So it looks like the new Ro-Bust/Cultivar stuff is up in Deb's shop. My question is, how do we know it is good? I mean, we have all heard the "grown for 5-10" years to properly develope the active ingredients, but how about some certificats of analysis?

I'd atleast like to know what the Miroestrol content is, as that seems to be an important factor. Even then, without a certificate can't all these companies just con us?

I'm not trying to be rude or anything, just have to be skeptical of course.

Anyhow, hopefully we can find out the content of this new stuff.

I understand about you not wanting people to con you. I bought Ainterols PM and feel that I was totally conned into it. The only way you can be sure is if someone else has tried it first and to watch for thier comments. That is why I think this forum is a good place for girls (and guys!) so that we can try to help one another not to get ripped off. I woulsd email Deb from ebay and ask her about any concerns you may have before actually purchasing the product. I have not tried that brand of PM so I cannot help you as far as whether it works or not.

Of course nobody wants to get rip-off. Deb has said that the product works for her. Said that she felt tingles and that her boobs started swelling within days. Since the harvest time was nearly 10 years, the miroestrol content is pretty high which is why the caps have low mgs compared to the other PM caps out there. Even St Herb's was 200mgs (I'm using that now, but am switching to Ro-Bust for convenience) She also says that Ro-Bust's supplier is the same cultivator that does St. Herb's, so that's good.

Anyhow, the above poster is right. Email Deb about this if you're still skeptical. I'm just going by what she had said here in the forum.

I ordered the Ro-Bust from Deb 3 days ago and I started usinG right away when it arrived yesterday - very fast shipping! Thanks Deb!Today, I experienced swelling (both breast) and soreness in my left breast- a thing that I did not experience with the St. Herb cream. It's not my ovulation period. Hopefully, these signs means growth later. It's really not scented but I don't like the natural smell (like a spoiled milk but milder - not a big deal because the smell goes away right away but I still massage with pure Vit E oil after I use it just to get rid of the smell totally). One really needs just a small size (penny size) for one breast. It looks like an 'icing' - not that watery but easily absorbed by the skin.

Active Ingredient: Premium Pueraria Mirifca

Other Ingredients: Water, Jojoba seed oil, Gycerin, Capric Crapilic Trigteceride, Glycerine Sterate, Ceteryl Alcohol and Cetereth-20, Di- propylene Glycol, Avocado Oil, Sweet Almond Oil, Mango Butter, Shea Butter, Steric Acid, Phenoxyethanol & Caprylyl Glycol & Potassium Sorbate and Hexylene Glycol.

It says PROPYLENE GLYCOL FREE.

Thanks for all the responses. We will have to try it I guess!

meehka,

That's great to hear! If you're also experiencing fast swelling like Deb--and you're only using the cream, I assume--than this stuff must be awesome.

L, I am in total agreement. :) ALL us USA gals should at least give it a try. Especially if the cream is producing such quick results. I can only imagine how things will be combining it with the caps!

Next cycle will be when I officially start the Ro-Bust. And I'm already getting excited like an idiot. ^.^

I'm joining you ladies. I'm planning to order the pills and cream and start next cycle. It'd be fantastic if this PM works since it is available in the US.

Keep us informed L, Shyboobs, and Meeka on your progress.

yap Shyboobs, I use cream only. I observed that ALMOST everyone in this forum who used PM PILLS experienced problems/changes with their monthly period (either continuous spotting or missed period for few months) so I'm scared of the pills. Besides, I also have PCOS so I'm just concentrating on topicals but I'm planning to include Goat's Rue later as i researched that it is ok for women with PCOS.

I will update you with my progress everynow and then.

Hey Meehka,

I've got PCOS too, are you on prescription for it? I'm on Yasmin to control testosterone and Metformin to hope to prevent diabetes. I took the powder for a month but then stopped (no good reason and didn't have any side effects) but intend to get back to it soon.

Hi Louise,

I got the same prescription too but my doctor did not prescribe me yasmin as metformin can control the production of testosterone already. She said it would be better but she cautioned me of possibly gaining weight so I decided not to be prescribed with it. She actually prescribed progesterone cream for me but I lost the prescription paper so i did not start yet. Im going back to her next week.I told her my NBE process which she does not believe (she said she'll believe only is she sees visible result on me later) but she said she does not see something wrong with EPO/borage as it helps with some of my acne, flax seed for my heart health, vitex (helps in regulating my cycle) and goat's rue (she did not okay this as im not lactating she said) but again, she said, it won't worsen my PCOS so it's up to me. Today, Im gonna start with flax seed then (I got the ground one). I'm still waiting my order for goat's rue.

By the way, I started to experience tinglings and both (not just the left breast) breasts are sore and swelling now. Im really hoping that this means growth the soonest.

meehka

Hi Meehka,

I have high testosterone as well. I just wanted to mention I read somewhere and for the life of me I can't remember where that flax seed raises testosterone. I'll look for the site and post if I can find it. You may want to take that into consideration as I know we don't want to take anything that may make it higher.

Hi WantMore<

It's the opposite. Flaxseeds reduce testosterone level. Here is one link that says it. http://www.dukehealth.org/HealthLibrary/News/2145

Question & Answer Answered On Ebay

Q: Hello Deb. I am mailing to ask this for my wife because she does not have an Ebay account. She wanted me to ask if you knew what the "Mirifem" content was in the Ro-Bust pills and cream. Apparently, that is important. Thanks in advance. Jan-12-09


A: Hi, I wanted to answer the question again because it is an important question and other might have the same misunderstanding . This way I can post the answer on the site and others can read the answer.

Answer....The cream has No "mirifem" in it. Mirifem is the name of a completely different product. Mirifem and other breast enhancement products sometimes have varying amounts and grades of PM or Pueraria Mirifica in them . That is what your wife wants to know about. The amount of Pueraria Mirifica or PM in a product is not as important as the amount of "actives" or active ingredients in the PM and this is controled by the species , the growing conditions (cultivation or farming techinques) , the harvesting time or cycle etc. All these things inclucing climate, soil and location have a GREAT DEAL to do with the amount of the actives that the PM will have in it. So it is very hard to tell how much of a specific active, in this case (miroestrol and deoxymiroestol ) are in the PM that is used in our prouct.

Tests we have available to us now are at best rough measures and are very costly. We used the very best of the selected species available, cultured or farmed it to be high in actives, then harvested it under carefully studied methods. These techniques have been studies for almost 10 years. This insured the highest amount of actives available in a cream today.

