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Whats wrong with following the blueprint?

November 7 2009 at 11:16 AM
Louis Shammah  (Login chammah)

 
What foundation did you build on? Louis

 
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To answer your question

November 7 2009, 11:35 PM 

You asked:

"What foundation did you build on?"


Just like everyone else, I believed I built my house on a firm foundation.

When the house came down, the pain was bad, but I was ok with it because by that time I had become a hard-core believer and I believed it was all God's work. I then set about to build my new house, but I tried to build it on my old foundation.

Then The Lord sent His demolition crew to jackhammer my old foundation into rubble. I fought Him every step of the way.

My core beliefs were embedded in that foundation - these were irrefutable truths and there was no way I was going to give them up. However, there was no stopping the demolition, and as I went through my own personal hell, the old foundation was eventually demolished.

The most difficult things I had to give up were my religious beliefs. I couldn't see it at the time, but as I reflect back, I see those those old religious beliefs as satan's srongholds, and I am so grateful to The Lord for setting me free.

Thanks for asking that question Louis - It brought out a testimony of how wonderful are the Works of GOd.







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Louis Shammah
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Bob, I hope

November 8 2009, 7:44 AM 

You left, "we are built on the apostles and prophets. Jesus Christ the Chief cornerstone." L.S.

 
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Louis

November 8 2009, 8:57 AM 

Louis, you said:

Bob, I hope You left, "we are built on the apostles and prophets. Jesus Christ the Chief cornerstone."

Rebuilt only by The Lord Louis - no more listening to men, no matter what title they may claim. They are the ones who led me astray.






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I've heard that song before, Bob

November 8 2009, 2:42 PM 

Me personally, I my religion hasn't reached the place yet that I don't need a preacher in my life, for, Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? I'm certainly glad to have a preacher in my life I can trust. It must be terrible only trusting in one's self. Louis

 
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Louis

November 8 2009, 3:02 PM 

Louis,

No need to get your shorts in a knot. I was just relaying my my own personal experience and how God set me free from the preaching of men and the bondage of religion.

I am not suggesting this is God's plan for you or anyone else.

Remenber Louis - you did start this thread with a question.


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Why do I ahve to have my shorts in a knot. Bob

November 8 2009, 4:31 PM 

I remember I did start this with a question. And the only blueprint I know of is the apostles doctrine. The Bible does say we are built on them with Jesus Christ the Chief cornerstone. I guess you had nothing in mind when you said you had been delivered from following men, right? Well, pardonme if you were singing a different song. Perhaps you will explain.
I think Jackie and I had the same problem. Louis

 
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Problem is

November 8 2009, 3:04 PM 

How are you going to get along after you die? As far as I know, there are no preachers on the other side.

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Re: Problem is

November 8 2009, 5:41 PM 

How do you know there are none???? Ever been there??????????

Luv In Christ
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And he said unto them. Take heed what ye hear; with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given. For he that hath, to him shall be given; and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath. (MK 4:24-25)

 
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Sandy

November 8 2009, 6:12 PM 

There are no preachers in God's Kingdom.




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Re: Sandy

November 8 2009, 6:47 PM 

Did Jesus teach others to preach and teach?

Acts 5:42 (KJV)
And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.

I sure seems that the apostles did not cease to teach and to preach Jesus Christ. Has the kingdom came since then?

Mark 16:15 (KJV)
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Preach the gospel. The word preach is used 50 times; preached 61 Times; preaching 27 times; preacheth 3 times; preachest 1 Time; and preacher 11 Times.ds






 
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Wrong Bob, Jay is right Need to read again

November 8 2009, 7:40 PM 

And that was even the words of Jesus too.

You see, you are unbalanced concerning what your believing to far over to the one side, not recognizing the other, so you can be be standing upright.

At least that is the picture God gave me about being in the condition written about in Pr. 11:1 anyways. Telling me to also imagine my walking like that too.

You need to get a balance Bob, before you topple all the way over, no longer being able to walk at all anymore.

I am really serious, the Lord did show me that, and the Word verifies it too.

