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jv bash at vista
by "hollywood" hernandezit was nice to see we are back on track and wrestling hard again.
our young men came to wrestle and finished strong, good job wrestlers.
i would also like to thank the parents who showed up to support our team with cheer and food,you guys are great.
here is your medal count for the VISTA JV TOURNY
112 cossio 7th
125 pappe 5th
130 switzler 1st
130 mendoza 7th
152 daniels 3rd
160 grisafe 3rd
171 anderson 2nd
fyi
the last time they updated the team score,we were 4th.
i would also like to mention we did not have guys in the following weight classes 103/119/135/140/189/hvy.
GOOD JOB MAV WRESTLERS / MORE UPDATES TO FOLLOW
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Cucamonga Classic Results (Varsity).....
by Coach ButhTop 10 Results:
1. La Costa Canyon 206.5
2. Oxnard 192
3. Santa Ana 189
4. San Clemente 179.5
5. Segerstrom 118.5
6. Rancho Cucamonga 115.5
7. Charter Oak 105.5
8. Rim of The World 98
9. Los Osos 78
10 San Dimas 75.5
Individual results from La Costa Canyon:
103 lbs. Kyle Vanderschaaf 5th
130lbs. Nick Nelson 1st
135lbs. David Wood 1st
140lbs Ben Alei 3rd
145 Dustin Hernandez 1st
160 T. J. Webb 1st
171 Casey Schaffer 3rd
189 Taylor Cox 3rd
215 Shawn Foster 3rd
Hwt. Ude Cruz 8th
Good job...Go Mavs!!!
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Hotel Rooms for 5 Counties
by AnonymousI have rooms on hold for the 5 Counties Tournament which starts on Friday morning, January 18 and finishes up on Saturday, January 19 evening at Fountain Valley High School which is located in Fountain Valley, Ca. The boys will be staying with the team at a hotel in Huntington Beach.
Reservations have been made for 2 separate hotels for Friday, January 18 evening. One is a Marriott (where I have 9 rooms on hold) located less than a mile from the High School. The charge is $119 for a King bed with a sofabed or $139 for two Queen beds. Full Breakfast is an additional $10.99 per person. You can cancel as late as 6pm day of arrival in case your son doesn't continue on to the next day of the tournament.
The other hotel, Comfort Suites where I have 6 rooms on hold, is located in Huntington Beach which is about 3 miles from the High School. The charge for a King bed with a sofabed is 89.99 ($85.99 for AAA members) and includes a full breakfast. This hotel has a 24 hour cancellation which means that you won't be able to cancel your room on Friday evening if your son is out.
Please contact me by Wednesday evening, January 16 if you want a room as I will be cancelling all unclaimed rooms on Thursday, January 17 morning.
My e-mail is suewebb123@sbcglobal.net
Go Mavs!!!!
~Sue Webb
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Alumni Ryan Williams upsets Pat Pitsch to lead Cal Poly over ASU
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Great video of match
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T-Shirt Sponsors-Thank you!
by Anita AleiWrestlers and Fans: Please support these sponsors should you need these services and also take time to thank them for supporting LCC Wrestling by sponsoring T-shirt Give Away Night!!
Attention to Detail "ATD" Garage Door and Gate Company. Custom Installations and Repair, Dan Neely 760-591-9032 (Wrestler: Ben Lo Cicero)
AV Programming Associates, Inc
avprogramming.com
Matt Grisafe and Associates (Wrestlers: Joey and TJ Grisafe)
La Costa Chiropractic
lacostachiropractic.com
Dr. Michael Berry 760-438-9548
(Dr. Lee Wood, Wrestler: David Wood)
Provenwinners
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John and Julie Rader (Wrestler: Garrett Rader)
and also
Chipotle Mexican Grill
chipotle.com
For their concession donations during the wrestling season.
THANK YOU!!!
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Wrestling and Football as Complementary Sports
byWithout two athletes that decided to wrestle this year, it would have been difficult for LCC to be ranked 3rd in county. The LCC wrestling team should not have to "hope" to fill the upper weights every year. The coaching staff can develope excellent heavy weight wrestlers if given the opportunity to coach highly motivated football players. And the football team would benefit both from the physical aspects of wrestling but also the mental aspects.
