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Nationals questions ??

by (Login jcramirez24)
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Does anyone know if there is a list of the Vendors that are attending this years Nationals?? I have several large items I need to pick up and I'm willing to wait but I want to be sure that the Vendors will be there. My other question is about teenagers! My 16 year old son is interested in going but doesn't want to be the only teen there. Do many teens attend?? He would only miss 2 days of school and I think it would be a great experience since he is just starting to show!

Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 7:41 AM

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I would love to have a list of the vendors that will be there. I only know of two

by (Login NikkiandJulie)
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I will be there with my Canine Massage and Bulldog metal and vinyl art, we will also have lighted collars and leashes and Pet Skin Doctor products and some new products from the Company of Animals. I know that the Purple Shamrock will also be there with beautiful figurines and plates and other collectibles. Those are the only two I know of.

Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 4:18 PM

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BCA Bulldog Standard Discussion Part VI Hindquarters

by (Login HMcDermott)
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Hindquarters

Legs
The hind legs should be strong and muscular and longer than the forelegs, as to elevate the loins above the shoulders. Hocks should be slightly bent and well let down, so as to give length and strength from the loins to the hock. The lower leg should be short, straight and strong, with the stifles turned slightly outward and away from the body. The hocks are thereby made to approach each other, and the hind feet to turn outward.

Hind Feet
The feet should be moderate in size, compact and firmly set. Toes compact, well split up, with high knuckles and short stubby nails. The hind feet should be pointed well outward.

Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 6:58 AM

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Hindquarters

by (Login HMcDermott)
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During my time in Bulldogs I've seen several changes in overall rears. And I'm referring to degrees of things and numbers of dogs at shows exhibiting these characteristics.

If you go back to the 1998 BCA Nationals tape you will notice lots of straight rears. As in many straight stifles and straight rear legs. A few years later there was a noticeable shift to many over angulated dogs in my opinion.

And of course during these times there plenty of dogs that had very nice rears. Others may disagree and that's ok with me.

One thing I would say is that slight modifications from one generation to another are easier to achieve than wholesale make overs in short times. Know what's behind your dogs when planning breedings. Be cautious about not giving up your strengths when breeding to improve and working towards the perfect bulldog.

Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 11:27 AM

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Philly this weekend

by (Login hugobull)
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..sorry to keep bugging you..

Where is the show? Town.. venue...
Thank you!

Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 5:33 AM

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Re: Philly this weekend

by (Login neenees)
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http://www.infodog.com/jps/083/jpg083.pdf

Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 9:21 AM

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should I put my puppy on nu-vet plus supplement just changed to adult food

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Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 3:39 AM

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Nationals - for those of you who have not sat in at Elizabeth Hugo Milams presentation she

by (Login Helen R. DeAmicis)
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does an outstanding job . I sit in at every National and am very interested each and every time.
Check and see when it is available and try to be there as it is a very informative slide and talk program she has put together.

Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 1:23 AM

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actually...

by Elizabeth (Login hugobull)
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..this year the power point program will be about health testing. I will have the standard program with me, as several people asked to see "private showings" since it was decided to do something different this year for bulldog 101.

Please attend the health testing seminar.

Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 5:30 AM

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Power Point

by (Login Mary_MN)
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Hi Elizabeth,

I cannot make Nationals but would LOVE to see the power point document. Would it be possible for you to email it after your presentation? I am so hoping that more and more people begin bulldog health testing.

Thanks!

Mary and Otto, Maisy & Apple
Marby Bulldogs

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Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 5:47 AM

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Re: Power Point

by (Login hugobull)
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email me after national (I am very forgetful)
celticdogges@atlinkwifi.com

Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 6:50 AM

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We will be there!

by (Login DonandKim)
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Anything related to Bulldog health and health testing is of paramount importance to us. Cya there!

Perserverance isn't a long race.
It's a series of short races,
ran one after the other.

-In memory of Casper

Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 3:12 PM

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Can't wait to see you both again. Be sure to stop by and say hello!

by (Login NikkiandJulie)
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Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 4:18 PM

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Packing for Kansas City ~ question

by (Login doblackburn)
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So, I'm gearing up to pack for Nationals week. We aren't too far away (about an 8 hour drive), but I'm sure I'll have the car packed to gills with crates, grooming stuff, food, dog beds, toys, people clothes, etc. Oh, and a few doggies.

In thinking about what to pack, I wondered what are some of the odd items you all might bring to help get you through the week.

Do you have something in your arsenal of travel goods, either for the dogs or for yourselves, that some of us may find "unusal?" Something you recommend to make hotel living easier? Something that we shouldn't forget?

Just curious....

Thanks!
Deirdre

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 7:12 PM

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I always take along...

by (Login rubydooby)
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two king size sheets to cover the bedspreads so if your dog 'happens to' hhehehe...get on the bed it is no problem.

A small cooler is great for having ice on hand and for taking to ringside. Take a few metal bowls for the room. Crate covers are good too. there are fridges in all the rooms, apparently.

How will I meet you??? I can't wait to meet some fellow BDW people...how could we arrange a meetup in the lounge or something??? with a bunch of us? can we post something on here?
I am flying and will arrive on the 21st and would love to meet you!!!

Andrea (you can e-mail me if you like) SEE YOU SOON.

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Andrea, Ruby, Lola and Jigger
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Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 7:35 PM

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Take your own...

by (Login rubydooby)
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cutlery...good for the canned dog food. I always take my own towels/facecloths for the dogs. Take a nice wine glass if you plan to have a sip or two in the room. This stuff can all go in the small cooler.

oh, yes, take your show clothes...or I may have to show your dog for you!

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Andrea, Ruby, Lola and Jigger
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Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 7:58 PM

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We're bringing EVERYTHING!

by (Login DonandKim)
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4 Bulldogs, Kim, 4 suits(me), 5 dresses/outfits(Kim),kennel clothes, kickin back clothes, extra shoes, winter early morning "dog walkin carharts", gloves, food, coffee, wetbar, grill, water, personal meds, extra contact lenses, extra doggie bedding, doggietoys, crates w/ covers, show leads, grooming case, walk leads, expen, expen cover,potty bags, dogfood, 2 cans of canned pumpkin, canine first aid kit, sting/bite kit, vet records, akc papers, pictures, cameras, laptop, generator, toolkit, extra fuel...

Oh did I mention, we are bringin the fifth wheel? Can't miss us, we will be flying the Stars and Stripes and the British Union Jack.

We havent gotten the final final of where we will be parked, but we will be there Saturday morning figuring it out, and setting up and settling in for an awesome Nationals!

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 8:26 PM

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Grill????

by Lorraine E. (Login kar_isma1)
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Now that is one I would not have thought of....ever....even now...is Kansas City warm?

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Lorraine
If only I was as good a person as my dogs seem to think I am!
Find us on:
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Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 1:11 AM

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Andrea great idea to meet somewhere.. that is your job to head up now :O)

by (Login cherishedbullies)
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Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 8:47 PM

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I am so looking forooward to meeting a lot of people from the board. This is going to be

by (Login NikkiandJulie)
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a great Week!

Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 4:20 PM

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Question regarding head & the standard

by Tammy (Login canuckbulldog)
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I think my 1 year old Teela has some really great strong points but she also has weak points like any other dog. I'm new at showing as well as learning more about the breed in general. After doing research on the breed I'm finding that her head is not correct, her nose isn't layed back enough. I look from the front and she looks pretty good, square, good jaw, ears look correct, it's her profile that doesn't look great. Also, what about female vs. male? Teela went up against a puppy in her last show, he was a month younger than her but his head was massive compared to hers. Teela still won which made me feel bettter

Do you think judges keep in mind that the female bulldog is not as "massive" like the standard calls for?
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Thanks,
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Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 3:34 PM

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A massive head does not mean a correct head

by Louise Brinsden (Login brinsdenbulldogs)
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and yes judges should give due consideration to the fact that the bitch is not as a grand as the dog.

Your bitch has lots of virtues, one being that she has a lovely wide lower jaw IMO You are right when you say her layback isn't great but this is a very common fault.

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Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 5:08 PM

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Re: Question regarding head & the standard

by (Login hugobull)
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Remember that they are not all perfect. Your bitch does have some good qualities in her head. It is also very square when looking at her face on.

When people look for perfection to the point of overlooking some very good dogs with a flaw or two, they get into trouble, especially when they judge.

I don't accept major type faults well at all. I look for the basic outline to be there. It is only then I nit-pick the best of those with the correct outline to find the winner.

e

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 5:48 PM

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You are describing the 'layback'

by (Login rubydooby)
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once the wiskers are shaved...her face will appear more mature. How old is she?

Some lines mature more quickly than others. Not having seen her in person, she appears to have wonderful nostrils, a good jaw and her layback can 'come on' with time. Her eyes are very nice. I think you have a very nice bitch there!

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Andrea, Ruby, Lola and Jigger
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Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 7:40 PM

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Re: You are describing the 'layback'

by Tammy (Login canuckbulldog)
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Thanks everyone for your help, she just turned 1 year old. This information is always great for newbies like me

Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 7:44 AM

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cant say i have ever seen layback come on with time??

by (Premier Login rhianniam)
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is that really possible? Can anyone answer that. Either they have it or they dont is my understand.
Her dogs nose is not set back which creates a nosey appearance. And IMO when a dog has a split nose rope or lack of nose rope this makes the nose placement more visable as well as the shape of the skull and presentation of layback.
But as in any dog, this is just one fault. No dog is perfect and a good judge will look at the overall picture. But for me personally i am big on layback and nose plaement. Its 6 points on the scale of points! One of my favorite features of this breed besides the tail.

Rhiann @ Butlerbullz

Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 9:24 AM

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yes, as the head grows and the jaw projects out

by Vicky L (Login ickytazz)
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the whole face changes, and the layback can and will change. Look at pictures of your bitch from when she was 6 months, 12 months, and then now. Im sure you will see some changes.

Elizabeth showed a pictures a while back of one of her boys, who's head changes alot from puppy to adult.

Vicky,
Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly

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Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 12:04 PM

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interesting..would love to see others pics

by (Premier Login rhianniam)
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I dont see changes in Mias at all. IMO the layback was there from the get go, length of skull changed and from this discussion i can now say that she may be shelfy..
so you have seen nose placement change as well? A nose not set back can turn and set back as the head grows? Because a nosey dog doesnt have correct layback, IMP if you do the angle meansurement right where- it should only touch the tip of the nose..the line shouldnt have to make adjustments around a nose that is set out...

