yea oscar igloo had way better predictions than this dung heap of a site, bring back johnny alba

Hey GiGi is your real name Gertrude?

I come on the Message Board daily to see what everyone is chatting about and so forth. I want to address something. In regards to the predictions, everything at this point is a guessing game. No one can write on this board or anywhere and say "something is definitely going to happen" or "it will be the most nominated film of the year" if the films haven't even come out or been screened by any critics.

I apologize that you don't agree with my predictions and that they are not satisfying to you but at this point, we're all having fun with them. Looking out for surprises, buzz, or whatever else may happen.

If you believe me to be so bad at predictions maybe you should pay a visit to the ARCHIVE and check the final predictions from last year, both nominations and winners. I'm not saying I had the best track record of any site out there but I feel it was decent enough to call myself an Oscar predictor.

Exactly what do you disagree with so highly with the site that Johnny did so differently? Not saying Johnny wasn't good but he was my mentor for the entire first year of myself becoming editor so I'm molded much to his liking along with my own personal strengths and ideas.

I feel people become so hostile on the Message Board but there is no solid justification for someone's way of thinking other than "I just didn't put what they wanted."

I would like a more relaxed, friendly, and chill atmosphere on the Message Boards. Is that possible? I value all of your opinions and if you state them in a more positive manner, you will receive more of a warm reaction and feedback.

Are there any ideas or requests that some readers feel we are not meeting? Please let us know here or write me personally @ claytondavis@awardscircuit.com

Clay

For me the the two biggest differences between the Oscarigloo and Awardscircuit is that the latter is more frequently updated and more interactive with more oppurtunities for the readers, which are both very positive things.

The problem is most of the regulars from as far back as 05-06 like myself eish that this site went back to mainly being about Oscars and Oscars alone, it's great if you guys wanted to branch off to include tv or theatre or music awards but its the Oscars that brought us all to the igloo in the first place. It's the oscar race that lasts year round. I can only speak for myself but I am sure I'm not the only one annoyed that the site puts more analysis on general entertainm,ent news and articles rather than articles pertaining mainly to the Oscars, not American Idol, or the Grammy's or The Emmy's. Many people, myself included were also disturbed about what happened to the Oscar bait contest which was a huge part of the site before the switch. After the switch the contest slowed to a stand still, went on hiatus and eventually had to be branched off using a new site because of the issues here. I dont know about anyone else but that upset me, as Oscar baiting was a great source of enjoyment for myself, my dearly departed best freind and writing partner Wes Freeman and many others who no longer use this site. All I really want is to see the Oscar igloo come back in some way that resembles it's former self. I'm all for change but the Awards circuit has just been a disapointment thus far for myself. It also in a way forced me to start my blog The Oscar Hut, which may not be on the level of other Oscar blogs or even this site, but got me new oppurtunities as far as screenings and festivals where I've been able to keep my finger on the pulse of Oscar buzz year round unlike this site which used to be just like that.
Thats all

Personally, I really like what has been done with the site, I always liked Igloo but I actually prefer Awards Circuit, mainly because of things such as the ACCA awards and such. The site is much more...interactive for regulars like me, I check the blog like 5 times a day. And they have all the most important news there that we need to know, I only follow films I really really am anticipated for super closely so sometimes when it comes to things like Inglourious Basterds, I already knew it but on a broad scale, it is a great, fast and easy way to stay updated on whats important to us film lovers and I don't have to google every movie, only the ones I;m obsessing over (i.e. Basterds)My only two quibbles are that I think the writers should be a little more involved in the message boards, and comments on the blog (Joey and Keith comment a lot but the others don't seem to) and that the prediction updates (I know its early on) should still be updated a little more regularly. I mean no site is perfect, but the bottom line is I still come to the site several times a day, and enjoy it, and getting into discussions with people on the blogs and message boards(its much better then IMDb's boards). Naturally not everyone agrees with the predictions, but people are just way too harsh, as Clayton has said its early on and we don't know anything. People thought I was crazy in 2007 when I saw The Dark Knight trailer and called it then that it was gonna be a contender. I enjoy the site very much, it has become a part of my daily routine and gotten me more into this kind of stuff(I started my own blog last year), Joey, Clayton and all, you're doing great!