As excellent as the coaching staff is at LCC, it's hard to compete at th county and state level without fielding a full wrestling team with all weights represented every year.
If this rumor is true, I think that the parents of both the wrestlers and football players should e-mail the athletic director and question whether this is a policy condoned by the school or is one coach protecting his self-interest at the expense of the other sports.
The e-mail address of the AD, John Labeta, is john.labeta@sduhsd.net. E-mail him if you have the same concerns as I do.
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I agree, but...
by anonymousI'm not saying that wrestlers don't need to watch their weight and attempt to get leaner for the season. Things aren't as crazy/dangerous (laxatives, plastic suits, etc) as they used to be, however, there is still a lot of pressure to "cut" weight and I think that has turned some kids away from the sport. They're tough but aren't willing to "suck-it-up" to the point where they suffer in other sports.
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Re: I agree, but...
by Brian AsamotoAlso, typically, the football players you need in the wrestling room are the heavier weights; 189, 214 and 275. Typically, these weights either don't have to cut weight or if they do, cutting 10-15 lbs is typically easier than for a middle weight.
Thirdly, the CIF within the last few years has significantly improved the certification for each weight class. This has been done specifically to deal with the main criticism of wrestling, cutting weight.
Cutting weight will always be a part of wrestling and it's what makes wrestling different from other sports. Each competitor from a size standpoint is equal. The difference is skill level, mental toughness, physical conditioning.
My message was only to make the parents of wrestlers aware of what may be happening in the athletic department at LCC which is making it difficult to compete at the state level.
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Come on!
by Don WilliamsThis issue of weight cutting is a myth perpetuated by some football coaches at LCC to get kids to buy into "You have to focus on football all year" hype. I have personally had numerous conversations with numerous football players and wrestlers. I have told many football players to just come out and wrestle at what ever weight they want. I have told others to lift and get big.
Examples:
I told Taylor Cox at the beginning of the season to get bigger and just go 189 (His natural weight) instead of 171. Cox decided to go 171. TJ Webb and I had a long discussion several weeks ago about weight. TJ wanted to drop to 145 where he certified at. I told him there was no reason to do it. I told him to just focus on getting better and stronger. TJ eventually agreed with me. I told Ben Alei I would like to see him get bigger in the off season and go 152 or 160 next year. I told Bryan Grubbs to just go 112 this year. Bryan chose to drop to 103. I told my own son (Ryan Williams) in 2004 to just wrestler his natural weight. Ryan wrestled 152 his senior year. He was 2 pounds under weight the second day of the state tournament. These are just a few examples of the LCC coaches telling kids not to cut any weight. There are a few kids in the room that NEED to lose weight (Me included). Dropping a few pounds will not hurt them.
Some kids choose to cut some weight because they think that they will be more competitive or they can't beat the guy in front of them at their natural weight.
Also, the football-lifting program at LCC and focusing "On getting bigger and stronger" is a joke. Those kids go up to the weight room and sit around and shoot the breeze for two hours. Very few actually lift the way they should. As a long-term football coach I will tell you that the football coaches at LCC (And most schools for that matter) do not recognize the benefit that wrestling provides to a football player. Standing around in the weight room does not make a better football player. Learning body control, positioning, balance, hand fighting skills, and conditioning makes a better football player. Football coaches who don't realize this are fools. I tell every one of my football players to wrestle because it makes a better football player. Sitting around and getting bigger (Translation: fatter) does an athlete no good. It does not improve their football performance or their health. No one has ever been asked to cut from 171 to 160 or 152 at LCC. We are always hurting for upper weights. Asked the kids how many times I have told them to get in the weight room and get bigger (They usually don’t listen). I have been coaching football for 17 years. I HAVE NEVER SEEN WHERE A PERSONS FOOTBALL PERFORMANCE WAS HURT BECAUSE THEY WRESTLED. In fact, just the opposite is true. Every football player I have seen wrestle increased their football performance the next year.
