Ok, so here is my opinion. The full potential cream is just nice and silky on the skin, if i want nice and silk i can buy jegerns ultra silky lotion, but I dont. It doenst do much and i think it may be a waste of money. Instead try the st herb original, the nanos are unnecessarily expensive and the blossom soap i just started so cant say much about that yet.

Here is what i currently look like so far.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27012321@N02/?saved=1

been using PM gum and pills.

OH MY GOSH your boobs are huge, I would be so happy with a set like that. R U using that b2up gum or some other pm gum? Where did you get it, was it a good price?

Thanks kekie. I am using the b2up gum exactly, straight from thailand, I just chew as much but i estimate i take about 9-10 piecies daily. They recommend 3 but that did nothing for me. I bought it online, cant remember the website exactly as i bought a lot of it, but if u re really interested i will research and give u the website. The gum has better absorption rate than anything else thats why i use it.

oh it cost $35 a bottle and its 90 piecies in a bottle, i think the price is reasonable compared to the pills.

Hi Beth

Wow you look amazing, I saw your old pics before and I think you must have increased 2 cup sizes, have you measure? Do you have any growing pain? If you could give us the website would be nice, I really want to get some right now. ^_^ LOL!

First congratualtions on your success your pictures look good..

which one is the before or after? I'm always happy for us ladies when we have success.

Also how long have you been on your campaign?


I'll have to disagree with you i have been using full potential pills and cream for 3 months and i have gone up a cup size and i'm hoping to continue growing in the future.. and i will recommend it to anyone..

You most likely have not given the FP cream a fair chance. the cream was actually formaulated to have the feeling like "jegerns ultra silky lotion" not oily and greasy like the other creams with an obtrusive smell. Thats why i love it and it seems to be workign for me.

Wow, so you spend $35+ every 10 days since you chew 9-10 pieces of gum everyday..

thats $105+ every month you are spending plus you use pills as well and now possiblely soap..

So how much do you spend on your campaign a month?

Wait and why are you not using st herbs cream anymore?

Please share with us..

Thaigirl

Hi Babe, Hi Thai girl,
Babe, thank you so much for your kind words, they are encouraging for my F cup journey believe me. I don’t know why I like big boobs but I just do, SINGING( I like big boobs, and I cannot lie, lol)
There is not a before photo, I posted before photos earlier on and that is what Babe is talking about.
I started drinking soy protein shakes in September and noticed that my boobs were filling out, so I started researching NBE, I took breast success starting in December, took it for 2 months but nothing happened. I think I grew about .5 inches or so, am not sure. I started pills and in January but I wasn’t dedicated, but I started again with full blown dedication in March. I take the pills every 8 hrs, no excuse, maybe in 2 weeks I miss massage once, as I feel this is really important. So all in all at the beginning of march I measure 38.5 inches, now am 41 inches. So it is fair to say about 6 months into NBE.
I wish I could post up a before pick, is just that they will violate my account because I don’t have a bra on.
With Full potential, u may be right that I did not give it a lot of patience, I also did not like the fact that it finished too quickly, I haven’t used st herb yet, I just ordered it straight from Thailand last week so am still waiting for it to arrive.
I spend at least $300- 400 every month on this, I know its sad, the funny is that at the end of the day the money spent on NBE would be enough to get breast implants, but I guess the main difference is that they are not silicone.
This may be funny but drinking protein is very important, I eat tuna every day, and have been drinking a liter of milk for the past 1 month, lactose free milk of course.
I am still looking for the website that I buy the gum because I had to reset my computer back to the manufacturer’s setting so I lost all my favorites, but here is a site that sells the gum as well for Babe.
http://www.getbustupgum.com/bustupgum.html

I have to say it again, you such a "HOTTIE", and congrats to your NBE journey, 3" of growth within 6 months which is great, I think you are not far off to a F cup, go girl.

Your pictures are so encouraging, I hope I will see some result soon. I've been doing NBE for 2 months now, here is my program, do you have any suggestions?