July really isnt all that early, Sundance and Cannes have already and gone leaving us with a few truly viable contenders like they do every year. Also, we have seen a Pixar masterwork, an amazing franchise reboot in star Trek, an arthouse disguised as a summer tent pole with Public Enemies and the bonafied raved The Hurt Locker, Sundance gave us An Education and Precious, Cannes confirmed those two along with Bright Star, Fish Tank, A Prophet and to a lesser wxtent Antichrist, Broken Embraces & Inglorious Basterds. So to say it is too early is not a really an apt statement any more. A month or two ago yes that was true but as of now it's not. Just look at the last few years summer month's which brought us Wall-e, Ratatouille, Borat, Little Miss Sunshine, Tropic Thunder, The Bourne Ultimatum, Crash, The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Vicky Cristina Barcelona, Sicko, and The Devil Wears Prada. All of which were highly buzzed about Oscar contenders that paid off in the end. So as of now, anybody could justafiably put together a predictions list that looks better than the one on this site, which I of course realize is just one person's opinions which I respect, but some of the shots that were called are just all over the place and ridiculous. The same could be said for last year, but when we had the Igloo the predictions were much more acurate and spot on.

I really enjoyed the Oscar Igloo. To say that this site is more active and has more interesting topics being posted is sort of ridiculous imo. I found myself coming to this site 10 times a day when it was the Oscar Igloo and in the first months of of it's new transformation. Now, I find myself coming here about once every other week. It's dead. I was a proud member of the Bait an Oscar community. It was really fun until the last couple of months and then the old & new editors of this site basically abandoned it without any explanation. What is that about??? This is not an act of progressing. As for the other forums, nothing is happening. There used to be so many discussions and posts being made every day. Today, people are barely commenting on these posts. I also believe there was no need to have an everyday coverage about American Idol. This is a site dedicated to films and the Oscars. In any case, this site went downhill a long time ago. The only thing that surprises me now is that people are starting to address this issue now. Peace out.

I also think the site has unfortunately faded and almost died and I have been on here since 05-06 also. I used to be a real regular and now just kind of faded into looking at the posts every other week or so to see if anything new is happening and it usually isn't. A shame because I loved the OscarIgloo and it really helped widen my range on movies and awards. As a year round site tho, Awardscircuit is a little dissapointing just because of the lack of people here.

The American Idol stuff is unneeded, but like others have said i also miss some of the discussions that took place on theoscarigloo. I particularly remember a great one that was trying to figure out if Paul Haggis was a hack or a genius. I was first interested in theoscarigloo because it was completely dedicated to "Oscar"

Thats exactly how I feel guys, the reason I stumbled upon this site in the first place was because of my love for the Oscar race. Back in 05-06 when I made my first trip to the Toronto film festival I could literally feel tension in the air as oscar buzz made it's way from film to film. Then I started to read incontention, Awards daily, the film experience and the oscar igloo and all was great. I just dont know why the transition from the Igloo to Awards Circuit was just so horrible, Awards Daily went nearly unscathed after the Oscar Watch switch. I loved the forum discussions, I particularly remember the Paul Haggis discussion, DeNiro vs. Pacino and even more recently how much fun it had been to watch people gang up on Superman.
I was devoted to Bait an Oscar having written over 100 baits with my late best freind Wes Freeman, and the last baits we wrote before his death have never even been posted because of the tragic demise of the contest. Though now with it's rebirth under Doug Reese and Adrian James at the new site that could change. So many regulars from the beginning have left this site behind and it's not a mystery why, Awards Circuit is just, i'm sorry but it's my oppinion, trash. No one comes to this site wanting to read constant updates on the Grammy's or American Idol or The Emmy's! Thats what we have Tom O'Neil and The Gold Derby. Because he is actually knowledgeable and knows how to report on those races. We came for The Oscars, loving the articles and analysis under Johnny Alba's regime during the golden age of the Igloo, and are leaving with a bitter disapointed taste due to the direction of this site.