We used the kind of PM usually reserved for consumption, rather than the diluted form used for topicals that is mixed with propylene glycol, for the Ro-Bust product. This gives us an advantage. The exact number of active ingredients is proprietary or company secret. Comparing this cream with others is like trying to compare oranges with apples. It is impossible. I hope that helps explains things to your wife and clears up the Mirifem business.. Hoodiatrust

Thanks Deb. I should be placing an order for it later tonight. I could only assume the asker meant "miroestrol" content. Must have gotten confused.

Reading the posts here has made me decide to give ro-bust and the premium pm pills a try. I won't be starting until March though since I'm going along with wahaika's theory. Until then I'm gonna do a good detox to get things primed.

Hey girls!

Just thought I let everyone know how things were going. I had received my Ro-Bust (+ caps) this past Sat. I started using the cream that night and must say that I was feeling tingles/aches later on that same night! Meehka was right. St Herb's cream was not as strong as this stuff. Boobs also started swelling the 2nd day of using it and are continuing to do so. I used the caps Mon since I was *supposed* to come on that day, but never did... *Sigh* Looks like I'll be having a late period this cycle. I really thought I would avoid that. But since I've already been using PM, and I had my 15 day break, I fig might as well keep going with the caps.

Speaking of which, I think the caps are great. Had more signs of growth after using 'em. Anyhow, I can vouch for Siriporn's products. They are def effective. Good luck, all.

^^That is great news! I have been stalking this thread with hopes of someone updating soon. I am really getting excited for all of us trying this brand. I got my pm from Deb last week and on an impatient whim tried the pm cream and it does give tingles on the first application. I haven't used it since as I'm *trying* to be a good girl and wait but March is taking for-EVER to get here, lol

Keep stalking the thread! I ordered a couple bottles of cream and caps, and am waiting for my period to come any day now (a little behind). I will be sure to keep everyone updated.

I'm having good result with the Ro-bust. I kept most of the swelling that I had but I don't know if it is because of it only since I had goat's rue liquid once a day (1 ml only bec. I had terrible headache when I had 1.5ml twice a day. it's not bitter but it tastes horrible so have been mixing it with water and it smells strong but does not produce any unusual smell in my body unlike fenugreek. I've been having more urine flow since i have been with it and bloated feeling lessened so even i'm not sure if it is doing something to my breast, i will continue taking it )and ground flax seed simultaneously with it (I mixed it with my cereal in the morning and milk/soy milk before I go to bed). I'm sure that ro-bust is stronger than St, Herb cream though. I dont know if this is the best program for me (massage with Ro-bust cream, started noogleberry few days ago - 15 to 30 minutes in the night only after massaging, goat's rue, ground flax seed, EPO/borage oil) but so far I like the result that they are giving me. GB gave me good result too but I gained weight with it. It increased my appetite/craving for food. I stopped it in Dec. and now, I lost the weight that I gained (maybe bec. of the goat's rue that I had been taking). I am scared of the PM caps but I thought how will I know the effect on me if I am not going to give it a try. Maybe I will just buy one bottle and take 2 caps a day and see what happens in a month or two. I will update you ladies and please do the same. good luck to all of us!

Good idea, meehka. Don't blame you for being cautious with the caps. I had been taking 800mgs, following St Herb's directions before I switched and at 1st I didn't have any probs with my period. My cycle used to be short and it was lengthened to 30 days during my 1st month on their caps. But this month, my period is definitely late. :( I really think the high dose on St Herb was what caused it, even tho I use PC. Deb had mentioned on her site that high doses USUALLY cause period probs. So I think next cycle will be more normal since I'm only taking 200mgs now.

Let us know how it goes with the caps.

The miroestrol content is now on the listing. It took me a while to get everything together for the ad. IT is "no less" than 42 mg per 100mg of dry poweder. This I think is comparable to St Herb. But remeber St herb uses a liquid extract diluted with propelene glycol for there creams ...we do not. WE use 100% Pure Powder...not the 80%/20% mixed with other tropical herbs like most other companies including st herb. This is true for the pills as well. So this is why you don't need so many pills. You just get problem periods with excess PM and the breast growth is not going to be any more. The scientist that develops this is a staunch believer that women do not need so high a dose if the quality is high. I am glad the general response is favorable so far. I love the product but I may be biased. Thanks for trying it and giving it a fair shake. Take care all.
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How long have you been using this Robust?

Have been on Ro-bust for a month. last week I experienced tingles and pain as soon as the cream is absorbed unlike before wherein i experienced them an hour later. Swelling and soreness continued.Growth (I hope not just swelling) is already noticeable in the mirror but its more on side and bottom. Im gonna order the PM Premium caps just to try.

Again, I'm not sure if I got the result from Ro-bust alone as I have been with goats rue(1 ml in the night), ground flax seeds(2 tbs twice a day), and EPO/borage oil(twice a day). I just like the progress that I have been experiencing and seeing that I do not like to take away something.i am willing to add something though that's why I started nooglebery but have not been consistent with it especially when I had that mark and I wanted to wear a V-neckline blouse.

And yes, I only had one cystic acne last month, yehey!

Shyboobs, keep us updated too.

The thing that I like with my recent program is I lost the weight that I gained when I was in GB for almost 4 months. My appetite was unbelieavble during those months although I can say that my breasts became rounder and fuller. Last xmas, I remember some of my friends asking whether I was pregnant lol. When I stopped GB, my food cravings stopped too.

Happy Valentine's Day, boobie hugs and kisses to everyone! <3

I'm hoping that Ro-bust won't throw me even more off balance with my hormones because it's suppose to work locally. I'm not comfortable with taking PM caps just yet, and I'm not sure that I will anymore because I had bad reactions to some of the more mild herbs as it is. (Blah, live and learn.)

I hope that my fellow Ro-bust users are finding that it works well! I'm very excited to see how it works out! =D

Good Boobie luck to all!

~Antheia

Hello,

I know this may seem quick for an update, but I have been using Ro-bust for about 3 days now, and I think it has caused a little bit of swelling, but this biggest thing that I notice is how painful my nipples are...are we supposed to avoid this area? They are really sore, more than they usually are in my luteal phase. I'm taking that as a good sign though, must mean that the lotion is doing something, right? =)

That's all, sorry that there isn't more, but I'll keep you all updated!

~Antheia

Hey girlie,

Yeah it has been generally recommended to avoid putting the cream (for most brands) directly on nips. So I just don't bother doing it anyways with the Ro-Bust. Some people don't care though. Anyhow I'm glad to hear that the lotion is working well for you too! ^_^ You might wanna prepare yourself for a small amount of deflation after AF comes, but most of the fullness should hang around.

Cheers

Ha, ha, thanks ShyBoobs! Good to know, I think I'll avoid the nips from here on out. =P

Happy boobie growing to all!