Wrestling is hard work. Most of the football players I know tell me that they don’t want to wrestle because “I don’t want to work that hard.” I don’t have a problem with that. But don’t blame it on the “Weight cutting.” I have also talked to numerous players who stopped wrestling to focus on football. I will tell you they are blowing smoke and making an excuse rather than just saying, “It is to hard or I just don’t like the sport.” Saying I don’t want to cut weight is an easy excuse and it continues to perpetuate the myth that these kids are forced to cut huge amounts of weight. The ones I have talked to just can’t make the varsity line up and think it is beneath them to wrestle JV (One player who wrestled last year and is using weight as an excuse not to wrestle this year plainly told me "I'm a varsity athlete, I am not wrestling JV." He is one of the former wrestlers who has told numerous people he wants to focus on football and not cut weight even though he has never cut weight. He is just making an excuse because he does not want to wait a year on JV.
There is not one single frosh or JV wrestler in the entire LCC program that cuts any weight. Most just wrestle their natural weight and have been told to do so. The problem is that some wrestlers egos are so big they don't think they should wrestle JV.
Some wrestlers on varsity do cut some weight. They tend to be in the lower weight classes. However, the entire team has been wrestling up from their certified weight all year. We have only been down to our certified weight one time this year at the Modesto tournament. Virtually EVERY LCC WRESTLER from 152 and above has been wrestling AT THEIR NATURAL WEIGHT ALL YEAR. One is wrestling 9 pounds over his natural weight. Will Mahoney wrestled this weekend two weight classes higher than his certified weight. Only a few of the kids below 152 are cutting any weight and this has more to do with them wanting to be on the varsity team and can’t make it at their natural weight. They are always given the option of wrestling JV if they are a junior or below. These are the facts. So for all you football players that read this, we need upper weights and we actively try to get them to come out. In the entire time I have been at LCC, I have not seen any football players asked to cut weight. Just the opposite has been the case. PLEASE COME OUT AS BIG AS YOU WANT!!!!
I hope it enlightens a few people on this forum. Should you have any questions about the LCC program, feel free to stop by the room and I will answer any questions you should have.
Don Williams
Assistant coach
LCC wrestling
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peer pressure
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More nonsense!
by Don Williams"Having talked to several good wrestlers who quit to focus on football, one of the key reasons they quit was weight. (I'm not saying it was the only reason) Football focuses on getting bigger and stronger and these kids felt that wrestling wanted them to get lighter at the expense of strength."
The insinuation is that football players quit or don't come out to wrestle because they have to lose weight. I am telling you that is a misinformed judgment based on your conversation with some alleged former wrestlers/football players. I am saying those wrestlers are full of it. I know of four wrestlers who wrestled last year at the JV level or higher, played football, and did not come back to wrestle this year. Not a single one of those kids cut any weight to wrestle last year. I know because I weighed them at the beginning of the season. All wrestled ABOVE their certified weight (Fully hydrated at 7 percent body fat). I talked to all four of those wrestlers. None quit because of weight. All did not come back because they could not beat the guys in front of them and did not want to wait their turn again at the JV level.
Provide me ONE example of a football player that was told by anyone (Coaches or peers) to cut to a certain weight class. You can't because it did not and does not happen. We have a ton of good lightweight and middle weight wrestlers. We need good upper weights. The coaches know this and so do the wrestlers. Ask current team members how we tell them to recruit football players from the school. Especially the upper weights. They tell the players they do not have to lose any weight. A 250 pound kid telling people he does not want to wrestle because he does not want to lose weight (Yes, this happened this year) is nonsense. What weight is he going to cut to? In fact, he can gain weight (Up to 285). This individual knew this but just used weight as an excuse instead of just telling everyone what he told me which was I don't want to work that hard. You are buying into a football myth perpetuated by a few coaches. You tell me the wrestlers you talked to and what weight they wanted to wrestle at. I guarantee you they just can't beat the current starters.
