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Line-up is pretty well set. You'd have to be a good AA player to crack it. This team is that good! Probably one or two players to add AT MOST!

You know, if my kid was that good of a "AA" player I wouln't be thing about coming down to a "A" team. My question is, if this team is that good why can't these kids move to a "AA" organization. Another thing this is the same team that lost to Leaside also had trouble with the Royals is the final. So I think all those HV parents who think their kid is all that and more just remember parents this is only "A" no bragging rights until your kid can play "AAA". The last time I looked that was where all the big boys play, so you guys out there in HV land your S--t stinks to.

You want to see bragging check out the Rangers. Someone has posted that they will not loose a game next year. Sharks had a good year but not a great one.

Hey coach TAMPERING IS ILLEGAL. You have been caught and you will be reported.

Okay, that makes a lot of sense.

Heard that HV 95A is going to pick up some of the AA kids that were cut - any truth in this?

NO! You can't sign kids until the try outs and he went and signed a player before the try outs. That is TAMPERING!

Boy this kid must be good. What team is he from?

Rangers had a good year too but not a great one.

Yes please do tell who they signed early. Is he a AA player? What proof do you have? This is good.

You don't have to wait until tryouts to sign somebody. The season end provides an automatic release. The end of the season is the last game team plays, whether it's playoffs, clancy, tournament. It's not tampering because, technically, all players are free agents. They don't belong to a team. In the older age groups, where they sign two-year cards, it would be tampering, unless the two years was at an end.

The guy who posted the tampering charge is full of it. I guess he was told his son was not good enough for the team. Trying to start something without any facts. HV is a good team well coached and has a great parent group. They will be near the top again this year.

You tell them.....

Give your head a good shake, moron!

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My AA son skated at the try-out with the coach knowing he was already signed.
Tring to catch a winner.

Did it WORK...

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just look at the team.very strong

Sharks look good. Any problems in Shark Land?

Maybe they should be looking for a spot in AA for next year. They just demolished the Avalanche 8-0 - and that was the first loss of the season for the Avs! If anything, I can't see how they'll hold this team together for next year - there will be too much pressure for the players to move to AA!

No spots on AA team.Some AAA kids will come down to AA.This team will be together for a while.Keep it strong....

They keep playing the same 2 or 3 players every other shift. with this style of play they should move to AAA that's where winning is the only thing that matters not fair play. If you eliminate those few players it would be a very different story. Plus they keep video taping every game. they better watch out, from what I hear a few parents on other teams are working on having that eliminated.

What a bunch of losers taping every game. If they are that serious they should be in AAA.

It does violate the GTHL rules and city rink rules - no videotaping allowed.

What rule does the GTHL have about video taping? I went thru the rule book. No mention of a rule against it. You can't use video to protest a call but it doesn't say you can't do it. Do you think there something wrong Video taping a kids game? Parents do it all the time from House League to AAA. If your Jealous get your Camera out and Video tape your games. I think the GTHL should tape every game then they would realise how bad the refs are.

Yikes where are they going to go. the AA Sharks are 10-0 this year so unless they want to switch organizations this team may be good for years to come.

There are a few AA teams that don't belong at that level - a wholesale import, which happens all the time...

As for video-taping the games - what's wrong with that? The rule about cameras is that you can't take them into the dressing room - that may explain your confusion.

The Sharks roll their lines - that's what makes them so good, especially in the 3rd period. They don't play 2 or 3 players above all else. Let's face it, this team is good and well run!

Just as a heads up guys all city run renues like (Etob. Cent. or Irene Risk) ect. out rule the GTHL, NO cameras or video taping unless agreed to before the the game by both coaches. But remember any parent at anytime can ask that the camera be shut off for no reason. Privacy bill over rules everyone

Thanks for the knowledge, there you go gang.....you can stop HV in their tracks....that would just P-----f a few of those premadona parents

All you need to do is inform the rink attendant and they have to enforce the no camera rule. End of taping.

The city is trying to clamp down on sexual predators who have used rinks in the past to video tape yong kids.

This is crazy. Now if you want to video your kids game you have to go through giant hoops? That's insane! How small minded can you get? Video is a teaching and coaching tool that has great value. It also, not coincidentally, is a wonderful way to caputre memories. Why is this about "stopping HV in their tracks"? Why can't you just focus on your own team and develop their skills?

I think HV should probably move up to AA next year and be the "B" team for their organization. The differential is that great - the GTHL should be dropping poor-performing teams as well.

I think this team moving to AA as their B team next year is a gret idea. It's obvious this team is way to good for the A loop.

they have you fooled

DIdn't Leaside do this in some divisions? Isn't that where the Kings come from? (I'm asking - I don't honestly know for certain).

If people in the AA loop are concerned then the league should just drop Etobicoke Canucks and Streetsville Tigers - they aren't competitive at all.

Would HV have an A team if they have two AA teams?

as long as HV keeps playing the same 3 players (if you ask me these players should be in AA minimum)they will win. I have seen it first hand to many times.

Sorry but the sharks do roll there lines and we use the video as a teaching tool.