~Antheia

Yo!

Just thought I let everyone know that I have achieved the 1 inch mark at last! W00t! ^.^ I'm so glad to have made it lol. Even if it's not much. Hope everyone else is doing well.

Hey girlie!

I saw your update on your program page, so I posted a message there for you, but I wanted to extend an extra little congrats here....CONGRATS!

Take care,

~Antheia

I just got the lotion and the pills!
Are we supposed to wait for our period to start the lotion? Are you girls applying the lotion day 1-15 or everyday?

Lotion - not necessarily. I started the lotion the day when I received it. I did not have a break. The pills, yes, start it on the first day of your monthly period.

alright, so... i abandoned PM for a while because i bought the B2up gum then ainterol... and nothing.
and no one seemed to be growing with bellas PM
but i came back to the PM forum and it looks like some of you guys were starting to have real success with the ro-bust... so i bought the cream.
i'm keeping my fingers crossed :cp
i calculated today... i've spent around $450 so far on breast enhancement, in sixth months. which is a lot, but not really... not in terms of breast augmentation. and i've grown almost a full cup. i check all the time to make sure it's still there. :cp

think it would be best to do cream AND pills?? or can success be gained by cream alone? mind you i'm on fenugreek and hops right now, and i'm about to add wild yam.

6 months and a full cup size? That's not so bad. At least you did manage that! :) I dunno your situation, but if you're not estrogen deficient, then I don't recommend taking PM. I'm 1 of the oddball cases with low estrogen and lower prog...and I'm not even in my 30's yet. I must say that I have grown faster using Ro-Bust caps than I did with St Herb...so based on what I experienced, perhaps using caps would yield better results. But you say that you're using FG, hops and WY? It was recommended to stop other estrogenic herbs when taking PM internally. Ro-Bust itself is a very good cream, I remember getting fuller boobs quickly just using that.

It's really up to you to make the decision. Hope I gave you enough feedback.

Hey shyboobs I've read about your growth with robust and I'm feeling really motivated to try it! But I do have to ask you how long does a can of the lotion last? At the moment spending 30 bucks for a little can of lotion that's only gona last a short amount of time would be a lil silly on my part =( times are tuff...but I'm going to florida in april and since ainterol didn't work for me I'm hoping to get at least a little something from robust...I'm already self concious enough as it is I don't really wana take a blow to my self esteem by being surrounded by a bunch of florida hotties..I want my hubbies eyes one me not them..lol

thanks for the feedback :c) i thought it was helpful.
i've decided to give the cream a go. my growth has been stunted so i'm going to introduce something new and see if that helps. i'm going to stay away from the caps -- at least for now.

Hi girls,

d4b--The bottle of lotion should last you at least 30+ days. I've been using it since Jan 24 and I still have some left, it's starting to get low though. ..Lol, hey trust me I know how it feels to be surrounded by busty females. Ugh. You just feel SO inadequate and jealous. Doesn't help that all the females in my family (including the teens) are bigger than me. :S As for being ready for April in time...I can't say for sure. You should def have fuller boobs though. At the very least be glad you're not smaller than an 'A' cup like me. XD

tattoo--i'm hoping things will improve for you. This is a good cream!


Keep us updated, both! ^_^

Desperate4boobies,

It depends on how often one uses it. A can of robust lasted for one and a half months for me. I did not only use penny size for each breast especially when I had time to massage longer. If I only used just a penny size, it might have lasted for more than two months. I'm on my second can already and this time with the pills which I believe caused my facial complexion to lighten.

meehka

Thnx shyboobs and meekha for ur info!!!! And shyboobs I completely understand..I'm tiny in pretty much every way compared to everyone in my family (4'11 and only 100 lbs)..and I'm the oldest sister but still look like I'm 12 wen I'm almost 22..Idk who I got stuck wit the small boobies wen my moms r huge! Lol I'm barely a 32 A..I constantly wear my victorias secret bra wit the padding and extra gel pads just to make myself look a little proportionate..having a small chest hasn't ever stopped guys from hittin on me but I'd still feel better about myself if I wur a little bigger...I really think ima give robust a try..

Just thought I should be the experiment of the group when it comes to period probs and PM doses.

OK...as you may (or may not) know I was using St Herb, following their directions by taking 800 mgs for 15 days. My period was 7 days late the last time I used 'em, not to mention it was pretty painful during the 1st night. But now after using 200 mgs per day of Premium Cultivar caps, I'm relieved to say that AF is in the building today. I had came on last cycle on Feb 2nd. Yay! Sooo looks like high doses CAN negatively impact your cycle. Granted I'm sure it doesn't happen with every girl, but the majority of us that did have probs, I can testify that LOW doses should NOT cause long delays with your period. Anybody else that is using the caps, please stick with low doses, no more than 400 mgs I say. Is there anyone else that had this improvement after having messed up cycles?

I've been using ro-bust for four days now. I didn't get any instant sensations like others say but I did get a terrible headache yesterday and it wouldn't go away.

Hi Tiffany,

Remember that PM is a strong phytoestrogen. If the only thing you've been doing differently these past 4 days is taking Ro-Bust (i.e. no changes in diet, caffeine consumption, sleep patterns, stress levels, etc.), then you're most likely experiencing one of the side effects of PM; it's causing fluctuations in your estrogen levels, thus causing your headache that won't go away.

Without knowing what type of headache you're experiencing (e.g. tension, migraine, cluster) and more details about your symptoms, I'm just making an educated guess, of course.

However, do consider decreasing or quitting your PM to see if that alleviates your headache. Also drink lots and lots of water. Dehydration is another culprit.

Here are some old posts on PM & headaches:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/484965/thread/1191726306/headache
http://www.network54.com/Forum/484965/thread/1171245827/Headaches-

Here are a few evidence-based research articles on estrogen & headaches:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/lw0362156r448u74/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14731385?ordinalpos=7&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum


Let us know if your headache goes away. Hope you feel better!

Thanks for those links, SoCal.grl, that was really helpful! Good things to keep in mind, it seems like everyone is still trying to figure out this whole PM animal.

Happy journey to you!