* 2 x 500mg pure PM with calcium tablets (one in the morning with empty stomach, one at night just before bed)
* 2 x massage with breast spray and cream from pm.co.uk (used to massage up to 30 to 40 mins, now down to 20 mins because too damn tired)
* 2 x cups of fat free soy milk everyday (can't drink cows milk, it's gave me washing machine feeling in the stomach for whole day)
* Boobie soup 4-5 times a week

I have mucked up periods since I started PM....I used to drink 3-4 cups of soy milk a day, due to put on 2kg in short 2 weeks, therefore I cut down to 2 cups, I drink 1-2 cups of green tea after dinner every night to get rid of the oil in my stomach, only drink coffee when I'm craving for it but not much, I'm a non-smoker and absolutely alcohol free person.

I only added Calcium tablets in my routine this few days, do you think I should add some herbs in my routine? Cos I really want to see some boobies happening, hopefully I'll be growing from "Babe" to a "Hot Babe" Lol.

Before pic n after pics here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27057647@N02/?saved=1

Babe, I would reply you in detail when i get back from work, thanks girl.

Great before and after pictures. But besides the gum, what herbs have you used since you atarted NBE and what doses. Details would be great as your pictures are very motivating to continue with NBE. By the way you look gorgeous. Wish I had that set, even a C.

Wow what a big different, from a B to a D, that's unbelievable, I hope I could grow as fast as you, thanks for sharing your photos.

Hi Babe

Hi Babe,
Thanks again.
Perhaps you may want to consider taking a galactouges, I don’t know if you have tried them and reacted badly, I feel they help you with prolactin levels and I believe the breasts needs this hormone to grow as well.
Perhaps a heat pad after massaging to help with circulation, ( I wish I could massage twice , I think somehow you need to spread the Pm with 6-8 hrs so its constantly in your system, so perhaps is you split your dosage into three times, instead of two. 2% fat soymilk, may be a better idea, as you do need some fat for boobie growth. The important thing here is the kind of fat you are eating, polyunsaturated and monounsaturated are especially helpful, but not saturated fats. I cant stress how important complete proteins are, my main weapon really has been fish. I don’t really like meat becos of how long it takes your body to digest them. I also don’t know if you are a vegetarian so please let me know.
Green tea has a lot of antioxidants, but perhaps you want to cut back on it a little bit, try taking papaya enzymes for the stomach, I take it a lot for my stomach not even for NBE and it helps. Girl, please stay off the coffee, caffeine messes things up. I don’t know if there is enough calcium in calcium tablets, but you need a lot of calcium, especially with PM, I cant figure out the link between those two, but most of research has shown this.
So for now, lets see if your periods would get in tune with PM, then add some herbs, and increase the protein and calcium intake. I think these are the most important highlights.
Yes you are a Hot Babe lol, take care.

Hi Mel C,
Thank you.
I take fenugreek 3,000mg
Hops, 1800mg
Fennel 1500mg
Goats rue extract from mothers love, as directed, am not sure the exact measurement ( am not consistent with this though becos of the bad taste and the cost)
Borage oil 2,000mg
Flaxseed oil 1,000mg
IGF lozenges, 1 tablet mostly, sometimes 2
Massage daily with olive oil and fenugreek extract, then apply heat pad for about 30mins.
Protein, about 90grams a day, mostly from Tuna and Milk. I have a sensitive stomach so I have to be careful of what I eat.
I was on YAZ for three months starting march, I just switched to Yasmin, I am mentioning this because I feel this hormones may have something to do with my growth and why I don’t react badly to PM, I think the progesterone in them offsets the strength of PM. They regulate my hormonal cycle as the birth control pill eliminates the whole menstruation cycle, which usually comes with hormonal flunctuations.
I just added collagen, papaya enzymes and swiss lamb placenta, too early to say if these are working because I started them 2 weeks ago. I was inspired to get all these after reading Rosepapillion’s post regarding the Japanese girls and their success. I don’t drink, don’t smoke, don’t use caffeine, I miss star bucks frapuccinos though! I work out about 3 times a week, just mostly cardio for about 30miutes each. I think exercise is very important because it helps with overall body circulation.

