back, and better than ever for 2008-2009

check out www.cyohockey.com

its the best league in Durham

LOL, Donkeys!

As compared to what???

After a successful tryout session for the REP program , we wish all our players a safe and enjoyable summer holiday.

EEEEEEYYYYYYYYOOOOOORRRRR!!

Solarbear REP Hockey,

The greatest show in Durham !!!

All the best CYO.
WHITBY WAKE UP AND START LISTENING TO WHAT PARENTS WANT.
Without them paying out big bucks to you, you don't have a League.
Executive Bunch over their will never change.
Its all about me attitude and the buddy system!

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Breaking News !!!

The CYO is presently in negotiations with the Greater Metro Jr "A" Hockey League (GMHL) to form a Junior A Team in the Durham Region. Terry Ruddell our President expects to have a deal cut soon and is expecting to begin putting the infrastructure in place this fall. A draft and summer camp would be expected the following spring & summer.

This is really exciting news for players participating in our local rep league. The GMHL is also excited about this venture as they have recently affiliated with the World Hockey Association and are now planning on expanding their program. The CYO would allow its rep players full choice in which Junior "A" team to try-out for.

My son has played for CYO.
Best year he ever had.
WHITBY Hockey is to serious.
Just go and watch the parents and have fun!

Is that a vanity Pay To Play league or an actual junior hockey league. Tell me its not one of those leagues morons pay $4,000 to play in.

CYO Rocks? I thought they didn't have any stones.

This JR team is just another attempt by these morons to make money off dads that can't accept there kid is hl calibre.

yep it is and its not $4000 its a lot more.

A few 97's my kid played in Whitby hl made cyo rep???? wtf, one is awful-everybody makes it?

A few kids my son played with in Whitby made the A and AE team and couldn't skate. I guess it's not really how good you are is it?

LOL, Donkey-comparing your program to Whitby.

Few Peewee & Atom teams are close to folding-enrollment is way down.

Once this happens - all cyo will have to pay the price ....too bad! The league is in real trouble ..

CYO teams can only play some other private teams in Barrie & London?

If your kid is a good Atom he plays 'up' with in peewee with 97-96 players that should be in OMHA hl?

If your kid is a good Peewee he plays 'up' in Bantam with players that should be in OMHA hl?

If this develops the kid enough he tries out for rep in the OMHA?

www.cyohockey.com

www.GiveADonkeyYourMoney.com

Better than ever??? You guys used to have teams in NYHL, play in whatever tournament you wanted. Enter Alliance provincial championships. Now you play no real teams, just 2 private groups will play you. CYO is a pathetic shadow of the past,kept alive on the pocketbooks of hl dads who don't want to admit that's what they are.

Cost is about $1450 with 3.5 hours ice, very hard to get total costs from team managers.

They want you signed up, and it will be too late when they hit you with the really big bill for the season.

Real, Home Town Hockey !!!!
Rep league without the travel

www.cyohockey.com

Rep league without rep players is more like it.


CYO CROCKS is a better thread title.

Cant use the word rep in CYO, its below h/l level

So why did the 93 AE team take two more below h/l players from the Solar Bears this year? They must take anyone now!

why do you waste your time on this thread (or forum), you are a member of a private league that everyone knows is a low level of houseleauge hockey. We see you at Legends and childrens with those jackets on and think to ourselves, why?

why not!?

I'm not from the league. I'm asking you a question.

8:10pm, he wastes his time on this forum because its how he makes a living. Needs to bs about how good the CYO is, hoping to dupe more Whitby hl dads.

Of Dads from Clarington that think little johnny is playing rep in the CYO,,,,,LC is one of them, get real Lady your kid is not there..... stay with the cyo till you get kicked out of there as well ,,,,how is lacrosse going?

Nope, not from the CYO at all. Kid plays OMHA rep. I just think you guys are rediculous. I agree with choice. There is no such thing as an outlaw league. There are H/C leagues and private leagues. Outlaw league is a term some idiot made up. When you put your kid in 3 on 3 it's a private league. When you take your kid's private summer team to a private summer tournament you are now an outlaw by your definition. All of the leagues were private at one time because of parents who didn't agree with how things were run. But you're too ignorant to know about your own league and like to blather away on here. All you can ever come up with when someone disagrees with you is that they must be a CYO exec. You're a broken record!

Do you agree with home schooling? Dont like the rules that the catholic and pulic boards offer so do you think that is a choice?

"I just think you guys are rediculous."

Hey Hey were the Donkees.

Admit it 1:39, your a Donkey! Kid plays OMHA rep then you laugh at these clowns.

Seriously, it EEEEYYOORRREEE when they pass, everyone smirks-no OMHA rep dad is actually endorsing these jacka$$e$

choice that is what I think is important.

how can you compare education with sport?

education and law are governed by our government....hockey is not nor should it or any other sport be.

dont compare law with hockey governing bodies.

