Statement from Scott L. Felton

Dear UFO Enthusiasts,

I am sending out this account following the outrageous Channel 5
TV documentary on the Berwyn Mountain Incident on Wednesday July
2nd 2008, a programme created by Firefly Productions and part of
a series on the UKs closest UFO encounters.

Please pass this on to as many of your fellow UFO enthusiasts as
possible. This will go some way to showing just how much the
programme was slanted in favour of the debunkers. It should also
demonstrate a little the appalling methods used by these people
to divert attention away from UFOs and in particular, away from
this Berwyn Mountain incident and no doubt others in the series.

I will be ensuring that this information is given to as much of
the North Wales population as possible through all channels and
especially to the residents of Llandrillo who have once again
been fed drivel and treated like idiots. I will be ensuring this
too to keep the local populous interested in reporting their
sightings to anyone involved with the Wales Fellowship Of
Independent Ufologists, spearheaded by veteran Ufologist Mrs
Margaret Fry.

Margaret has asked me to advise North Wales residents not to
give their sightings reports to anyone not residing in the
region and who cannot fully investigate such. She has concluded
that often even well meaning people can inadvertently alienate
locals and especially Welsh speaking locals. Following the
programme, there is an atmosphere of resentment already
appearing towards ‘outsiders’ who rubbish and belittle the
locals.

Anyone who watched it must have been shocked at the degree of
imbalance and not with standing the fact that a decision had
been taken by the programme’s commissioning editor to edit out
anything and everything which while not proving the existence of
a UFO on the Berwyn Mountain range on January 23rd 1974, would
certainly have balanced the content or most probably, would have
tipped the balance in great favour of something ‘exotic’ having
occurred that night.

I am personally peeved because I was asked and filmed to
demonstrate how all of the debunking literature so far produced
was fabricated, the facts twisted and who had lied.

It is an open secret that I have been invited to write a
comprehensive chapter in a forthcoming book of a well known
British UFO researcher on the Berwyn event. The content is based
on documents which I’ve received under the Freedom of
Information Act 2000, some of which, no other investigator has
managed to obtain and how I have discovered where exactly on
Cader Berwyn the UFO seen actually rested.

What is significant, is that I have irrefutable proof that the
debunking version of events portrayed by Andy Roberts in his
‘Welsh Roswell’ is based on lies, half truths and supposition. I
showed some of this to the filming team and whilst filming up on
the Berwyn Mountains range, I was able to show how the debunkers
have tried to claim that Police, poachers, farmers etc were on
Cader Berwyn and that Pat Evans and her two daughters, Diane and
Tina, were mistaken, seeing Police torches surrounding a
poacher’s lamp when these apparent ’criminals’ were stopped and
spoken to by the Police.

The TV programme itself was a litany of blatant lies.

The former Assistant Chief Constable Elfed Roberts though
relating his experiences was very conservative with the truth
and lied at least once. He lied by saying at one point, that an
officer(s) left the commandeered vehicle belonging to Huw
Lloyd’s parents and flashed torches about. This was a pathetic
attempt to try and prop up Andy Roberts’ assertion that Mrs
Evans saw Police torches. Huw Lloyd the teenage farmer at the
time, was filmed and testified that at no time did any Police
officer leave the vehicle to look around nor, did any use of
torches take place. That was edited out and the Police officer
given free reign to state otherwise. It was suggested that only
two police officers were present at that point; there was at
least four, possibly five. Huw could not recall exactly, but
certainly more than three and none was local or known to him.

Andy Roberts stuck to his version of events, despite the fact
that his ‘poachers’ who were not poachers at all, stated that
they had packed in lamping by 9.15 pm. The Police were
inspecting their vehicle partly blocking the track up the
mountain at 9.20 pm. Please note, that Pat Evans and daughters
did not arrive anywhere on the range until 10 pm that night. 45
minutes after the poacher’s departed. So whatever she saw, it
was not a poacher’s lamp. Further to that, she has constantly
been portrayed as being somewhere near to the poaching and
Police search activities.

The truth is, that Pat Evans was deliberately subverted by North
Wales Police and that is why she ended up on the B 4391, and
four miles from the Police search above Llandrillo, and thus
four miles from any headlamp, torch or anything even if there
when she arrived at her vantage point..