Rhiann @ Butlerbullz

Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 1:02 PM

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i think it was E who posted pic of Oscar's head development

by (Login ickytazz)
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it changed so much.

What i have seen is the nose tip back changes as they mature.

Vicky,
Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly

www.LangagerBulldogs.com

PHOTOS ARE PROPERTY OF LANGAGER BULLDOGS, YOU MUST HAVE WRITTEN PERMISSION FOR ANY USE OF THESE PHOTOS FROM LANGAGERBULLDOG.

Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 1:47 PM

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Re: cant say i have ever seen layback come on with time??

by (Login hugobull)
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It can improve with age.. but to a point, and only up to a certain age.
Oscar at 4 months looked very nosey to me, by the time he hit 12 montsh he was fine.

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Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 1:51 PM

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BCA Bulldog Standard Discussion Part V Forequarters

by (Login HMcDermott)
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Forequarters

Shoulders
The shoulders should be muscular, very heavy, widespread and slanting outward, giving stability and great power.

Forelegs
The forelegs should be short, very stout, straight and muscular, set wide apart, with well developed calves, presenting a bowed outline, but the bones of the leg should not be curved or bandy, nor the feet brought too close together.

Elbows
The elbows should be low and stand well out and loose from the body.

Front Feet
The feet should be moderate in size, compact and firmly set. Toes compact, well split up, with high knuckles and very stubby nails. The front feet may be straight or slightly out-turned.

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 6:07 AM

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Forequarters

by (Login HMcDermott)
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You simply have to admire our breed for most of its characterictics as compared to the majority of other breeds. The forequarters are no exception to that rule. Bulldog forequarters are not like most other breeds. How do we differ from most breeds?

Harrold
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Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 11:31 AM

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Fronts

by (Login DonandKim)
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I do like to see a well structured front. The part that trips up alot of people, both exibiting and judging, is the slight angulation part of the standard. I first thought that it meant that the dog should stack up like the straight-sided latter A. But upon alot of observation, it seems that the desired "shape" is more of a rounded top A. This would help accentuate the elbows and the drive during the gait.

Perserverance isn't a long race.
It's a series of short races,
ran one after the other.

-In memory of Casper

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 3:27 PM

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clarify..

by (Login hugobull)
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The part that trips up alot of people, both exibiting and judging, is the slight angulation part of the standard. I first thought that it meant that the dog should stack up like the straight-sided latter A. But upon alot of observation, it seems that the desired "shape" is more of a rounded top A. This would help accentuate the elbows and the drive during the gait.

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Don,

The only reason why I am asking this is because you are confusing me a bit and I want to make sure the people who are afraid to ask are not confused too.

Slight angulation in relation to front ends?

Also...in trying to understand your point of view, clarify what you mean by "drive during the gait"..

Get any image of an "A" out of your head..reference the pictures in my post..my dad always called tight fronts A-frames!

Thanks!

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 6:03 PM

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Re: clarify..

by (Login DonandKim)
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Shoulders: ...Slanting outwards. sorry, my interpretation of slanting was angulation. I was speaking of the A frames versus what is actually meant in the standard, I believe, was turn of shoulder. A Bulldog that has an A frame has a tight, or pinched gait, as though stepping on eggshells. The drive should be straight, and show ease in movement, but tight shoulders result in a herky jerky motion. Certainly not the standard. The turn of shoulder, that you illustrated, on the other hand, gives the Bulldog a more stable platform to move with. Sorry for the confusion. As we see, there are many ways to interpret.

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 7:07 PM

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Re: Forequarters

by (Login kristiebarwick)
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Its been awhile since I've shown another breed and when asked to... I had a hard time setting the dogs up. the width and depth of chest, and legs underneath the other breeds instead of set on the side are what stand out to me. What I have noticed is the lack of upper arm in some bulldogs, and wanting to see the top of the shoulder to the point of shoulder equal distance to the elbow, with allot of for chest in front of that while young. I really like the front outline in my puppy, I can pick her up under her chest and set her down and her feet land perfect without adjusting her. There are other things I'd change but I like her front assembly.

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 10:41 PM

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me too!!

by (Login bu11y)
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Love her front!

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Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 9:15 AM

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Re: Forequarters

by (Premier Login rhianniam)
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very nice!

Rhiann @ Butlerbullz

Posted on Nov 12, 2009, 9:38 AM

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muscular, very heavy, widespread

by (Login DLemons1)
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Another feature being lost to the straight terrier fronts. This feature IMO is one of those that makes a Bulldog a Bulldog.

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 5:37 PM

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Re: BCA Bulldog Standard Discussion Part V Forequarters

by (Login hugobull)
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Bulldog has a front unlike any other breed.

If you are confused about the part of the bulldog standard that says"...elbows should be low and stand well out and loose from the body..." statement, compare to the boxer standard; "... The elbows should not press too closely to the chest wall nor stand off visibly from it..."
Bulldogs are not "out at the elbow"
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The difference between correct and too straight is pretty obvious.
Too many people are so overly concerned with poker straight legs and poker straight movement that they forget type.

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The illustrations

by Sue (Login smr6)
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Thanks so much for providing illustrations, Elizabeth! They really add to your comments.

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 6:08 PM

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Untitled

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Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 8:45 PM

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my little brag

by (Login jollimore)
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My girl Sophie was invited to the Atlantic Top Dog Awards last weekend. To be invited you have to have won a Best Puppy in Group in the maritime provinces in Canada. Sophie has 2 BPIG and a BPIS under breeder judge Chris Neilson. She is just over a year old now. At the Atlantic Top Dog Awards, Sophie took a group 2. This is an unofficial CKC event but it was a lot of fun nonetheless. She was judged by 3 judges and given a score by each judge and the scores are then added together. There are 9 in the photo due to 3 rings being judged at the same time.

She's "Glendars Fancy Pants OnDaGo" [linked image]

Shelley - Sophie N Angels Mocha & Stella

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 3:41 PM

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Congrats!

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Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 4:07 PM

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Very Nice!

by Jessica (Login JessicaAndCrew)
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Congrats on your wins! And wonderful photo!!! She looks perfect!

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 5:09 PM

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Congrats!

by (Login eviesbulldogs)
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nice pic

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Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 5:16 PM

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BIG CONGRATS!...........

by (Login khobbs)
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......What a wonderful beginning for you and your new girl!!!

Kristina Hobbs
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Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 7:46 PM

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Congratulations!

by (Login MelissaLamb)
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Nice job Shelley n Sophie!

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 4:10 AM

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Way to go!!!

by (Login bu11y)
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Nice girl and looks like your having fun!!!

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Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 7:14 AM

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Thanks everyone

by (Login jollimore)
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It's been a difficult fall for me and I'm very happy to be back in the ring with Sophie.

Shelley - Sophie N Angels Mocha & Stella

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 5:03 PM

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congratulations Shelley

by barwickkristie (Login kristiebarwick)
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you deserve the very nice win, she's a really nice girl!!!

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Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 10:08 PM

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Just curious. . . . . . . . . . .

by (Login Inspirabull)
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What activity besides anything to do with Nationals are you most looking foward to when you arrive in Kansas City?

I am curious to know how people view our city.

Looking forward to seeing and meeting you,
Lisa

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 1:15 PM

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Well... I want to find good BBQ... any suggestions

by (Login mikki96)
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ok, so know you know... dog shows are about the food, you caught me... SD for the steaks, TN for the fried chicken, MI for the great fruits and Veggies...

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 1:47 PM

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Got that one taken care of!!

by (Login Inspirabull)
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I believe there is one close by to the hotel. I will call my girlfriend and ask. Her sister works there.

You better be bringing my ALFIE!! He NEEDS NEEDS some loving from me!!

Lisa

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 4:53 PM

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Sorry :-( He's staying home

by Dawn (Login mikki96)
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I am bringing Thor, Ferris and Alfie's momma Maddie... I am sure someone will hug and kiss you though if you ask nicely...

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 5:58 AM

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Alfie is not coming!!

by (Login Inspirabull)
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I will live. It will be hard to not be able to love on him but I guess that means Jim will have to take us to a show near you so I can love on that MAN!!!!!!!

Give him LOTS AND LOTS of loving for me,
Lisa

Posted on Nov 11, 2009, 1:56 PM

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Is there anything we shouldn't miss?

by (Login HEATHERMRI)
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I will be there with Vicky L, Deb, Cathy Revell, and Donna Rudyk. All of us are coming without dogs, so we'll have some free time to get into trouble if we can find it! What's the weather like there this time of year?

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 7:53 PM

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RE: Is there anything we shouldn't miss?

by (Login Inspirabull)
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Right now the weather is BEAUTIFUL!! I did hear on Sunday a possibility of snow but, just do not know exactly where.

Our weather in November is usually up and down but, I will give the week in weather as we near Nationals!!

As to places NOT to miss.......Luckily, we will have the Plaza lighting on Thanksgiving!! Unfortunately, there will be around 100,000 people also on the Plaza to enjoy.

We do have our Jazz district on 18th and Vine. Heard really great Jazz to enjoy!!

We also have Westport which I really like! If you have time we also have Zona Rosa (which is a beautiful shopping facility, outdoors). Next to the hotel, which we can walk indoors to is Crown Center. There will be outdoor ice skating, the Mayor's christmas tree is being erected as we speak, Hall's Crown Center (which has alot of Beautiful items for alot of high prices, nice to look at though). Nelson Atkin's Museum, the Lighting District,
we do have gambling boat's that are not too far, Independence Center (your typical indoor mall), our new Sprint Center (do not know what will be going on), we have a new IHL Hockey Team within 20 minutes of Westin.

If you are a history buff we do have the WW1 museum, Union Station with Science City indoors, and Kalediscope for the kids.

I think we can find y'all something to do. The Westin also will have alot of suggestions more to probably what everyone would love to do.

BBQ BBQ BBQ

One place I like to visit for the Bullies is Brookside Barkery which is in WESTPORT!!

Sorry for the long list but, I am so excited....to start this Nationals!!