~Antheia

Thanks for the info! It finally went away. It was a horrible migraine. I usually get temple migraines the week I'm off my patch but this headache was all over. I used the cream today and yesterday with no headaches and only apply it once per day even though it says two. I'm going to check out those links you posted.

i actually have had headaches the last two days. i'm on day four of my treatment now.
BUT. i also just switched birth control... i was on ortho-tri cyclen lo, now i'm on generic ortho-try cyclen regular...
which would be the unfortunate reason for me not trying the pills out :c(
and i haven't felt much sensation down there, but i think they've perked up a little, to be honest. my chest is very sensative to hormonal changes. they shrink and grow all the time, even before I started NBE. i'm just trying to get them to a point where they won't shrink below a full C.
and the lotion reminds me of the way a crayon smells. haha.
but anywho, so far so good... sorry i'm updating on day four :cp
but i didn't wake up with a headache, thank goodness.. :c)

Tiffany, thanks for clarifying that you get menstrual-related headaches and are using topical Ro-Bust. Both pieces of info puts your persisting headache into better context. Internal PM is known to cause headaches, but this is the first time I'm hearing PM cream/lotion doing this. The combo of hormonal contraception + topical Ro-Bust is potent for you and tatoolady1. This makes me even more curious about how much PM content is in Ro-Bust, but Deb mentioned that she can't reveal the %/formula.

Glad to hear that your headache finally went away :)

Actually if you just go to her site and read the info for either the Cultivar pills or Ro-Bust cream, there should be a statement there about how much miroestrol content is in each 100mg--or cap of their PM. :P

OK, I guess I didn't exactly answer the question. I didn't really think on what you were saying SoCal. I'm so used to everyone asking about miroestrol content instead of actual PM itself in the lotion. In that case, I'm kinda curious myself. Wonder why she can't...is the company worried about others trying to duplicate their formula or what?

Anyhow, I should start signing in on this forum so I don't have to keep posting to correct mistakes. Lol

So I have another bad headache right now. I took some medicine and it didn't work. The robust so far isn't working for me but it hasn't even been a month yet so I have to give it time. I definately think the robust is causing my headache. It is potent. I'm going to start tracking these headaches.

small update.
i know it's only been a week with the cream but my breasts are VERY full. this has me half thrilled and half concerned. i'm worried that maybe robust is a stimulant and maybe it'll go away when i stop taking it? at this rate... i plan on doing at least 6 months... my fear is that after all that time my boobs will shrink right back down. we'll see.
right now, i'm very happy. i ballooned from a small C to a full C in .. what has it been, a week? and i always flucuate, but never like this.
but just to inform i'm also on fenugreek, hops, wild yam, and i take half of an IGF lozenge every day (for the past two weeks)

those who got tingles on first application or a noticeable fullness in one week. did you guys put on the recommended amount (dime sized) or did you put on more?

i definately just did the dime sized amount. i'm stingy.

I put more especially when I had time to massage longer. Good Luck!

Meehka

wow!! comments for debora 's products are pretty good!! I want to try out too..recently been searching breast enhancement product again..(I had given up few years back) I have not visit this site for few years since....n today come back here for update and see what u all say about ainterol which I came across when search google for breast enhancement. Was shock after reading bad comments about ainterol products. I nearly bought their product just now!!!! Thank you so much for sharing!!! Safe my $ for real good one.


I saw kate pic...wow!! I want tat size ! I'm really skinny ..169cm, 41kg , chest 30aa/aaa only..I'm chinese. do u think it will still work for debora's premiere product?? I don't have eating disorder, just naturally skinny.

sorry as my english not very good. Bear with me, thanks!


Shyboob, mind sharing what is ur size before and after taking pm? and for how many mths to see result?

will taking pm makes the nipple grow big?.. I have very small chest but big nipple( I think because last time I apply some nbe cream.Instead of breast grow, my nipple grow)I don't like my nipple to grow anymore..I also have unequal size breast..:(

Hi Cherasia,

My boobs were 30.75 inches in late Nov 08' and are now almost 32.5 inches. I been on PM for 3 1/2 months. My breasts are still an AA cup, according to bra calculator. It took me about 3 weeks I think to grow a quarter of an inch, but at that time I was still using St Herb. I do notice faster results since using Ro-Bust and the Premium Cultivar caps though.

I know English is not your native language, so I hope I did not confuse you! :) Good luck.

Thank u S.B!! wow!! happy and excited for u!!! Its fast grow :D..

how old are u? I heard young gals have faster effect ..I'am already going 28 :( and I worry age n my weight will affect the effectiveness of growth.

i msg deborah since yesterday..still waiting for her reply to guide n advice me abt the product!!.. :)

Amazing result you have got!! how does the cream smell ?

Hon, you are NOT old! Haha, you're not even 30 yet. So your age should not hamper your growth. Usually it's women over 35 that have slower growth rate. What might slow you down is your weight. You should drink protein shakes and include a lot of protein in your diet. Try to gain a little weight.

As for the cream, it has a smell like...crayons, like someone had mentioned before. I forgot who said it. Can't describe it exactly.

I'm still massaging once per day with robust and nothing yet :(

Does anyone know why they make a point to say "Propylene Glycol Free" when it still contains Di-Propylene Glycol, Caprylyl Glycol & Hexylene Glycol? Just curious.

Any updates?

I just added Ro-bust to my routine (with Brava and herbs). So far no tingles or anything like what people have said here, but will keep you posted.
Not crazy about the smell...you do get a lot for your money though.

i honestly feel like i've been seeing results. within the first few weeks my breasts ballooned in fullness and roundness but not so much growth..... although the fullness and roundness look like growth. but i'm not even done with the first month yet.... i plan on continuing debs advised program to see where it goes. hopefully to a D cup :c) i'm a C right now.

even if i just kept the fullness and roundness i'd be happy. i have large nipples and non-perky breasts.... the fullness makes the nipples not seem quite so large and the perkiness.... well you know. i've felt very confident in the last month that i've been taking this cream..... and i've noticed more results than in my months of taking herbs.

Thanks shyboob:) Debora haven't reply my email til now..does her site still working? still selling? no respond from her at all..

Is the crayon smell very strong?? I don't want people around me notice the smell and question me ......thats embarassing

Cherasia (love your name by the way)

Deb's shop is still up and running. I just ordered another combo package from her yesterday. She can be busy sometimes, so that may be why she hasn't replied. I think she has a Skype account, so maybe you should try to contact her with that instead.

And no, the crayon smell doesn't last long and it's not that strong. Thank God lol.

tattoolady,

Great to hear! I'm betting you'll get those 'D' cups within a month or so! I wish I started out at your size, then I wouldn't have to wait so darn long to get to my goal lol.

Hello!

I have been using Ro-bust (twice daily) only on my right breast for a few weeks now, and over the past few days I noticed that my right breast feels firmer and is rounder and perkier than my left breast. My left breast still has a bit more mass, but it is not anywhere near as noticeable as it was a month ago.

I also massage my right breasts for 50 more rotations each time than I do my left. (I do 360 rotations each time, plus 50 more on the right after that.)