The Police were searching for a suspected plane crash on Cader
Bronwen Mountain above Llandrillo, based on reports of an
explosion sound accompanying the earth tremor rumblings and then
seeing lights above the village over the ridge known as Cefn Pen
Llety. Debunkers have continually tried to suggest that events
occurred on Cader Berwyn Mountain where Mrs Evans and her
daughters observed the UFO.

I will reiterate, that at no time whatsoever was any Police
officer or civilian at large on Cader Berwyn and that there was
absolutely no connection between the UFO and Llandrillo village.
Also, no one in Llandrillo could possibly see anything on Cader
Berwyn or even Cader Bronwen. Both mountains and peaks are
obscured by lower hill slopes and ridges.

I would advise readers that the principle reason that Pat Evans
now spends most of her time in Tenerife, was to escape the
attentions not of debunkers, but of UFO buffs who totally
disregarded her testimony and privacy, often knocking
unannounced on her front door late at night and even arguing
with her that she was lying, simply because her true experience
did not fit the mindset of the UFO enthusiast.

Pat Evans was subverted by North Wales Police because she did
not get through to them offering her medical assistance until
just before 9.30pm. At 9.10 pm, the Police had already opened a
major incident log and Police officers were in Huw Lloyd’s yard.
Yet, when Pat Evans spoke to the Police, she was not directed
from Llandderfel (where she lived) to Llandrillo. She was given
no idea of where to go to assist and by her own volition, took
the B4391 to gain a vantage point. This action was premeditated
and supports other actions to deter civilian interest in events
that night.

Thus, she stumbled upon the UFO purely by chance.

The irony here, is that Huw Lloyd has testified that Police
Officers from Bala and from Barmouth too (over an hour’s drive
in those days??), were in his yard at 9.10 pm, and had to pass
Llandderfel where Pat Evans lived to reach Llandrillo and the
route onto Cader Bronwen. One of those Policemen was Elfed
Roberts. In that documentary, he must have known that Pat Evans
was treated in this way.

The Police did not tell Mrs Evans to go to Llandrillo because
her assistance was unwanted.

Elfed Roberts along with the other Policemen present saw nothing
on Cader Bronwen, though all including Huw Lloyd saw for a few
seconds, a bright white light south towards Cader Berwyn which
lasted a few seconds and then subsided. Huw Lloyd testified to
that, but that fact was omitted from the programme, and Elfed
Roberts chose not to mention it!

Bearing in mind that the earth tremor which occurred that
evening and which led locals and Police to believe a plane had
crashed above Llandrillo, was at approx’ 8.40 pm, twelve hours
would pass before it was light enough to continue any search the
next day. In 12 hours, the Civil Aviation and Military
Authorities would know if an air craft was missing, yet the
search continued aided by, a three man search and rescue team
from RAF Valley in Anglesey.

The Police requested search assistance and the RAF sent a three
man team which arrived late on the evening of the tremor and
sighting.

In the programme, Andy Roberts played down that military
presence and suggested that military ‘vehicles’ seen in
Llandrillo by locals created the belief of a military presence
and covert activities.

There was a three man team, in ONE vehicle.

Incidentally, all the details of every search and rescue
operation conducted by the RAF Valley team for 1974 are missing.
As far as the MoD is concerned, no RAF personnel was involved in
an operation requested by the Police at any time in 1974.

I also presented to the film crew evidence that steps were taken
to deny the use of civilian mountain rescue enthusiasts who knew
the Berwyn Range intimately. Such had been used before but not
on this occasion. Mr Roberts in his Welsh Roswell has insisted
that the locals have it wrong and that they confused matters
with large military presences at military air crashes in 1972
and 1982. Such a presence giving credence to the UFO fraternity
claim that soldiers sealed off the mountain range in order to
extract a crashed alien vehicle.

I could concur a little with the 1982 event, but I believe the
1972 event was invented to enhance the case against the locals.
I believe this because I have in my possession a full listing of
all military air crashes in North Wales in 1972 and I can state
that no air craft crashed in that year anywhere near the Berwyn
range. Three were on Anglesey and one near Llanbedr air field on
the west coast. In debunking literature, reference is made to
this ‘72 crash and this has often been repeated, but not one
sceptic promoting this has so far published details of the
craft, its occupants, airfield of origin etc. Nothing.