The primary objective of the program is to teach kids the game of hockey and video is an excellent way to teach. Instead of worrying about the fact that we video tape the games it might be better to ask what we do with the tape. We show it to the kids so that they can see for themselves what they do well, and what they can improve. We do not emphazing winning but rather player development. That is why the kids stay and the families are only too happy to stay.

We play all the kids because that is the only way to develop the players confidence. We treat all the kids with respect and they are only happy to work hard to succeed. We practice alot as we think hockey is a difficult game and practice is important.

We think it works and I think we win because we are not focused on the results of the game but the development of the players.

I would suggest all the talk of "stopping the sharks.." is a waste of time but rather it should be what are they doing that we should be doing and how can we get our own players better. It is a more more productive way to improve the calibre of hockey in the league.

Thank you for thinking some of our players are triple AAA calibre. They almost all came out of house league and but they have worked hard on their game and the credit goes to the players for their imporvement.

A shark coach.

Coach, who would you say will be your toughest compitition this season?

Leaside A team. Beat us 4-1 in an exhibition game.

Interesting - in the EAST there is 5 points separating the top 5 teams where Leaside Flames play. In the West the difference is 13 points. This shows the East is more balanced, and potentially higher calibre overall compared to the West, at least in the top 5 teams.

Let me narrow it down further, what team from your loop?

Are you aware that there are privacy laws in this country? You cannot videotape an 11 year old child without prior consent. Are you aware that there are legal ramifications for what you are doing? By taking video of a minor without their parents or guardian's consent, you are treading into illegal waters. There are explicit privacy laws which protect all our children and although you say the video is being used for training purposes the potential for abuse still exists which makes it illegal. The purpose of the law is to stop sinister behaviour and by allowing you to do this there is the possibility of someone else using this for underhanded purposes.
I suggest that we all protest the video tapping of our children at public arenas. If this still persists we should all start by contacting the GTHL and explaining that if this is not dealt we will have no choice but to take it further.

You could easily call the Metro Toronto Sex Crimes Unit and they will put a stop to it very quickly. I would suggest the GTHL and City of Toronto first, they can easily deal with the video taping situaiton.

Why does one goalie play more than the other. I've been watching this team play from day one, this season, and it seems to me that the coach plays his son a substantial amount more 4:1. Are you afraid of loosing by playing the other goalie. Even though the shots on your net are minimal you've had a couple of close calls. I would also like to add that this has to be one of the dirtiest teams out there. So use your videos to eliminate the dirt and to keep track of the goaltending rotation. This is A hockey....... be fair.

Wrong, this team has never asked for permission to tape a game that is untrue. (This is from a former parent) One other thing, this is not a AA team lets face it, just look at some teams, EC, ST, WM teams that have a number of single A kids on it. You need a balanced team it is a big jump and this team doesn't have it.

this team should move up to AA. Lood at Leaside from last year, the entire team moved up. Then look at the vaughan ranger team from 2 years ago, that team also moved up.
their kids are not improving by blowing everyone out.

I think you mean Ted Reeve. Leaside is the same team as last year.

I cannot believe what I am reading on this site. Parents want to protest the use of videotaping of games for coaching purposes. Coaches can't win. These sites are filled with people blasting their coaches. Here it looks like coaches are trying to teach their kids to play this great game and instead of praising this team and their coaching they want to protest.

What's wrong with you people? If I videotape my baby taking his first steps at the park next summer and your child walks by in the background, will you ask me to erase the tape.

Last time I checked I did not sign a waiver to have the professionals tape my son's hockey game at EVERY tournament.

Morons, all of you!!!

Please don't call people morons for protesting against taping of games. Haven't you paid any attention to all of the problems in hockey with coaches taking nasty advantage of kids. This isn't to say that 99% have the best at heart. By the way, none of these guys taping or any of the guys they are taping for are professionals. Oops, I stand corrected... We actually do pay some coaches to coach our eleven year olds.

Hey Buddy...I don't care how many times or in which way you video tape your own child because he is your child but, WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO VIDEO TAPE MY CHILD WITHOUT MY CONSENT??

You're kidding right. Do you honestly think every sporting venue will be able to ban the right to tape their children's participation?

I tape my kids X-Mas concert every year, plays, musical performances..These are public events and memories we share with aunts, uncles grandparents.

I can't imagine anyone asking me to turn my camera off because I have not asked for permission.

Clearly, you have issues. I have taped games and given them to opponents, even when they have defeated our team. Kids should be proud of their accomplishments, win or lose. It's a small hockey community and more enjoyable when all families enjoy the competition.

What team are you on? I'll make youy a DVD next time we play you...

Do you give your consent every time you walk into sporting life to buy new clothes with your kids. They have Cameras everywhere. There are cameras in some of the rink lobbies did you give your consent. Baseball, Track, Cross Country, Christmas Concerts. Video Cameras and still Cameras are everywhere. People want to catch these moments for their kids. Don't you wish you had some tape of your games when you were 11. I sure do. I'm sure I was nowhere near as good as I think I was. Try and stop real crime and don't be such a baby. What could somebody do with imgages of kids in full hockey equipment. You can't see any part of them. They are totaly covered by their equipment. If they didn't have their team jackets and bags you woudn't be able to identify any of them after a game.

i'm from another division, not associated with the sharks, and it's crazy that all these jealous parents out there have to find something to slag. look at all the time spent on this thread about video taping. is that the best you can come up with? who the hell cares. obviously this is a great team so get lost you idiots.