Of course, it is also true, you can be unbalanced the other way too naturally. Where you listen to everyone without seeking the Holy Ghost for confirmation too, Like in the Word. but there you are also unbalanced because of picking and choosing what to believe written in there too, come to think of it Bob. Since you refuse to receive anything that Paul wrote as well, as if it was different than any of the others said too.

Just saying what I do see because I do love you, truth also being a part of love. That be the part that many of us do not like, true. But true none the less.

That was kind of the story behind my new cyber space Texas friend was talking about from Galveston I recieved from him today, come to think of it.

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And he said unto them. Take heed what ye hear; with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given. For he that hath, to him shall be given; and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath. (MK 4:24-25)

 
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You said I am unbalanced

November 8 2009, 7:43 PM 

Who told you?


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Re: You said I am unbalanced

November 8 2009, 8:35 PM 

Bob. Actually you and the Word did according to the words of your own mouth this time. Just as Jesus stated we could know what was in the heart of another. in what He said in Mt. Matthew chapter 15. Definitely not telling you this for myself for sure.

You know I am not saying we are not to listen to the Spirit as often as I speak of it. But you are denying that the Spirit can speak thru man. When Jesus said He could do so. Not just in the gospel either, but in the writings of Paul that agree with the gospels. I am not telling you this to make you angry either. But simply to tell you what I do see truthfully your having said quite often by your own words.

And can tell that most likely you are angry by what you are accusing in your above post.

So will say no more, except to say, it is really time people do get right with the Lord, myself included. And especially in light of what it does look like is going on today all over the world. Time may be drawing to a close now. All of us most likely needing to repent of something.

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Thanks for setting the example

November 8 2009, 8:40 PM 

Maybe if I follow your lead I will become as good a judge of people as you are.


 
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Re: Thanks for setting the example

November 8 2009, 9:17 PM 

Bob, you need to know what one can judge and what one cannot. I am only judging what I see you saying is all. And if that be wrong, then I shall repent.

But it says in 1st Cor. 6:
2: Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3: Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4: If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5: I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

Do you deny what I have said be true? If so, then I will repent of misjudging you. But you yourself have stated what you believe to be true, even though the Word has been shared here concerning your being in error in this area.

And Jesus tells us we can judge another by their words, along with judging righteous judgment.

Nobody is saying you are going to hell in a handbasket either. Just saying you are unbalanced, not being perfected yet, and needing to get a balance. and only because of you saying these things yourself. Not just once, but over and over and over again since we met on Kristys forum, have you not?

So yes, I am judging you. But only by what you have proclaimed yourself many times over. And I don't see that misjudging anyone.

This idea that we cannot do this when another states that is what they believe as if we are not to ever judge anything is just not true.

True, we are not to judge another unjustly. That is true. You cry do not judge me, but you fail to say why and where you are being misjudged Bob.

Nor are you the only one being judged here at all either. Nor am I doing all the judging either. But often are being the one being judged instead. Well certainly not the only one either for sure. I see many being judged all the time, justly and possibly unjustly too.

You just judged me yourself for that matter, come to think of it. But oh well. I will consider I am doing wrong, if you will do so also according to the Word of God of course, and not what we think. Deal?

Well I will anyway, whether you do or not. But thought that deal was fair at the same time.


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Re: Thanks for setting the example

November 8 2009, 10:01 PM 

I am judging you for judging me for judging you for judging me.

You judged me first so you win the chief judging prize. However I claim the chief hypocrite prize for being first to accuse you of judging me.



BTW, it is a complete waste of time quoting Paul to me. I am not the least bit interested in the intellectual ramblings of another ego-driven man.



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Re: Thanks for setting the example

November 8 2009, 11:18 PM 

'I am judging you for judging me for judging you for judging me. '

I'll give you fifty bucks if you can say that fast 5 times hahaha. (I can't do it twice without laughing)

 
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I might have left out a couple of rounds

November 8 2009, 11:24 PM 

When Jesus says we must become as children, i don't think he means we should become childish happy.gif



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Re: Thanks for setting the example

November 8 2009, 11:29 PM 

G--When I say it fast --- I get "fudge " instead of judge.

I lose --- at least I am used to that.


