I was wondering how your were doing in terms of NBE. I remember you were saying that you were continuing on with NBE still, so I am wondering what results have you gotten so far? Are you going to post any more pics, updated pics?

I was thinking of trying your PM, because you give a money back guarantee, but I am unsure if it will work for me and I dont want to waste anymore money at this point.

Thanks.

Hi and thanks for asking. Actually, I went from a very small B to a full C with PM, and that took me about 8 months. I have to admit that after that, I was not very consistent and ended up taking time off from PM after the 8-month mark. I have since continued on with PM and pretty much stabilized at a full C. I am currently about the same size as my #3 pic on the "Personal Picture Pages" http://www.breastnexus.com/bellabb.html (or maybe a tad bit bigger) and happy to say I've not lost anything :)

If you want to try my PM, then go for it girl. If you don't get the results you want, I'll give you your money back no matter how long it's been. If you are not happy, I don't want you paying a dime. I'm also always available if you have any questions or if you need help after you order. Email me and I'll walk you through the whole process until you reach your goal :)

P.S. I'll be sending in my latest pic later today and I'll let the forum know when it gets posted.

XOXO,
Bella

http://www.BellasPM.com
Bella@BellasPM.com

Thanks for your reply.

I had sent you an email, but I will ask you a few questions here.

On your website it says you give a 60 day money back guarantee, but above you say no matter how long it is you will give the guarantee. What are the details? I am always willing to try a product that has a money back guarantee because in most cases it will work.

Also, I am wondering why PM works for some and not for others?

How long will it take to start seeing results? How long did it take you to start seeing results?

How long have you been taking PM for? Does that mean you can only grtow so big then after you will stop?

Why do you say to take PM 7 days after your period and not the first day?

Thanks.

Great pics! I just saw them and I think they show a good progression, with each pic.

I hope I can get results such as yours.

You said you took a short break, how long did you take a break for?

Are you still taking PM caps? Are you going to take a maintenance dose after?

Thanks again.

Hey Bella, thanks so much for posting new piks!!! They look fantastic and I needed the motivation to continue. just what I needed to kick myself in the butt and get back into NBE mode. Thanks so much again.

Bella,

Were you taking anything else beside PM pills and cream throughout your 16 month journey? Also, did you take calcium to enhance the effect of PM, as I have seen some places advise.

Thanks.

Hello 32dds,
Here are the answers to your questions:

Q) "On your website it says you give a 60 day money back guarantee, but above you say no matter how long it is you will give the guarantee. What are the details? I am always willing to try a product that has a money back guarantee because in most cases it will work."
A) If it so happens that you don't see or feel any results after 2 months of usage, let me know and I will refund 100% of your purchase price including shipping. I want you happy and satisfied.

Q) "Also, I am wondering why PM works for some and not for others?"
A) There are countless factors that affect the way PM interacts with any given person. Internal chemistry, age, lifestyle, body type, family genetics, hormonal balance, daily stress levels, dietary/nutritional intake, pregnancy & breastfeeding history, quality of PM, method of taking the PM, etc. can all contribute to the success or failure of PM. The only way to know for sure if it will work for you is to try it and see what happens.

Q) "How long will it take to start seeing results? How long did it take you to start seeing results?"
A) It took me about one month to feel the tingles and see a little more fullness.

Q) "How long have you been taking PM for? Does that mean you can only grow so big then after you will stop?"
A) I have been taking PM for a total of 16 months if you count out the month I took off. There is definitely a limit to how big you can grow with PM. I believe this has much to do with your specific genetics and body type. You can only stretch nature so far. :)

Q) "Why do you say to take PM 7 days after your period and not the first day?"
A) Most manufacturers recommend days 1-14. This is probably because that is when estrogen is the lowest and therefore estrogen receptor sites are the most sensitive. By originally (*see note below) recommending days 7-21, I was just putting that same principle to work by waiting longer. In my opinion, waiting longer and starting the PM after menstruation ends is more of a natural approach because estrogen is naturally low during menstruation and it is better practice to let this occur naturally. By running further into the cycle, this takes advantage of a different window of opportunity to keep estrogen levels higher and promote breast growth. In my opinion, this approach follows more closely to the natural rise and fall of estrogen and may lower the chances of an irregular cycle.

***IMPORTANT NOTE: All PM orders have now been shipping with a change of instructions that recommend to start PM on the day that menstruation ends, whenever that may be (instead of day 7), and continue for 14 days from that day. This change was made because it customizes the dosage period to each woman's specific, fluctuating cycle.