So I do believe that Ro-bust is doing something! Hooray!!!

Take care,

Antheia

yeah ...I will get the cream then.. thank u shyboob:) by the way do u know how long it last for a bottle if apply twice daily?

I'm still can't make a decision to get pills or not..afraid it will make my stomach cramp, headache, irregular period....

Does anyone not only experience breast growth but also having great skin, strong healthy nails and hair??

Does anyone try compare which method have great result?

1)pills alone - is the result the same as using cream alone?
2)cream alone - is the result the same as taking pill alone?
3)pills and cream together - even better result than pill or cream alone? /or just the same as taking pill alone or cream alone?
(hope i didn't confuse u guys)

Shy boob, do u take pill and cream together when u start out this pm? how are you doing now?? how much faster after changing to robust and premium ? and what is the increasement now? do u face any side effect on pills?

Glad to hear quite a few girls here are having success!

Tiffany & those who haven't got any growth or growing signs with PM yet, did you notice any other sort of changes whatsoever? Aside from headacke? What sort of hormonal (im)balance do you think you might have? What's you age? Tried other weaker estrgenic herbs before, dose, signs? I'm trying to do a lil analysis of PM when it works, when it doesn't, why etc.

i log in to skype but deborah is not online :( or is it she never add me so i can't see her online????I did add her n msg her on the chat but no reply...

Cherasia, it's normally better to use pills and cream together. You're getting both internal and external so results tend to be better. But if you are afraid of using pills, then just stick with the cream.

Well I got bad news. This fast that I've been on with no meats or sweets (it's a church thing) has robbed me of some growth! :( I'm not quite 32 inches now. D@mmit! I'll be soo glad when this crap is over with on the 5th. Hopefully they'll quickly return to the size they were once the fast is done. Gawd. But good news is I got my package today. That was fast shipping, as always from Deb. I don't know what else to tell you about Deb though. She usually returns emails.

shyboobs, which email did u sent to? did u email through the ebay or ales@nutrimu.com or sales@nutrimu.com ?

I had tried email through ebay n ales@nutrimu.com.

Deb has lupus, so she may be feeling under the weather at the moment and hasn't been able to return emails at quickly as she usually does. Hang in there. She has really good customer service and will respond. Deb cares about her customers.

thank u SoCal.grl for letting me know :) does anyone know how long can a bottle of robust spray last if use twice daily? so that I can decide how many bottle to get.

I contact her with this email: deborah.patrie@cox.net and she usually replies quickly. And yeah, she does have lupus but her customer service is pretty good. It could be that she doesn't check the sales@nutrim (or whatever) email as often as the one I used.

The bottle of Ro-Bust should last you about 1.5-2 months...but it depends on how much you use too.

thank u so much shyboobs..I will take note of the email address. By the way yesterday I tried email her using sales@nutrimu.com, she replied me :)

Thanks.

Poor Deb :-( How long has she had Lupus? Do the docs know what might have caused it?

Hi tattoolady - I have been trying to follow along with your progress with Ro-bust and am wanting to know if you could give an update. Your last post (a couple weeks ago) you seemed to think you were fuller and rounder... and new changes? growth? I'm new to NBE and am deciding what I want to use ... would love to see an update from ya.
Thanks!

when my period came along some of the fullness went with it.... but just a few days after the fullness returned. it happens eeeevery month. within the last few days ive felt pains in my breasts at times, which i think is good. i ordered two more creams. the one i've been using has definately lasted me over a month, and it's still going... i started applying three times a day when i take my pills, which is also when i started noticing the pains.
i have no growth to report right now, unfortunately, but i'm loving the fullness/roundness i'm having. hopefully growth will come.

I tried NBE in the past but had to discontinue when I discovered I was pregnant. This time around I decided to try PM. Just don't know which one to purchase! The mgs per capsule of Ro-Bust are so much lower than most PM. The dosage of most of the PM I've come across is 1000-1500 mg per day. I guess if it's high quality and potent the lower dosage should suffice? Also, how have you gals on here come to trust Deb from Ebay and her products? Did she herself take the product and did it work for her? I was more inclined to try Bella's but Robust seems a bit cheaper and i want to spend as little as possible on this whole NBE thing.
One more thing.. she advises take her PM on days 1-14 of your cycle; Bella says days 7-21. Does it really matter which route you choose? I'm thinking one of the senior members of this forum also advised days 7-21, but I can' remember where I read that.
I guess the only way for me to tell if it's going to work is to purchase one and try it. I'm just hoping and praying it works the first time around...

well... i feel like the general consensus on Bellas is that it wasn't working for (most) girls. most people that posted didn't seem to have encouraging things to say about it. plus, it's really pricey. i'm pretty sure deb said she was taking her own.... don't know if she still is or not, i'd actually like to know myself.
deb, you out there? :cp
so far i like her product the most. i've seen quicker, nicer results with it... but as of right now i can't speak of the permanance of it; i'm only on month two, and i'm only using the cream. if i wasn't on birth control i'd definately be combo-ing with the pills. but anyway, i vote ro-bust.

Hi girls...I'm stoked about finding this community!!!

I've been trying NBE for years (on my own, not systematically with this newly-found site)...a few years ago when I gained weight I went up to a 34C (92cm/36 inches...damn I wish I kept that), but now I lost 15 pounds and came back down to 32B... now I'm doing whatever I can to get it to 32C~D. I still want to lose 3 more pounds, so now I'm aiming to just keep as much of my existing boobs as I can, and afterwards I'll focus fully on NBE!!

I was soooooo close to buying Ainterol & Breast Actives today......---THANK GOD--- I found this place!!! I'm gonna plow through the threads for all the accumulated wisdom.
I'm trying to find a good cream for breast massaging & a good pill to take. I've spent a lot of money already....I really hope it works. Deb's product seems very good...i hope she gets better soon.
Are there other PM creams you guys also recommend looking into?

So much gratitude,
Sandra

My vote is for Bella's. You get a six month supply for 100 bucks and it is also 900mgs daily for 14 days. I have just started back on and know I will add to the growth I had from it the last time I used it. it is easy for me to get and had far greater effects for me than full potencial. The reason I went off of it was to loose weight gain and was also trying to quit smoking. Now I can focus fully on breast growth. i was happy with Bella's product and I have been at this NBE a very long time.

Dear Ladies



Many people have asked about the miroestrol levels. In high quality pueraria mirifica the real question is how much deoxymiroestrol and how much miroestrol. There is not as much deoxymirestrol but it indeed has more activity than miroestrol. Either of these compounds can be commercially measured currently.