Most team members will tell you I am not as nice or diplomatic as Coach Buth. But they will also tell you I am a pretty straight shooter who holds people accountable. I call it the way I see it and I pull no punches. What you were told just is not factual and someone is feeding you a lot of nonsense. Feed it to the football coaches because it is not selling on this forum. Should you want to discuss this further, please feel to come by the room and I will answer anymore concerns you might have.
Don Williams
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Well said Don
by Capt. Hookbios. You will find particularly in the Midwest and East coast teams(any division) have an abundance of
talented "high school wrestlers" on their rosters. College coaches like real athletes and I can assure you wrestling on your resume puts you way ahead of the pack when you are trying to standout amongst your high school football peers.
Wrestlers are seen as "winners" and the coaches know they have a work ethic before they ever step on the field. It is an incredibly foolish staff that does not encourage competition. High school should be about getting your kids to the next level (any division) in any sport and it might not be the one that you coach them in high school. 99% of these kids will not be playing football at the next level. Football players are not made in the weight room that is a huge joke, they are made by competition and if they run from competition in the wrestling room they will run from competition on the field.
Go MAVS, Congrats to Buth and Don as I know some of your Maverick wrestlers were or are playing football in college. Are they there because of wrestling or in spite of it. I know they are there because of it.
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Re: Well said Don
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To Anonymous
by Brian AsamotoSo the real issue is that if we want to have state level athletic programs for all sports, let the athlete make the decision of which sport he wants to compete in.
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Wrestling and Football ARE Complementary Sports
byso this whole thing in all is a double edged sword. you have the kids who are too scared to even try wrestling and the parents who want their kids to get a scholarship in football. a very stupid mistake the parents make that the kids pay for in not only physical means but in the social sense. put and let your kids into an array of sports and let them play the ones they want. once they find those sports, like i did, you become willing to sacrifice to become better. i can literally write a 15 page paper on this topic because of my firsthand experience. what the football team is trying to do is get those kids that they have who do nothing else besides to be active year round for a reason. a lot of the parents and kids view that as PLAY FOOTBALL ONLY, hell NO! i'll leave ya'll with these last thoughts.
1) what is it called when you peak? 2) what happens when you peak? 3)how do you get past it? most importantly, 4) how do you avoid over training?
1) maxed out. 2)the body has reached is max for what stresses are put upon it. 3) CROSS TRAINING gets you past your max. 4) variation is key if the body only uses certain parts, they will hypertrophy while the others will atrophy. in the world of young athletes, multiple sports will promote overall body strength, performance, and health via the prevention of injuries from over trained and stressed routines thus forming what is referred to as the "total package" in slang terms.
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Mt Carmel Dual Meet
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Team Pictures.........
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Directions to Rancho Cucamonga tournament......
by Coach Buth2. Turn LEFT on CAMINO DE LOS COCHES - go 0.4 mi
3. Turn RIGHT on RANCHO SANTA FE RD(CR-S10 N) - go 4.5 mi
4. Bear RIGHT to follow CR-S10 N - go 0.2 mi
5. Bear RIGHT on W SAN MARCOS BLVD(CR-S12 E) - go 1.9 mi
6. Turn RIGHT to take ramp onto CA-78 E toward ESCONDIDO - go 4.2 mi
7. Take the RIVERSIDE exit onto I-15 N - go 80.8 mi
8. Take exit #112/FOOTHILL BLVD - go 0.4 mi
9. Turn LEFT on FOOTHILL BLVD(CA-66 W) - go 0.9 mi
10. Turn RIGHT on ROCHESTER AVE - go 1.8 mi
11. Turn LEFT on LARK DR - go 0.4 mi
12. Arrive at 11801 LARK DR, ALTA LOMA, on the LEFT
Distance: 95.5 milesTime: 1 hour 29 mins (approx.)
Reverse Directions Create Round Trip
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Grubbs article in the North County Times today 1/8........
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Re: Grubbs article in the North County Times today 1/8........
by AnonymousBy: TOM SHANAHAN - For the North County Times
Q: Have you seen the state championship medal won by your uncle, John, or by your La Costa Canyon coach, Dwayne Buth?