wow, i pretty much agree with that. bring back the igloo

i think you guys have made some valid points. this was once a site dedicated to oscar predictions. I also think it has been a great disservice to avid readers / visitors who participated in the bait an oscar contest to just toss it aside. What was once prominently placed on the site was delegated to a blink and you miss link on the bottom of the page. when i first joined the contest back in june 07 that contest was booming, over 50 submissions. But that contest brought people to the site everyday. that was traffic for you and your advertisers. that was multiple postings in the forums and views for the blog. the contest died a slow death. when the site became awards circuit the contest descended and never recovered. i think if you could fix anything, that would be a major part of it. and advertise the contest. its fun and its get people coming back.

best of luck Clayton, i appreciate you taking the time to read the suggestions.

I agree with you Chris, the bait an Oscar contest should be a huge part of what needs to change. At least, in case you didnt know, Adrain James and Dougla Reese started up a new site to continue the contest, you should check it out. But in the end this site needs to revert back to being about the Oscars and the Oscars alone.

See I personally do not care at all about Bait an Oscar and that seems to be everyone's main complaint...so...

No my friend, while Bait an Oscar is a serious issue to those who participated in it, there are various of complaints that have been said by many people here, including myself and many people that have complained in the past, people who no longer come to this site. No offense Andrew, but everytime I look threw the AA forum, the only person I see commenting more than anybody else here is you. I sensed that you didn't care about the Bait an Oscar forum a long time ago, and I get it, why should you care?. But it's a real downer for people like me (and I'm sure the same goes for some others) if something I looked forward to everyday of every month for the past two or three years to just go straight to waste and I'm talking about the site as well.

I also want to correct myself when I said that people are just starting to address this issue now. I was wrong. I just recently remember back when more than a couple of the members of this community created a list and if a great amount of people put their name down, that that will lead a hope to bring back the Oscar Igloo. I never put my name down on that list because I figured it was useless. Even if a great amount of people put their name down, it would not have helped the transformation back to the Oscar Igloo. That's impossible at this point. I'm sure the editors feel they are doing the best they can and that's fine, but we have the right to our opinions and I sense the majority of the people here are not fond of the way things have gone. Peace out.

Well, I believe that most of us here have pretty much agreed upon the fact that Awards Circuit is not living up to the promise it made after the unfortunate switch from The Oscar Igloo. I am sure the new editors are doing their best to bring us a great site, but in my eyes and in the eyes of many others, whether or not they have abandoned the site as many have done, these people have failed us. But that doesnt mean that our issues wont be addressed, it is not impossible to revert back to the glory days of the igloo. Just switch back, if that is an option, if not just reformat this site to being about The Oscars only. They would also need to bring back Bait an Oscar and widely promote it to reel back in any regulars who left long ago. I'm just waiting for an editor other than Clayton to respond to this issue because he seems to be the only one with the cajones to do so, please correct me if I'm wrong.
Either way The vast majority wants The Oscar Igloo back, not this site and I think the evidence overwhelmingly supports this claim. So please, instead of repeating the same: "Just e-mail us and we will assess your problems" spiel. Change the site. Most of us want it. We are all tired of daily American Idol recaps, and DVD releases and Big Openings, just give us Oscar. Review Oscar movies, write about buzz, keep on top of the buzz so your predictions wont be ridiculously bad, and update constantly.
I think it's safe to say that if you guys dont address this problem and put into action a path resulting in a change back to an Igloo-like site,
by the end of the year, you will lose many of the barely regulars you have left. And this site will be a paper thin ugly shell of it's former self.

Maybe it's a bit too late for me to jump into this discussion, but...

