think I am going to put that back in my plan and do my last plan that worked so well. The reason why I stopped was because I heard that it regulates hormones as in, it will decrease estrogen and balance your hormones, so even if you did take a lot of estrogen but still took vitex, it wouldn't make a difference...but I do think that is a theory because looking back, I loved using vitex...I got fuller and everything seemed to be growing well. So hopefully I will incorporate it again. If you have any other questions let me know!
*~Viva la Cleavage!!~*
moayca (no login)
vitex
January 23 2008, 10:47 AM
Hello Kari,
Do you take vitex since November? 1200 mg to the day? You see nothing result yet?
I have been with vitex for three months now, and I have increased 1cm at the moment, is little result. To part, I have diminished my pains in the menstruation... :)
One question: In the six months that you took vitex, when you began to notice the more increase?
When I was taking vitex, it took about 4-5 months to see an increase in size, however I was taking wild yam, saw palmetto and fenugreek along with that, so that could have contributed to my growth. I'm not sure if taking vitex alone would increase cupsize.
Congradulations on your results. Your photos are amazing! Did you stay that way in your bust size and did you have to do a lot of maitenence? I read your whole process through 2007..how are you doing with the growth now..has it stayed?
I am going to only follow your program for the next 6 months and I have a few questions if you don't mind.
1) Did the herbs ever leave you with a hot feeling in the face? Almost like a tired flushed feeling? Or were you able to go about your day to day activites without noticing much difference in mood, tiredness or other health issues/changes?
2) I bought regular capsules of fennugreek, wild yam, sawpalmetto and vitex. If I follow just these for the next 6 months do you think I will get results? I have heard conflucting things about vitex..that maybe it cancels out the other herbs and that it might be better to do one or the other. However, I see you had success, so I am following your plan. I wanted to know what you thought. Do you think it is necessary for me to get the greenbush capsules that have a mixture and the tincture? I am usuing these herbs below but I am not sure if what I am taking is more or less than what is in the greenbush caps. I would like to try and do exactly what you did.
should I increase the does of the fen, wild y, and saw palm.? and to how much that would be similar to the greenbush blend. I see some people take a whole lot but I find that my body can only take the minimum.?
afternoon:
vitex 400mg
pm
vitex 400mg
1 epo
protien shake
multivitamin (that has vitamin E in it)
On a side note,..I am also taking Yasmine birth control..a low dose bc.
thanks so much for reading this and I hope for any info and advice.
It's been a while since I have visited the forums, so sorry about the delay in my reply.
I think I stopped around november 07 in taking all my supplements. My growth has still maintained however I think it is because of my weight. I have gained about 10 lbs since then and my breast size has stayed the same.
I am in the process of losing weight, getting back to the gym etc, so we will see where my growth goes. As for now, I am not taking anything so lets see, nov 07 to Oct 08- almost a year, yeah I guess a year taking no BE supplements and i am still happy with my size. My goal was to become a cup bigger but my health problems got in the way and also financial status/stress/moving from state to state, ah whatever...anyways...
I never got a hot feeling in my face...which is kinda strange, maybe you are flushing because of the pills. I didn't notice much of a change in mood and diet, I mean I want to say I was pretty happy for the most part but hormones effect everyone differently. But I was fine throughout the whole thing.
As for using this regimen, you probably will get results, I mean everyone is different, this is just what has worked for me, I did read a lot about vitex and how it does influence other hormones and things like that but that was AFTER I took my vitex and I don't see a problem taking it.
I think the greenbush brand is good, but I mean any health food store carries the same herbs and for a lot less, GNC has a good herb selection where I bought the last of my herbs. The tincture that greenbush has is hard to swallow, it has a bitter taste and I disliked it, I am used to drinking all sorts of gross stuff but I decided not to go with this anymore and find a better alternative.
The doses you mention are about what I would normally start out with, I wouldn't increase the doses until later on maybe 3 months down the line when you are stalling or something. Your body needs to get adjusted to those amounts and you need to be patient.
I do think you should also massage and get the circulation going, I really liked doing them and they seem to have helped...
As for your side note, I do believe that taking herbs will affect your birth control but you know, I don't have any experience in taking them at the same time...so I am not sure.
Well happy growing to you, I wish you all the luck, any more questions, i will try to check this page more often.
Hi!, New to this concept of NBE! And so happy I came across this site!
But you posted that you stopped BO because you were worried about infertility.
What is BO?
Thanks!
Your results are amazing! and I have the same starting point as you! so
this looks promising!!!
Please reply to the BO if you can thank you! I am alo concerned about this BO.
Hi Lena,
BO is an abbreviation for Bovine Ovary, which is cow ovaries. If you have had a chance to look into the glanular forum, that is where it is most talked about. It is also used in a product called bountiful breasts. I know I had said that I am afraid of infertility, but I believe someone on the main forum questioned that and there were a lot of replies that it doesn't cause infertility. I think its pretty controversial. Whethor it does or doesn't, I have stuck with the herbs and that has been the best for me as far as growth. Good Luck :)