I also have details of all military and civilian air crashes for
near surrounding years and again, nothing crashed anywhere near
the Berwyn Range. In 1968 there was a crash near the summit of
Cader Bronwen with several fatalities. Mr Roberts also attempts
to elaborate the debunking case by suggesting that the air crash
in 1982 involved a plane carrying top secret gear.

That is absolute rubbish. I have a full account of the event
from the military and the pilot was a simple lone student flyer
on a routine sortie in a training plane. I have the crash map
reference number and details of the three farmers who received
compensation from the MoD for damage to land during the text
book recovery operation.

Indeed, Huw Lloyd’s father escorted the American pilot’s parents
to the crash site at a later date.

As regards the earth tremor that night. It was quite violent.
However, the programme tried to give credence to Jenny Randles
and her earth light theory by overtly moving the epicentre of
the quake 9 miles, to make it appear under Cader Bronwen. That
is a blatant lie to the viewing audience.

Earth lights if they exist, would occur on the stress points of
the fault lines. The epicentre of the quake was 5 - 7000 metres
below Bala itself. Firefly editorship moved this to directly
below Cader Bronwen to coincide with Jenny’s theory. Even the
British Geological Survey which is involved in the official
cover up of this event, knows the epicentre point and does not
deny that.

Yes, all the big guns were dragged into this documentary to put
down interest in the event. Ron Madison engaged the RAF to
overfly the range to search for a meteorite impact crater - try
and get the photos.

The programme claimed the team was there for four days, yet the
next day, the BGS arrived having confirmed that an earth tremor
had occurred. Ron Madison and associates carried on looking for
a meteor impact crater despite confirmation that the explosion
heard was linked to an earth tremor. That though didn’t stop
there. The three man RAF team which officially ceased its search
just after 2 pm, was then seen on Cader Berwyn later that day.

Of course the programme played down the search and rescue
presence as officially, it did not take place.

As regards the guest appearance of Dr Roger Musson, well, what
can I say? I have, just two days before the airing of the
programme, received documents from the British Geological Survey
following a formal complaint and internal investigation
conducted by the Director of that organisation. Roger Musson is
a personal friend of Andy Roberts, and guards the records
regarding the Bala earth quake with a zeal unheard of. Much of
Andy’s debunking literature is based on documents purportedly
held by the BGS. Roger Musson has obstructed me for two years in
my getting access to those BGS documents. And why?

Why indeed? I can assure readers of this, that those BGS
documents do not show Police, poachers lights etc in the same
small area of mountain side where Pat Evans saw them as claimed
by Andy Roberts. Any references are on Cader Bronwen, miles from
Pat Evans’ position on the B4391 road.

Mrs Evans must have had exceptional eyesight to see a non
existent home made hunting lamp four miles away along with,
Police torches - simple two cell affairs in those days. With
Roger Musson guarding the documentary evidence that Andy Roberts
has enhanced, there has been little chance thus far of getting
to the truth.

Andy Roberts cannot now stand by the debacle of a debunking
exercise he has written and published as to do so would show an
unprecedented arrogance and contempt for genuine witnesses
involved in a genuine event. To continue to stand by that false
literature is to call the hunters liars, Huw Lloyd a liar and
the Evans family liars amongst others.

The North Wales edition of the Daily Post ran a story about
gamekeeper Geraint Edwards on July 2nd the same day as the
programme aired. It meant nothing to me at the time, but seeing
the programme made me realise that the quotes in the newspaper
article by Geraint and Elfed Roberts the ex cop were identical
to the wording used in the programme. So, someone had given
access to the Daily Post to the programme content in advance of
the airing a leak, by accident or design.

Yet I was specifically asked by the filming team representatives
not to discuss the filming until the show aired.

Of course, the input from the former gamekeeper and also the
camcorder shots taken in 2000, had no bearing whatsoever on the
subject of a 23rd of January 1974 UFO incident. They were a poor
attempt to show some input by witnesses as if coming from pro
UFO people. No pro UFO people were given air time on that
programme.

My input simply showed that the opposition to the UFO presence
could not be allowed to be shown as incorrect or blatantly
false. I demonstrated this in great clinical detail and then an
editorial decision was taken to erase that input.