I have to agree with so many points. I remember back in 2006 and 2007, The Oscar Igloo was a well-loved site - on IMDb (which of course not everyone cares about, but understand that their Oscar Buzz board is made up of 90% of the people that read Oscar prediction sites...) it was heavily praised up as one of the best Oscar prediction sites. Now, well, Awards Circuit is constantly made fun of - mainly because, well, it got boring. I have lost interest in even coming to the site hardly anymore because it no longer feels like the site before - which was great. Now, its covering way too much ground that it just gets tiresome. It covers so much ground that it feels cluttered and it just makes one not care anymore!

Nobody has to care about the Bait an Oscar site, but it does hurt those that did care about it. I don't blame it as much on the fact that its a tiny link on the site as much as its apart of a site that no longer feels dedicated to what the contest is. The Oscars and film awards precursors!

I understand how hard everybody is working on the site to cover more than just Oscars, but really... the film aspect of the site is what most come to look at.

Featuring things about "American Idol", I'm sorry, is the most unappealing thing - and when it takes frontpage of the site compared to other news that is Oscar or awards related, it can get baffling. Who comes to Awards Circuit? Reality TV fans? This is supposed to be an awards site, correct? Why not start up with "Big Brother", "Survivor", and "The Spelling Bee"? It makes no sense...

Now, not to bring up IMDb's Oscar Buzz again, but many there don't even bother with the site anymore - and when taken the time to look at how many people post on the AA message boards here, you can see that there is only a select group compared to the way it used to - which was basically replies and new posts every few minutes! Maybe The Oscar Igloo hit a chords in the hearts of Oscar lovers and the sudden transition just knocked the wind out of them? I don't know... I just can say that Awards Circuit just isn't clicking with the Oscar-public now like it did when The Oscar Igloo was going on...

A bunch of things to clear up and address:

First of all, I am the only editor of the site. The rest of the team are staff writers for the site. I am the only one who updates the site and approves or disapproves of certain idea. There is no way we will revert back to the Oscar Igloo for several reasons. The name Oscar is trademarked and we cannot use it is the most obvious reason.

In regards to the Bait an Oscar contest: when I took on the site Johnny suggested I dismantle the contest. I disagreed. I wanted to keep it with the Igloo readers as a form of familiarity but Johnny agreed to stay with it as long as he was able. The "popularity" of the contest is not as big as some may think neither is the participation. I never agreed to take it on but I gave it the publicity I saw fit. I think many of the complaints on this thread have to do with the disintegration of the contest. I posted for a writer position to take on the contest and there was no response. If you guys want to participate so highly and make blogs, you should have responded.

On the subject of the additional content of the site, I never intended for this to be just an Oscar site. The primary focus is the Oscars whether any of you want to see it or not. Many of you find it necessary to insult me or the site because we are not making it primarily what you want. The parts of the site you don't like (American Idol, Music, etc.) don't visit, its that simple.

DVD Picks, Big Openings are Oscar related. If you guys read the articles maybe you would see what Joey and Myles bring to it and how they always relate it back to the Oscars. During the off season, we try to focus on something else. We cover what is in our control and what we are able. The reviews are updated quite frequently, the predictions are updated more than most sites out on the web, I even take stabs at Golden Globes and SAG early on when no one else is talking about it.

As many of you think that we've run dry with readers, you're wrong. Less than 10% of readers that visit the site actually post on Message Boards, (which is disappointing) We have reached our near 2,000,000 click on our first year alone. Johnny did a very admirable job with the Igloo, which I can never thank him enough for, but The Awards Circuit updates more than triple the times Johnny would. Johnny has praised my direction with the site as him and I remain good friends.

I'm sorry many of you don't agree with the direction the Awards Circuit has taken but I feel we do a good enough job to get by. There's always room for improvement but I would never consider it below par. We are 4th on Google and Yahoo and 11th on MSN. That's in 1 year. If you guys want to be constructive, than be constructive. Just because you don't like TV/Music or DVD pages, doesn't mean others don't. They get enough clicks.