Please keep in mind that each company that gives recommendations on when and how long to take their PM are doing just that; recommending. Remember that PM is a complex herb that has not yet been fully figured out scientifically. Therefore, most usage instructions are based on theory and the limited amount of scientific information currently available. The choice of when you should take PM it is ultimately up to you as you try it on your own and follow what works best for you.

Q) "You said you took a short break, how long did you take a break for?"
A) I took a one month break.

Q) "Are you still taking PM caps? Are you going to take a maintenance dose after?"
A) I am still taking the PM and I plan on taking it religiously until the end of the year, at least. When I do eventually stop taking the full dose, I will slowly ramp down each month, little-by-little, until I am taking one Cap or 300 mg. per day (14 days on & 14 days off) for maintenance.

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Snowflake, Thank you for your kind words. I'm glad you are getting back into NBE mode! I believe in you!

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Hello Anonymous,
Here are the answers to your questions:

Q) "Were you taking anything else beside PM pills and cream throughout your 16 month journey?"
A) I wasn't taking anything else specifically for NBE, but now that I look back, there were some things that I did ingest that could have helped me slightly.
-I ate avocado (possible boobie food?) just about every other day - I am so addicted :)
-I took Milk Thistle and Dandelion for liver and kidney health a couple times per week.
-I tried Maca for about a month or so for its stress and energizing effects.

Q) "Also, did you take calcium to enhance the effect of PM, as I have seen some places advise."
A) I occasionally took a liquid calcium/magnesium supplement but I was not very consistent with it. I did though, drink organic whole milk and take whey protein shakes every couple of days in place of a meal, so this probably helped keep my protein and calcium up as I grew.

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I hope that covers everything. Thank you everyone for your kind words and support.
FYI: As mentioned above, my latest pic has been uploaded to my personal picture page. Find it at:
http://www.breastnexus.com/bellabb.html

XOXO,
Bella

http://www.BellasPM.com
Bella@BellasPM.com

Hey girls,, this is just my opinion,, but here goes. When you have your period your hormones are at their lowest, so I like the idea of starting at day 7 after period begins, I feel my hormones are on the way back up and I feel the PM works with that rather than taking it when hormones are so low, that one week of period is total waste of growing time and really not putting PM at an advantage,,, but this is just my thoughts.

Thanks, Snowflake.

I think I may try to get PM, when I get some oney from the hubby! I will start on the day my period ends and continue on for 14 days after that and see how that goes.

But do you have messed up periods by doing it that way?

Thanks, Bella. You have been really helpful with everything. Especially with the money back guarantee, I have nothing to lose! I just really hope it will work for me. If it does work how long should I plan to use it for? 2 years? More?

My periods stay regular doing it this way. I wait the 7 days, during this time I am having my period, I take it for 14 days and then about 5 days later I get my period. it lasts about 3 days and is heavy. Please look at Shell's threads near beginning of this forum, she was on high doses of PM never breaking and ended up with a blood clot in her leg. PM is powerful stuff, you can't mess with it the way you can with regular herbs, I don't think people realize this. Some questions lately on this forum reflect that. You CAN"T take PM and Bovine ovary together. You shouldn't take high doses of PM and then add other herbs either.

Bella just used PM, maybe in varying amounts, but just PM and she has proved amazing results. Follow directions and instructions on the product you are taking and don't be adding other stronger herbs,,, you only suceed in screwing it up. just my 2 cents, but hope it helps somebody.

snowflake , can you use pm with one or two other herbs?

im taking sawpalmetto extract, 15 drops 2x a day, and currently am using it externally as well in a cream. but i am wanting to replace the cream with PM cream...

so pm cream
and sawpalmetto internally

what do you think?

Snowflake,

Thanks for the info. How long have you been o PM? How much have you gained so far?

If you were to add anything it would be low doses of Saw Palmetto, there is no need for anything else with PM being at about 900mgs daily. Other than the basics,,, vitamin c, Borage oil or an oil of your choice and a protein supplement. I was a A cup and now a B cup. Have yet to finish a six month supply of Bella's,, had to quit because of weight gain from trying to quit smoking at the same time. If you smoke or drink expect greatly diminished results for most people. Hormones can't function properly if you smoke, just my experience, of course peolpe are different.

OK,,, now I am wondering about MSM,, all this talk on the main board. But what is the diiference between MSM and collagen????