No biggie.

Fudge...well - I happen to like fudge
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hahaha

November 9 2009, 12:55 AM 

fudge.....hehe.....

 
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Bob!

November 9 2009, 9:17 AM 

Well I never.......happy.gifhappy.gif

And I just bought A Very Short Introduction to Paul as well. Oh well, in the bin it goes....wheeeeeeeeee!!!!!

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Jackie

November 9 2009, 7:12 PM 

Even before you have read it to decide for yourself???

No wonder you disagree with me and others on Jesus Christ being truly what it says in John 14:
6: Jesus saith unto him, I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE: NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER, BUT BY ME.

7: IF YE HAD KNOWN ME, YE SHOULD HAE KNOWN MY FATHER ALSO: AND FROM HENCEFORTH YE KNOW HIM, AND HAVE SEEN HIM.

Speaks volumns right there, and that was not Pauls writings but was Johns. Jesus the Christ telling us there is not many ways to Father God after all.

Read the book of John if you have not thrown the Bible away too Jackie.

It also says in John 3:

16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17: For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

19: And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

20: For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

21: But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

22: After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.



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I don't see anyone judging you and the fact you cannot see the differences...

November 8 2009, 11:14 PM 

says a lot Sandy.

YOU commonly talk about the person....their relationship with \jesus...their 'balance' etc.....


most others....want to discuss actions....like for example, the wisdom of continually posting things not properly researched....etc....or if voting and taking part in government in godly etc.....

THAT is issue oriented, not person oriented......


you should evaluate and try to \undrstand what a oerson is saying....\noit JUGE what they are saying.....that is foolish for you do not know a person's heart no matter what you think or how wise you seem to think you have become sandy.

it5 is sad to see you have gone down this path. I hope you evaluate your actions and spirit on this matter. If not...your choice.

but i tell you that you cannot always be right and most likelye, you are like everyone else....who is usually less correct than correct......no matter how good your intentions may be.

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Re: I don't see anyone judging you and the fact you cannot see the differences...

November 9 2009, 7:26 PM 

Gerard,

Have you considered you are jumping me as well as some others most likely for correcting Bob about something we believed we saw him doing?

Yet it is ok for you to correct Striver, Roy, Nucc and all others you have disagreed about what they were saying and doing yourself?

That is something like calling the kettle black, having one just as black isn't it?

I mean, it is fine for you and even bob and anyone else here to do so certainly if they do see me doing something wrong. I am not saying it isn't.

Oh wait a minute. I get it.

You are one that believes in doing what I say and not as I do.

Yea, that is probably it I betcha.

Ok. Understood. happy.gif

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poor you sandy?????

November 9 2009, 9:03 PM 

unlike YOU i am talking about ATTITUDES AND ACTIONS AND THINGS SAID.......You see it as a personal thing why>


because you have to.

What have i said about YOU sandy.....havre i ...unlike you....to me and others....talked about not know...really knowing \jesus??? ....OR


have I talked about your errant posting of things you have not looked into......WHICH YOU DID and cannot admitt.....with humility....or about how you are judging others....? and this in not just my view alone????


YOU speak on people...even to the point because i disagreed with you asking me like a pouty child to take you off my modeerator list...which had NOTHING to do with anything on my forum and further shows a lot.....


ylou need to look at yourself here.

imv.


you have tried very hard to not address what i have talked about.....posting things over and over shown to be bogus.....etc.....and try to make it like a pity party in that YOU are being attacked???


that dog don't hunt.

self pity here sandy.....i believe strongly that I have been fair on what things I have said....and they were not personal.....i DO believe one cannot serve two masters....you do....and YOU admitt over and over politics always ends up failing...yet you continue to not be separate from this error but continue to engage in it....and YOu keep posting things that suit your political views....which are not the truth.....


No?? this is unfair??

only YOU chose to take personal insult and offence to this....without ever showing i am being unfair and casting false wittness......

only YOU show anger and personal offence to all this....yet you claim I am somehow doing some cybil thing with you??? YOU show where i have ever ever ever been inconsistent on my beliefs on what I have spoken with you....