Do me a favor, go on the Main Page and count how many things are Oscar related and how many things aren't and you will find a considerable difference gearing more towards Oscars and buzz related things.

Thank you

Clayton

Well gee thanks for that Clayton, you just lost a semi-reg. this site sucks and screw being constructive, when you deny the suggstions of all these people who come on you have proven that you dont care about what we think you pompous jerkoff
i'm done here

I wouldn't go as far as saying that, but I am very disapointed with that response, you are basically saying: Sorry but thats your problem, in response to the issues we have raised with the site. You also didnt answer any of our questions and did not at all respond to our issues, instead you just defended yourself and the site.

so what the hell was he proposing?

It's certainly true that the message board gets a lot less use these days. In the old days I would post a question, go to the bathroom, come back and have three responses. Now, there are sometimes several days without anything. The last post on the "non-Oscar talk" side (which has always gotten less traffic, but not much less) was June 25th. Kinda sad.

the Rat- i have to agree. i used to (when i posted regularly) get responses almost immediately. now, it seems like many threads go un-responded to, which may be partly why i have not been active on this site much recently. it's just become boring and very slow. that is too bad because i was, at one point, posting rather frequently. it seems it all went downhill around the time of superman HAHAHA.

i do understand what Clayton said about covering other events, but clearly, there is a trickle effect that is causing there to be, clearly, less posting (and i can speak certainly on my behalf, for i have basically stopped posting the past few months).

well, that is just my opinion, but no one can deny the lack of posting over the past few months. i know it is not prime season, but whatever is being done during the off season is clearly not working.

That is definitely for sure, whatever they are doing is definitely not working at all. But hey, it's obvious they have no intention of changing, so why bother, right?

basically. so he says it's under his control, fine. he might as well get rid of the bait an oscar thread completely. it looks ridiculous there now and pointless. while you're at it, get rid of the non-oscar talk & reviews thread too. once in a blue moon, someone will post on the non oscar thread (and the post will go unnoticed), and the reviews section has been unpopular since day one. Just have the AA forum for ppl like Andrew. Maybe you could create a American Idol thread to replace the BAO one. and another thread could be dedicated to all that is Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt. hell throw in hannah montana, the kardashians, the twilight cast, the jonas brothers, and all about what jon & kate will do with those kids or how about a thread dedicated to making the predictions on this site even worse, haha YEA!. Let's see, how about Dance Flick for Best Picture. FUN!. Let's all clap our hands at the demise of Awards Circuit, previously known as The Oscar Igloo. And let's all welcome the doucebag clayton davis as new editor and cheif. I wish you Clayton the worst of luck. goodbye.

I wouldn't go that far but I pretty much agree with that

**** Clayton. **** Awards Circuit. **** this. This site can burn in ****ing hell for all I care!

I know this can only end badly for me, but can I ask why it's necessary to be nasty to people? If something is important enough to you that you're going to go on record with your opinion, why go about it in such a negative way? Just asking, since I know that when someone calls you names, you tend to not take them as seriously as someone who legitimately asks you a question or criticizes you.

Because people can use the internet as a weapon because they can say things they can't in real life because they're too p*ssy too but when their safely in home behind a screen and nothing can hurt them, they can be jerks and not have to worry about it.

Fair point

I think people are taking this too personally and being too sensitive. I never said I don't listen to your suggestions, actually I take a big part ideas for the site from suggestions. That's how we ended up with TV/Music coverage, ACCA awards (which voting is ending this weekend btw), etc.

It's very rare to find a site, or magazine, newspaper, anything that you find 100% of the content enlightening and enjoyable. There's some stuff that doesn't peek your interest so you move on. We are "Awards Circuit" which gives us the opportunity to cover anything we find counts as an award, trophy, anything. If we start covering The Olympics or the World Cup, are people going to get mad? probably. And we will cover those things because we have an opportunity to do so and it lets us reach out to more people.

The Oscars is still the primary focus and will continue to be but we continue to find ways to reach to more people. Point blank.