THANKS DAD..........I HOPE WE DIDN'T TAKE MUCH OF YOUR TIME, YOU CAN GO BACK TO YOUR TV AND WATCH JUNIOR SCORING

BYE BYE HV PARENT

Actually, there is a policy in effect at all city rinks which forbids the use of video cameras totally - no taping allowed at all unless you get clearance from the city first. If someone complains to the GTHl/City of Toronto the taping will end very quickly.

This is a dirty team, the kids use their elbows to the head and sticks in an illegal way, and get away with it. Referees give this team preferential treatment. It's not right. You do not play all the kids evenly, #2 and #16 are on the ice every other shift, either together or separately. Video taping is illegal, I have personally filed a complaint towards this behaviour for your team with the GTHL. Parents on this team are rude, foul mouthed, arrogant and spoiled when things don't go their way.

Your right the Refs love humber Valley. I wonder why?

You guys are all crazy. It's hockey. I hate losing to the sharks too but come on.

Complaining about the refs doesn't do any good. If you don't think they're doing a good job, get off you asses and get out there and do it yourself.

Some people juat aren't happy unless they have something to bitch about.

Face it, the Sharks are a good team, they have been for the last three years.

For Christ's sake, let the kids play and have fun.

HAHAHHAHAHAH.......Well said, premadona parents that is forsure. Remember no more taping HV hahahahhah

We played Humber Valley in the finals lst year. There was a mom on our team who was obsessed with stopping them from video taping. She phone the Gthl and the city and she couldn't stop them and believe me she tried. Most of the games were at city rinks. One of our kids scores in OT on his birthday. We asked for a copy and they gave us one.

I don't believe that, a Van. parent not getting what she wanted......

Leaside Parent

For all of you righteous parents who are concerned with someone videotaping your child playing a team sport in full equipment - I certainly hope that you don't allow him to wear a jersey with his last name on it and then other team apparel off the ice with a number on it. You have just identified your child for every child offender out there!! Are you a hypocrite???

The Sharks have all the answerws.

All you worry worts, just think if "A" moves up, the Select team won the City last year and could easily slide in and be a middle of the pack "A" team without any problem.
I don't think they own a video camera yet!

For sure if "A" moves up or out, they will leave the video camera behind and buy a new one!
That would be the noble thing to do, so the new team would be hated from the start!

Get a life people, get over it, this is kid's hockey!

Did Bernardo use that excuse?

What did kid's hockey have anything to do with Bernado and his excuses.
I think you should enjoy the season as the Prozac has not kicked in yet, or maybe the concussion from last season has not healed!

Have a great weekend!

q

Most teams have 3 levels of players. Those top few that may be able to play up a level. Those in the middle who are average players who contibute at their level. And the bottom players who could either deveope into the middle by season end or who may drop down a level next year.

Teams like the sharks have all their players at the top level and that is why they are doing so well but, how many other teams can claim that?

That is the truth if you want to believe it and it pertains to most teams.

Whatever Bruce

My son plays on another A team in the loop and we've played the Sharks.

They are a good team. I think that they are a bit rough and do get away with one too many illegal hits but never the less are well disiplined and a good team.

I've read allot of the comments here and on other team threads. It's not surprising that there's parents out there that are against video taping of games. Our world is changing and the age of political correctness is emerging. I continually tell my son that if he were to do half the things that I did at his age that he'd be taken away from us and be in a foster home some where. I'm not saying that I was a total delinquent but let's face it. What you can get away with 30 years ago as a parent or kid is far more than what is tolerated today. The theme today is all about personal rights and lawsuits if you don't comply.

I too can't believe that there's actually a legitimate discussion going on here about video taping a hockey game. lol. It just goes to prove the lack of intelligence on behalf of some and the stupidity of others. Things have to be put in perspective here. I don't know how you can link the taping of a hockey game to sexual deviance. I'd understand issues surrounding the taping of kids in the locker rooms but that's about it. I personally video tape every game that I go to. I also email the team asking if anyone wants copies and to bring me a spare CD to burn our games onto. They are really appreciative. I'm even putting together a "greatest hits, plays, saves" CD for end of year. I'm going to add some great music to it plus some funny pics and comments. It'll be a great momento for the kids to have.

So I guess if you want to see who I am just look for the guy with the video camera at the rink. Oh and if you are against me taping your kid then that's too bad. I really feel sorry for you and your kid if you really think that what I'm doing is wrong.

To be honest you've got real issues to deal with and my advice to you is to seek professional help.

cheers,

Buddy...let me explain to you that if you're video taping is legitimate then I am happy for you. The privacy laws that are out there are there to protect us against people who do this for sinister reasons.
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