This is only the tip of the iceberg. Naturally Firefly got only
snippets of information from me but it was enough. I can’t prove
an alien craft was on the slopes of Cader Berwyn in 1974, but I
can prove that most of the material used for years to debunk it
is false. The sceptics have simply relied on apathy to get away
with this and obstruction by friends and friends of friends.

This is my personal opinion of the programme which has now
aired. I have been informed that another UFO enthusiast was
approached about the South Wales Welsh Triangle and after some
information was supplied, Firefly simply did not contact the guy
again. I knew this, and on his behalf, sent several emails and
text messages to Firefly asking them nothing more than to get in
touch and inform the guy where he stood. Nothing. No
acknowledgement to me or contact between them and the said
Ufologist.

Person linked to the forthcoming Warminster coverage are now
gravely concerned about how their input will be portrayed. If
however, the remaining documentaries are balanced, it will make
viewers suspicious that concerted efforts have been made to
quell interest in the Berwyn Mountain UFO event.

Thank you.

Scott L. Felton
www.conwyufogroup.piczo.com
conwyufogroup.nul

Public are in denial over UFOs, says investigator

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2008/07/07/public-are-in-denial-over-ufos-says-investigator-55578-21272583/

Jul 7 2008 by Steve Bagnall, Daily Post

MARGARET Fry has never doubted that beings from outer space visit the Earth, nor the existence of UFOs, ever since she says she saw one with her own eyes 53 years ago this month.

She has been investigating reported sightings and incidents, and trying to persuade the sceptics in our midst for the past 30 years that they are very real.

The veteran investigator and co-founder of the Welsh Fellowship of Independent Ufologists, and a grandmother of nine from Abergele, accepts it’s a difficult task. But she is at a loss to understand how so many appear to be in denial about the issue.

“People are not taking it at all seriously, as far as I can make out. Not until they see something, and then they have to consider the possibilities.

“Some people read about it as an interesting phenomenon and then forget about it. I don’t now how, really, because we’re being visited by beings from various planetary systems in outer space. How people can’t take an interest in that, I just don’t know.”

Wales has long been a hot-bed of reported UFO activity, way before the recent reported buzzing of a police helicopter above Cardiff by an unidentified craft made headlines worldwide.

But Margaret Fry isn’t impressed by claims that alien life forms are taking a particular interest in Wales. She insists that Welsh airspace only seems more active because the country has more dedicated ufologists compared to most other places.

“It’s because you’ve got one damned good UFO investigator talking to you,” she tells me. “We’re a group of people who’ve gone out of our way to get UFO reports, and maybe they’re not as strong in other places.”

The most famous UFO incident in Wales was the one dubbed the “Welsh Roswell” reported to have taken place on the Berwyn mountain near Bala in 1974. Locals reported seeing strange lights on the mountain, amid reports of a huge bang, with the police and military immediately sealing off the area.

Mrs Fry has spent hours investigating the incident down the years, and says that reports of an object crashing into the mountain are at variance with the evidence she’s garnered.

“I’ve been investigating it since 1979, talking to the farming community. As far as I know, we have no evidence whatsoever of anything ever crashing there that night. But dozens of witnesses have told us they saw a craft sitting on the ridge known as Cefn Coch.

“The other thing we have evidence of is that it hovered in the sky for a long time and came down gradually. Therefore it wasn’t a meteor, and came down deliberately rather than crashing. It stayed on the ground for an hour and a quarter before taking off again, and it was seen by the villagers in Llandyrnog. They definitely saw something that wasn’t a conventional craft.

“There was a meteorite shower that night, but it came from the north east side of the mountain, and would therefore have had to do a U-turn to crash on the west side as some reports say, which is quite impossible. We found this out, but nobody’s ever written about it.”

Her first encounter with a UFO was a well-reported incident in her native Bexleyheath in London, a seminal moment in her life that set her on a life-long pursuit of the truth.

“It wasn’t just one UFO that landed at noon on July 17 1955, but two, They landed three or four streets apart. One was in Bexleyheath, King Harold’s Way. All the people came out of their houses. There most have been at least 170 people standing around this thing.”

While governments hold huge files on UFOs and reported alien visits, Margaret has her own theories as to why they prefer to keep their public in the dark.

“It would affect people’s thinking, and religious doctrines and cause panic. I don’t think we have anything to worry about at the moment. So far, none of these craft have been aggressive, but how are we to know?”

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