Clayton Davis
Editor, The Awards Circuit

The original Oscar Igloo was 100 percent enjoyable for all of 2005 and 2006 and most of 2007, as is Incontention alot of the time, as was Oscar watch .com

guys im sorry if i caused hate, wasnt my purpose, its just i prefer oscarigloo, not this.....

Don't be sorry, you brought to the forefront an important topic that led to a positive revelation from many who had remained silent of their dislike for the Awards Circuit, having preference towards The Oscar Hut. For that, I thank you

i agree. we have tried to bring up this issue in the past in a respectful manner and it always got ignored. it's funny how it takes for people to get nasty so that our voices could be heard. now we have joey being more active on the forums now, but joey being more active is just step one. they want to cover every awards show out there, fine, but american idol is not an awards show. so i hope that nonsense stops. and i'm still not happy of what has become of the bait an oscar forum.

Hi everyone,

I'll be the first to admit that I don't interact with the readers as much as I could be. I do my Big Openings, post something on the blog now and then, edit the podcasts, etc. I'm not blind to the fact that there's been some disgruntlement over all the changes, I've just chosen not to get involved in the debate. But I do care about the readers and how they feel about the site, and it dismays me to see so much hate and nastiness around here. And I for one am willing to respond to you guys, as I'm sure you'll find we all are. I joined at the tail end of the Oscar Igloo's lifespan, but I saw enough of the contrast between the two sites to understand many of the complaints being lodged at us.

In regards to Bait an Oscar, it's as Clayton said: it wasn't as big a draw as they are being made out to be. Plenty of people have gotten enjoyment out of it over the years, and we're willing to let someone help keep it alive for those who are still interested in it. But considering how little attention it appears to get outside of these boards, we hope you'll understand if it's not exactly high on our priority lists.

As for the complaints about the TV/Music sections, American Idols, Big Openings, etc: they are there for those who want to see them. Believe it or not, we put them there because there was a demand for them, not for our own enjoyment. I can't possibly defend the Big Openings without coming off as biased, so I'll just suggest that you view them as a sort of track record of the year's releases, what the critics said at the time, and what we think their Oscar prospects might be at the time of release. In this light, you'll see how it's completely Oscar relevant.

I don't disagree that we've lost our focus somewhere along the way, but we do this for you guys, not just ourselves, and we are willing to listen to your constructive suggestions if you have any. But don't be surprised if we are less than responsive to such comments as:
"this site went downhill a long time ago",
"Awards Circuit is just...trash",
"these people have failed us",
" this site sucks and screw being constructive",
"you pompous jerkoff",
"let's all welcome the doucebag clayton davis as new editor and cheif",
"**** Clayton. **** Awards Circuit. **** this. This site can burn in ****ing hell for all I care!"

We understand that you're upset about the changes made and disappointed in our performance, but comments like these are not helpful in any way. If you want things to change, if you care enough to come here and complain about it, then you need to be more constructive. Give us legitimate suggestions about what to get better. Don't keep saying "I wish The Oscar Igloo would come back", because it's not going to. Johnny, the original founder, left us a while ago, and as far as I know is no longer even involved with anything related to the site. It's just us. We're a new site now, and we've got a wider focus, and yes I'll admit that we've had a rough start, but then, The Oscar Igloo didn't become the powerhouse that it became overnight either. Give us time, and help us build this into the site you want it to be.

Sorry this has been a fairly lengthy post, but I wanted to try and cover all our bases. I know there are some of you who legitimately want to help, and have been putting forth suggestions that have indeed been useful and will be taken into consideration. What we need is more of that, less of the whining and name-calling. Help us, and we'll help you.

Thanks for reading.

Cheers,
-Myles

My good friend Myles has done a better job explaining all of this than I can, but I just wanted to reiterate some of the things that he said.

First of all, thanks Myles!

Essentially, most of the changes were done due to demand for them. Trust me, my focus is much more on movies than anything else, but if you don't cater to the needs of your audience, you cease to have an audience, and that renders moot any of the concerns that we all have.