Thanks you so much for posting your details and for sharing you pictures. You look so great! your growth is totally crazy, i have never seen anyone have results like yours and in so little of time frame. You have miracle boobs.

The does above are cumulate daily, I try to take them 8 hours apart.

Thanks for your advice, the PM I'm taking recommended to take one in the morning and one just before bed, and do not take more than 2 capsules daily, therefore I can not divide them 8 hours apart.

Do you think the herbs work better than PM? Should I take 2 calcium tablets with PM each time? As calcium was recommended by few different brands including the one I'm taking. Well I'm trying to finish all the PM I've got, if nothing happened, I am consider to try Fenugreek, Borage oil, Calcium, Total Omega (Omega 3,6 & 9) and SP, what do you think of this combination?

What is galactogues? What kind of food contain galactogues? I've heard of polactin, but what it is? (Sorry my English not very good, particularly my reading skills) Many girls on this forum were talking about Estrogen and progesterone, what is it? I tried to google it, but I still don't understand. Could you please briefly explain?

Sorry for being such a pain in the butt.

Its ok Babe, I understand you very well.
I think herbs work better with PM, because they help PM focus on the breast and not just on other estrogen cites in the body. Galactogues are prolactin stimulants, examples are fenugreek, fennel and goats rue. As much calcium as you can take with PM, is good, make sure the calcium contains vitamin D as well. Except you have excess androgen symptoms, I don’t think you should use saw palmetto, but if you do then your combination looks good, at least start with this and see how your body reacts then you may be able to add more herbs. Estrogen and progesterone are the hormones that your body needs to grow bobbies, prolactin also. People use wild yam or natural progesterone cream as a progesterone supplement, but this is not necessary if you are not experiencing estrogen dominance.
Let me know if this helps.

Galactogues- are herbs used to increase a nursing mothers milk. These are the ones I have to be careful of as I am 6 months post nursing. I took fenugreek all the time when nursing my twins because it would help build up my milk supply. I want to take PM pills but am not sure about them and their "other herbal ingredients." I have made it this far without stimulating lactation and I just want to make it to Nov, my 1 year post lactating mark before trying any pills. So for now all I can do is use the soap and the topicals and I eat protein and I want to add calcium and collegen. The calcium pills you take R they big huge pills? I havent bought any yet but the ones I have seen are huge.

BETH- you are well researched on the NBE stuff. I just might start directing some questions straight to you.

Thank you so much for your information, they are very helpful, but I am really confused about estrogen dominance thing, I've checked the Dr.Lee hormone test site which recommended by waxingmoon, I still found it hard to understand.

Kekie, the calcium tablets I am taking are quite big (a bit bigger than normal capsules size) and they are contain vitamin D as well. I also thinking to take collagen and gelatin supplement, do you know where I can get them? I live in Australia, there are many supplements are not available in here, and therefore I have to purchase online, could you please give me the website if you have, thanks.

Hi I have gotten alot of my supplements from this site they seem very reputable and their whole food supplements are world class.

http://www.wholefoodsupplementsonline.com/
you should be able to find what you want there

hey beth:
thanks for your infromation. I would like to know if you are taking all these herbals together along with PM? or you seperate them? and also do you take them with food or 2 hrs after? glad you have good result!

Well I would be glad to share info on where to buy supplements, but I live in Florida in the U.S. so it is easy for me to get things. I buy my geletin caps at Walmart, they also have collegen but they are expensive and I want to look around. I don't think geletin has helped me much, but I will give it 3 months as I am just finishing my first bottle.

Kekie & Gloria, Thanks for the info.

