Should a president of an organization be allowed to coach a team? Who will handle the discipline when it involves the exec.
IE: Rumour has it that the Pres of Clarington`s AAA zone instigated a physical confrontation with 1 of his own ass`t coaches during a game. The entire affair was hushed up with no consequenses. If this would have been another coach, this pres would have crucified him, & rightly so.

This guy sounds like a real role model for both the kids & organization. He should resign if this true.

Where was the rest of the executive. They have a responsibilty to take action no matter who it is.

boyz club at its best

are the president and the assistant coach not brothers?
did they not marry their own sisters?
it is clarington after all so a little dust up at a family function should not be surprising.

It`s basically a 2 man dictatorship & self appointed.

not for long, big changes coming fast, look at the AAA teams not doing very well.

you are right, but the one`s leaving will be the one`s doing well. These 2 exec`s can`t stand it when they don`t dominate the limelight. Instead of supporting Clarington`s team`s, they put up road blocks.

things certainly move slow in clarington id assume this one will be forgotten about like other problems in other sports ie lacrosse,i wanted to use ie really badly

only if he has a kid on the team and friends with kids on the team

Calling ts a coach is an insult to all other coaches. took a team from OMHA silver medalist to basement dwellers, well done.

Play in Peterborough where half of the executive are either coaching or managing teams !

Not only the president has a team but so does the vice president, TS, who has very unhappy parents with no where to go.

some of us know where to go.

The sad thing is most of these associations have by-laws and policies in their Constitutions to protect against this type of conflict of interest. But because they never share the Constitution with the membership, no one knows better.

Seriously, ask to get a copy of the clubs constitution. The real constitution, not the edited version they post on their website.

These 2 Clarington execs have created such an animosity between the Toro oganization & the Zone group, they can`t even be in the same room together.
And the sad part to all this is, GH & TS couldn`t care less what anyone thinks. Until someone finally stands up to them, Clarington minor hockey will suffer.

The process has begun.

This is why good coaches and players leave small organizations. You need someone credible to step up for your executive positions if you want to be taken seriously.

4.03 is absolutely right, & it`s time for Clarington to step up to the plate & hold these 2 clowns accountable.

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How many are on the executive in Clarington?

According to TS and GH ... only 2.

Is it true that AAA Clarington coaches must address TS & GH as "SIR" when speaking to them?

Who's going to replace them? All these people run off at the mouth but arent willing to step up to the plate. Would you donate 20 hours of your week to an organization and not get payed?

TS and GH do a fine job that is thankless, but all the moronic parents out there think they can do a better job but are no where to be found.

About the GH incident on the bench, get your story straight, you people have no clue!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the reply TS.

here we go again

Dadof4, Coach and Player development Chair took his kid to Quinte cuz he didnt get team he coached into the ground back, oh and Dadof4 brought huge embarrassment as auto worker using company computer to bash the neighbours and then had to publicly appologize and is not allowed on the OMHA network. OHMA and Ice scheduler gets $1200 per month. GH already banned from coaching over serious issues and TS, well trucker boy is in the same league as alberwennny and Dadof4, Dense, ignorant and not the sharpest tools in the shed.

Others applied to coach the midget AAA team but were told they did not qualify and then at the last minute super duper fat ass AW root bear steps in and destroys team. 8 players at 90 age group refused to play for this moron. Let the #1 goalie at the 91 age group get away just to save his out of shape boy a place to play. Check the history not a good role model for your kids. Nice try wiggly fat ass.

Couldnt be TS that wrote that response, no smarts and cant read or write. None if this crew know hockey. The omha has been advise and will clean house. Did he confront his asst coach on the bench, does TS still yell and scream at the kids? What a disgrace to hockey.

I see his putzy wife is on the exec too. Well know, CRHL houseleage mentality running toroland. No wonder you are going downhill fast..... and with the addition of Porthope and increase draw area. worst coach and player development, cant teach if you cant put a proper sentence together.

TS GH now theres disfuntion, Trucker and Plumber..... but not hockey guys. Please get TS off our team

Dadof4, they all knew what he did and still he brags on the www.claringtontoros.com site, Sad as it is about his 3rd term. Wow Craco you are the man. NOt what a sorry loser you are. and really not very bright. What an embarrassment to your family.