Lisa

Also, if any of you get a chance, please, please, thank Dean Dickey and the Nationals Committee for ALL their hard work on Nationals.

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Thanks Lisa!

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I think I'm as excited as you are, I'm just trying to contain myself! Can't wait to meet everyone and finally see some dogs that I've been admiring in person.

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me too, im so excited to also get away from puppies and SLEEP

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throught the night.

Cant wait to fly out next Sunday, i have been thinking of what to pack.

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more charlie practise

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I just got home from charlies conformation class..he is slowly getting it..
he has a show soon.. doubt he will do much there.. he has a beautiful bdw bitch competition.. #2 bulldog in canada..right Melissa??
anyways what do you think..
he is 8 mnths old..

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He's getting to be a pro

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are you going to show him next time?

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Re: He's getting to be a pro

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I am learning how..I have some knee issues so getting on my knees to stack him is a problem.. Here in Canada we don't have ramps for the bullies.
I am letting the pro train him then I will take over and ruin him..LOL

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lol once he's trained

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he can train you

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He sure is growing!!

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And looks like you have his undivided attention for sure! Best of Luck with him!

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Good luck

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He may suprise you. He's probably "got it" Just deciding when to let you know LOL

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Sue

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Charlie is maturing nicely, I'm looking forward to seeing him in person again. Don't forget, he has two class bitches to compete against for points, not just Pumpkin. And getting to puppy group is always fun, and more practice for him as well. See you next wknd.

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Re: Sue

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oh yes.. 2 class bitches as well.. i just wanted to point out that bdw has canadas #2 bulldog on here.. (well owner lol ), its just so impresive

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:)

by (Login Jaxxonsmom)
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You look like you have been practicing alot with him

It is a fun ride these crazy dogshows. I will be bringing my little boy out at the Brantford show....he isnt nearly ready yet but its great for practice

He is just six months old and going through the puppy uglies right now :P Cant wait to meet you guys on the show trail and both of you keep your chins up.....always remember, you can win a BIS one day and be dumped the next...take both with dignity and make alot of friends along the way....in my 20 years I have seen pretty much everything you can imagine but have swam through with the help of many great people including many on this list

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LOVE THESE DISCUSSIONS!!!

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I am learning more and more....thanks for throwing out the topics Harold.

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me too!!! there's always something to learn or review!

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You're Welcome!

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You're welcome! If we quit learning what else is there? About the time we think we kow something we are actually ready to start learning!

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Great Teachers!

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As a new Bulldogger, I would like to thank you for initiating the conversation and teaching those of us who are new. Your patience and wisdom is greatly appreciated.

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Standard Post

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I LOVE to see all the replies . I agree and disagree on some things . The world would not turn if we all thought the same way . I have been in the breed since 1986 and still learn something about the breed everyday.
I read this and just have to shake my head ,only because of what I see some judges put up for winners . They are mostly all rounders and I swear they haven't a clue . Sometimes I would like to send them a copy of the standard ........lol

Keep up the GREAT post , it makes it a more interesting forum.

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Agreed

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Thanks all~

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funny you should mention that,,,,

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I had a couple of fellows approach me during a show, and ask if I knew where they could get a copy of the standard. I made it a point to get them copies, that day. Come to find out that they were provisional and were actually seeking the correct information about the breed.

Perserverance isn't a long race.
It's a series of short races,
ran one after the other.

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These are great discussions, I agree.---

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It's nice to get down to the "nuts and bolts" of our breed. Now, if only we could take all the best parts of each of our bulldogs and get them all combined into one package!

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about judges

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Some judges have a natural ability to tell the good dogs from the average dogs.

Once they have their good ones, the standard then helps them pick the best of the best.
This is why an expert specialist appeals to me more than an expert all-rounder, although an excellent all-rounder is much better to me than a so-so breeder-judge anyday.

If I am bringing an excellent dog to excellent competition, I want to make sure that my hard work is regarded by at the very least, an expert evaluation, devoid of the persoanl nonsense that can go on, or the lack of expertise that is rampant in both breeder judges and multi breed judges.

A multi breed judge is only as good as the mentor he or she had, or the seminar he or she attended.
Not many of them have access to these picking apart sessions that are going on in here.
Imagine how some of you, as bulldog lovers, have been confused. Imagine how some Afghan breeder who wants to add more brees to his list, feels when faced with a ring of bulldogs..

I know that some seminars leave the attendee nothing but more confused. I have been to a few of other breeds that were great and quite a few that were awful.

It is easy to tell a judge to go read a standard, but many breeders are guilty of not reading it themselves, how can they get mad at the judges who don't?

Just sayin...

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BCA Bulldog Standard Discussion Part IV Neck , Topline, Body

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Neck, Topline, Body

Neck
The neck should be short, very thick, deep and strong and well arched at the back.

Topline
There should be a slight fall in the back, close behind the shoulders (its lowest part), whence the spine should rise to the loins (the top of which should be higher than the top of the shoulders), thence, curving again more suddenly to the tail, forming an arch (a very dictintive feature of the breed), termed "roach back" or, more correctly, "wheel-back".

Body
The brisket and body should be very capacious, with full sides, well-rounded ribs and very deep from the shoulders down to its lowest part, where it joins the chest. It should be well let down between the shoulders and forelegs, giving the dog a broad, low, short-legged appearance.

Chest
The chest should be very broad, deep and full.

Underline
The body should be well ribbed up behind with the belly tucked up and not rotund.

Back & Loin
The back should be short and strong, very broad at the shoulders and comparatively narrow at the loins.

Tail
The tail may be either straight or "screwed" (but never curved or curly), and in any case must be short, hung low, with decided downward carriage, thick root and fine tip. If straight, the tail should be cylindrical and of uniform taper. If "screwed", the bends or kinks should be well defined, and they may be abrupt or even knotty, but no portion of the member should be elevated above the base of the root.

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The discussion keeps getting better. Please feel free to join in the discussion. Over the years these types of discussions have been some of the best ways of learning the standard. If you have a question or need clarification, there are several others who have the same need.

Harrold

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Neck, Topline, Body

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A couple observations. The neck is a very important part of the bulldog. Correct neck definitely adds strength and beauty to the dog. Lack of neck can really throw off the gait and if you are not careful it is easily passed on to the next generation.

When studying the topline pay particular attention to where the rise starts and where the highest point of the rise is on the dog. Correct toplines are one of the defining characterictics of our breed.

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Re: Neck, Topline, Body

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A beautifully arched neck takes my breath away on a nice dog in the ring. Few of us actually remember to hold the heads in such a way that the neck arch is visible, which may explain why few all-breed judges see the arch as correct. We're often so concerned with the judge seeing the jaw/layback, we forget the neck.

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Neck

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I like a dog to have a nicely defined arch to the neck...nice thick and muscular. A good neck will really accentuate strong shoulders and will allow for more reach in the front. Many short backed dogs are lacking in neck and this makes the dog look squatty and overly thick. I know that some feel that a neck makes the dog look longer but if the dogs shoulders are placed correctly it makes for a beautiful outline and a strong balanced looking dog.

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about necks

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remember, hisorically, the neck has always been described as "moderate" in length, not short. The BCA standard has it described as short, but this is not the case in any other standard.
Not sure why, but if you read some of the bulldog writers of the time, they worried about long necks being associated with dogs lacking substance. My take is that they changed it from "moderate" to "short" in America because they did not want the old type to come back into vogue, and there was a real battle back when the BCA standard was finalized, here and in England, to go back to the "old" type. Again, that is the way I read it. It might not be totally accurate, but there is no one around anymore to ask.
Anyway,
The key is the "well arched" aspect. You can have thick, powerful and moderate length, without being too long.
You DO NOT want a long neck with no arch. You see that sometimes.
And you never want too short. As long as you have arch, you are ok. I personally have never seen a neck that I thought was "too short" with an arch. Some are shorter than others, but as long as the arch is strong, I am ok with it.
Here are some examples of what I like in a neck;
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Standard Discussion part IV

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Neck
The neck should be short, very thick, deep and strong and well arched at the back.

"This is another of the attributes that seems to take a back seat. In my opinion it is one of the most crucial. To short of a neck takes away from so much of the Bulldogs confirmation. A nice Arched neck is such a big part of the top line. To short of a neck will effect the way the dog moves, the way the dogs front is constructed, etc."

Topline
There should be a slight fall in the back, close behind the shoulders (its lowest part), whence the spine should rise to the loins (the top of which should be higher than the top of the shoulders), thence, curving again more suddenly to the tail, forming an arch (a very dictintive feature of the breed), termed "roach back" or, more correctly, "wheel-back".

"A signature part of the Bulldogs confirmation and one of the least understood. We have gotten so used to the almost flat back that when a Dog walks into the ring with a nice "Roach Back" the judge thinks it is incorrect or over done. One of the most prolific faults is the high tail set which kills the topline. It is rare to see truly correct placement of the tail."

Body
The brisket and body should be very capacious, with full sides, well-rounded ribs and very deep from the shoulders down to its lowest part, where it joins the chest. It should be well let down between the shoulders and forelegs, giving the dog a broad, low, short-legged appearance.

"Capacious means roomy. A Bulldogs body should look roomy from all angles, the profile, over looking the back. Well-rounded ribs, I have found, are hard to find and hard to breed into your dogs once you lose it. Very few Breeds of Dogs have well rounded ribs. Grey Hounds and other site hounds have deep rib cages but there is no or very little spring of rib. My point being maybe this is why it is hard to keep well rounded ribs....Beautiful full Briskets are few and far between these days, when looking at the profile of a Bulldog you should see that Brisket jutting out in front of the fore legs. The body should have SUBSTANCE, not FAT.

Chest
The chest should be very broad, deep and full.

"Cant add a whole lot to this statement, very self explanatory."

Underline
The body should be well ribbed up behind with the belly tucked up and not rotund.

"Very important to many Dogs in the ring that lack tuck up, too fat. Ribs very import to having correct underline."

Back & Loin
The back should be short and strong, very broad at the shoulders and comparatively narrow at the loins.

"Broad at the Should and narrow at the LOIN, not the Butt of the dog. I am not saying you want a BIG, OUT Of BALANCE BUTTED dog but what the Standard says is NARROW AT THE LOINS."
Some of the problems we have are a direct result of trying to shorten the back through our Breeding practices. It can be to short and to long, this is very obvious when looking at the overall balance of the dog."