Admit it 1:39, your a Donkey! Kid plays OMHA rep then you laugh at these clowns.

I can't admit what isn't true and you sound silly continuing to claim that I am involved with them. For the record I don't agree with them going non H/C and I'm far from claiming they are the perfect organization but what I won't do is criticize a parent's choice in product, and what the CYO are trying to provide for the kids. Why would a kid choose H/L when they can choose something more. The sheer number of CYO kids that have been scooped up in the past two seasons of tryouts goes to show the development they have received even just from an ice time perspective. Most of these kids never played rep before but now they are. There are hundreds of kids in h/l so why were the CYO kids taken over the available h/l kids? It is obvious that playing CYO gave them a better chance of moving up then playing h/l. Now if they ever decided to tier the h/l and provide an extra hour of ice each week, and bring back body contact I would then change my opinion. Nobody gives two cents about the CYO except for Oshawa and Whitby because it drains their h/l coffers. Kids will play wherever they are having fun and if they're not having fun then I would suggest they would tell their parents that. Are you really claiming these kids are being dragged against their will to the hockey rink?

The parents are disgruntled parents - that is why they left! Kids do end up Happy!

You make some good points 9:40, but muddle some facts. This makes no sense to me
"The sheer number of CYO kids that have been scooped up in the past two seasons of tryouts"
What happened 2 and 3 years ago is not applicable. The CYO left Hockey Canada last year, it is a totally different program now. Only the kids at this years rep tryouts came from that new system-and far fewer were chosen than when the CYO was in Hockey Canada. Take away coaches kids as they automatically make teams and it was a very poor showing by CYO kids at Whitby's rep tryouts compared to the past.

I'm watching this as a Whitby hl parent, everything posted here is is full of half truths and outright lies-from both sides.

If the CYO calibre has dropped, numbers are down and limited opponents isn't as much fun then why not rejoin Hockey Canada?

Current board may not be a group willing to take that step but it makes sense. HL isn't residentially restricted in HC, call CYO upper tier HL. Teams can go back into North York league, play 'up' in HC tournaments as Select, AE or even A if good enough.

Teams not as strong can enter Oakville upper tier hl tournaments-going back to HC opens a lot of options for all the teams.

Am I missing something in all this-maybe house in HC is restricted to residents?

If the CYO could re-join the Alliance it would be a smart move.

The OMHA has too many limitations for what the Solarbear/Local Rep program wants to be.

I suggest anyone thinking of playing CYO next year make sure your kid has proper equipment maybe even extra equipment and keep your head up. Ref's are terrible and kids are out to hurt. Some kids have never had hitting before and the coach's are not teaching them properly. One ref is drunk for most games and the exec just want your money. One team is made up of over 1/2 the executive. Beware houseleague is the better choice for safety, fairness and fun. This is coming from a year of hell...

Why did you choose them to begin with? And, do you really think that is different from any other league?

I'm not that parent 9:06am but what kind of questions were those? You think that is normal in any league, obviously they were not aware of problems when they placed their kid in the cyo.

We are thankful for the warnings on this site, made us ask people without a vested interest in the cyo about it. Heard enough to stay clear, don't put your kid in this league based on what people profitting off it say.

I'm not that parent 4:00pm but what kind of ENGLISH is that?

With the bunch running that league, they are stund, as someone once said on this site, the cyo has turned into a cult. GH and TR are babbling garbage and everyone believes them, dont trust them! Remember what happened in the NASC, these people are nasty. Playing in H/C is the only choice ...

any idea on numbers?

I was at a the so called tryout, it was a joke

Shouldn't that be....type of English?

What rock did you climb out of ...... you slime ball!

"ask people without a vested interest in the cyo about it."

The CYO was a great experience, and a stepping stone for my son. His skilled improved and he now is playing rep in his home center.
The extra ice time versus the local houseleagues is worth it in terms of development.
The NASC is a joke, if you want a good H/L in oshawa the OCHL is a much better choice.

Nobody is asking for "parents" to give testimonials here 8:03. Unless you sign it why should it be accepted at face value? Your post reads just like the recruiters sales pitch, hoping to enroll the hl dads desperate for their kids to make OMHA rep.

Ask people you trust about the CYO, don't listen to posters for and against it here. Is the recruiter making $50 off your kid enrolling, is it a coach saying anything to fill out a roster....is person posted negatives an ousted former exec?

Do you not realize that if kids leave the CYO and join home centers they may take potential spots away from little Johnny?

I think that people should be careful what they wish for as you might just get it. Let's say the CYO folds next season...where do you put the 400-600 kids from 5yrs old to 15 years old? Even if they all just join house league...does Whitby Minor really need or want 20 Novice teams, 20 Atom teams, ........?