Is the ugly blonde lady still on the exec? heard the Prez and her use to have private meetings, nudge nudge

how can a guy be on the executive and take his kid to play somewhere else? What kind of crap is this. Only in Toroland. Dadof4 must be proud

WE need to get these guys out of here

OUI, need to get these guys out of here.

This is good stuff guys. keep going

Only in toroland where they ignore the Constitution and make rules up to suit them. time has come, big investigation going on, OMHA fed up and members are going to toss these boys aside like the garbage they are. Dadof4

toroland Pres and VP worst coaches in the loop. Only there becuz they can put themselves there. Sad but true

Anyone that has power on a committee should NOT coach ever!

If they can influence schedules , rules and policy then it is a conflict for them to coach.

Sounds like troubles in Clarington

yes

What has he done?

You know that having an ongoing conversation with yourself constitutes a serious psychological problem, but you have been told that before. Maybe you should pay someone to do a study!

I think that if anyone is sure who the moron is that is posting this nonsense, lets bring him out into the open. He can`t hide forever.

My Money is on TS or GH

Past pres...did it before

The boys are just securing their future at the expense of the boys they coach and the members they hurt.

Sure why not?

Still not right even if done before. Complete misuse of position. But look at who is involved.

Absolutley not, and this case neither should the VP. Neither of these guys would be coaching anywhere if not for the positions they hold. Parents have no place to go to effect change. But, things are on the move and changes will be coming.

No executive should be allowed to coach

Can't you effect change at the AGM ,wouldn't you have a vote?

No, room is loaded with exec people and when change comes in that interefere with their control they vote it down. does the Ice Scheduler and OMHA reps get paid $600 per month? How can I apply for that cushy job.

NO No No. Conflict of interest. Would be a serious travesty if he had a son on the team. Wow. Go to the OHMA, OHF and even HOckey Canada to have this rectified.

so what you are saying is there aren't enough people who see things your way,maybe you're the problem,if people thought the same as you they'd be backing you at the AGM...does that make sense,or does the executive have more votes per person than the average joe

From one of the Bozos. That is what we have to deal with. They have no real sense of reality.

Why do you have a problem with these people getting paid,do you have any idea on how much work these guys do running 30 some odd teams, there is nothing wrong with any of the exec's getting paid, as long as they are not, using their own power to get what they want< or if there is any personnal conflicts of interest.

Would you rather have a president that only took the job in the Toros org so that he could force the AAA coaches to pick his kid, or they wouldnt be allowed to coach the team

Well it appears as we have both as stated above. Aaa and AA the same. Into the ground we go

The only reason he is coaching and his kid is playing is he is the Prez

TOROLAND UNITE. Band together, nominate a qualified honest, respectable person for the key positions and then get out to the AGM and vote them in. We have great people for Pres AA, Chair\Pres AAA and VP AAA. Do not let these idiots get voted in to other positions. Boot time. Stand up for our Org.

Back to the Topic. NO definate conflict of interest. They dicard great coaches so they can coach. Selfish in obvious to all in the org. Glad my boy doesnt play for them.

Its a CONFLICT of INTEREST!!!

Totally CONFLICT .... In the CYO they have 3 bench staff members sitting on the executive and they all belong to the same team.

toroland applied to join CYO where this crap is allowed. Good luck. OMHA is fed up.

yeh right! No truth in any part of the last post.

Toros need to get A/E hockey, that would help out everywhere ....

GTHL with AE level hockey??

Interesting thought!!

CYO execs want to make sure the league is around for their kid, so they coach as well, want to make sure their little Johnny get the right amount of ice! 3 execs on one team, that is WRONG! Manager is a hockey ho

Same crap in Toroland. Only on exec to coach kid

One way to get a spot.

Whitby thinks they have it BAD..... They have nothing compared to the Crap on our AAA Zone Exec. Not only there for the wrong reasons, they do not have a clue

Coach should always be someone not connected to the executive.

NOt in Toroland, you make up the rules as you go. look at the mess at the Midget and MPeewee levels.... Shameful guys, when will you realize you cannot coach................

MPeewee came in second in league. That isn't too bad.

Yeah but our kids had to listen to mr potty mouth and we had to look at his wife..... YIKES... Sorry to the 98's....

NOt only did the Prez\Coach initiate the confrontation he pursued the poor guy in front of the kids. I guess he had to report himself to himself and then he decided there was no action required against himself. Conflict of Interest and Abuse of Power. We have submitted our formal complaint to HC, OHF and the OMHA. Ruling soon.