Tail
The tail may be either straight or "screwed" (but never curved or curly), and in any case must be short, hung low, with decided downward carriage, thick root and fine tip. If straight, the tail should be cylindrical and of uniform taper. If "screwed", the bends or kinks should be well defined, and they may be abrupt or even knotty, but no portion of the member should be elevated above the base of the root.

"The TAIL a subject of many heated debates a few years ago. When Natalie and I first started going to Dog Shows, Specialty Shows as observers I remember seeing this very nice dog with a spiked tail thats tip came down a few inches below his anus, just wagging away. We both said Nice Dog, but look at that tail in disgust...We being newbies were ignorant to the fact that Bulldogs were SUPPOSED to have tails just like the one we had seen, because none of the other Dogs we had seen HAD tails that even came close to this one...Although I have never had a puppy that didnt have a tail when he was born I have had many disappear with age...Definitely a direct result of our Breeding practices to shorten the Back. I think we have made improvement in tails over the last few years we still need alot of work in the area. We need to improve the length, looseness (being to tight) and definitely the placement of the tail."

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"Very important to many Dogs in the ring that lack tuck up, too fat. Ribs very import to having correct underline."

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some dogs who are not even fat lack tuck up. There is a correlation between an arched loin and proper tuck up. Breeds that require an arch in their loin typically are tucked up in the belly.

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I agree...

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Yes, I should have added that to my comment. Basically commenting on the large number of fat dogs in the ring.
W

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too fat..

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and this is a problem too.

Also disturning are the 6-12 month puppies that show up in the 60-70 pound range, and not talking too fat, just too darn big.

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Tuck up

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An extreme example would be a whippet.....the tuck up is so extreme and accentuates the rise in loin....bulls are in no way that extreme but you can at least envision that the tuck up draws attention to the rise and vice verse...I have found dogs lacking in tuck up, but having correct weight are generally flat and short in the topline and it really reflects in movement....very short steps without the ability to sweep in and out.

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How about this tail

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You should have seen the looks I have had when people saw this tail on my bitch and the comments. I put it down to ignorance, IMO this is a good tail.

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tail

by Elizabeth (Login hugobull)
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I love the shape and it looks as if it is set well.

I prefer a slightly shorter tail myself. This is another area of the standard that allows some lee-way in interpretation (length).

These two dogs represent my own personal preferences for length;
The red dog in the middle;
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Plus I am pretty adamant about the tail hanging low, in other words, I never want to see it while the dog is gaiting.

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E, those are great tails....

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I have had a couple of the nasty curly inverted ones. I would take a "pump handle" any time.

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Re: E, those are great tails....

by Elizabeth (Login hugobull)
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we have some that are not great too, although I don't have to doctor any of them and I've never had to have an amputaion. We have outcrossed for better tails, hopefully they will start to breed true.
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NIce examples Elizabeth

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I do agree my bitches tail ideally could be a bit shorter

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how long ebfore making a judgement call

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on a puppies tail since most with any length of tail carry them up and out for balance as pups.
is there a gestimated time line where one can say..well that tail is going to stay up in the air and never be carried downwards?

Rhiann @ Butlerbullz

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Tails

by (Login Jaxxonsmom)
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I am a huge fan of having a nice correct tail

I have always used 4" as a guidline. I appreciate the tail on your bitch as it is very straight and it looks carried well. Like Elizabeth I cant stand a long tail carried high though....it throws the whole look of the dog right off and they end up looking goofy. A nice tightly carried tail really is stunning on a nice dog

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Ch Bentley Deacon BOB win

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We just wanted to share Bentley's win and also show how much he has grown into a beautiful boy. Bentley turned 3 October 13th!! Thank you Kevin and Sandra Riley for such a special boy!!
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congrats on the win

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He is looking awesome...and such a lovely picture too!

You guys coming to nationals?

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Re: congrats on the win

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No Nationals this year we had a wedding to pay for:):)we miss you! good luck to you!
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Congratulations!

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Great picture!

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congratulations

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congrats and thank you for showing the puppy beside the winning dog. Nice to see how they grow up.

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Lookin Good

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I had to look at this twice. Didn't see the gog the first time only the handler!!

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Congrats

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He looks lovely

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Nice boy!

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Congrats on his BOB win.

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WTG!!! Holly and Jeremy!

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So happy for you both. The picture turned out quite nice too!

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Re: Ch Bentley Deacon BOB win

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Congratulations...VERY nice!

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Congratulations Holly!

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Great picture of you two!

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Congrats ...!!!

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Holly that is awesome !!! He has come a long way....I'm very happy for you.

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ok Florida Bulldoggers I need some help

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i am trying to locate a good Bulldog vet for XXXX near CoralSprings for a c-section on a dog who is due any day now..is in probably 24-48 hours.

Email me with any info please XXXX
Thanks

Rhiann @ Butlerbullz

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What is your email?????????????

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Email addy?????????

Andy

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YGM

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,

Andy

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Outta my neck of the woods - but Andy should know a good contact for ya!

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always glad to lend a hand to help rescue....let me know if you need anything else

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thanks everyone

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i will keep ya posted as to how it goes

Rhiann @ Butlerbullz

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update: 2 pups- doing ok but mom is not doing well

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sounds like she is hemorrhaging and they are opening her back up..fingers crosed all goes well. Worse case scenario..anyone have a bitch who just weaned pups to send if they loose momma?
I could also book a flight and fly the two back to Cali and raise but thats alot..so closer is better, again worse case scenario.
And bottle feeding two wont be all that bad..
thanks again Andy and Jenn

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Fingers crossed for you

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ygm

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Nationals Video info..

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Superb quality, fully edited video DVDs will be offered for sale. Every dog in every class of every event will be shown on-screen with their AKC registered name, sire and dam! Here is the website for PRE-ORDERS: http://showdogvideopros.com/Bulldog.html

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They will also post the exact same clips on YouTube (10 minute limit) for you at NO CHARGE.

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Our Poet babies

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Rod i dont have your email and thought you would like to see these..The kids are 9 weeks old today..

red boy
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fawn boy

Gracie...she will be staying..

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red

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That red boy is perfect..

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Love your pick, Gracie is very nice

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as are the boys, Man fawn boy has HUGE feet, would like to see him when he grows in to them.

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Lovely babies especially the fawn boy

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congrats again

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like your pick.
Also like the fawn boy as well.

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"Gracie"

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Almost a spitting image of her dad. She should be a fun one in the ring.. I hope she continues to turn out for you. When are you gluing ears?

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REALLY??

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Thank you...All we can do is live in Hope that our keepers turn out...

here I was thinking she looked a lot like her grandmother Hope..That would be a very good thing in my book if she looks like her da..

...Gluing ears...well The red boys went back on his own...Gracie can hold hers back and the fawn boys well....his are just huge..Ill probably start gluing tomorrow...I like to let them get a crease started before i glue...

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good looking puppies n/m

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n/m

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Looking Good!

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Congrats on the babies...

Laurie

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LOVELY!!

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I absolutely LOVE what you have out of POET!! INCREDIBLE!!

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Congrats

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on your babies. Your keeper is eye catching. Best of luck with them all!

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Pretty PUps!

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Good luck with your keeper!

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nice babies

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love the color

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Re: Our Poet babies

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nice bod on Gracie, best wishes for her show career!! she's very sweet!!

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A brag for "Angel" in Salem, OR yesterday : )

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Hi Everyone,
Angel had a great day in Salem yesterday:
Sunday November 8, 2009
Judge Ms Angela J Porpora
WD (Bred-By Class), BOW and BOB
Crazy-Love's Constantine Angelus
Ch. Silverspoon's Nothing Personal x Wilma's Corky Love
Bred and Owned by Sandra Burkett
I'll post the pic when I get it.
Very exciting for us!!
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huge congrats

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he is a nice looking boy!!

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Re: A brag for "Angel" in Salem, OR yesterday : )

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Congratulations!!! Nice win!

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Congratulations Sandy! It was great

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seeing you guys this weekend.
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Thanks everyone! We're having fun : )

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Hope to see you again soon !

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Congrats!

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on your win. Very nice

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Congrats!

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on your win. Very nice

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Congrats !!

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On your win!

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Philadelphia this weekend

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does anyone know the entry numbers and times for the show on Saturday?

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The sweeps start at 11am but not sure of the numbers . Very low I am old

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Re: Philadelphia this weekend

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Pauline, I don't think you're that old...........lmao

Look at what you wrote.....heehee

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Re: Philadelphia this weekend

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ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!

I will never pass that GED !!!!!!

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Re: Philadelphia this weekend

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Hahahahaha, now I saw your name is "auline".........You are cracking me up....

Yes you will

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Yes, you will!!!

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Here is Sat and Sunday

by Lorraine (Login kar_isma1)
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Sat:
11 sweeps: 7-4 Nikki Bermea
33 regular: 13-16 (3-1) Ruth Williams
Sunday
5 sweeps: 3-2 (Sorry...don't remember judge)
25 regular: 11-11 (2-1) Mrs Cozart

I was expecting a much larger entry honestly but it gives my girl Kimora 4 different times in the ring so maybe she will slow the "Miss Fidget Feet" routine in the ring...she is good now in pet stores and other places...we'll see about the ring....at least I know she will move nicely on a loose lead....Oh dear...now that I said that I have damned myself to having her pull me around the ring!! LOL Love her to pieces!

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what time on saturday?

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I replied before sweeps at 11am and then classes at 11:30am on Saturday.

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thanks auline!! n/m

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Re: thanks auline!! n/m

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I will never get things right on my GED for sure now .......since I cant even spell my name .....LOL

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Nationals health clinic

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Link to information on the clinic and links to the forms can be found here;

http://bcahealth.homestead.com

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I am thrilled to see the health clinic at Nationals...and at such a reasonable cost. I hope it is well attended. THANKS!

Mary and Otto, Maisy & Apple
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clinic attendance

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for the most part has been ok, with the exception of the Washington national where we only had one participant (me) for the cardiologist.