Also, complaints about predictions or opinions are fairly useless, since they're just that, predictions. None of us are Nostradamus (to my knowledge, but if anyone is, please contact me about lottery numbers and a future wife)or members of the Academy, so it's all guessing games more or less. We make educated guesses, but guesses nonetheless. I for one don't always agree with Clayton's picks, but I can't deny that in the end he's usually pretty accurate (he hit on 18 out of 24 categories in the end at last year's Oscars, and that was tops in terms of us on the site...I came in second with 17 but that was only because I somehow got my prediction of Departures winning right). It's perfectly alright to question someone's thoughts or debate them, but to spew vitriol because he likes the chances of someone you don't feel as strongly about isn't really prudent.

On that issue, why is it necessary to be mean? What is gained? I'm still at a loss there, but maybe I'm naive, but Myles hit it on the head...if you send us a comment asking us a question or a suggestion in a somewhat even keeled manner, we're much more likely to respond or even implement what you desire as opposed to if you tell us to stick it where the sun don't shine.

Finally, we all agree that the site is not perfect, and that we need to update more (I know keeping the blog updated daily doesn't count), but just keep this in mind...just because we don't update the Main Page every single day doesn't mean that we're sitting on our hands doing nothing. There is almost always some combination of movies to see, screenings to attend, podcasts to record and edit, reviews to write, blog entries to post, articles to research and type up, DVD viewings to be done, and so on...often these things all occur at the same time, and that's not even counting when one of us has work or school to factor in (I've graduated, but last year I had a day when I wrote 3 reviews, posted a half dozen times on the blog, did an article, and wrote two film papers for a class in one night, so it can get hectic). Trust me, we're working as hard, or harder, then you think.

Thanks again to Myles for his excellent post and thanks to everyone for being a part of the site.

Respectfully,
Joey

Just who was begging for American Idol updates, just who? One person? Two?

You guys should have had a poll to see if the majority wanted something like that being covered on a site like this.

And people have brought up the issue in a respectful manner way before this happened. Johnny left us around May or June, at least that's the last time he posted on the Bait and Oscar forum. That wasn't that long ago. People constantly emailed him so that we can get a insight on what was happening with that. no response. Hey, if the nasty comments got you guys talking, than I'm not sorry, and I'm guessing the others aren't either. Whatever.

I asked for American Idol updates.

Making nasty comments doesn't get us talking. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we tend to ignore nasty comments and listen to the more level headed ones. This is not to say that your comments all need to be charm school quality or that we all demand an apology with smiley-faced hearts dotting the i's, but there should be some level of civility involved in expressing concerns about the site.

On a personal note, I did not start commenting and getting involved and talking on the board because of the comments, it was in spite of that, and also the fact that I had been asked a number of months ago to start getting involved and I honestly just never got around to it. I was never familiar enough with how it worked to adequately contribute (I tended to do my correspondence with readers through comments left on the blog, email, and facebook. It was a combination of graduating college, which left me with extra time, a desire for more interaction on the site, and finally doing what I had intended to do a while ago, which combined to bring me to the board. I can only speak for myself, but I hardly think any of us were bullied into talking here.

Once again, please try and keep the nasty comments to a minimum, and if you don't, just bear in mind we tend to ignore them or at the very least not address them in the same manner as the ones that don't question our sanity, sexual orientation, mental stability, sexual prowess, or fitness to do what we do.

Thanks again

Joey

"I asked for American Idol updates"

Then you're disgusting. period.



It's all good Joey. But I stand by what I said. I'm sure that if people weren't getting hostile, things would have been exactly the same.

Mind you Anonymous 2, you're a bigger p*ssy than I am for not revelaing your name. afraid the nasty comments would come your way.

No, the nasty comments still came my way. You just can't call me by name. And seriously you can't dump on someone about staying anonymous when you aren't even giving your own name.

i can do whatever i want anonymous 2. :O