To Kekie, Fengshiu & TigerLily both successfully grew their breasts through massage and chicken feet soup, and chicken feet contains gelatin, collagen and its high in protein, therefore I guess gelatin & collagen supplements might help in NBE.

I don't take the herbs together with PM as i feel this is too much hormones at once,and your body might flush them out. I take them before food in most cases, or about an hr or two after food.

*sigh* some ladies get all the breast luck and growth ...

Seriously though, you look fabulous, Beth. Thanks for sharing your pics and routine. You just gave me a shot of inspiration.

When you do reach your goal of F cups, hope you remember to post your official program and pics on this forum.

Keep growing, girls!

Beth ... Forgot to say congrats for finding a routine that works for you.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/371678/thread/1207764036/Need+everyone%27s+help+and+input%2C+am+i+growing--

Thanks so cal girl, I think I will do a DD cup now, my mum says an F will be too big for my stature, and when I have kids they will sag badly, am just 21 you know, so I got 2.5 more inches to go, opefully it comes soon.

Congratulations Beth !! What amazing growth! They look so great on your frame!
I hope you don't mind me asking, but the B2Up gum you take - do you take the ones on the site that are expired 2007 (but have long shelf life)? I've been thinking about trying PM for a long time, didn't know where to start, but you seem to be having luck! The expiration date on the available gum they have left in that brand worries me, but if you've used it with success than I'm definitely on board! And do you recommend any other types of PM? I really don't know much about it, so any advice you have would be so appreciated :) !

Thanks for all your great advice in this and other threads. Your research is so thorough - it's really helpful!

Also, Beth, do you chew all those pieces of gum at once or do you spread them out throughout the day? Thanks !!

Hello ladies. I am new to the forum still trying to learn the lingo. What exactly is PM? thx

I have been trying the link to see pictures. Can't get in, can you have them posted on the personal picture page.

You have to copy and paste the links.

thanks finally got to see, looks amazing!!!!

Hi Sunshine,

sorry for the late response, I chew them all through the day randomly. I try to chew them far away from when I take my birth control, I chew them when am massaging, and I chew them when I take the IGF 1 lozenges, am just trying to chew them at time i think they will be most effective, but for the most part i chew them separately throughout the day.

Hi Sunshine,

No i would never take anything that is expired to my knowledge, lol, I am picky like that, almost to the point of obsessive, I wont even eat food that has been cooked 12 hours ago. I have a separate supplier that gets them from me straight from Japan.
I cant recommend any other PM as this is the only one i have used.

Take care, let me know if u have more questions, boobie love.

I just am so confused about what to try and what will waste my money. My breasts are so small I feel like my husband is embarassed by them as am I. Its a horrable feeling. I know he loves me but I know the women he has been with and he seems too distracted by women who have fuller breasts and it is embarassing to me. It does hurt my self esteem but that is really on me not him. I just want something that works without spending money I don't have if it doesn't.

I completed 6 months using St Herb PM. I think it works but I have only seen very minor growth. I think maybe 0.5 inch and I was using all the products. The pills; massage with cream during the day; massage with nano cream before bed and I even used a heat bag before and after massage; pm soap; Calcium tablets and flaxseed oil.

Quite disappointed about the small growth, but happy that I've got some results. My boobies now bounce which they never used to before. I actually feel like I have breasts now. For this amount of growth I don't think this product is good value for money though. Maybe my boobie size is affecting the amount and speed of growth as I have seen this mentioned somewhere in another post. Smaller breasts take longer and grow slower than breasts that have more fatty tissue. I was a size 30AA and now a small 30A.

Stopped using the St Herb products for about 6 months now, but still have some products left so have started again this month. Maybe the break will do me good and I might see some more growth this time. Not greedy. Just want a full A cup but preferably a B cup. Will try the same method but eat more protein foods!

If anyone has any suggestions/recommendations I would love to hear them! Thanks

hey Beth im starting your NBE and i was curi0ous how much weight will i gain ???? and how long was it before you saw results