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BCA Standard Discussion Part III HEAD

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HEAD

Eyes & Eyelids
The eyes seen from the front should be situated low down in the skull, as far from the ears as possible, and their corners should be in a straight line at right angles with the stop. They should be quite in front of the head, as wide apart as possible, provided their outer corners are within the outline of the cheeks when viewed from the front. They should be quite round in form, of moderate size, neither sunken or bulging, and in color should be very dark. The lids should cover the white of the eyeball, when the dog is looking directly forward, and the lid should show no "haw".

Ears
The ears should be set hight on the head, the front inner edge of each ear joining the outline of the skull at the top back corner of the skull, so as to place them as wide apart, and as high, and as far from the eyes as possible. In size they should be small and thin. The shape termed "rose ear" is the most desirable. The rose ear folds inward at its lower back edge, the upper front edge curving over, outward and backward, showing part of the inside of the burr. (The ears should not be carried erect or prick-eared or buttoned and should never be cropped.)

Skull
The skull should be very large, and in circumference, in front of the ears, should be measured at least the height of the dog at the shoulders. Viewed from the front, it should appear very high from the corner of the lower jaw to the apex of the skull, and also very broad and square. Viewed at the side, the head should appear very high, and very short form the point of the nose to the occiput. The forehead should be flat (not rounded or domed) neither too prominent nor over hanging the face.

Cheeks
The cheeks should be well rounded, protruding sideways and outward beyond the eyes.

Stop
The temples or frontal bones should be very well defined, broad, square and high, causing a hollow or groove between the eyes. This indentation, or stop, should be both broad and deep and extend up the middle of the forehead, dividing the head vertically, being traceable to the top of the skull.

Face & Muzzle
The face, measured from the front of the cheekbone to the tip of the nose, should be extremely short, the muzzle being very short, broad, turned upward and very deep from the corner of the eye to the corner of the mouth.

Nose
The nose should be large, broad and black, its tip set back deeply between the eyes. The distance from the bottom of the stop, between the eyes, to the tip of the nose should be as short as possible and not exceed the length from the tip of the nose to the edge of the underlip. The nostrils should be wide, large and black, with a well defined line between them. Any nose other than black is objectionable and a brown or liver-colored nose shall disqualify.

Lips
The chops or "flews" should be thick, broad, pendant and very deep, completely overhanging the lower jaw at each side. They join the underlip in front and almost or quite cover the teeth, which should be scarcely noticeable, when the mouth is closed.

Bite-Jaws
The jaws should be massive, very broad, square and "undershoot", the lower jaw protruding considerbly in front of the upper jaw and turning up.

Teeth
The teeth should be large and strong, with the canine teeth or tusks wide apart, and the six small teeth in front, between the canines, in an even, level row.

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I hope many of the readers will pitch in with their comments about the correct head. In my opinion its an area that overall we need more eduation and study on. From ringside conversations, I can remember several times over the past few years where the large size of a head has been mistaken for a really good bulldogs head.....large does not necessarily mean correct.

I look forward to the continued discussion.

Harrold

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Nose

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Nose
The nose should be large, broad and black, its tip set back deeply between the eyes. The distance from the bottom of the stop, between the eyes, to the tip of the nose should be as short as possible and not exceed the length from the tip of the nose to the edge of the underlip. The nostrils should be wide, large and black, with a well defined line between them. Any nose other than black is objectionable and a brown or liver-colored nose shall disqualify.

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One of the things I've noticed more this past year than I did the previous couple years is pinched tight nostrils and the tip of the nose not being tipped back as much as it should be. For a short faced breed, I think wide open nostrils is really important.

Harrold
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One of the things I've noticed more this past year than I did the previous couple years is pinched tight nostrils and the tip of the nose not being tipped back as much as it should be. For a short faced breed, I think wide open nostrils is really important.

Harrold

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Pinched nostrils have always been a problem.
The tip of the nose "laying back" is also elusive. Some dogs are very strong in this area, others not so much.
e

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head

by (Login hugobull)
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visualizing the shape first helps so much in understanding the breed. Too many people concentrate on each feature first before understanding the basic shape.
From the side, here is the shape;
[linked image]

From the front;
[linked image]

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head

by (Login hugobull)
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If you don't have the basic shape, it is pointless to debate the particulars.

What good is a pretty jaw if the forehead is domed or "shelfy"?
Just as an example.

I see lots of judges nit pick a very good dog out of the ribbons, only to award a dog that is just average.

If a dog has a great head shape, then you can debate the finer features such as nose placement, eye shape, jaw width, ears, etc...
But do not ever admire a dog who does not have the basics down over a dog that has just one singular feature going for him.

e

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oops

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But do not ever admire a dog who does not have the basics down over a dog that has just one singular feature going for him.

e

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meant to say;

Do not ever admire a dog who does not have the basics down over a great dog that has a flaw or fault or two.
Sorry.
e

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SO

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HERE IS WHERE I AM OFTEN CONFUSED...
NOW WHAT I INVISON AS A CORRECT HEAD IS ONE THAT IS SIMILAR TO THE PICS YOU ARE SHOWING. TO ME THIS A BRICK SHAPED HEAD- CORRECT LAYBACK ETC.

BUT WHEN I READ THIS PORTION:
Face & Muzzle
The face, measured from the front of the cheekbone to the tip of the nose, should be extremely short, the muzzle being very short, broad, turned upward and very deep from the corner of the eye to the corner of the mouth.

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I READ: THE WORDS SHORT- EXTRMELY SHORT FROM CHEEKBONE TO TIP OF NOSE THEN MUZZLE SHORT AS WELL...IF DISTANCE WERE AS SHORT AS IT READS, WOULDNT THAT BE SHORT FACED..OR DOES THIS GO BACK TO BEING BALANCED...

WHEN I SEE THOSE PICS..I THINK OF THE MUZZLE NOT BEING SHORT, NOR DO I SEE THE DISTANCE FROM THE CHEEKBONE TO THE TIP OF THE NOSE BEING ALL THAT SHORT EITHER..

Rhiann @ Butlerbullz

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BUT WHEN I READ THIS PORTION:
Face & Muzzle
The face, measured from the front of the cheekbone to the tip of the nose, should be extremely short, the muzzle being very short, broad, turned upward and very deep from the corner of the eye to the corner of the mouth.

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I READ: THE WORDS SHORT- EXTRMELY SHORT FROM CHEEKBONE TO TIP OF NOSE THEN MUZZLE SHORT AS WELL...IF DISTANCE WERE AS SHORT AS IT READS, WOULDNT THAT BE SHORT FACED..OR DOES THIS GO BACK TO BEING BALANCED...

WHEN I SEE THOSE PICS..I THINK OF THE MUZZLE NOT BEING SHORT, NOR DO I SEE THE DISTANCE FROM THE CHEEKBONE TO THE TIP OF THE NOSE BEING ALL THAT SHORT EITHER..
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Try to apply this same sentence to, say, a boxer.
"The face, measured from the front of the cheekbone to the tip of the nose, should be extremely short"
If that measuement was not so short, you would get a nosey dog.

The muzzle being short is a balance issue, but note this.."very deep from the corner of the eye to the corner of the mouth". If the dog's muzzle is too short, the corner of the mouth would be in front of the corner of the eye.
Compare these two. Trace a line from the corner of the eye to the corner of the mouth. On one dog, the muzzle is a proper length, the other it is short, the line from the corner of the eye has to go forward to reach the corner of the mouth.
[linked image]

This is a guide I use for "too short" in muzzle. It usually works out, sometimes there are exceptions. Shortness in muzzle is a matter of opinion. Some people are terribly turned off by it, many people have become soo used to it that it seems normal to them. But the standard references "very deep from corner of the eye to corner of the mouth" "Deep" cannot be measured sideways, in my opinion.
e

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I understand what your saying, I think people

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mix words when they say a dog is short faced they should be saying lacking in lenght of lower jaw. From what i have noticed this his what they are talking about vs the lenght of face

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not necessarily

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I have heard people complain that Marsha's muzzle was too short and she was not lacking in jaw at all.
e

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..and while I wish she had a little more length, she still falls within my own persoanl limits for "ok" in muzzle length.
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I would not say she is lacking in lower jaw at all

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I think her head is very balanced. God I think many stud dog owners would be happy with 1/2 her jaw and head on one of their dogs. She was beautiful. I hope your Marsha Clone turns out as nice as Marsha

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This wee darling has the ideal layback IMO

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A little hard to see in this pic but its the best pic I have access to at the moment.

[IMG] [linked image]

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Re: This wee darling has the ideal layback IMO

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I have no problem seeing it. Lovely.

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thank you, very helpful

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that helped.

Rhiann @ Butlerbullz

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excellent drawings

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I am seeing quite a few heads in the ring lately that I would describe as "dish-faced". In stead of getting the straight line from forehead-tip of nose-jaw the profile appears curved with the nose set back out of line.

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also--

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in addition to "dish-faced" I am seeing a loss of angle. Picking up the jaw so the dog is looking at the sky is not what is meant by a 45 degree angle. Faces are looking straighter--foreheads are losing slope (wish I could draw to illustrate my meaning)

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layback

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thank you for sharing the pictures of layback! I see so many dogs with the "shelf" these days. I really don't think a lot of people understand what layback is and what it should look like.

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I Agree, alot of folks have a hard time with layback!

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The examples Elizabeth uses show the layback as it should be from tip of the jaw to top(back) of the skull.
To accomplish this you need LENGTH and SWEEP OF UNDERJAW...We have gotten so used to this fault that when you see a correct layback it looks odd. Once you have the true picture of Correct Layback in your mind you will have a very difficult time being able to appreciate what others consider good or great heads...
A good way to see and compare layback is when a judge has the class face out, move to where you can see the profile veiw where you get a great view of the classes head profiles one next to the other.

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Also...

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When you are in front of your dog holding its head, dont cover his muzzle, or anypart of the profile view of the head with your hand position. Unless your hiding something! lol

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So True,...Arlene

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I see soooo many "shelfy headed" bulldogs. And then hear these people brag about what a great head their bulldog has. I like to see a nice clean layback where there isn't that "road bump" above the eyes. It is one of the things that really is one of my peeves. And this is important as I think the bulldog head is one thing that sets this breed apart.

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Do you have a photo of what you mean by "shelf" ?

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thank you

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Re: BCA Standard Discussion Part III HEAD

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These discussions are awesome, thank you guys so much!