JUST ONE TIME sandy.


then you will not yet again....be showi8ng to be fleshy and unfair to me here.

this is completely your anger, personal problem and you making this...because I disagree on things.....an ATTACK???????????????????????????????


well sorry but the proof is not there.

the only proof shows the opposite.

very disappointed in you here in all this ....in you inability to just take opposition and views that differ from yours...AND that is....all it comes down to.


YOU make it all the things you said and see it as.....only you.


One day i am mr. bro....mr thanks for making me moderator.


almost a couple days later i am attack8ing you....off your thanks this and don't know jesus etc....


when.....my views are the same as they have been


again YOu show a lack then to look into things.


very very fleshy. no matter how you want to make this something personal

 
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Gerard, before I go, ever wonder why I avoid you?

November 9 2009, 9:12 PM 

Well, I have learned that your only purpose is to be disagreeablle. Not once have I saw you engage anyone without getting sideways with them. You're an expert at it, and we go a long way back. As a matter of fact I was banned for three days on Marge's forum over my conversation with you. ANd, that is one reason I stopped posting on her forum. She claims to be Spirit filled.
Andway, I just wanted you to know. Tootle-do. Louis

 
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Re: Gerard, before I go, ever wonder why I avoid you?

November 9 2009, 9:43 PM 

Louis drop by Salt & Light and shed some light as you see it.

 
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Re: Gerard, before I go, ever wonder why I avoid you?

November 9 2009, 9:58 PM 

i would find it suprosing to find him go there and be edifying.
It would be a pleasent surprise. Sadly if he did.....all he would talk about is how others are this and that how they are NOT this and not that.

i would like to be pleasently surprised too.


sadly Louis gets a free pass...which doesn't help him.

 
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Gerard your right if your speaking of poor me regarding what Jesus said in Mt. 5:3

November 10 2009, 2:23 AM 

You do not find anyone edifying that disagrees with you about much of anything for very long Gerard.

Because you cannot deal with very much adversity at all. Yet still maintain a love of others anyway. Which is why you do what you do, and have been doing it ever since I have known you. Then you go around later asking everyone to forgive you.
And since the last time you asked me to do so, I have began to think about this, and wondering why you are doing so. Coming to the following conclusion about this issue, at least in my case, whether anyone elses or not.

The truth is, you don't need to ask me to forgive you for anything, even if you did something wrong. Why? Because I already have, that is why

So please don't do so with me anymore, but instead take it to the Lord after this, if you feel you have done something wrong towards me. As He is the one that matters. Not me for sure. As I am just a human being with unclean flesh just like anyone else. And because of knowing the hazards of what unforgiveness of heart can do to anybody, I searched and have found the way to walk in it at all times now, thru Christ. So therefore I don't need for anyone to ask me, whether it be you or anyone else for that matter. What I have concluded is that if someone does truly feel they need forgiveness for anything, they need to take it to the Lord not me anymore. So while I cannot speak for anyone else here, but myself. I am going to ask you to please do not come asking me anymore, as you do not need to. Repent to him instead.

OK. And thanks ahead of time for at least respecting that one request from me whether you do any others or not.

And am praying God does bless you too and your beautiful wife too. As well as your beautiful Mother as well. who is a lot more saavy than you sometimes seem to possibly give her credit for being. At least it seems that way to me anyway.

As for getting into the crap that has gone on before between us Gerard, thanks, but no thankyou. I am going to take Louis advise, and avoid you when you do get into one of these moods or whatever the heck they are.

Luv In Christ
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again...yet AGAIN....you focus on ME

November 10 2009, 9:11 PM 

on not the issues.

says it all.

only YOU make/have this a personal issue.

for me....you love me as long as i am silent in what I believe....oh i am mr wonderfuyl brother then lol.



I am, not angry or think anything personal here....only you do. as to why you eep focusing on ME and not showing how wrong what i have SAID is.

all your rheotric and self serving use of scripture cannot wash that away.

 
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and the fact you let Louis get away

November 10 2009, 9:13 PM 

with saying what he does to people...only because you doctrinally agree with him shows much too imv.

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Nice personal attack there Louis.

