Yeah, the Ricoh is interesting, but really expensive, and the conversion lens is uber expensive too. I keep looking at the Kodak V570; the dedicated 23mm lens, nice screen, MPEG4 movies and small size are the attractions, every thing else is a "minus"; it is a dumbed down Kodak, "only" 5MP, the colors are over the top, expensive, etc. Seems to take very nice 23nn wide angle though, plus it has built in distortion correction and a built in panorama mode that actually stitches your shots in the camera; how cool is that?