A: No. Coach Buth said he showed me his medal last year, but I don't really remember it. My uncle isn't a cocky guy, and he has his stuff put away. I've never really asked him about it.
Q: How much pressure do you feel to match your uncle's state title?
A: It's not really pressure on me. They didn't push me into the sport. I decided to do it on my own.
Q: When did you realize that you come from a wrestling family?
A: Around middle school, when I started getting into sports. In eighth grade, I asked my uncles and dad for help in wrestling.
Q: You don't see wrestling highlights on "SportsCenter." What are ESPN program directors missing about your sport?
A: Wrestling is a different sport, so a lot of people don't understand it. But I think if you watch it and pay attention, it's pretty exciting. If they tried to understand it, they'd find it more interesting.
Q: What sports do you like watching on TV?
A: When college wrestling is on TV, I like to watch that. I also like to watch the Chargers and the NFL.
Q: What's your favorite weekend wrestling invitational?
A: Last year we went to Reno (Nev.) for the Tournament of Champions. I liked it because it's a different state and we stayed in a hotel that's really cool. There were a lot of fans at the meet. It was almost like the state meet."
Q: You didn't place at your first state meet last year, but what did you learn from it?
A: I was really nervous because I had never been there before. I think I'll be more comfortable at state this time, and that will give me an advantage. I'll just try and wrestle like I always do.
Q: What's the toughest part about keeping your weight down?
A: Hanging out with friends who are eating whatever they want. That's a lot of temptation.
Q: What's your favorite thing to eat the day after wrestling season ends?
A: I like to eat ice cream.
Q: What do you like about competing for your high school team?
A: A lot of my friends on the wrestling team are cool to hang out with. It keeps me in shape and makes me work hard.
Q: What do you like about offseason wrestling competition?
A: It helps to get more experience, get more matches. They're fun to go to because you don't have worry about winning or losing. You just go out and wrestle. You can go out and work on things and learn from your mistakes.
Q: What was your best youth sport before you focused on wrestling?
A: I played baseball for a couple of years. I played second base and shortstop.
Q: Who is the biggest influence on your wrestling career?
A: I'd say my dad. He's really supportive. He takes me to a lot meets and helps financially with the cost of traveling and going to meets. He's always there for me if I win or lose.
Q: What's the best camp you've been to?
A: The La Costa Canyon team goes to the Camp of the Champions. Last year we went to two -- one in Riverside and one in Redlands.
Q: What's the most important thing you learned at camps?
A: The camps are pretty interesting, depending on the camp you go to. They teach you how to work hard, and that makes practice not as hard."
Q: Poway is such an overwhelming state and national power, virtually unbeatable for San Diego schools. What's the team's attitude when you face Poway?
A: Our coaches tell us we can win the dual meet, but in reality we know it's probably not going to happen. We know we have to wrestle our best. If we do that, then we know there isn't anything else we could have done. But there's not much you can do against them.
Q: What are your goals for the season?
A: I want to be a CIF Masters champion again and (I'm) hoping to place in the top three at state.
Q: What about matching the state title of your Uncle John or Coach Buth?
A: That's more of a long-term goal for me.
Bryan Grubbs
School: La Costa Canyon
Sport: Wrestling
Weight class: 112 pounds
Year: Sophomore
Born: April 3, 1992
Height: 5-foot-3
Accomplishments: Season record of 22-1 after winning the Jim Londos Tournament on Saturday at Orange Glen. Last year he was the CIF Masters champion at 103 pounds and a rare state-meet qualifier as a freshman.
Legacy: Grubbs' father, Michio, and uncles, John and Mike, were wrestlers at El Camino in the 1980s. John was a state champion in 1986 and 1987. Mike was an All-American at Cal State Fullerton as an NCAA fifth-place medalist in 1994.