November 9 2009, 9:55 PM 

And you are free to avoid whomever you choose....but like \i also said to Sandy.....you need to look in the mirror and ask and evaluate your OWN attitudes and behavour then.....


in MY view....

and as i also said to her.....show anywhere any inconsistency in my beliefs \i show on these issues.

ONLY then can you make a claim i am ONLY being disagreeable and NOT standing to what I believe.....if you can show I am a hypocrite or believing one thing one day and another another day ONLy of course to be disagreeable.

YOU like many, find offence because I have many times....mostly at Marge's spoke to you about your critical spirit and constant whining and complaining about what others believe and how you judge others.

and Louis.....instead of dissing Marge...how about YOU......if YOu are a so called spirit filled being.....where and what are YOUR fruits before you go judging anothers.

Yes...even here....an ADMITTED parting shot a diss to me as you leave.....shows your carnality Louis and your immaturity.

I do not care what you personally think of me or anyone else...and I ask you and demand you not talk to me about others like you just did with me about \Marge.

it is wrong and hypocritical of you.


get your OWN house in order Louis.....


but is it funny how others get called unbalanced here and YOU get a free pass.....well not funny.....shameful really.

I do not personally dislike you and if you avoid people who say things they believe and they think are the right things only because they may be uncomfortable to you....

again.....you need to pray a lot on that and decide what you really are doing on ANY of these forums.

sad Louis and unfortunately not unexpected.

I am sure, you will get applause and 'thadda boys' from the same type of people who want agreement.....when they should be looking at the problem you have on these forums...and how you are so quick to judge and so unlikely to be humble and truly do unto others as you would want them to do unto you.


if you did follow this....unfortunately you wouldn't be posting that parting insult post to me...but would be telling me what A GREAT guy and how spiritual iu am...SEEEEEING as that apparently is what you wpould want done unto you.

sorry....i cannot do that. undeserved.

You are a good guy imv....but an angry man who thinks everyone but you has a nchannel to the Lord...and god knows there are enough of these types on these forums.

so ...okay see ya Louis. Best you leave imv.....i will....still pray for you and ask you to do same for me.

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Re: Thanks for setting the example

November 8 2009, 10:58 PM 

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Just my critical spirit coming out

November 8 2009, 10:59 PM 

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Re: Just my critical spirit coming out

November 8 2009, 11:03 PM 

HAHAA

stop it...you maken me wafff....wink.gif

 
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Mine too. LOL

November 9 2009, 7:27 PM 



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Re: Sandy

November 8 2009, 7:42 PM 

You made the following comment and question"

"I sure seems that the apostles did not cease to teach and to preach Jesus Christ. Has the kingdom came since then?"


I can quote the bible too - What do you think these verses are saying?

MAT 10:6 But gorather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
MAT 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

MAR 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

MAR 9:1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.

LUK 9:27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.

LUK 10:9 And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.

LUK 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
LUK 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.






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Re: Sandy

November 8 2009, 7:53 PM 

Where does is say to stop preaching and teaching...

Bob it seems your reference of The Time is Fullfilled is for:

1. The coming of the Messiah (Gen. 3:15; Dan. 9:24-26; Isa. 9:6-7)

2. The fullness of time (Gal. 4:4-6)

3. The last dispensation or probationary period before God takes over the kingdoms of this world (Mt. 13; Mat. 24-25; Rev. 11:15; 19:11-21; 20:1-10)

4. The final opportunity for Israel to prove herself worthy of God's trust (Mt. 21:43; Rom. 9 -- Rom. 11)

5. The fullness of grace and truth (Jn. 1:16-17; 1Pet. 1:10-12)

6. The times of ignorance of God to cease (Acts 17:30)

7. The kingdom of heaven to be offered (Mt. 3:2; 4:17)

8. The full demonstration of the kingdom of God among men (Mt. 12:28; Acts 10:38; Jn. 10:10; 1Cor. 4:20)

9. The acceptable year of God (Isa. 61:1-2; Lk. 4:16-21; Jn. 10:10)

10.The building of a church of both Jews and Gentiles (1Cor. 12:13; Eph. 2:14-15; 3:1-6)

11. Evangelization of the world (Mt. 28:19-20; Mk. 16:15-20; Lk. 24:47; Acts 1:4-8; 10:43)

12. Blotting out of the old covenant (Col. 2:14-17).

Repent Ye....This was the message of John (Mt. 3:2), Jesus (Mt. 4:17), the apostles (Mt. 10:7-10; Mk. 6:7-13), and the gospel preachers following them. It was not to be for Jews or the early church days only (Lk. 13:1-5; Acts 2:38-39; 3:19; 17:20; 19:8; 20:25; 28:23,31; 1Cor. 4:20).