There is one American company reporting standardizing the miroestrol and pueraria mirifica with a method that is no better than a guess. They call their product "pueresterol." Welcome to the supplement industry. There product is probably ok but don't believe any nonsense about a standardized miroestrol. Thai scientists scoff at it using this particular method. No one can call their bluff yet and the federal trade commission does not have any ammunition to come down on it. The company is large enough for product manufacturers to want to buy pueresterol and make products out of it. They have a number on a piece of paper that has no value or no meaning and has never been validated. The companies that make products out of this stuff turn their heads the other way and don't wan't to know.

We have a better educated guess on how much miroestrol and deoymiroestrol is in the farmed cultivar but until those inclinations have been validated no one will comment. The efficay of the product is the best answer for now!



best

Dear Snowflake


Did you read Bella's ingredients? They do have Pueraria Mirifica in their formula but they not only have a laundry list of junk, this stuff interfers with the pueraria mirifica. By putting all this other junk in their formula do you think they even care about the quality of the pueraria mirifica?

My girl friend was using a product and was tauting an increase in breast size. She gained 15 pounds. This was not caused by the breast care product but it did account for the increase in her breast size. She eventually lost weight and her breasts got smaller. You know if you stop using these products even if they do work you must do maintenance with these products or you go right back where you started. You might want to read this article by Dr. Berman.....she might save you some time and money.

The creams work better than pills, that is if it is quality!


http://fugh-berman.com/files/Bust.pdf


Cindy

How are you ladies doing with Ro-bust?
(I'm on my 3rd or 4th day.) :-)

Has anyone who has taken Ro-Bust like it is stated on the bottle (15 days on, 15 days) had any problems with their period? Being late, extra heavy?

I know someone mentioned taking it for 12 days on, 12days off messing up her cycle, but what about taking it like recommended?

Dear Christy



I have been using pueraria mirifica 5 years. I have used wild varieties and premium. Heavy periods are normal with plant estrogens at least potent ones. If your cycle changes the first month do not worry it will level out next month or the following month.


terri

Terri,

What kinds of changes have you experienced in that 5 years? What was your size before and what is your size now 5 years later?

What kind of PM has had the most effect on you? Sorry for all the questions!

Thanks

I use pueraria mirifica capsules for anti-aging. I seem to have more energy, my hair has more of a sheen, my period lasts about 4 or 5 days, heavier and my complexion is nicer. My friends comment on me looking younger than my age. I like that!

I use breast cream. I prefer the higher quality farmed material. I have not had any luck with wild hence my preference. I do not take large amounts of capsules for breast enhancement....the creams work better with less side effects. I went up about two cup sizes. My breasts are fuller and do not doop anymore. I hate that. This did not happen over night. It took me about 6 months. I used the cream once a day at that point. Several years later I wanted to loose several pounds I went back to two times/ day and about 5 or 6 months latter to my surprize I went up again. My goal was not to loose size when loosing weight.

I had a lot of stomach cramping during my period before taking the capsules. I feel much better now. The farmed stuff is definelty stronger.


t

Terri,

Thanks for sharing!

What brand of PM are you using? How many mg do you take daily?

What kind of cream did you use?

It took you 6 months to go up 2 cup sizes?

Again, thanks.

Hi terri,
I'm also curious :-), did you use ro-bust?

Best regards~

If you read my response carefully, you will see i went up 1 cup size in 6 months.....

I lived overseas and used a few brands including St Herb (good). I found several that were equally good that

used the farmed material.

I use 200 mg/ day 15 days each month beginning the first day of my cycle. The first 2 weeks i use natural

progesterone 3 or 4 days a week(in the evening) about 20 mg. I buy Now brand. I also use about 10 mg of

micronized trimetica micronized dhea(morniing) 5 or 6 days a week. About 5 months ago I switched over to

Siriporn products because of the convenience of buying in the US and the price.

I'm ok with their products.

Thanks terri for the reply.

I have heard good things about St. Herb, but they are very expensive as well as the cream they sell.

Did you use PM creams as well? Was it St. Herb?

I am sorry I didnt understand that you went up one cup size in 6 months.

What size were to begin with and what size are you now?

What other brands of PM did you use with success?

How long did it take you to start seeing results?

Thanks ;)

Long ago I started this thread. Now, three months of Ro-Bust later, I am back to report.

Well, there is nothing to report. Zero change whatsoever.

Followed dosing instructions, took 200mg twice daily, morning and night. I finally started upping to dosage to 300mg twice daily. I also used the lotion morning and night.

Nothing.

After three months I'd expect a change of some kind, so I think I'm going to try out the UK brand.

Oooh! Sorry to hear, L! :( I hope the UK PM works out for you then.

Most woman respond to high quality pueraria mirifica, not all woman. If you did not respond it simply means you are not going to respond to anything,

How old are you? If you are flat as a board you must give it at least 6 months! Do you think you deserve a miricle?


I think your a spammer!

I dont think L is spammer, I just think she has not had any luck with the PM pills.

Like you said Cindy, PM will not work for everyone. But perhaps one brand may work for some one while it does not work for someone else. Just like herbs may work for some but not for others. The same goes for BO.

I was wanting to try the robust cream because everyone had given it really great reviews, but I am not sure if I will go back down if I stop using the cream.

My mistake. I thought she was going back to the UK brand....not moving on to try it. I sincerely apologize!

There is no harm in trying it but unfortunately I think you fall in the 10 per cent that just don't respond!

The UK brand I am not familar with...but I doubt your results will be different.

L I do not not know how old you are but if you are 40 plus you might add some natural progesterone.

Of course you must learn how to use it. If that does not help PM is not your answer, birth control pills may

not even help.


Best Of Luck

I'm 24. Chest size is around a B, or a C in certain bras. Was tring to get that true fullness of a C.

I took St. Herb for 3 months and definately experienced some fullness while I was on it. It all went away after I stopped usage, and unfortunately finances kept me from continuing at that point.

I'm yet to decide if I want to keep going with Ro-Bust and just increase the dosage, or move to the UK brand. Katie's success has had us all intrigued.

What bothers me aboust Ro-Bust is that it has no certificat of analysis. It's sort of a must to determine quality. They say "premium grade", but honestly it could just be snake oil in a bottle.

I'm not saying it is, we just simply don't know. Plus, it's more than just active ingredients we need to look for, but low toxicity levels.

Well, we will see.

The good thing is that I didn't get too many head aches while I was on Ro-Bust.

PM has no toxicity! No one has a C O A that's because the industry can't do one. It's hard to do.