Quick hits
Spaghetti or pizza? Pizza
Boxing or mixed martial arts? Mixed martial arts
Favorite movie: "Dumb and Dumber"
Favorite TV show: "Family Guy"
Favorite NFL player who was a college wrestler: Chargers fullback Lorenzo Neal
Comedy or action? Comedy
Favorite athlete: Cary Kolat (two-time NCAA wrestling champion at Penn State)
UCLA or USC? USC
In your iPod: I have a lot rock music, with Red Hot Chili Peppers and Metallica.
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Alumni Night - This Thursday, January 10th at LCC
by AnonymousPlease plan on attending Alumni Night this Thursday, January 10. We would love to see you and your family.
More information to come over the next few days so keep an eye out on the forum.
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westview
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Varsity starts at 7pm!
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see you there
by jason pettineoh and thank you for the concern mr. webb. my leg is feeling a lot better, i dont have to use the cane anymore but im still waiting for the results from the mri to see if i need surgery. (very unlikley)
see you guys soon.
good luck.
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Alumni Night
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T-SHIRT NIGHT: First 250 Fans get t-shirts this Thursday.....
by Coach ButhThe match is against Westview!!
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Londos write-up in Sunday paper
by Carlsonwww.nctimes.com/articles/2008/01/07/sports/highschool/22_52_001_5_08.txt
Great job Mavs!
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SAN CLEMENTE J.V / FROSH
by COACH HERNANDEZFIRST I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE WRESTLERS THAT WENT TO THIS TOURNY.
LET ME TELL YOU,THERE WAS SOME GOOD WRESTLING GOING ON.
THIS IS YOUR MEDAL COUNT FOR THE SAN CLEMENTE JV/FROSH TOURNY.
119 B. TAYLOR 6TH
125 PAPPE 6TH
130 R.MENDOZA 5TH
135 M.CURRAN 7TH
145 B.LAFARO 3RD
152 J.DANIELS 1ST GOOD JOB JOE TWO IN A ROW
171 C.ANDERSON 3RD
WHEN I FIND OUT THE TEAM STANDING,THEY WILL BE POSTED THANX
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Congratulations
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When will results and other info be updated!?!?
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Complete Londos results
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Cal Poly 22 University of Oregon 15
by Don Williams125 Micah Ferguson (CP) 3-0 dec over Joey Lucas (UO)
133 Ryan Dunn (UO) 5-2 dec over #17 Filip Novachkov (CP)
141 #3 Chad Mendes (CP) by forfeit
149 Eric Maldonado (CP) 7-4 dec over Jeremy McLaughlin (UO)
157 #10 Chase Pami (CP) 15-3 maj dec over Cody Moulton (UO)
165 Ryan Williams (CP) 5-4 dec over Kyle Bounds (UO)
174 Zach Frazier (UO) by fall 4:30 over Mike Williams (CP)
184 Ron Lee (UO) 4-0 dec over Ernie Varela (CP)
197 Arturo Basulto (CP) 3-1 dec over Shaun Dee (UO)
HVY Charlie Alexander (UO) 3-1 dec over Jim Powers (CP)
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LCC 11 in quarters, one in consolations after day 1....
by LCC FanGrubbs
Locicero
Reyes
Nelson
Wood
Alei
Hernandez
Randall
Webb
Schafer
Cox
There are some tough quarter final matches coming up in the morning!!
Go Mavs!!!
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& Argualles is battling back in consos..
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Cal Poly 12 West Virginia 24
by Don Williams133 – Tyler Oravec (WV) dec #17 Filip Novachkov (CP) 6-4
141 – #3 Chad Mendes (CP) inj def Brandon Rader (WV)
149 –David Jauregui (WV) dec Eric Maldanado (CP) 5-4
157 – #10 Chase Pami (CP) #16 dec Zac Fryling (WV) 5-3
165 –Ryan Williams (CP) dec Donnie Jones (WV) 3-2
174 – Chance Litton (WV) fall Evan Barbre (CP) 2:50
184 –Kurt Brenner (WV) dec Yuri Kalika (CP) 10-3
197 – #14 Jared Villers (WV) dec Arturo Basulto (CP) 8-1
Hwt – #8 Dustin Rogers (WV) dec Jim Powers (CP) 11-4
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