 
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Jay
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Re: Sandy

November 8 2009, 8:00 PM 

Luke 9:27 (KJV)
27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.


Well this literally happened, for about eight days afterward Christ was transfigured before them, as He would be in the kingdom of God the verses of confirmation follow...(Lk. 9:28-35; Mt. 16:28 -- Mt. 17:8; Mk. 9:1-8; 2Pet. 1:16-18).

Continue to read the rest of the verses Bob this is the Transfiguration.



 
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Vince
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So the question is

November 8 2009, 9:24 PM 

WHAT ....... is there to teach and preach?

The kingdom is coming? Hasn't everyone heard that already?

What else is left to teach and preach?

The doctrines of men?

Ultimately, when you've finished preaching that the kingdom is coming and the doctrines of men, there is nothing else left, is there?

I think this is why Christians quibble and fight so much. They've absolutely exhausted their sources of preaching and teaching and ........turned to fighting about who is right about their preachings and teachings.

Other than that, there is only speculation left about what is supposed to happen and how soon and .............. to bellyache about the awful condition of the world.

-Vince

 
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AmConvinced
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No you are very wrong Vince

November 9 2009, 7:39 PM 

People that are His disciples are not bothered by one doing this ever.

What the problem is, those that are not true brethren are.

You are seeing thru the eyes of the world, rather than thru the eyes of Christ evidently. Whereas you would be able to see the love brethren have for one another, even when they do quibble or even vehemently disagree Vince. Gotta be in the family before you can see these thing be true. Recognizing that love of other brethren never really stops flowing even then. In fact, it is the mortar that holds the body of Christ together in the first place, just in case you don't know. You know what mortar is don't you?

I know that when Paul and Barnabus went their own way, they still had this mortar holding them together in that body even though they did part company because of a disagreement. Want to know how I know. Because they were both in the body I believe. So therefore, it had to be there, that is how. Even though the Bible never says anything about it, they loved one another anyway.



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EXCEPT THE LORD BUILD THE HOUSE, THEY LABOUR IN VAIN THAT BUILD IT, EXCEPT THE LORD KEEP THE CITY, THE WATCHMAN WALKETH BUT IN VAIN. (Pr. 107:1)

 
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Louis Shamah
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You cannot. Sandy

November 9 2009, 8:58 PM 

Penetrate light that is dark, Snady. L.S.

 
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Bob
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Light always penetrates dark

November 9 2009, 10:34 PM 

There is no darkness deep enough to hide even a single candle. In fact, lights burn brightest in the deepest darkness.

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"Just another leper
in the colony"

 
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Sandy
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You are right there Bob

November 11 2009, 10:11 PM 

But will it stay, if the darkness does not want it to in the case of the one choosing to love darkness more than the light, is the question Bob?

19: And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20: For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21: But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

So yes, light shines the brightest when it is the darkest, but one has to come to the light of the truth that is there in that light also, or they will remain in the darkness according to what that scripture there says Bob.

Which is what the 70 that walked away did written in John chapter 6. They refused and took a hike.

Oddly too, just before that they were there when Jesus fed the 5000. their following Him after that. That is until the light got to bright for them, thier all leaving then. And the only ones left out of all of that bunch was 11 at the end. Not only that, there was only 120 in the upper room when it was all over with. Meaning out of all those that listened to Him during that time, very few was left. No wonder He said what He did in Mt. 7:14. Which should speak volumns. Because the truth is, most do go their own way, never finding HIS Way at all. Many just do not know it. Because they love darkness more than the light.