From what i have read on the main forum MSM stimulates the body to produce its own collagen...Maybe it is a more natural way.Who knows how much the body really absorbs from the collagen taken in pills from..But really MSM seems to be interesting.But it has to be take in high doses to work for booby growth!

When you say it has to be taken in high doses for NBE, how many grams should I be taking? Meaning the bare minimum I should take?

Thanks.

It should be taken from 6 -8 g per day..But i am still looking for different brands.Need to find something good but not pricy.

Have you decided on PM yet?I ordered the PPM pills and cream will start next month with everything :)

No, I havent decided yet. I will take me some time to make a decision like that because I have to weight out all the options and get as much info as I can about PM and how it wokrs. Thats just how I am. Mainly because I have tried alot of things that didnt suit me.

When you start can you let me know how you are doing on it?

Ofcouse i will.But i won't start until next month since I would have already had my period when my order arrives so will have to wait for my next cycle.I am considering MSM too.If i get them i will try them after a month of PM alone to see if it really has a boosting effect :) Good luck with your decision..

whats different about Bella's pm from other formulas? What makes hers so great? Just a question?

Its not just if the PM is better, sometimes its how easy is it to obtain. In Canada PM is not available, but I can get Bellas. In the UK, I would presume that ST Herb PM is easier to get. So it kinda depends where you live and what you can afford. For me PM has worked better than all Herb routines I tried or Bovine Ovary. I was at an A cup now in a B cup. Bella's was easy for me to buy and I liked the fact of having a 6 month supply for 100 dollars. I have spent hundreds on various herbs and about 50 dollars on the Bovine or rather it was Pocine ovary, that I just couldn't take after about 3 weeks and ended up throwing it out. Also tried full Potencial 3 bottles for 78 dollars I believe and it did nothing but make my stomach and butt fatty with cellulite. So I have to say I wasafter everything I tried quite impressed with Bella's product for me. Everyone will have their preference as to where they can get it and how it worked for them. Good luck with what you choose.

Wow! I just joined this forum a few days ago and have been reading like a mad woman to try to find where I want to start my NBE program. I've already started massaging, but I need to get a cream to go with it.

I was going to start with Wonderup because of the good success rate. I stumbled upon Bella's site the other day and have had a browser tab open with it since. Then tonight I find this thread and found out that Bella offers a money-back guarantee? Whoa! I'll be doing more research, but now I'm wondering if PM would be a better way to start than WU. I assumed that PM would be too potent to start with, but maybe not.

I have a topic started in the main forum ("New here and excited!") which discusses some of my issues with what to start. I had been on HRT but it actually made my levels go down, so I dropped it.

I thought about starting with some Vitex and then a milk thistle before I actually start the program.

I'd love to hear any suggestions or further feedback on Bella's products and results you want to share!

How long did you take Bella's before you noticed a difference? I have used a whole bottle of potion before my period has come around, and haven't seen any results yet. I am waiting to take the caps before I make a final judgement. It has only been 2 or 3 weeks so far, but I couldn't wait to start using the potion. I will start the caps next Tuesday, but was curious how long after you started taking the caps did you see results? I am massaging right now with borage and the perfect potion. So far I have noticed the potion has made my nipples a lot lighter and has gotten the breakouts from the borage oil under control, but I'm still measuring 31".

OK, for me i perfer internal, never used the potions and lotions. I took the caps and by second month showed an increase in size, basically from a A to B cup. I really think the potion has to be used with the caps and wouldn't put so many expectations on just the potion or lotion. I think internal use of PM is the way to go. Read Bella's program on her web page she used everything plus upped the doses of internal PM to over 900mgs per day.

Hey, Snowflake. Thanks for replying. :) I actually am kind of glad I got the lotion so far. I use it on my face and I think it is making my complexion better (I have acne prone skin). So I have found some benefits from the lotion so far, but I am starting the PM caps in about 4 days! Did you wait 7 days after the end of your cycle when you started? I plan to take 4 pills/day 300 MG, making my dosage 1200 mg/day. 2 pills 2 times/day. 2 in the morning and 2 at night. I think I remember Bella's site showing she used a little more than that though. I am hoping that will be enough. I'm a little surprised the borage oil isn't doing anything for me by itself since I've read such good things about it. I had used Fenu with it before and gained an inch of growth, but was also taking 2000 MG of Fenu/day. How long have you been taking the caps?? Just curious about what to expect. I have been really nervous about trying something different since the Fenu was working for me, but I really wanted to try Bella's stuff. Glad to have someone who has tried with sucess, it makes me more confident that the caps will do the trick!

