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August 2 2007 at 11:45 PM
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Apparently the team with lots of AA wannabees. Though I will admit that they have a couple of kids that can put the puck in the net, the problem here appears to be keeping it out of the net.

Has this team found a goalie? Or are they going to move forward with what they have?

 
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August 2 2007, 11:51 PM 

No slammin Hornet teams till they are 0 and 15. See you in October.

 
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August 3 2007, 12:06 AM 

I didn't know they were also playing tennis.

 
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August 3 2007, 12:07 AM 

might as well

 
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August 3 2007, 12:16 AM 

This thread isn't meant to slam, it is about finding out and discussing things.

 
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August 3 2007, 12:17 AM 

You wont find anything out on this site. You must be new.

 
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August 3 2007, 12:18 AM 

Not true, people will say things. It is just a matter or pushing the right buttons.

 
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August 3 2007, 12:20 AM 

good luck mr nosey.

 
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August 3 2007, 12:41 AM 

Thank you, I am being very optimistic.

I was very surprised with the amount of verbiage posted by Hornets parents after the Beaches Tournament. Everyone was so proud of their achievement, after all they should have been since the Hornets were able to make the playoff consolation with a 0-3 record.

Since the bashing that occurred in that thread the Hornets are more like a nest after a bout with a can of RAID. I guess many years of finishing the MA AA loop in last builds a sort of complacency.

 
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August 3 2007, 9:02 AM 

Good luck on the season.

 
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August 3 2007, 10:03 AM 

This team like most Hornets teams will probably go


KABOOM

 
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August 3 2007, 10:07 AM 

You think so? I know a few parents and prior to the Beaches tournament they appeared to realize that this would be a challenging season. After the Beaches their egos were slightly boosted and expectations went through the roof.So if anything is going to create a Kaboom situation then I would think this false optimism would. Team might need to do a bit of soul searching after the Early Birds.

 
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August 3 2007, 10:09 AM 

that is his opinion.

 
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August 3 2007, 10:27 AM 

mine too

 
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August 3 2007, 10:55 AM 

My lord, everyone is so conforming today. Must be the pre-long weekend and I've discussed this enough already. I am too tired to care anymore.

 
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August 3 2007, 11:40 AM 

Not sure what you mean - I haven't seen anything on the 98AA thread that places the Hornets anywere other than last (or close to)place.

 
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August 3 2007, 11:42 AM 

You would have to dig up the old Beaches tournament thread, that is where all the false optimism existed.

 
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August 3 2007, 11:48 AM 

Don't feel like doing any digging today. Knowing some of the kids on the team, the Hornets can't be as bad as they were last year.

 
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August 3 2007, 11:49 AM 

Yes they can.

 
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August 3 2007, 12:26 PM 

I keep hearing there is a major issue in the goal.

 
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August 3 2007, 12:34 PM 

The first year Hornets are always a group of deluded parents who think their kids should be in AA. If he/she were any good he would have made one of the more established teams. Hornets are expensive but it gives dad the right to say his kid plays AA. See previous years of disasters.

 
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August 3 2007, 2:59 PM 

Let's just hope they don't wear those awful 3/4 length black leather jackets with the bumblebee logo or hornet or whatever the hell it is?

 
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August 3 2007, 4:00 PM 

Hornets will rock!

 
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August 3 2007, 9:30 PM 

You're right, they will rock, good parents, but can they play hockey? This is yet to be seen.

 
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August 3 2007, 9:31 PM 

hornets uni's are funny

 
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August 3 2007, 10:01 PM 

hornets have what it takes to be a top team by mid season

 
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August 3 2007, 10:07 PM 

yes we feel good about our team , will have a great season

 
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August 3 2007, 10:17 PM 



02-03 Hornets 3rd overall 26-6-2
03-04 8th
05-06 9th 14-13-9 2points out of 8th
06-07 Disaster 2-32-2

05-06 Tigers 0-33-3

At minor atom other years mean nothing except helps with recruiting.
every year is a new bag of trix

 
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August 4 2007, 10:25 AM 

Yes the Tigers had a disaster team in 05/06 but they recovered well the following year and ended up in 4th. But that is just one season. You have many more to choose from.

