Sor-ry Brian, but you did ask for it, and anyway it appears that there are no Kosbab's out there who are interested in their Roots, other than ourselves. So why shouldn't we have fun. By the wya, have you put our GEDCOM onto RootsWeb yet. I would but as your the expert in matters computereze, I think you should be the one to do it. If you don't want to or more likely don't have the time, then let me know and I will see if I can do it.