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Shelf head and flat face

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this is shelfy..

by Elizabeth (Login hugobull)
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there are worse examples.. but this gives an idea..
[linked image]

compare with a better profile;
[linked image]

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ah, so kind of like a flat head?

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thank you - the pics definately help

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Re: ah, so kind of like a flat head?

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Shelfy is what I have been calling "two planed"

Perserverance isn't a long race.
It's a series of short races,
ran one after the other.

-In memory of Casper

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shelfy..two planed..

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all the same. Either way, not good, but very common.

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Re: ah, so kind of like a flat head?

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"flat" is a positive trait...it is the degree that the head "lays back" that we are concerned with. The forehead has to be flat, but the breed is "up faced".. not perpendicular..
e

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also down-faced

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the second picture, the dog is also down-faced or "froggy", more like a frenchy

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Re: this is shelfy..

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Here is another one. (datestamp should be 2006)

[linked image]

Perserverance isn't a long race.
It's a series of short races,
ran one after the other.

-In memory of Casper

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and just so ya know ;)

by (Login DonandKim)
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That was Winston, our first Bulldog. Everyone has to start somewhere, and we learned alot together. He is now our "Coach Bully",or "Uncle Winston". He has no problem showing off his "unique" conformation.

Perserverance isn't a long race.
It's a series of short races,
ran one after the other.

-In memory of Casper

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Re: and just so ya know ;)

by (Login JenniferJoseph)
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Not shelfy, he is dishy. His nose falls below the plane created by the tip of jaw and the forhead.

We are seeing more of this in the ring, not a good thing.

But everyone needs a favorite uncle at home.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 7:43 PM

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Re: and just so ya know ;)

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I say shelfy in the forehead, dishy in the muzzle.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 5:36 AM

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and truthfully,

by Elizabeth (Login hugobull)
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really, not so dishy in the muzzle, he just does not have enough chop to fill the space.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 7:48 AM

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That is what i hear people say is short faced

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so if the head structure was better and the dog had more length of jaw would it be so much of a shelf?

I dont know if i have seen a dog with a shelf and also have lenght & turn up of jaw.

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Re: That is what i hear people say is short faced

by (Login hugobull)
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so if the head structure was better and the dog had more length of jaw would it be so much of a shelf?

I dont know if i have seen a dog with a shelf and also have lenght & turn up of jaw.

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A dog absolutely CAN have a shelfy forehead and a good muzzle and jaw at the same time. As a a matter of fact, many of them do and since the muzzle is ok, people forgive the shelfy (not flat) foreheads.

On the other hand, some people get glamorized by flat foreheads and forgive a little length in jaw.

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Re: Shelf head and flat face

by (Login hugobull)
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What about the head that ran into the brick wall. If the judge uses the hand flat on the face they have a level line but the angle of the head is completely wrong. I just don't get the whole lay the hand on the head thing. To me any judge should be able to see a flat plain if they look at the head profile.

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I always tell people forget about the bulldog looking as if he ran into a wall thing. A perpendicular profile is so wrong in so many ways, it lacks jaw length and turn up, the nose is straight up and down and the forehead has no length, height or layback (which is roughly 45 degrees).
I don't get the hands on the head either. You can see it. I think it makes judges look silly.
e

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Re: Shelf head and flat face

by (Login JenniferJoseph)
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Regarding angle of layback,

I was once told, and by whom I cannot recall, that a bulldog should always be "up-faced"

That is, all the features of the head are visible easily from above or the front and inclined upwards.

For example, a crocodile is up-faced, if even a few inches of it's skull are abve the water line, it's entire face is visible.

A human, by contrast is as downfaced as an animal gets.

So a bulldog is up-faced, a pug or frenchie or affenspinscher are all much more down-faced.

To be all on the right plane a dog needs to have sufficient lift and tip of muzzle and turn of jaw to bring all those features up to the proper plane. And it takes depth of skull and sufficient length of muzzle and jaw to do that. Too short is the enemy of up.

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Re: Shelf head and flat face

by (Login hugobull)
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To be all on the right plane a dog needs to have sufficient lift and tip of muzzle and turn of jaw to bring all those features up to the proper plane. And it takes depth of skull and sufficient length of muzzle and jaw to do that. Too short is the enemy of up.

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It also has to have a long, flat forehad. I have seen up-turned muzzles finish with shelfy or apple headed foreheads.

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Re: Shelf head and flat face

by (Login JenniferJoseph)
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Agreed

Now if we could get all-rounders to understand that.....

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MSN in Vegas, a dumb idea and here's why

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http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/11/08/more-forced-spay-neuter-delusional-thinking-ad-naseum/

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 9:44 PM

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More info on Las Vegas Proposed Mandatory S/N

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The full text of this alert can be found on our website at:http://www.akc.org/news/index.cfm?article_id=4005

The committee reviewing the proposed mandatory spay/neuter ordinance chose to send it back to the full city council without a recommendation. The measure will be heard at the November 18th city council meeting. Concerned fanciers and responsible dog owners and breeders need to attend this meeting to ensure that your voices are heard!

Las Vegas City Council Meeting

Wednesday, November 18th

9am

City Council Chambers

400 Stewart Avenue
Las Vegas, NV 89101

If you are unable to attend the meeting, please email the council members and let them know about your concerns.

Mayor Oscar B. Goodman Ogoodman@lasvegasnevada.gov

Councilwoman Lois Tarkanian LTarkanian@lasvegasnevada.gov

Councilman Steve Wolfson SWolfson@lasvegasnevada.gov

Mayor Pro Tem Gary Reese GReese@lasvegasnevada.gov

Councilman Stavros S. Anthony SAnthony@lasvegasnevada.gov

Councilman Steven D. Ross SRoss@lasvegasnevada.gov

Councilman Ricki Y. Barlow RBarlow@lasvegasnevada.gov

Silver State Kennel Club Legislative Liaison Ken Sondej (4winds@viawest.net) is coordinating speakers for the meeting. You can also contact the AKC Government Relations Department at doglaw@akc.org for additional information. Thank you for your attention to this important issue.

Provisions of the Ordinance

All dogs and cats over the age of 4 months must be spayed or neutered unless the owner qualifies for one of the following exemptions:
holds a valid dog fancier, cat fancier permit, breeder permit or professional animal handler permit
the dog is used by a law enforcement agency as a law enforcement dog
the dog is used by a search and rescue agency for search and rescue activities
Please note that many search and rescue dogs are privately owned and would not be exempt under the current proposal
The dog is a service animal such as a guide animal, hearing animal, assistance animal, seizure alert animal or social/therapy animal
The dog is being used by a pound, shelter, humane society or similar organization, whether public or private, the principal purpose of which is securing the adoption of dogs or cats, provided that such organization has a policy and rules requiring the spaying or neutering of all dogs and cats placed for adoption
All puppies or kittens born to dogs and cats that have not been spayed/neutered as required will be forfeited and may be given to the local shelter for adoption
This is a particularly puzzling provision if the goal is to reduce the number of animals in the shelter. Why would the city confiscate puppies and kittens who would likely find good homes without their interference? A fine would be understandable, but confiscation is unreasonable.
Fines for violation
$250 for a first offense
$500 for a second offense
$1000 for a third offense
These fines are outrageously high and will likely force some owners to surrender their pets
The fine is reduced by 80% if the animal is sterilized within 30 days, however as these surgeries themselves cost hundreds of dollars, that does not help individuals who cannot afford the fines
Impounded dogs or cats that are intact, but whose owners do not qualify for one of the above exemptions must be sterilized prior to release
The current wording of this section seems to mandate that animal control perform the sterilization, and would deny owners the ability to take the animal to a veterinarian of their own choosing
Provides that impounded animals be kept for only 72 hours
Three days is a short time frame, especially as it is not specified that these are business days. A family on vacation for a long weekend may return home to find their pet has been impounded and adopted out to someone else
Requires that impounded animals be microchipped and that the owner pay for the microchipping prior to release
This only adds to the fees owners are required to pay for reclaiming their animal
No fee for this service is specified
The ordinance does not require the microchip be enrolled with a national registry. The implantation of the chip does not help recover the animal, only enrollment with a national registry will provide the owners contact information
Pet Stores are required to provide the following information to Department of Detention and Enforcement
The name and residence address of the buyer
The address of the location where the dog or cat will reside, if not the same as the buyers address
The breed and approximate age
A description, including principal colors
Failure to provide this information shall be grounds for non-renewal of, or disciplinary action against, a business license
It is unreasonable to require a business to violate their customers privacy in this manner
Since many shoppers may not reside within the city, it will create burdensome paperwork that in many cases will be useless
May cause shoppers to choose pet stores that are not within the Las Vegas City limits, costing those stores business
Will increase costs for stores when they have to sterilize any animals that may be over 4 months of age
May in fact deter these stores from selling older animals

AKC Government Relations

8051 Arco Corporate Drive, Suite 100

Raleigh, NC 27617

919-816-3720

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Havok @ 8 months...

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he is coming along well, maybe ready for the ring in a few more months. he's a sweetie pie!

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Suzie, Fabulous Phoenix & Havok

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 9:36 PM

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now

by sue (Login strictlyred)
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he is ready now..
handsome guy

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Thanks Sue...

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We're still working on that darn ear! It stays back for a while then just when I think we're home free it falls forward again! I'm hoping by the time Spring rolls around it will just stay in place! How is Charlie doing? Any more shows? Send me new pix when you get a chance, I was thinking of you guys!
I love the pic of your 3 babies! Adorable!

Suzie, Fabulous Phoenix & Havok

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Best of luck with him

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He looks like he wants to please...always a good thing

http://www.eviesbulldogs.com

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 5:00 PM

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Good Luck

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with your boy!!

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 5:19 PM

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Good Luck

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with your boy!!

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 5:19 PM

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Wine Country Congrats Doris & Sarge

by Bufords Bulldogs (Login lindemoen)
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Congrats on Group 2 yesterday & Group 1 today wow that is just wonderful. Conrats to all that were there.
Kim & Burt

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Yes, BIG congrats! Sarge was looking fabulous!

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Nice seeing you all there, we had a lot of fun!
Suzie & Frank

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Big congrats to Doris

by Rod (Login rivercitybulldog)
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Very happy news.

http://www.rivercitybulldog.com

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 7:18 AM

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A Huge Congratulations!