 
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August 4 2007, 10:52 AM 

Each year is different

 
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August 4 2007, 12:00 PM 

Yes, every year is different. But consistently the Hornets do not draw a lot of talent.

 
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August 4 2007, 12:53 PM 

This is because they lack talent at the coaching level thus they can't attract kids, it becomes a vicious circle. Also very expensive for little return.

 
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August 4 2007, 5:16 PM 

Why is it very expensive? What is the budget?

 
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August 4 2007, 5:50 PM 

$1400 per player

 
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August 4 2007, 6:05 PM 

I know for a fact that doesn't include registration. Cost of pants. etc, etc.

 
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August 4 2007, 6:28 PM 

1400 isn't that bad. If you consider that you are probably getting 2 practices a week and 4-5 tournaments that is about right.

 
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August 4 2007, 6:51 PM 

Some MSSGA teams $1100

 
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August 4 2007, 6:52 PM 

VP Cost $2000 and the Rangers $1700

 
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August 5 2007, 11:01 AM 

That 1400 doesn't include pants jackets golf tourney banquet hockey pool and various other fundraisers. Must be the owner trying to low ball to make it look good,

 
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August 5 2007, 1:05 PM 


There is no golf tourmament and does include pants, jersey, jacket ect.

 
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August 5 2007, 1:25 PM 

You're in dreamland. Does not include pants. All you get is the jersy and socks. The rest you have to fork over.

 
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August 5 2007, 2:27 PM 

they dont like our budget lol

 
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August 5 2007, 2:28 PM 

You get what you pay for!!

 
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August 5 2007, 2:37 PM 

outdoor practice and share the sheet of ice with the Tigers.... JUST A JOKE TIGERS, We have been fortunate to keep our team budget lower than expected by wheeling and dealing with ice slots, cutting all extra costs.

 
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August 5 2007, 3:24 PM 

Like someone would believe that. Someones got a big hook in their mouth and it isn't a Tiger.

 
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August 5 2007, 8:47 PM 

Well no golf tourney but I see you didn't deny the $200 banquet and the $180 hockey pool.

 
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August 6 2007, 10:05 AM 

hey guys im back now

 
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August 6 2007, 12:44 PM 

So it appears that you have a lot of hidden costs to deal with. What is the final total when you consider your GTHL registration, team fees and other fees that the organization is throwing on top? Also, is there an expectation of fund-raising? Some teams decide to forego the fundraising and just have the parents pay for the entire shot. Seems like a lot of money but when you consider the amount of time and effort to do the fundraising, sometimes it is just easier to pay.

 
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August 6 2007, 2:13 PM 

The total is $1000 to the Org. and $1200 team budget ($2200 TOTAL). That includes Pants, 2 jerseys, bag, 2 socks, jacket, 2 practices per week and 5 tournaments. There is a hockey pool you have to sell tickets for and a dance you have to sell 4 tickets to (you and another couple). Any team fund raising would reduce the costs. As far as I know - 99% of org's have a dance that require parents to sell tickets to. Some make you sell a whole table. The pool is unique to the Hornets and you are required to sell 7 $20 tickets of that you get a $70 credit towards your registration.

You can talk about the track record of the league (crappy previous teams) etc... but to call the organization a rip off is a bit unfair. The Huskies, Royals, Ice Dogs are all more expensive (And that's just the teams I know about). $2200 is about a middle of the road cost.


 
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August 6 2007, 3:21 PM 

I think the cost is reasonable, what isn't is the caliber of the team usually and those black 3/4 length leather jackets. They are ugly!

 
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August 6 2007, 5:42 PM 

They have a great asst coach. Yes they did have to settle but you just never know

 
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August 6 2007, 9:34 PM 

Were parents kind of freaked out over the expenses?

 
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August 7 2007, 10:40 AM 

I thought this thread was to talk about hockey, not budgets.....

 
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August 7 2007, 11:12 AM 

They do go hand and hand.

 
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August 7 2007, 12:49 PM 

Parents all very happy to be part of the Hornets. We have great kids, parents, and coaches, and that's what it's all about.