What do you think makes better sense. The farmed PM that was studied and developed by a leading biologist over

10 years or villagers wondering around in the woods or jungle picking wild PM. You know they do this in very

remote regions. If its not dried within 3 days the actives are ruined.

I have a biology degree, don't you think the biologists have procedures to test this stuff on animals or do you

think they just make it up as they go along.

I have read if you are very small Pm takes a long time to work minumum 6 months and you have to keep using it.


It simply may not work not for you. Wow only 24! You are young but using these creams are a

lifestyle. If you stop you go back where you started. IF you want to do this I would give it 6 months to a

year or you sincerely may never know. I know that's hard but 3 months is not enough time for you personally.

The key words is "you personally"

St. Herb as well as the UK brand have provided me with Certificate's of Analysis from their PM suppliers.

There are traces of metal in PM, including led and sometimes Mercury. They measure them by PPM, or parts per million. There are safe levels for consumtion, and unsafe levels.

I'm glad Ro-Bust was developed by Biologists, but people have had great success using other brands. Obviously, they can be very effective. What works for one person may not work for another, and vice versa.

I first started with Full Potential on a five month stint. Then came St. Herb for three months. Both gave me fullness, St. Herb a bit more. I was more regularly wearing a C cup while on St. Herb.

Ro-Bust has unfortuantely had no effect thus far.

So, I'll have to debate whether or not to continue with it.

I doubt Ro-Bust was developed by biologists. The PM was deveoped by biologists. HOW LONG WERE YOU AWAW FROM

THESE PRODUCTS You make it sound like you used them for 8 months then stopped. Well how long? You may be

starting all over.

What does there C O A have to do with anything. They can't measure the actives. They did a heavy metal screen.

Big deal! That's of course has no value. It has nothing to do with breast enhancment. L your

logic system confuses me. When you buy some type of goop off the self in a store do you ask them where is the


heavy metal screen and why don't you supply it? Coming out of Thailand maybe they are sensitive about some of

the junk they put in their products. It sounds like you used PM PRODUCTS continuously for 8 months

but stopped and lost a very mild result. I would select a product and use it a year intensively. If you get

results go "maintanence" or try to get even larger. If you don't get resulrs save your money. Do I make any

sense?

Anonymous,

It seems like you are pushing PM hard! If PM didnt work for L then it doesnt work for her. Is that good enough? Its up to her if she what she wants to use.

Can you read?

Yeah I am just giving up on responding to this.

As for my breast quest, I may continue a bit longer, up the dosage a bit, massage more, and see where it takes me.

I'll keep everyone updated! Hopefully progress will come.

I don't know anything about how well the product works yet since I just purchased it. I was just letting you know that I purchased it from a local source, Siriporn Cosmeceutical (not overseas) and I had a small issue (USPS didn't ship in a pressurized compartment is what I think happened.) but anyway the company took care of me regarding it. I sent an email and I wasn't even requesting anything more just giving information about what took place and they replaced my destroyed products. Not only that I accidently shipped to an old physical address that was in my paypal account and they changed the address for me.
Like I said I don't know anything about how well the product works yet but if you are going to order this place had super service and I received it in only a few days.

http://puerariamirificabuteasuperba1.com

Hi girls,
I've been a lurker on these forums for a little while and have just received my first shipment of Ro-bust cream and pills. I know that Deb advises not to start the pills until the first day of your period and to then break after 15 days, but is the main reason for this so as not to interfere with our menstrual cycle, or are we meant to be more susceptible to growth at these times? I guess I'm just a bit impatient to start! I only finished my period a few days ago and don't want to have to wait a month to start the pills! I'm also not to bothered about interruptions to my cycle.

Thanks heaps and happy boobie growing to all :-)

Hello everyone. Were have you all been. I know I have been out of the pills lately but I have not seen many of you lately in my store. I sold out now of the Ro-Bust Pills. This is a good thing and a bad thing. I should be restocked next week.

NEWS ON STHERB PRODUCTS:
I have made a deal with stherb to hold stock in the USA so I can ship orders out from the USA to my USA/CANADIAN Customers ...You should be able to get the pills in 2 - 5 days now !!!! That is a real plus as I see it. I will have their cream too.

I have the Ro-Bust cream now so I am not in as big a hurry to get the stherb cream in the USA. But some women do like the Stherb cream so I will get it for shiping from a USA location. This is really good news. I have nearly lost my business over these long shipping delays. Those days are Gone forever.

NEWS ON SIRIPORN PRODUCTS:
I have their Butea Superba now. I don't have the listing up yet but will next week. This as you know is for our men who are into herbs and would like to enhance or wnat to practice NPE Natural Penis Enhancement or NSE Natural Sex Enhancement. You can read more about it on the listing . It basically acts on the body like an herbal viagra without the side effects only in a more natural and slower gentler way. The biologic activity is identical.

They are working on a V-Product. A vaginal product for woman that have vaginal atrophy from childbirth or any other reason. This can be related to hormone changes that accompany menopause. You may have read the study on my "health aging and PM" custom page on the site. PM has profound effects on vaginal tissue. It will be similar but better and more cost effective than the Lady's Secret that stherb has now for over $80.00 for .30oz !!!($56.00 on ebay).

Ok that is all for now. Sorry I was out of the pills for a bit. Siriporn is still experiencing growning pains. The owner is actually in Thailand now. But we talk often and are collaborating on the new products .

Oh I almost forgot the reason I wrote in...
I AM HAVING A PROMOTION ON EBAY FOR A WHILE.

FREE USA SHIPPING ON THE RO-BUST CREAM FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY. THE LISTING IS IN PURPLE AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE....JUST SEARCH FOR RO-BUST AND IT WILL TAKE YOU THERE. I HOPE SOME OF YOU CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS IT WILL SAVE YOU 6 OR MORE DOLLARS. I AHVE ALSO REDUCED INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING WHILE THIS IS GOING ON.

hi i'm on the birth control pill seasonale which gives me only 4 periods a year. how would i use the st. herb pm pills with that since there is no period to start and stop each month?? would anyone have an idea?? thank you i appreciate it!!! btw i also started using ro-bust a couple weeks now...can't tell if its working yet...also i tried the gum and even f-cup cookies before...nothing worked...hopefully ro-bust works!!

you would prob use the instructions that are for woman with no periods. the menopause instructions perhaps? not sure.

try emailing the company and ask. just to be sure not to screw up your already constricted period sched.

Do not use pueraria mirifica with birth control period.

hello!
i live in Philippines and i wanna order the robust cream...will i receive my order for sure no matter how far i am?
anyone? pls tell me what happened to your boobies now while on robust cream?
i used pueraria cream before and i had cystic acne around my breast so i stopped using it...pls tell me if the robust cream will or won't do so...
pls help...thanks so much! take care

Robust is a PM product too so you might have the same experience with the PM cream that you used b4 but who knows you won't with robust this time. I think Deb ships internationally the product but the package might only be lost in the mail, you know what i mean.