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Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 6:27 PM

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Congrats!

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http://www.eviesbulldogs.com

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 4:57 PM

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Congrats!

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Very nice Wins!

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Class entry question

by Tammy (Login canuckbulldog)
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Question from a newbie

My bulldog Teela turned 1 in September of this year. When entering confirmation it has a 12-18 month category. Is this still considered a puppy? Should I bother with that class or just go open dog from now on?

Thanks!
Tammy

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 6:06 PM

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Re: Class entry question

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12-18 is not considered a puppy for the purposes of Best Puppy, etc. It does give the judge the knowledge that this is not a mature dog, so it can help if Teela is less than mature at this point. There are some dogs that will do fine in open, but I like the 12-18 class. Good luck!

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I base my decision on the maturity of the dog......

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if my dog is still puppiesh-meaning appearance or behavior I keep them in their age class so the judge understands this is still a young dog. Some judges do not like a dog misbehaving in open especially on the ramp when they are running their hands over the dog. My boy Butkus is 3 yrs old and still jumps up and plays around sometimes like a puppy-but unfortunately I have to put him in open or bred by depending on who's showing him and hope the judge has a sense of humor. LOL
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To those who understand no explanation is needed. To those who don't no explanation is possible.

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My understanding is

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Anything under 18 months is puppy dog/bitch has been my understanding and what I have seen in the show catalogs.

Will you be coming to Nationals? Hope to see you here!!

Lisa

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 5:07 AM

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RE: My understanding is

by (Login Inspirabull)
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My husband just called and corrected me. I AM WRONG!!

so sorry for the misinformation!!

Lisa

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12-18

by (Login hugobull)
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12-18 is a JUNIOR class, not a puppy class and is not eligable for Best Puppy, but is for Best in Sweepstakes.

12-18 is a favorite class of mine and is often very competative at specialties.

e

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We had extensive debate about that very question

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,,,with our co-owners, and several others. They kept saying move her up to Open, as she would do well there. We having watched her every day of her show career, were abit kennel blind in the other direction, thinking she wasn't there yet. The debate ended when we entered her in 12-18 one day at a specialty, and Open on the next(she was 13 months old, I think). She placed 2nd in 12-18 and RWB in Open. Needless to say, we kept her in Open, and she got all her points in Open.

Perserverance isn't a long race.
It's a series of short races,
ran one after the other.

-In memory of Casper

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Old Pedigree Elizabeth

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I am looking at old Pedigree could you email me a pic of Hugabulls Seabright
Thanks Kim

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 5:39 PM

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Forgot email

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kimstvanimals@aol.com

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 5:50 PM

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pedigree

by (Login hugobull)
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Hi Kim
My email is broken and I cannot send attachments. If you have spare time, find the pedigree for Hug-O-Bull's Seabright Smasher or Hug-O-Bull's Seabright Star (littermates) on my website.
http://www.milamshugobull.com
Enter the site
Go to "In memory"
Scroll down 9 dogs to "Karen"
click the word "more" that you will see in her box, that will send you to the pedigree.
Sorry I couldn't do that privately.
e

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Re: pedigree

by (Login hugobull)
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and if you are looking for Seabright Smasher, scroll down the "in memory page" further and you will find a picture of him

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 8:36 AM

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Thanks

by Bufords Bulldogs (Login lindemoen)
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Ok thanks thats the one I wanted to see Seabright Smasher.

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 10:17 AM

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Upcoming show

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I know everyone is getting ready for Nationals and there may not be a lot of interest in this right now but I plan to post some reminders anyway from now until the deadline of the Jackson, MS shows that will be held around the second week in December. This year there is going to be a supported Bulldog entry with lots of nice prizes. There will also be Bulldog hospitality thanks to Michelle Colon. I can quickly count 18 bitches that are suppose to be there and I know there are surely more that I don't know about. It would be great if this show could be built up to what it used to be, MAJORS, something we all NEED!! It is a four day show in a great location. There are ample vendors who offer Christmas discounts. Lots of people buy their fleece dog beds because they can get them at a great price at this show. There are plenty of great places to do Christmas shopping from a Bass Pro Shop, to North Park Mall, to Flowood's terrific shopping. Lots of hotels, good food and southern hospitality. Please come if you can. As the deadline nears, I will continue to post reminders.

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THERE'S MORE!!!!

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On Saturday, there will be a seminar on Judging Bulldogs and Frenchies conducted by Wayne Brower and Luis Sosa.

For pre-registration fee/details visit www.msstatekc.org
or contact Roxanne Hilsman at hilsman@bellsouth.net or 601-366-5171. Pre-Registration Deadline: December 1, 2009.

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Count Nationals

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Does any one no breakdown dogs bitches BB etc Kim

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 2:28 PM

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Some pictures Rhiann took of Spanky last weekend (pic overload)

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Michelle, Helen, Penny, Spanky and Faye pup

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Nice Boy

by Bufords Bulldogs (Login lindemoen)
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Who is Sire & Dam how old is your boy?

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His sire is Hurricane in the Nic of Time...

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the dam is DKs raising Helen. He's 2 1/2 years old.

Michelle, Helen, Penny, Spanky and Faye pup

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Oh My

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I just love his sister he looked like someone I knew. I know Marcels Bloodlines& alsoyour boy has Edwards in him & I had that blood line many years ago. He sure is a beautiful dog but if I remember this line matured slowly. I know Amys girl took her time. This was a very nice breeding. Good Luck woth your boy hope I can make it to Palmsprings. Kim

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He is a late bloomer..

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but I'm hoping I can get him to shows in the next year. It has been tough this year, but I know he is a nice boy and I would love to see what he can do in the ring.

Michelle, Helen, Penny, Spanky and Faye pup

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looking Good!

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Would love to have the opportunity to see him in person. Get that boy in the ring! Lottie

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I'm taking him to Palm Springs...

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in January.

Michelle, Helen, Penny, Spanky and Faye pup

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Very nice

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I like him a lot

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He's awesome

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I love this boy

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great pictures, but nothing like seeing him in person and his wonderful personality. Hopefully Lottie will have the opportunity to see him in person.

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I love Spanky

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As great as those pics are, they don't do him justice. I love Spanks!!

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One of Spnky's best qualities is his personality...

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and you can't show that in pictures. I think the straight on shot shows his personality better than the rest.

Michelle, Helen, Penny, Spanky and Faye pup

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Beautiful! My kind of guy!

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Suzie, Fabulous Phoenix & Havok

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Handsome boy!

by Rod (Login rivercitybulldog)
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Good luck at the shows...

http://www.rivercitybulldog.com

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beautiful boy

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Nice boy

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Looks like a happy fellow~

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Close up pics of newborn pup..not for sale

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http://www.network54.com/Forum/42436/message/1257659012/Newborn+puppy+close+up+pics...not+for+sale

http://jamlerbulldogs.spaces.live.com/default.aspx

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Question about Nationals

by Heather (Login hezzbullies)
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I have only been showing for 2 yrs, I think I have all the regular show info down pat now but I am not so sure about the Nationals.

Do you have to be invited to the Nationals? Can non champions and champions be entered? What is the purpose of the show? Is it an AKC event? How do they seperate so many dogs and get them all judged in a timely fashion?

Thanks~Heather

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Nationals

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are just like a regular show or a specialty show. Bulldogs only. Classes are the same as you would see at an all-breed show.

Class dogs show in their respective classes. Champions compete against each other for Best of Breed as well as WD and WB. They also have Veteran classes that you don't normally see at an all-breed show.

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sone answers..

by Elizabeth (Login hugobull)
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"Do you have to be invited to the Nationals?"

No, it is open to any dog that would qualify for any AKC dog show.

"Can non champions and champions be entered?"

Just like you see "Yourhometown Kennel Club", or the "Bulldog Club of Wherever You are From", the BCA (Bulldog Club of America) gets to have a show too (AKC allows each club two point shows a year).. BCA chooses to have one and this show rotates through the different Divisions of the BCA each year. Each area then designates a host club and then the hosting Division gets a show too, so there are actually three different specialties over the course of "National Week" or "Nationals" or as some people prefer, "National"
Each show works just like any other, except typically there are three judges, one for dogs, one for bitches and one for non-regular and intersex classes. Some smaller Divisions go for two judges, not three.

"What is the purpose of the show? Is it an AKC event? How do they seperate so many dogs and get them all judged in a timely fashion?"

Purpose.. depends on who you ask, as far of "order of importance".. For some it is a week long convention. For others, it is a chance for more majors, for some, it is a week long party. For everyone, it is a celebration of our breed. Plus the annual councilors meeting and several committee meetings are held, along with educational seminars. There is the annual banquet honoring Hall of Fame inductees, award winning dogs from the National show, and they announce judges and location of the following years National.

There are two rings running simultaniously, dogs in one and bitches in another. National often runs over 3 days (sweeps, obedience one day, class dogs/bitches and Jr Showmanship the next day and the Best of Breed and non regular classes the last day.
The local host club gets the day after National and then the Division. Some times the local show and Division shows go two days, but very often it all gets wrapped up Saturday to give folks Sunday as a travel day. Every year is slightly different.

The show is always held in the hotel we stay in.

e

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also

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Non regular classes, example, brood bitch and stud dog or Brace gets judged after Best of Breed. Best Puppy gets judged after each Best of Breed too.
Veterans typically show after the classes are done and before Best of Breed.

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Week Long Party

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People Party at this event?

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Re: Week Long Party

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Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 1:06 PM

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LMAO

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I had no idea.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 1:08 PM

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REmember it is not just a week long party!

by (Login Inspirabull)
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For some it is a week long party. For others it is a week long FAMILY REUNION, meetings, wonderful educational classes, INCREDIBLE Bulldogs that are in the top 50 will be there but, sometimes not all can make it.

But for you who are able to.........HAVE FUN!!!

I have 3 children and a litter of puppies. For me, I will like through y'all!!

Viva la 70's!!

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 5:27 AM

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THe like should be live!