Yes, start caps 7 days after period started. good luck. Try flax seed oil, girls also had possitive results with that, and also Royal Jelly, tiawan forums praise it. Its really cheap,, about 8.99 for Holista brand here in Canada.

Snowflake,

Since you have begun PM, you went from an A to a B. Have you been taking PM continuously? Have you since increased from a B cup? HOw long in total have you now been on PM for?

Thanks for your input.

What if I put flax seed powder into my borage oil? Would that help? I read that Eve did that, so I bought Flax seed powder. Also I drink flax seeds daily in my protein shakes. :)

Hi everyone,

I've just started on bella's PM (using the powder and the perfect potion serum). I've been on the serum for 10 days and the powder for 6, and I've already felt tingles and experienced a tiny, tiny bit more fullness. I'll keep you posted with how I go as the months pass.

hi everyone, i just got my bellas caps in the mail a couple days ago, im gonna track my progress n keep ya'll informed, i plan to take calcium n drink soy protien shakes while takin the pm. Am thinkin of adding maca also (no harm in a lil more booty!). bella's been fantastic to deal with n shipping to aus was super fast, A+++ for customer service, cross ya fingers for me m body responds to the caps!

Hey Girls ,, best of luck!!!!

hey ladies, not sure if its just cos im really busy n tired but since i started PM caps a couple of days ago im really emotional, crying a lot, im not really going through any sad stuff at the moment, this is what usually happens when im about to get my period but i just finished it! which is why i started the PM, anyone else had this reaction?

No i didn't but it might be the increased estrogen in your body!

the only problem with dr bella'a logic (phd of the kitchen is this:


taking high amounts of PM lowers lutinizing hormone which in turn lowers your (big word) endogenous estrogen.


By taking 7 days after your cycle begin is simply Bella Logic.............Yeah makes sense.



robin

I noticed I was a bit more emotional, but at the same time not nearly as bitchy the week before my period. I don't know exactly why the 7 day thing works better,, but I do know that my boobs are the smallest at the end of my period and a few days to follow, so it must have something to do with hormone levels being at their lowest. And I am not going to dispute with someone whose boobs have grown that much(Bella) with just one herb(PM). So anyway, I am still at a B size and hoping this time I will get to a C cup bra, will have to order more product soon. Good Luck girls with progress and stay in touch.

Hey guys,

I've just finished 2 months on Bellas (powder and creams) - here's how it's been going so far:

- first month was slow, nothing much happening. i find i get a bit headachey and dizzy for the first couple of days on the powder, but that passes. i'm taking the recommended dose (not more)
- towards the end of the second month I got a fair bit of breast swelling, but not sure if it was fluid retention or "growth", as it's mostly subsided now my period is finished
- My period came 5 days early, which was a pain in the arse
- i've just finished that period, and my breasts have lost a lot of the "fluidy" feeling and are almost back to how they were before starting the program. I think they might be a tiny bit bigger than before I began, but not much. I read somewhere that most people experience the fastest/most growth in the third and fourth months on PM, so I'll keep going and see how I go.

- I'm currently a small A cup, hoping to get into a B cup by the end of my 4th or 5th month. However, I'm worried about this **** giving me cancer! Seriously - I might take it to my doctor and get some advice. I don't want to **** myself up forever (I read one woman now needs a hysterectomy as a possible result of taking PM??) just to have bigger boobs.

I'll keep you all posted on what the doc says about this stuff.

Blue_sardine,

Thank you for posting an update.

I'm not on Bella's (yet), but just started a different PM. I know exactly how you're feeling about taking this stuff to grow bigger breasts, but not exactly sure of all the ramifications. I've thought the same thing. I don't know what the right answer is.

i had bought Ainterol pills as well as the cheap PM pills from ebay.

I never took any of them because I was unsure about PM. Now I am thinking it is a good thing that I didn't take them. I cannot say forsure that "shanie's" pre-cancerous condition is due to PM or not. But most definitely taking the PM did not help. I don't think for me it is worth the risk. I am just not going to take PM, EVER!

Because I do have so many pills I will just use them in lotion instead, so they are not wasted and put to good use. I wish everyone else on PM good luck.

Seems to be a bit of a panic starting here and for good reason,, but read that post again,, the woman has been on UNPROTECTED ESTROGEN for years and only started the PM recently which started her period again. I would think the UNPROTECTED ESTROGEN,,, whatever that is, is the culprit here not the PM,,,, however for the time being, until I hear from Wahaika on the Main Forum, I share your concerns.