Since you are there in the Phils., why not try the products that are there like supershine, her appeal, etc. Go to GNC stores in the malls for herbs too. Who knows you will find one that works for you ("hiyang")there. You will be spared of the int'l shipping fee too. NBE is "trial and error" method just like birth control pills if you don't like side effects.

I am one of the first users of robust in this forum. I used almost two bottles. It was working for me (I used the pills too) but I just can't go on with the smell. I'm just too sensitive with smell so I stopped using it(smelled like a spoiled milk for me), also i stopped the pills on my third month when I started gaining weight especially on my belly. I started to crave for "more" food and felt hungry always. I don't like to gain anymore weight so I stopped the pills. So far, my boobs grew 1.5 inches in those months of using PM. I was off from PM pills and cream for a month then had detox for a week in preparation for another NBE route.

Now, I am on Collagen+C (Type 1 and 3) and Flaxseed Oil Capsule that I bought from Costco. It's too early to judge but I like what I see after just a month of using them. An inch increase in just a month(today is the 6th day of my cycle) but I don't like to celebrate yet because this might only be water retention.
But really, I had been feeling frequent itchiness and pain inside my boobs so I believe this is growth. Best of all, since starting collagen, I feel that I am full always(NO food cravings). I only eat because I know I have too. I can deal with one meal a day which caused my 6 pound loss in a month. I'm back in my original weight before PM. I am thinking, Collagen Capsules are good in NBE because aside from its tissue development role, it balances the weight gain side effect of other NBE products. So ladies, if you're scared to gain weight in your NBE journey, try including collagen capsules in your program. just make sure you are not allergic with the animal source.

This is my one year in my NBE journey. So far, I went from very loose A cup last year to full A/loose B today. My goal this year is AT LEAST full B cup. If my recent NBE program continuously works for me, that is possible after just few months.

You won't see results on robust it does not work

Not only that, I've been emailing Deb for over a week. She finally responded and said she'd replace it on time for me before I leave for vacation. Now she says she's been sick and won't get it here on time. She can overnight it and do right by me - I've been buying St herb from her for over a year. We'll see what kind of person she really is

I OVERNIGHTED the other product to her. This forum is getting to be?????

If I come on the forum I am accused of spamming. If I don't I am accused of not caring. What am I supposed to do..Bu the Way the one who is posting nasty remarks about me is [name removed].

Deb,
Good that you are here.Hope you are feeling better..
Question about Robust Pills..I am a 36a so should i use 200mg per day or 400? and do you think day 1 of period is actually better than day 7?Thanks

Deb, that was quite low of you to announce her name on a PUBLIC forum. She has been a customer of yours for over a year! Either way it should not matter. You definitely crossed the line. You blame your illness for not responding to your customers, mailing packages on time, etc. I'm VERY familiar with Lupus as my mother has it (over 15 years). She never makes any type of commitments especially any work endeavors b/c she knows she can't predict her good days and bad days. For the life of me I cannot figure out why you have your business knowing your limitations. Ever heard the saying "the customer is always right"? Certainly you should have thought before reacting and accouncing her name for anyone to see. My prediction is you will lose business as a result. Should be a lesson learned.

I can't believe you just released YOUR customer information to the public. That is definitely bad business practices and bad business ethics. It shouldn't matter how upset the customer made you. You should always conduct yourself in a professional manner.

In regards to you coming on the forum and it being considered spam, isn't that what you are doing?
It's not like you come on here and answer questions about YOUR product. You drop one liners like "come to ebay and buy my stuff". I don't consider that help at all, and if you do your in business is in trouble. I contacted you in regards to your pills because I had seen you on the forum and was interested in PM. But instead you said you were too busy to answer any of the question I had sent you in an email. So if you call that help, then I am sure not many people want your help. I have spent time reading through all the important/helpful post in the PM forum. Yes, I went through all the pages started with the very first message posted. Throughout all the message I always see your post as pushing your own product and praising your own product. A good word of mouth will allow the product to sell itself. Word of mouth is probably one of the best marketing tools but it can also work against you. Like when I have a friend who asks about PM, I will tell her "get any brand but don't get any from Deb from ebay, because if you tell anyone about her bad business practices she will publish your name on a website for everyone to see".

As for your illness, I am not sympathetic in the sense that you will not follow through with what you say. If your illness prevents you from sending customers what they paid for then: DON'T RUN A BUSINESS. It is that simple. I will never buy your products and I will discourage others from doing so too, because of your disregard for privacy, and customer service. You do realize you are not the only one who sells PM. In this day and age, what sets a business apart is the willingness to go over and beyond what the customer expects. I know this because I run a very successful business.

Anon,

I think this should not be on this site, we are not interested in your squabbling, maybe email Deb directly if you need to complain.

I have no squabble to email her over it was not me. I am just voicing my opinion, since she took the time to voice hers. I just wanted to post it anonymously.

Actually, I am glad annon. posted her problems here with Debs,, we as consumers need all the help we can get when it comes to purchasing PM. Good and bad reviews are needed for deciding where to get PM. Thanks Annon.

Grief this whole thread is rediculous!

I would, however, give a second thought to a seller that released identity info for ANY reason. If it is that important, ID them to proper authorities, not the public!!um, i think, UNPROFESSIONAL is the term I'm looking for.

MY SOAP BOX ;)

I wouldn't say this thread is rediculous. Mommcafee I gather you are new here. If you've read through any old posts concerning Deb, I'm sure you'd understand. I personally think she needs to banned from spamming the forum. Like one other poster said, she doesn't offer any useful information, just pushing her products. After announcing her customers name that truely did it for me.

GO AWAY DEB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE'RE TIRED OF THE SPAM, WHINNING, AND NON-SENSE YOU BRING TO THE FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS. I've tried Robust. Slight increase, nothing to write home about.

You know you are right..Could it be she just came here and posted and never read questions asked?I don't think so..I didn't get my products from her anyway since she replied to my email once and never replied on my further questions..I just chose to buy from siriporn's website..i never knew how severe or not severe her illness was so just thought that was the problem..But this got me thinking,she couldn't be sick for over 3 months..I contacted her middle-end of May and she never replied back to my other question..just replied on how good the Robust products are and then nothing...

I agree with sandy, there's always the option to buy directly from Siriporn.
(It was so long ago since I used their PM cream so I can't remember how my body/boobs reacted on the cream.)