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nm

Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 5:28 AM

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Is your National held at the same place every year

by Louise Brinsden (Login brinsdenbulldogs)
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and at the same time? I would love to travel and watch your National obviously I will miss this year but maybe next year

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Re: Is your National held at the same place every year

by Jessica (Login JessicaAndCrew)
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The nationals are moved from division to division each year, in a different place. Next years nationals information (location, time and judges) will be announced at this years banquet. The time also varies also, it usually is held anywhere from Sept-November.

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Ok thank you maybe someone can fill me in when you

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find out

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Well....

by (Login JessicaAndCrew)
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I know....but only b/cause I have done the presentation for next years nationals:) But I ain't gonna tell

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:26 PM

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Meany lol

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Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 10:45 PM

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Do you know who is in charge of . . . . .

by (Login Inspirabull)
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Sponsor's? If so, Jim and I were in charge of reaching out to different Companies and I would like to give your crew my information and help them with Sponsorship for your Nationals!!

I am soo excited for y'all to be able to have this and that Jim and I can actually travel next year. Can you tell, I have not traveled for some time!! LOL!

Lisa

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Thanks for the explanation, nm

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Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 2:55 PM

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It is THE BEST!!!

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It is so educational....you get to see dogs who you have only seen pictures of in bulldogger or on bulldogsworld...you get to attend educational seminars for free....you get to meet all sorts of bulldog lovers from all over the US, Canada, Mexico and other countries...I can't bear the thought of missing it this year....I have flown w/o a dog to see it and attend all the conferences and sit back and chill with other bulldog fanatics....I have learned so much and know I have so much left to learn!!!! It is a terrific experience. It is wonderful to show a dog and it is wonderful to just attend and watch and study the dogs.
IF YOU CAN.....GO!!!!!

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Show Brag from Salem Oregon

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Finally we made it back out to the shows after being home with puppies for the last couple of months.

Beth showed Cannon today and he went Best of Breed.
Willamette Valley Kennel Club (1)
Salem OR
Saturday - November 7, 2009
Breed Judge: Mrs Kathleen M Grosso
WD (Bred-By Class), BOW and BOB
Adventure's Bringing Down The House "CANNON" (DOB 12/20/2008)
CH Flippin's Scout x CH Glendar's Ms Daisy
Bred and Owned By: Beth & Brian Stephenson and Linda & Chris Borden

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I Like!!! congrats! n/m

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n/m

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Thanks Cati

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Re: Show Brag from Salem Oregon

by sue (Login strictlyred)
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what a handsome boy..how old is he?

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Thaks Sue...He is 10 months old.

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-Brian
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Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 6:43 PM

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There's that handsome boy!

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Congrats on the nice win! How many points does he have now?

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Thanks Cheryl...

by Brian Stephenson (Login THE-Angus)
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Cannon has 5 points now...
-Brian

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 4:25 AM

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Congratulations, Brian and Beth

by (Login MarsHillBulldogs)
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Cannon is maturing nicely. Love that boy...

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Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 8:16 PM

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Thanks Cathy....He is such a

by (Login THE-Angus)
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good boy, soooo silly.
-Brian

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 4:26 AM

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congrats!!!

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Congrats! Hope to see u guys at nationals! Lottie

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 3:41 AM

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Thanks Lottie....Yep..We will be there.

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See ya soon, Brian

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 4:27 AM

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Congrats, he's gorgeous

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Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 4:51 AM

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Congrats

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A great picture what a flashy boy really a nice win. Kim & Burt

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 7:45 AM

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CONGRATS !!!

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Great looking picture .

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:43 AM

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Congrats !

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and I had to chuckle at that look. Like "Oh Please Pick Me".... hehehe.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:08 AM

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Congrats Beth and Brian

by (Login JadesK9s)
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Nick the pup I own by a dog you bred Titan is coming along nicely... I guess he is actually Cannon's nephew since titan and Cannon are half brothers.... here is a picture of Nick at 9 months old taken yesterday....

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Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 10:28 AM

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Thanks Dee...I had no

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idea that you had one of the pups out of Titan's first sired litter...
I will be interested in watching Nick mature..Thank you for sharing that photo.
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Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 6:27 PM

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Huge Congrats

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Canon looks great.. congrats again.

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Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 10:35 AM

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Congratulations Brian and Beth

by Elgene (Login Elgene)
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very nice looking boy and what a great win coming back in the ring from your puppy sabbatical

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 6:18 PM

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Congrats!

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What a great picture!! Cannon looks great

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 7:21 PM

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Cannon is beautiful! Growing nicely, Congrats!

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Suzie, Fabulous Phoenix & Havok

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 9:26 PM

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he is looking wonderful

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cant wait to see you in a few weeks.

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Congratulations!

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Very Nice!

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Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 3:35 AM

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Congrats, Beth & Brian

by Rod (Login rivercitybulldog)
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Kim & I were just talking about this boy last night. We are looking forward to seeing him in person.

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Thanks for all of the wonderful compliments.

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Posted on Nov 9, 2009, 6:24 PM

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Fantastic!

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Congrats to you both! Looking good!

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Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 4:51 PM

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Congrats!!

by (Login JessicaAndCrew)
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What a way to come out again! Nice pic of he and Beth.

Posted on Nov 10, 2009, 5:22 PM

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Nationals counts are in...

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National Show 543 Total Entries 378 Dogs 1 Obedience
Division 6 347 Total Entries 337 Dogs
HABC 312 Total Entries 303 Dogs

www.2009bcanationalshow.com

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Only ONE obedience entry??? Is that right???

by Sue Beaupre (Login SuzBully)
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I hope not.

Sue

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 5:48 PM

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sadly Sue.. I believe that is correct :O(

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anyone Results for the Grand Rapids, MI show this weekend?

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i will be there tomorrow........

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Beauties Amos

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I am looking for puppy pictures of Beauties Amos ..does anyone know where I can find some online

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 3:54 PM

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CH Beauties Amos

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you can try contacting Darlene Studeman (I know that is spelled wrong)--his breeder or Brenda Newcomb--she had him for a while.

Miriam Olesen
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Here's a link I found just googling him

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http://www.cymribulldogs.com/pedigrees/BeautiesAmosPic.htm

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Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 7:27 PM

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here are two pictures of Amos that I have....

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Dee Sampey-Nichols
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Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 10:38 AM

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NEW CHAMPION!

by Becky (Login BeckyHogan)
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I would like to say congratulations to my good friends Pam and Dean Altic and Dee Dee Moore for their new champion. Champion Countrybulls Remembering Daisy! She is a daughter to Ch. Taggarts Ain't Misbehavin! She is the fist of many champions sired by Ziggy. He is throwing awesome puppies.

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Congratulations

by Elizabeth (Login hugobull)
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Very nice!
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Adding my congrats!

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Always great to have a new champion in the house! Do we have pics?

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Nice!!!

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Way to go...great start!

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Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 5:01 PM

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Congrats!!

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Congratulations!!

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Glad to hear about you GREAT NEWS!! Did you take Winner's Bitch the next day or did I hear Jim wrong?

Dean and Pam CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Lisa

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Congratulations!!!

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Updated pictures of my babies (NOT 4 sale)

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They are 6 wekks and 4 days on these pictures . I am in LOVE with these babies . I think we are goint to grow these babies out for awhile and see what we have . The picture go from top to bottom ..Blossom , Mikie and the JR.

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by Elizabeth (Login hugobull)
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the red and white one!

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Re: Updated pictures of my babies (NOT 4 sale)

by (Login neenees)
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Elizabeth , he reminds me so much of your Bam Bamm ....... The brindles girls length and top line is better in person , it wasnt a good angle that we were at .

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Re: Updated pictures of my babies (NOT 4 sale)

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he's lovely! His head is much better than BamBam's was at this age and he is thicker.
e

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Awesome pups!

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Wow! They look great! Lots of bone on these babies.

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Gorgeous!

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Can't wait to see how they grow...they're absolutely beautiful!

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Re: Updated pictures of my babies (NOT 4 sale)

by (Login strictlyred)
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beautiful..I'll take me a blossom please..

Posted on Nov 7, 2009, 11:40 AM

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Lovely babies, especially the first one :)

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call me if you need a sitter!

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Pauline they are beautiful!
Give everyone a big hug and kiss from us and "Uncle Chopper"

sandy

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Re: call me if you need a sitter!

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Sandy .....I am going away in acouple of weeks abd Dom is going to take care of the babies and isnt really keen on doing puppy poo sooooooooo dont let him hear you offer to babysit ..........LOL

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Very nice.

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Nice job Pauline. It is amazing what years of hard work can produce.

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Re: Very nice.

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And it just how you said it "Years of hard work". I did way back have great mentors and this is why I always LOVE to try and give what advice I know to newbies .

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OMG! Nice...

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I could eat that mikie right up! How cute are these pups? Not bad when you have a hard time deciding pick.hehe Love them.

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cutiepies! n/m

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n/m

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Very Nice

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I like the Red and White boy. Best of luck with them.

Posted on Nov 8, 2009, 8:11 AM

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THANK YOU !!

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I am so happy to hear all the nice input on my babies and really appreciate it . I will try and give updated picture as they mature if you all would like to see them .

Thanks again ,
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Re: Updated pictures of my babies (NOT 4 sale)

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I like the second one the best but all are very nice...

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wow

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I think I'm in love also! Looks like lots of rib there.

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Nice babies!

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Congrats they look very nice love the brindle baby!

Laurie

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Congrats.

by Rod (Login rivercitybulldog)
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Nice looking pups!

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very nice pups!

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I would keep them all as well!

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OOOOO LA LA!

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Very pretty babies. So happy for you. Wishing you great futures for all of them!

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BCA Nationals Video from 2008

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We just posted a new video from Nationals last year. If you are in it and a member of TopK9s, login and tag your dog to the video then when other view it they will be able to jump right to your dogs page. Check it out at

http://topk9s.com/video.aspx?id=779

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Re: BCA Nationals Video from 2008

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I just checked Topk9s.com's stats and we had over 300 people view this video since last night. Wow. I have more to post. Thanks for watching.

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Thanks for posting them, Dave.

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Love seeing the videos!

Cathy Miller
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Bubbles Babies

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Ch. Hetherbull Tmar Double-R-Nothin X Ch. Mars Hill Champagne Toast
one piebald girl, one fawn boy
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They are beautiful Cathy, congrats

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Re: Bubbles Babies

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awww cute pups, neat markings on the fawn, momma looks pretty to... congrats!!

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