Luv In Christ
Sandy
EXCEPT THE LORD BUILD THE HOUSE, THEY LABOUR IN VAIN THAT BUILD IT, EXCEPT THE LORD KEEP THE CITY, THE WATCHMAN WALKETH BUT IN VAIN. (Pr. 107:1)

 
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Only by the Lord .

November 8 2009, 8:39 PM 

"Rebuilt only by The Lord ".

_______________________________
Reminds me of

Except the Lord build the house, they labour
in vain that build it: except
the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.-Psalm 127:1



Thanks for sharing , Bob. Have a great week !


With Love ...

from little sis'.


10 For as the rain cometh down,
and the snow from heaven,
and returneth not thither,
but watereth the earth,
and maketh it bring forth and bud,
that it may give seed to the sower,
and bread to the eater:

11 So shall my word be that goeth
forth out of my mouth: it shall not return
unto me void, but it shall accomplish
that which I please, and it shall prosper
in the thing whereto I sent it.
Isaiah 55


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(((((Julie)))))

November 8 2009, 8:42 PM 

Nice to see a friendly face. You are like an oasis in the desert.



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(((((((( BOB ))))))))

November 8 2009, 8:55 PM 

(((( Bob )))

The Lord bless thee,
and keep thee.


I believe your testimony.


To God be all the glory ,

Julie


 
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Louis Shammah
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Well, I've certainly learned something

November 9 2009, 7:09 AM 

everyone has their own blueprint. Louis

 
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Bob
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Louis

November 9 2009, 8:39 AM 

Thanks.



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Amen, Julie

November 9 2009, 1:31 PM 

Some of my favorite scripture passages there. All building is in vain except the Lord's. Who are we to judge what the Lord has done in another? I believe Bob's testimony,too. Mine might not sound so orthodox either, but the Lord and I know each other. My foundation fell as well but really what did remain was my faith in Christ and not religion as I had been taught of men. Christ is eternal and lives in my innermost being. That is why I could not let Him go. He did not let me go, even when I denied Him.

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'..................my faith is not in man but him who called me up out of darkness.'

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Thanks for that Marge

November 9 2009, 1:58 PM 

Great testimony

I do miss Lee






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that line

November 9 2009, 2:33 PM 

from lee I use in my siggy struck such a ture note in my own soul. no matter what any man may say, i'll trust in the one who pulled me up out of darkness.

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No letting go ...ever

November 9 2009, 4:36 PM 

Thanks for sharing , Marge.


Rejoicing with you always !!


Love,


Julie

 
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Louis Shamah
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Rejoicing with

November 9 2009, 9:05 PM 

those who have no faith in men of God? I'd much rather be rejoicing with them with a clean heart than rejoicing with those who hold ought in their hearts against them.
I have never ever met a person who claim's deliverance from Gods people who didn't have a spirit about them that could be kept hidden. Louis

 
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Rejoicing always , Louis -- Rejoicing always !!

November 10 2009, 6:17 AM 

The household of faith rejoices always -- because
of having faith and full trust in God , Louis.




Who is the only One
who can create in us a clean heart, Louis ?

11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy
spirit from me. 12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation;
and uphold me with thy free spirit. -- Psalm 51



You ended your post with "
I have never ever met a person who claim's
deliverance from Gods people who didn't have
a spirit about them that could be kept hidden. Louis "


Deliverance from God's people ?- Yes that's a new one for me too yet
I don't recall anyone writing such a comment except for you in your post above .

None are righteous .

Deliverance is not
from what other's
have done or from
those around us .



John 12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me,
believeth not on me,but on him that sent me.
45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.

Those who have faith in God ( which is a blessed gift from God ),believe Jesus.


Nothing is hidden from God - dear Louis-- not a thing -
and that is one of the many
reasons why the children
of God can always rejoice! Where the eyes and hearts of men
do fail - God sees and knows all and knows every heart . He is
the one to really know who has a clean heart as well ,
as that is His work alone.



Thanks for sharing what you did as it blessed me with a
wonderful study in the Word
in the quiet time of this new day .



Let God be Magnified,



Julie


 
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