Bottom line is that my kids played last season in both HL and "competitive" in the CYO and had a blast. It was fun, well organized, convenient, and with their friends. The experience was well worth the money and enjoyed by all in our family. Would they have fun in WMHA, yes? Is one better than the other, perhaps. Was the CYO better suited for our family (game times, locations.), yes.

I am not crazy enough to think that the competitive level with the CYO is equal to A, AA, or AAA but it is a step up from house league and a great challenge for the kids. Perhaps it is a perfect place to develop the potential A, AA, or AAA kid? Are there kids in the CYO that are skilled enough to crack a rep team in Oshawa or Whitby, most definitely?

I would applaud any child that plays in the CYO one season and makes a rep level team the next for any league. It should be less about the name of the league and more about hockey, for all levels.

Who would have more fun next season, a kid in CYO playing against kids 3 years older/younger, playing only the same few private teams in league play and tournaments-OR- a kid in NASC house league where teams are free to enter all Hockey Canada tournaments?

Take the money saved from playing in NASC and put 1/2 of it towards power skating instruction-your kid will be far better next April than if he played CYO.

"I am not crazy enough to think that the competitive level with the CYO is equal to A, AA, or AAA but it is a step up from house league and a great challenge for the kids."

Looking at the 97 hl Whitby players going to the cyo how can it be a better calibre than Whitby hl for a 96? We know of 98's that will play in peewee, also hl players. CYO is not a step up from hl, poorer calibre than Whitby depending on your kids age.

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www.cyohockey.com

No matter where you go, no matter what league, have FUN....

You noted:

"Looking at the 97 hl Whitby players going to the cyo how can it be a better calibre than Whitby hl for a 96? We know of 98's that will play in peewee, also hl players. CYO is not a step up from hl, poorer calibre than Whitby depending on your kids age."
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I can only speak for the divisions that my kids played in. My kids are in the lower age groups. The "competitive" team in my son’s age group had at least 3 kids make it onto A, AA, or AAA Whitby teams this year. That is 20% of the team and that is for only the kids that even tried out. I know of 3 more that could have made AE or A at least.

My point is that I don’t think you can compare apples and oranges and that is what everyone is doing here. All leagues have a purpose and meet the needs of people. In our time in the CYO we have seen much change but have not felt that it was a cash grab for the CHPA or CYO Executive, nor have we felt that it was unsafe or poorly run.

I am not deaf or blind so I have heard of issues with certain age groups and families. I have been focused on my kids and the moment I feel that it is not safe for them or there is a single worry I will make a change for the better. This may never happen if good people get involved and call the league to task.

Would being a member of HC. OMHA, Alliance,...NYHL be better for the competitive level kids, perhaps. I only say perhaps because of travel and game times in the city being tough for many families. Perhaps the CYO is exactly what is needed, a middle level league where kids can be challenged to become better and have fun. Not A, AA, or AAA but more competitive than HL. This is a draw for many families.

If a child leaves WMHA to play CYO because they were in HL and made a CYO "competitive" team, great. It is the childs happiness that matters most and if this change will make him happy then great. Perhaps he just likes the uniforms or has a few friends playing....whatever it is, he wants to do it.

As long as it is safe and he has fun, I am for it. The same goes for any child wanting to tryout for WMHA and leave the CYO. I say great.

We seem to lose perspective of why we get our kids involved in the first place. All kids are not AAA hockey and LAX players. We seem to focus all of our energy and resopurces on these kids, shouldn't it be spread out or perhaps the other way around?

Valid points, kids happy in the current CYO that's great.

CYO calibre doesn't sound better than Whitby hl to me, if players are coming from Whitby hl and its 2, even 3 year age brackets how is that better? Maybe for a kid playing against older players-even that seems strange. I sure wouldn't want my kid to be playing body contact with kids 2 years younger or older.

Good luck to you guys, hope a child is not seriously injured.

What certification do CYO coaches need, is Dev1 at least required?

As long as you come and bring kids they dont care !

quote from that CYO site...what a joke!
"The CYO and OMHA are not sanctioned by the same sanctioning body,
therefore players do not require a release from their centre to tryout and or register with the CYO."

They are saying that people dont need a release, do you know why? Cause the CYO is houseleague hockey DAD's..oops sorry to break the news to you! This league is the laughing stock of Durham, cult hockey for sure! Get out as fast as you can! I ref'd in that league last year, what a joke..see ya GH

www.cyohockey.com

Please check it out, and see for yourself,

as with all leagues there are people who like it, and some may find other leagues more attractive.

make up your own mind, and if you join our program , it will be a great experience.

the #1 developmental league in Durham region

CYO is in decline, calibre of play was terrible last season compared to the year before.

No matter where you choose to play, Good luck, and have fun.

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What is the CYO refund policy-all I see on web site is no refunds after Oct 30.

Does that mean full refunds before that date?

No refund EVER!