 
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August 7 2007, 12:50 PM 

Well said

 
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August 7 2007, 3:24 PM 

good luck Hornets, I hope you prove them all wrong

 
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August 7 2007, 3:26 PM 

I have a lot of friends on the Hornets and like everyone here I wish the best to them also. I think the parents have put things in perspective hence anything above 14th will be viewed as an accomplishment. It is all about development and if they develop quick then who knows.

 
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August 7 2007, 3:28 PM 

You are no friend of mine! Same goes for your friend that says anything above 14 is....

 
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August 7 2007, 3:32 PM 

You are obviously one that feels this team will be in playoff contention. If it happens then great, but until you see some of the competition, and I would recommend at the Mississauga Early Bird you take a look at some of the other teams and re-think. I am going to be doing the same thing.

 
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August 7 2007, 3:44 PM 

ok then

 
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August 8 2007, 8:25 PM 

You guys in the Mississauga Early Bird?

 
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September 3 2007, 11:59 PM 

How did your tournament go the previous weekend?

 
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September 5 2007, 1:18 PM 

As a former Erindale parent who knows some of the parents on this team I can add this:
The tournament went KABOOM!!!! There are a couple of MAJOR problems with this team.

1) The goal-tending is awful. This is something that I don't see them fixing. THey have 2 goalies and both are house-league -'A' material. If they can't fix it then they will be 14th for sure.
2) Parent coaches with no experience. Just because you play mens league hockey, and played minor hockey doesn't mean you're qualified to teach children how to play. This is shown in the complete lack of intensity in the games as well as the 3 minute shifts and poor positional play.

The one thing the Hornets have going for them is their talent pool is similar to the mid pack teams. But with the really poor goal tending and below average coaching these kids are going to be mentally crushed by early November. If you gave them quality coaching and a good goalie I'd be surprised if they finished less than 7th place. The problem is they're missing both.

I really hope they can turn things around.

 
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September 11 2007, 7:24 PM 

Hey 5:18.....There is no misery here. It's all good. One tourney game doesn't warrant a comment like that. Worry about your own team and stop slamming others...it is not nice.

 
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September 11 2007, 7:25 PM 

Hey 5:18.....There is no misery here. It's all good. One tourney game doesn't warrant a comment like that. Worry about your own team and stop slamming others...it is not nice.

 
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October 10 2007, 2:28 PM 

That is absolutely untrue...(about the hitting comment). Clean hitting is allowed in minor hockey. Take a look at some other teams and then make your judgement. You have no right to make asumptions. Nobody wants kids to get hurt!!

 
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September 5 2007, 1:40 PM 

hey 1:18...you can't judge and make comments on a team when the real season hasn't even started...a summer tournament (with many kids away on vacation) is hardly a barometer of how the Hornets play or of things to come.....and futhermore there is nothing wrong with asst. parent coaches...don't all teams have them?

 
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September 5 2007, 1:45 PM 

Hey 1:18pm Why do you care about this team? It is ok to make comments and predictions but when you trash kids to make your point you have gone too far. You sound just like the moron who is on all the Tiger sites. They cut your kid too?


 
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September 5 2007, 1:46 PM 

Of course, it's always the goalies fault. Never a forward that refuses to come into his own zone to help or a defenseman swatting at the puck instead of taking a player. It's a team game as evidenced by the Ruskies mailing it in last night. 8 goals, must be a weak goalie. Go back to bed moron.

 
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September 5 2007, 1:50 PM 

I'm getting mixed reaction on this team - is it a strong or mid pack team?

Where is the strenght on this team?

How do they compare to Miss Terriers or Braves?

 
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September 5 2007, 1:55 PM 

Actually the Russian goalie played a great game and kept the score down. It could have been much worse.

Always easy to blame the goalie and sometimes it is justified but defence is a team game.

 
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September 5 2007, 1:58 PM 

Who won and which teams played

 
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September 5 2007, 2:35 PM 

Hey 1:45

You must be the same guy freaking out and over reacting at all his comments.

 
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September 5 2007, 2:52 PM 

What happened during the tournament? Scores, etc.

 
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September 5 2007, 3:59 PM 

Did JM(Hornets owner) give up the coaching reins to someone else?

 
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September 5 2007, 5:07 PM